Re: Windows Server thrashes Novell's Linux

2005-11-17 Thread Carsten Otte
John Summerfied wrote: Comments? First they ignore you, then they laugh about you, then they fight you, and then you win. (Nelson Mandela) -- Carsten Otte IBM Linux technology center ARCH=s390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe /

Re: Windows Server thrashes Novell's Linux

2005-11-17 Thread Kielek, Samuel
I'm pretty sure that was Gandhi who came up with that statement... Although, I would not be surprised if Mandela quoted Gandhi. -Sam -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carsten Otte Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:37 AM To:

Re: Windows Server thrashes Novell's Linux

2005-11-17 Thread Carsten Otte
Kielek, Samuel wrote: I'm pretty sure that was Gandhi who came up with that statement... Although, I would not be surprised if Mandela quoted Gandhi. Mea maximum culpa. It was Gandhi indeed. -- Carsten Otte IBM Linux technology center ARCH=s390

IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread Little, Chris
I was just asked what software we needed for our z/VM and Linux environments. Here is the gotcha -- IBM only. We only use z/VM to host our Linux guests and it will remain that way in the forseeable future. We have TSM, Dirmaint, and Performance Toolkit. Anything else we should think about that

VSWITCH controller question

2005-11-17 Thread Mrohs, Ray
I set up our VSWITCH networking in one of our VM partitions with controller and OSA failover ability. I was under the impression I should define one more controller than I have VSWITCHes, so I have 2 VSWITCHes and 3 controllers. But it looks like one controller can support any number of

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread David Boyes
I was just asked what software we needed for our z/VM and Linux environments. Here is the gotcha -- IBM only. We only use z/VM to host our Linux guests and it will remain that way in the forseeable future. We have TSM, Dirmaint, and Performance Toolkit. Anything else we should think about

Re: VSWITCH controller question

2005-11-17 Thread David Boyes
I was under the impression I should define one more controller than I have VSWITCHes, so I have 2 VSWITCHes and 3 controllers. But it looks like one controller can support any number of VSWITCHes. So I think I only need 1 controller in reserve. Any reason to keep controller 3 around? Nope.

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread David Kreuter
For securing logons, links, guest lans, rdrs: RACF If you have multiple LPARs consider RSCS for file and data transfer Good luck - David -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Little, Chris Sent: Thu 11/17/2005 10:56 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: IBM software

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread Little, Chris
Does z/VM have a facility to accept job scheduling from either JES or Tivoli Workload Scheduler? -Original Message- From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:17 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread Thomas David Rivers
If you get RACF, you'll need HLASM (or, you can use the DIGNUS replacement there for a lot less money...) - Dave Rivers - For securing logons, links, guest lans, rdrs: RACF If you have multiple LPARs consider RSCS for file and data transfer Good luck - David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread David Boyes
Does z/VM have a facility to accept job scheduling from either JES or Tivoli Workload Scheduler? The RSCS license will allow you to send files and messages to CMSBATCH and interact with PROP to do commands, but there is no direct support for TWS. The IBM Batch Facility for CMS might also be

Using SAMBA / NFS for data interchange between Windows and Linux - any reservations?

2005-11-17 Thread Ranga Nathan
I am proposing an architecture that will do away with myriad FTPs within our network and replace it with a simple LAN based file sharing using SAMBA / NFS / NAS. The FTPs have been a little flaky and processes did not always check success / failure of FTP. I am hoping that LAN based file sharing

Re: Using SAMBA / NFS for data interchange between Windows and Linux - any reservations?

2005-11-17 Thread David Boyes
What I am not sure if how SAMBA / NFS perform under heavy load? Are there any gotchas? R/O sharing with only one writer shouldn't be a problem. R/W sharing will take some planning, in that file locking is done differently in Samba and NFS, and consistency may not be maintained to all the

Re: Which profile file is read on z/Linux?

2005-11-17 Thread Grega Bremec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Rich Smrcina wrote: | | Actually, DB2's use of /etc/inittab is for a good reason: it wants to | respawn a process if it ever dies, and init will do that properly. The | inittab really needs a form of directory include capability so that |

Re: Using SAMBA / NFS for data interchange between Windows and Linux - any reservations?

2005-11-17 Thread Stephen Y Odo
Sorry, not answering your question ... but appending my own to it ... We do lots of ftps as well and using NFS/SAMBA sounds like an interesting alternative. However, we just went through an audit and one of the requirements that came out of that is that all transfers have to be encrypted. So

Re: Using SAMBA / NFS for data interchange between Windows and Linux - any reservations?

2005-11-17 Thread David Kreuter
from an architecture perspective is ftp doing the same thing as nfs/samba? FTP is more of a come and get it - samba/nfs are here when you want it. Just a thought. David -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Ranga Nathan Sent: Thu 11/17/2005 1:33 PM To:

Re: Which profile file is read on z/Linux?

2005-11-17 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
Grega Bremec writes: I feel compelled to comment on this a little bit. Adding all sorts of things to /etc/inittab is considered to be pretty much intrusive and unwise in the Unix world, and as far as I'm concerned, it is actually by far the worst thing to just to keep a process around. There are

Re: Using SAMBA / NFS for data interchange between Windows and Linux - any reservations?

2005-11-17 Thread Yu Safin
On 11/17/05, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from an architecture perspective is ftp doing the same thing as nfs/samba? FTP is more of a come and get it - samba/nfs are here when you want it. Just a thought. David -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of

Re: SUSE install

2005-11-17 Thread Yu Safin
On 11/16/05, Kreiter, Chuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attempting to install SUSE on an LPAR. I have set up an SMB share on a LINUX PC and created the shares as specified in the install.bat file found on the first CD. After I configure the network, I am prompted to specify the installation

Re: Using SAMBA / NFS for data interchange between Windows and Linux - any reservations?

2005-11-17 Thread David Boyes
We do lots of ftps as well and using NFS/SAMBA sounds like an interesting alternative. However, we just went through an audit and one of the requirements that came out of that is that all transfers have to be encrypted. So we're using ftp with TLS/SSL encryption. Does SAMBA/NFS encrypt

Re: Which profile file is read on z/Linux?

2005-11-17 Thread John Summerfied
Edmund R. MacKenty wrote: Grega then goes on to describe his woes with db2fmcd, which is exactly the same behavior I've had it do to me, with no apparent cause and at very random and unfortunate times. There's actually a very simple solution, which I wish the DB2 team would consider, because

Java application on Linux for zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread Hugo Rivera
Hello list. We are testing Java app. on Linux (z/VM) and we're getting a very poor response time. End users get connected to Linux server through X-Win32 (evaluation mode). So far, I've no seen any Linux (CPU, memory/swapping, I/O) or network problem. To get a Xterm from Windows takes 3 -4 sec.

Re: Using SAMBA / NFS for data interchange between Windows and Linux - any reservations?

2005-11-17 Thread Ranga Nathan
__ Ranga Nathan / CSG Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California Tel: 714-442-7591 Fax: 714-442-2840 David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 11/17/2005 12:34 PM

Re: Using SAMBA / NFS for data interchange between Windows and Linux - any reservations?

2005-11-17 Thread Ranga Nathan
__ Ranga Nathan / CSG Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California Tel: 714-442-7591 Fax: 714-442-2840 Stephen Y Odo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 11/17/2005 12:20 PM

Re: Using SAMBA / NFS for data interchange between Windows and Linux - any reservations?

2005-11-17 Thread Ranga Nathan
__ Ranga Nathan / CSG Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California Tel: 714-442-7591 Fax: 714-442-2840 David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 11/17/2005 10:42 AM

Re: z/OS tcp/ip stack definitions for hipersocket

2005-11-17 Thread Post, Mark K
Even if you're actually using 8192 for your MTU size, you're taking a performance hit. Bump that up even higher to 32K. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:22 PM To:

Re: Windows Server thrashes Novell's Linux

2005-11-17 Thread Post, Mark K
How many of those patches were against packages that would not be in a base Windows install? I didn't see any URL to the actual report, so I can't answer that myself. How many of the patches against Linux required rebooting, versus restarting a service? How many problems does Microsoft know

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread Post, Mark K
I'm curious. Why does RACF require that you have HLASM (or your replacement)? Note that I've never worked on an MVS system that didn't have an assembler, so I've never paid much attention to what needed it or not. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: SUSE install

2005-11-17 Thread Post, Mark K
What do you have under that network share? SLESx expects a specific directory structure that is documented in the release notes on the CD. If you haven't set that up, it will fail. Mike MacIsaac has contributed a mksles9root.sh script to do that setup for you. It is available at

Re: Poor performance running VM under VM in a DR exercise

2005-11-17 Thread Doug Carroll
Yes, This was brought up in a recent lab/class in Poughkeepsie. Currently under VM including VM 5.2 being released this constraint still exists. the SIE instruction as stated is being emulated in software in a second level VM system. I think Denise said they where working on improving this but

Chargeback and Toolsets

2005-11-17 Thread Doug Carroll
For those who do charge back for their zLinux Servers I'd really be interested in hearing how you do your chargeback and what's including in the chargeback? for example. do you chargeback CPU Time or Whole Servers? Network? DASD? how about SAN storage and Tape. We're working on this now and

Re: Chargeback and Toolsets

2005-11-17 Thread Marcy Cortes
We're on a base/incremental funding model, so at request time, the users kick back some $. Ongoing support would go into base I think. They calculate the DASD costs the same as for distributed systems - so many $ per Gigabyte (can't remember the number but it include storage people time and some