I do not know if there's a version of Flex-ES that's had its 64-bit
emulation recoded from x86 to x86-64. I would not be surprised if Hercules
compiled for x86-64 would outperform Flex-ES built for x86 for the same
64-bit workload, but I am not in a position to do more than guess at that.
For a
Post, Mark K wrote:
Yes, it was intended to be a part of the GCC suite at some point in the
future. At the time I compiled and tested it, the compiler was not yet
to the point of generating any code. All it was doing was syntax
checking. I doubt very much it would ever generate code that
Evans, Kevin R wrote:
Currently we're using RHEL4 on z and Fedora Core for desktops. We keep
running into a wall with Java and different products using different
versions of Java. Between the GNU Java compiler, IBM's Java for Eclipse
with MQ Series to Sun Java for AJAX. We're swimming in too
On 9/20/06, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ATI and nVidia video drivers have a certain reputation: I don't use
them, but it seems not all users of either are entirely happy.
I trust you did notice he was asking about Linux on z/VM... And even
on Intel platform I would hope the
Hy guys,
how is possible to get the service pack level from my zLinux system?
Usually I get a kernel level issuing uname -a but I cannot see witch service
pack is related to it.
Is there another command or another file to see this information?
Thanks
Max
If anyone else needs it, C code for Malcolm Beattie's ext-int kernel
module to process external interrupts is in IBM's Redbook Large Scale
Linux Deployment at
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246824.html
Using the ext_int module, you can send a signal to a specified process
upon
receiving
The Rascal Pascal!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/19/2006 8:25 PM
Post, Mark K wrote:
Yes, it was intended to be a part of the GCC suite at some point in the
future. At the time I compiled and tested it, the compiler was not yet
to the point of generating any code. All it was doing was syntax
Hi,
Try the SPident command.
Regards.
On 9/20/06, Massimiliano Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hy guys,
how is possible to get the service pack level from my zLinux system?
Usually I get a kernel level issuing uname -a but I cannot see witch
service pack is related to it.
Is there
I do not have an spident command (command not found) on SLES 8.
Lea Stahr
Sr. System Administrator
Linux/Unix Team
630-753-5445
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dominic Coulombe
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:06
Try the SPident command.
This may or may not give you the results you want. If you haven't applied
the SP3 directly, but rather just maintained your system using YOU, SPident
will tell you that your system is not up-to-date.
:~ sudo SPident
CONCLUSION: System is NOT up-to-date!
found
Rob van der Heij wrote:
On 9/20/06, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ATI and nVidia video drivers have a certain reputation: I don't use
them, but it seems not all users of either are entirely happy.
I trust you did notice he was asking about Linux on z/VM... And even
on Intel
David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates
and if you'd like to know more
http://www.bbc.co.uk/learnwelsh/..
OTOH I suspect Spanish is probably more useful in most of the world.
Remember, you're talking to a crowd that probably had to learn COBOL to
survive... 8-)
Spanish may be more useful,
The package was introduced with SP3 or SP4 under SLES8 if my memory is
correct.
You can download the package from the Novell patch repository and then you
will be able to evaluate which SP is installed.
And it is SPident, located in /usr/bin/SPident .
Regards.
On 9/20/06, Stahr, Lea [EMAIL
In that case, run SPident - (yes, 4 v) and try to understand which
packages were not updated correctly.
You need only to have one conflicting package to receive a not up-to-date
status.
On 9/20/06, Mark D Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try the SPident command.
This may or may not give
Jay Maynard wrote:
A nice fast 8-way Opteron would probably outrun the average PartnerWorld
Flex-ES box, but that's hardly an apples-to-apples comparison. :-)
I'd be content to judge their finest against the finest alternative to
be a fair comparison.
If _I_ wanted the best possible box to
I do not have an spident command (command not found) on SLES 8
Also watch your case it's SPident not spident
Mark D Pace
Senior Systems Engineer
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32317
Office: 850.219.5184
Fax: 888.221.9862
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This
I tried both.
Lea Stahr
Sr. System Administrator
Linux/Unix Team
630-753-5445
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark D Pace
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:34 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Service
I don't really understand what Flex-ES is - I have some idea it's some
hardware-plus-software imitation mainframe.
FlexES is a software mainframe processor and I/O system emulation
product that has historically been the only emulated mainframe solution
blessed by IBM, ie that you could legally
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:28:13PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
A nice fast 8-way Opteron would probably outrun the average PartnerWorld
Flex-ES box, but that's hardly an apples-to-apples comparison. :-)
I'd be content to judge their finest against the finest alternative to
be a fair
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:38:14AM -0400, David Boyes wrote:
About the same, realistically (albeit throwing more hardware at a
Hercules solution is a LOT cheaper). The key issue is that you can
legally license IBM software on FlexES; you can't do that on Hercules.
I'd say it's not known
Post, Mark K wrote:
Yes, it was intended to be a part of the GCC suite at some point in
the
future. At the time I compiled and tested it, the compiler was not
yet
to the point of generating any code. All it was doing was syntax
checking. I doubt very much it would ever generate code
Well, if you're just doing z/Linux, you can throw one hell of a fast
box
at
the problem with Hercules for what you would spend on Flex-ES.
This is *very* true. A 8 core name-brand Opteron system with 16G of RAM
prices out at a little under $7K list. Whitebox Opteron systems are
about $1K
I'd say it's not known whether you can do that on Hercules. AFAIK,
nobody
has ever gotten a refusal to license on Hercules at any price from IBM
in
writing. If such a document exists, I'd appreciate seeing it; until I
do,
there's been enough FUD thrown around from one particular party that
I tried the command and got:
foundSLES-9-s390-SP1 + online updates
expected SLES-9-s390-SP3
l21:/opt/scripts # uname -a
Linux l2x1 2.6.5-7.276-s390 #1 SMP Mon Jul 24
10:45:31 UTC 2006 s390 s390 s390 GNU/Linux
What does it mean expected? I thought we were at sp3??
thanks
Mace
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As I mentionned earlier, you might want to run SPident - to check which
packages were not correctly updated, then run the update manually (rpm -Fvh
myfile.rpm).
You should be able to work your way around with this.
On 9/20/06, LJ Mace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried the command and
I have found that it's not updating package sles-release if you've just
use the online-update (or equiv ) method. Haven't had time to pursue
that minor annoyance.
Marcy Cortes
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On 9/12/06, Bill Bitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It depends. From a response time perspective, the bulk of the
difference is dependent on the hardware. FICON/FCP to DS8000
both will likely give similar response time. Processor time,
particularly in a virtualized environment will vary
On 9/13/06, Pieter Harder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have one problem with the info provided by this reference.
Nowhere I can find does it talk about the dedicated FCP being single-path or
multi-path.
If the measurements were done with a multi-path setup -- great.
If the measurements were done
On 9/13/06, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We have been looking at an IBM VTS setup for quite a while.
Well, now the network people (open systems group) is interested.
Apparently, with the B18, we can also share it with Win/2000, Win/XP
and the like. Just need another card for the
When you DO have performance problems, with ECKD you can identify
the problem, as there is lots of instrumentation. WIth FCP
support, the instrumentation is very limited. Thus performance
advantages are dependent on everything working perfectly which
doesn't happen in my world. Performance
On 9/20/06, Yu Safin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given the results from the IBM benchmark and the comments in this
paper, I am a bit confused as to when to use FCP and when to use ECKD.
Assuming an EMC Symm. disk subsystem, zVM and SLES, wouldn't I want
to keep my multipath simple by using ECKD
I had once commented that IBM should've brought out a Klingonaase version
of ViaVoice; I'm sure that would have sold *exceptionally* well at SciFi
conventions.
John R. Campbell, Speaker to Machines (GNUrd) (813) 356-5322 (t/l 697)
Adsumo ergo raptus sum
MacOS X: Because
On Wednesday, 09/20/2006 at 02:18 ZE2, Rob van der Heij
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having a single OSA portname in the device that must be
presented by the Linux device driver is a pretty dumb idea when you
want to virtualize things.
Right. So why specify the OSA portname? We got rid of that
Jay Maynard clarified:
John Summerfield wrote:
In such an environment, lack of VM might not matter so much, the
virtualisation could be done natively rather than in the emulated
environment.
Indeed. Simply run multiple copies of Hercules. This only works, of
course,
as long as you're not
What would interest me more would be getting gcc available in z/OS Unix System
Services. But that's another list . . .
Jon
snip
If there is serious interest in funding someone to do it, we have the
people and are willing to get it done.
/snip
Has anyone recently done a successful SLES9 install under z/VM using
non-QDIO OSAs? From z/VM we have connectivity to our Linux install
workstation, can FTP files across but when we start the SLES9 install
dialog and enter all the networking info it cannot detect the network.
Here is a
Would this do? http://www.spftools.com/downloads/gccmvs.htm
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jon Brock
Sent: September 20, 2006 14:31
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: PL/I and C cross compilers
What would interest me more would be
This is one reason why I prefer using the online_update command, as
opposed to YaST. I can easily specify all patch types, and when I'm
done, SPident displays the results I expect.
Of course, with SLES10, that command goes away. Sigh. Time to learn
about rug and zmd and Deity knows what else.
Available at: http://www.sinenomine.net/node/565
Neale
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From the gcc for VM/ESA download package:
GCC R323 for VM/ESA
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This memo describes the initial release of a GCC R323 for VM.
The code is mostly take from Paul Edward's native MVS port from
(http://www.spftools.com/downloads/gccmvs.htm) which in turn is based
on Dave Pitts
Mace,
I had the same results as you several months ago after using YAST to
apply online updates up through SP3. YAST did not automatically select
all of our packages. Here's how I was able to get clean results from
the SPident command.
1. SPident -vvv (like Dominic stated)
2. Note the
Does anyone successfully run Domino 6.5.x on Linux Vm?
As the Domino administrator I do not have a baseline for performance on any
of these boxes. Niether can I speak to the way the vm has been setup. I am
basing my opinion on my experience with the existing zlinux installs here
and the number
That's certainly interesting. I hadn't heard of PDPCLIB or the whole
SPFTOOLS stuff before. The problem I have had here is lack of a C compiler on
z/OS (not to mention lack of time, talent, expertise, marbles, and sundry other
things).
Who knows? If I get a few things
I had once commented that IBM should've brought out a Klingonaase
version
of ViaVoice; I'm sure that would have sold *exceptionally* well at
SciFi
conventions.
There are patches to Dragon Systems' voice recognition tools (at least
for WindowS) to employ the training files from 'Star Trek:
Hi Jon,
Dave Pitts also has GCC working on MVS (USS, I think) with the Dignus runtime.
Or, of course; you could license our tools... http://www.dignus.com
- Dave Rivers -
That's certainly interesting. I hadn't heard of PDPCLIB or the
whole SPFTOOLS stuff before. The
I have a customer running Domino on Linux for zSeries under VM.
Unfortunately it is only used for outbound email (SMTP) at this time. :(
Rich Smrcina
VM Assist, Inc.
Main: (866)569-7378
Cell: (414)491-6001
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- Original Message
This may seem like an odd question, but can you install SuSE Linux from
the Service Pack ISOs? I can and do, from the RH Update ISOs. I cannot
seem to get a fresh installation (from scratch) when using the ISOs
distributed from SuSE as Service Packs. Maybe I'm not supposed to be
able to? I'm
Sure I could; I'd just have to pay for them out of my own pocket, and it is
already shy of everything but lint.
Jon
snip
Or, of course; you could license our tools... http://www.dignus.com
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One problem I have now is, Yast/YOU does not offer the patch that is
supposed to resolve the not uptodate message from Spident -vv command.
The patch is available from the patch server, but is not listed when you
attempt to do an online update. I have no idea why the patch is not
listed so that
You need to install base and then service packs on top of them. The SP ISOs
are missing a few things that prevent you from doing an install.
You can setup a merged install tree using Mike MacIsaac's
mksles9root.shscript though which will solve the problem. The script
is documented in his
On Sep 20, 2006, at 8:12 AM, David Boyes wrote:
About
the only thing missing is OSA Express L2 support, AFAIK -- which is
really useful to support VSWITCHes.
Can Flex do this either, yet?
I would assume that since there's now an Open Source QDIO Ethernet
driver for Linux, that that gives
Jay Maynard wrote:
On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 10:28:13PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
A nice fast 8-way Opteron would probably outrun the average PartnerWorld
Flex-ES box, but that's hardly an apples-to-apples comparison. :-)
I'd be content to judge their finest against the finest alternative
David Boyes wrote:
In such an environment, lack of VM might not matter so much, the
virtualisation could be done natively rather than in the emulated
environment.
Indeed. Simply run multiple copies of Hercules. This only works, of
course,
as long as you're not doing things that depend on
Sadly no :(
The impression that I get is that even though the driver code is open
sourced (for Linux), there is enough of the function still proprietary
to prevent Fundamental from making anything useful from it. I keep
asking about it and hope is still alive... :)
Adam Thornton wrote:
On
On Sep 20, 2006, at 4:48 PM, John Summerfield wrote:
I don't expect one could run up Adam's 4 virtual Linuxes, but I'd
expect one to get more than two or three.
Er, those were David's, not mine.
Adam
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Sharing DASD on Hercules should be trivial. Same for Flex-ES. Unless they code
against the sharing of the underlying files (eg: with an EXCL open), then
simply define multiple disks with the same file.
This quickly leads to things like CD-ROM (or just .iso files) as FBA, even
IPLable. Linux
You should log on to the Novell site and download the patch manually.
From there, upgrade by using rpm -Fvh yourfile.rpm .
On 20-Sep-2006, at 16:11, Ifurung, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One problem I have now is, Yast/YOU does not offer the patch that is
supposed to resolve the not uptodate
On Sep 20, 2006, at 4:54 PM, Rich Smrcina wrote:
Sadly no :(
The impression that I get is that even though the driver code is open
sourced (for Linux), there is enough of the function still proprietary
to prevent Fundamental from making anything useful from it. I keep
asking about it and hope
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