Re: SLES9 SP 3, Oracle 9.2, Java Not Found

2006-12-06 Thread Brendan Kelly
> I am trying ti install Oracle 9i (9.2.0.1 for Linux on S390) on my > SLES9 SP3 System. Are you running SLES9 64bit or 31bit? 9i is a 31bit app but will run on a 64bit distro. You will need an old gcc (2.9.7 I think) and also a 31bit JRE + all the 31 bit compats. Cheers - Tex (Embedded

Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs?

2006-12-06 Thread Brendan Kelly
> I suspect that's regional: in Europe I think SUSE has most, US (let's > say North America) and Oz, it would be Red Hat. Oz is actually mostly SLES on z -in my experience. Cheers - Tex (Embedded (Embedded image moved to file: image moved

Re: SNA via OSA - Best option?

2006-12-06 Thread Ingo Adlung
Linux on 390 Port wrote on 07.12.2006 06:25:33: > On Wednesday, 12/06/2006 at 07:26 MST, Lee Stewart > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Getting close to trying this, but... > > > > For Linux to use it, I have to give a MAC address to Linux, right? (In > > Yast/Network Devices/Network Card/Advanced

Re: SNA via OSA - Best option?

2006-12-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/06/2006 at 07:26 MST, Lee Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Getting close to trying this, but... > > For Linux to use it, I have to give a MAC address to Linux, right? (In > Yast/Network Devices/Network Card/Advanced Options.) I don't know how to set the MAC manually on Linux.

Re: backing up a logical volume

2006-12-06 Thread Patrick Spinler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 LJ Mace wrote: > We are running linux on z/vm. We are going to be > backing up up our db2 and custom areas on a daily > basis, and place it on a logical vol within the linux > server, that isn't a problem. What management wants to > do is to back that

Re: SNA via OSA - Best option?

2006-12-06 Thread Lee Stewart
Getting close to trying this, but... For Linux to use it, I have to give a MAC address to Linux, right? (In Yast/Network Devices/Network Card/Advanced Options.) What do I use for a MAC address? And if I just pick one, how do I know it's valid and not a dup on the net? Thanks for any insight.

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Dec 6, 2006, at 5:18 PM, David Boyes wrote: File shows ./java to be a Bourne Shell script. This is IBMJava2-s390-131, that came as part of the Oracle 9i distribution. That seems wrong. *Is* it a script? If so, what is it actually executing (vi it and have a peek at what binary it's actually

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread John Summerfield
David Stuart wrote: John, This is a 31-bit box, not a 64-bit box, so no, the guidelines for an AMD-64 Opteron would not be applicable. There does not appear to be a Then interpret the guidelines for IA32:-) The real memory requirement is a function of word size (64-bit instruction sets may i

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Stuart
John, This is a 31-bit box, not a 64-bit box, so no, the guidelines for an AMD-64 Opteron would not be applicable. There does not appear to be a Linux on S/390 specific install guide (at least I haven't been able to find one), so I am making do with the 'generic' Unix install guide. I have a 339

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread John Summerfield
David Stuart wrote: Mark, If it is, in fact, a memory issue, then I'm probably done with it. I have @600M available in the LPAR (no VM), and that's as much as I can give it. This box only has 2G, allocated across 5 LPARs. 1. I reiterate, a segfault is always a bug, it should never happen j

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread John Summerfield
Neale Ferguson wrote: The 1.3.1 java came with the script that within it would invoke the binary. A set -x will allow you to trace it. On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 17:18 -0500, David Boyes wrote: Even better, run the thing under strace. It will very quickly become blindingly obvious if you're trying t

Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs?

2006-12-06 Thread Brendan Kelly
> > It would be *ideal* for us to just ship source packages, but our > intuition is that no matter how simple the > build process, some customers will only want binaries (the opposite of > my preference :-) You need to consider ease of ongoing support for the product. Most large shops will shy aw

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Post
It sounds like a possibility. As Mark Pace said, he used the Java that was already on his system, not the one that shipped with Oracle. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Stuart Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 4:55 PM To: LI

Re: apache mod-ldap problem

2006-12-06 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 12/6/06, Levy, Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am building it from source to get the latest and greatest version. I have had no problems building apache from source without ldap. No doubt you're fully aware that mixing RPM and tarball installs is delicate art and you may end multiple vers

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread Marian Gasparovic
You can still add more DASD to swap and you will get much more memory. Performance will suffer, but you will be able to find out if memory constraint is the reason for install failure. Marian --- David Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark, > > If it is, in fact, a memory issue, then I'm pro

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Stuart
Mark, If it is, in fact, a memory issue, then I'm probably done with it. I have @600M available in the LPAR (no VM), and that's as much as I can give it. This box only has 2G, allocated across 5 LPARs. Thanks, Dave Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread Neale Ferguson
The 1.3.1 java came with the script that within it would invoke the binary. A set -x will allow you to trace it. On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 17:18 -0500, David Boyes wrote: > > File shows ./java to be a Bourne Shell script. > > This is IBMJava2-s390-131, that came as part of the Oracle 9i > > distributio

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Boyes
> That doesn't sound right to me. If it was a non-390 binary, you wouldn't > be > getting far enough in execution to generate a segfault. Not necessarily. It depends a lot on the instruction mix in the binary. Some failures generate 'bus error', some generate 'segfault', depending how lucky you a

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Boyes
> File shows ./java to be a Bourne Shell script. > This is IBMJava2-s390-131, that came as part of the Oracle 9i > distribution. That seems wrong. *Is* it a script? If so, what is it actually executing (vi it and have a peek at what binary it's actually running, and test that with 'file')? If it's

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread John Summerfield
Mark Pace wrote: "Typically" in my experience a segmentation fault is caused by serious lack of memory. Our Oracle installed complained that it need over 900MB for the install. I would expect insufficient memory to cause out of memory problems. An application with insufficient memory might per

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Post
That doesn't sound right to me. If it was a non-390 binary, you wouldn't be getting far enough in execution to generate a segfault. Plus, there would be some message in the system log about not being able to load module binfmt-blahblah. I would double check the virtual storage size, and if that

Re: apache mod-ldap problem

2006-12-06 Thread John Summerfield
Mark Post wrote: First, why are you building Apache from source, instead of using the version that comes with your distribution? Second, I would strongly recommend looking at the .spec file that your distribution ships with its source RPM file. That will show you exactly how they built apache,

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Pace
I installed the JRE that came with my SuSE distribution. This is IBMJava2-s390-131, that came as part of the Oracle 9i distribution. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive a

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Stuart
Cgris, Could this be due to a mismatch between Java levels? The version of Java that installed with SLES 9 SP 3 is IBMJava2-1.4.2. The version that came with Oracle 9i is IBMJava2-1.3.1. And just a moment ago, java -version worked, from deep in the bowels of the install directories. But it re

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread Little, Chris
Segfaults are always (always? I hate using that word, because I "always" am shown up) due to accessing uninitialized memory, ie. a bad pointer. > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mark Pace > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:11 PM

Re: backing up a logical volume

2006-12-06 Thread Marcy Cortes
As long as your filesystem were unmounted, I would think you could leave the server up while backing up that unmounted stuff from your favorite VM utility... Might have to practice all the LVM incantations you would need to get it all back online after your server was lost and you rebuilt it, thoug

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Stuart
File shows ./java to be a Bourne Shell script. This is IBMJava2-s390-131, that came as part of the Oracle 9i distribution. Dave Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/6/2006 12:21 PM >>> > When I issue a .

Re: backing up a logical volume

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Post
What are you running for backup on the mainframe now? Most vendors provide agents for Linux/390 systems to do over-the-network backups. I know David has proposed using Bacula, but if you already have something in place that can be slightly expanded to cover your Linux guests, then that would prob

Re: Nationwide Insurance swaps servers for virtualized mainframes

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Post
Well, no. The operating systems that run on the guests are not the things that are being virtualized. Since z/VM is virtualizing an entire machine for each guest, it's well within reason to call those guests virtualized mainframes. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [

Re: Nationwide Insurance swaps servers for virtualized mainframes

2006-12-06 Thread Crispin Hugo
Surly its Real mainframes and virtualixed Linux/zos/vse etc, been doing it for 20 + years. Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageL

Re: Nationwide Insurance swaps servers for virtualized mainframes

2006-12-06 Thread Chaplin, James
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Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Boyes
> When I issue a ./java, I receive a Segmentation fault. > Any idea what this may mean, or how to resolve it? I'd guess that you have a non-390 architecture java binary in the package. What does 'file ./java' report? -- db -- F

Re: backing up a logical volume

2006-12-06 Thread David Boyes
> We are running linux on z/vm. We are going to be > backing up up our db2 and custom areas on a daily > basis, and place it on a logical vol within the linux > server, that isn't a problem. What management wants to > do is to back that data up daily to some kind of media > and ship it offsite. E

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Pace
"Typically" in my experience a segmentation fault is caused by serious lack of memory. Our Oracle installed complained that it need over 900MB for the install. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For LINUX-390 subscribe

Re: Nationwide Insurance swaps servers for virtualized mainframes

2006-12-06 Thread Daniel P. Martin
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backing up a logical volume

2006-12-06 Thread LJ Mace
We are running linux on z/vm. We are going to be backing up up our db2 and custom areas on a daily basis, and place it on a logical vol within the linux server, that isn't a problem. What management wants to do is to back that data up daily to some kind of media and ship it offsite. The lgv will be

Nationwide Insurance swaps servers for virtualized mainframes

2006-12-06 Thread McKown, John
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Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Stuart
Morning, I have some further information on this problem. It appears to be a problem initializing the Java environment that comes as part of the distribution package. From any prompt, if I issue a java -version, it runs just fine, indicating it is IBMJava2 1.4.2. The fully qualified path to Jav

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Andrews
> The vmstat command is part of Linux, not z/VM. That is, if you have > the right RPM installed. I believe it's sysstat. If I'm not mistaken (as if THAT ever happens) it's procps. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Stuart
Chris, I like to think so. Yast2 runs in graphical format, and xclock works just fine. Dave Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/6/2006 10:30 AM >>> Yes. The prompt (after pressing enter) does return

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread Little, Chris
Yes. The prompt (after pressing enter) does return after runInstaller begins it's thing. Do you have your X environment set up correctly? > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of David Stuart > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:57 AM >

Re: apache mod-ldap problem

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Post
That's fine as long as you and your management realize and accept: 1. The latest isn't always the greatest. 2. You're running in an unsupported situation. 3. You're now responsible for monitoring security alerts for Apache. 4. You're now responsible for building the new version whenever alerts come

Re: apache mod-ldap problem

2006-12-06 Thread Levy, Alan
I am building it from source to get the latest and greatest version. I have had no problems building apache from source without ldap. Alan Levy VM/Linux Administrator W: 718-403-8020 C: 347-401-4629 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark P

Re: apache mod-ldap problem

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Post
First, why are you building Apache from source, instead of using the version that comes with your distribution? Second, I would strongly recommend looking at the .spec file that your distribution ships with its source RPM file. That will show you exactly how they built apache, and thereby generat

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Post
That's one of the reasons I like working with Linux so much. I do learn a lot of new things. Sometimes the education is painful, but most of the time it's a huge amount of fun. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Stuart Sent: W

apache mod-ldap problem

2006-12-06 Thread Levy, Alan
Sorry if I am posting to the wrong group. Is there an apache group other than users@httpd.apache.org (I keep getting system admin mail box full errors) ? I have installed openssl 0.9.8d, openldap 2.3.27, Berkley db 4.5.20, cyrus sasl 2.1.22 and compiled apache 2.2.3: The apache co

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Stuart
Thanks Mark, Learn something new every day! Dave Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/6/2006 8:54 AM >>> The vmstat command is part of Linux, not z/VM. That is, if you have the right RPM installed. I bel

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Stuart
Hello Marian, Top doesn't show anything active related to Java initialization, or anything running that I can identify as belonging to the runInstaller process. I also ran runInstaller through strace (suggested by someone lese the other day). It appears that the runInstaller process issues the m

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Post
The vmstat command is part of Linux, not z/VM. That is, if you have the right RPM installed. I believe it's sysstat. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Stuart Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:17 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST

Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem

2006-12-06 Thread David Stuart
Marian, In one case yesterday, I started runInstaller before I had to go to a meeting, and then lunch. When I finally got back to it, it had been at least two hours since I had started it. There was nothing there. No Oracle installer screen, and no other messages, after the Please Wait... I do

Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs?

2006-12-06 Thread John Summerfield
Rick Troth wrote: I said: Build the package outside of RPM control. That is, DO NOT ship it as built from the SRPM. You can and should still ship an SRPM. Do an 'rpmbuild -bb' against a built and installed package. John then said: I _hate_ packages built this way. I fully expect that,

Re: Booting from mirrored DASD

2006-12-06 Thread John Summerfield
Rick Troth wrote: Rob said: Linux identifies the volumes by address rather than label ... Then Vic said (to John): The filesystem labels are not visible until *after* the DASD driver has made all the disks present. Rob is lamenting that the DASD driver is unable to use VOLSER to map dis

Re: Booting from mirrored DASD

2006-12-06 Thread John Summerfield
Rick Troth wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, John Summerfield wrote: This would work in well with Xen too, where one can present a partition to a guest which can use it as a physical volume and partition it. Just to be clear, you do mean to partition a partition, correct? Sure. You can configur

Re: Yast2 - Cannot read package data from installation media

2006-12-06 Thread Bertil Starck
Hi! In Yast I use the "Software" and the submenu "Change Source of Installation" to recognize the media for the upgrade process. So it can look like this: Status│Name │URL │ On │dir:///cd1/│dir:///cd1 │ Off │nfs://172.24.19.49/home/