Re: Root filesystem error switches to ReadOnly

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Perry
Fargusson.Alan wrote: Unless this changed in 2.6 the block devices go through VFS, and the blocks get cached by the VFS layer. VFS only comes into play when a filesystem (on a block device) is mounted. If you access a block device directly (not via a path of the mountpoint) then VFS is not

Re: Support dates for IBM products on new releases of SLES

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Perry
I can't speak for the products Marcy has listed, but there are factors that often prevent support from day 1: 1) The schedule is Novell's and not IBM's 2) The Schedule can slip even for beta releases causing testing delays. 3) IBM Testing is not complete until you have tested on a Novell GA

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread John Summerfield
Klein, Robert (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: I recently joined this list. The welcoming email gave a couple of URLs for such things as FAQs, but when I tried to access the urls, I got a page not found message. If these pages still exist somewhere else, could someone please provide the new urls. Also,

Re: Differece in RED Hat and Suse

2008-08-25 Thread John Summerfield
Mark Post wrote: like YaST, and wish Red Hat had a similar one place to go to for administration functions. I've been arguing that one for years, before I'd even encountered YAST. Brad? I reckon that some of the RH admin tools are there just so RH can mark checkboxes, Got that. --

Re: Problem with chccwdev and SuSE SLES10 SP2

2008-08-25 Thread Peter 1 Oberparleiter
Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 24.08.2008 16:53:44: When I do now a e.g. chccwdev -e 0.0.3210 it is working, I can use the disk. Then I do a unmount, chccwdev -d 0.0.3210 and a vmcp detach. Later, when I want to do a second time this exercise, chccwdev retruns a fail and a

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-25 Thread Peter 1 Oberparleiter
Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 22.08.2008 23:30:24: On 8/22/2008 at 4:45 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- That's the error you get when the virtual machine hasn't activated the integrated linemode console interface. I

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-25 Thread Peter 1 Oberparleiter
Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 22.08.2008 20:40:25: Interesting.. I grabbed that from the device drivers reference (maybe old link): download.boulder.ibm.com/ibmdl/pub/software/dw/linux390/docu/l390dd03.pdf (p. 27, pdf p. 39) It mentions: To resolve this problem, the

Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version

2008-08-25 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Well, for sure, some things stand out more when you look at the code on paper. Sometimes, scrolling up and down on a screen tends to obfuscate the code. This is more so (at least for me) with assembler code (which I'll admit to not knowing as well as C). Kevin

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread Evans, Kevin R
I don't believe that everyone believes in pruning out everything. Many people reply at the top. If for no other reason than replies can be kept in context. I don't want to start a war about email etiquette here, just to say that I believe that not everyone agrees with points 3 4 below. BTW, what

Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Perry
Evans, Kevin R wrote: Well, for sure, some things stand out more when you look at the code on paper. Sometimes, scrolling up and down on a screen tends to obfuscate the code. This is more so (at least for me) with assembler code (which I'll admit to not knowing as well as C). Code? We had hex

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Perry
Evans, Kevin R wrote: I don't believe that everyone believes in pruning out everything. Many people reply at the top. If for no other reason than replies can be kept in context. There are arguments for and against top or bottom replies. In this reply I have chosen below, but then I have

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Actually, sniping is discouraged. Snipping is encouraged. :) MA On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Mark Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: SNIPING is encouraged! mark -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Mark Perry When posting to a mailing list there is no need to re-post data that is already available within the mailing list. You only need to leave the relevant text that you wish to refer to. SNIPING is encouraged!

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Yes, I know there are arguments for and against. I wasn't trying to start a war (it's been discussed before ad nauseum). I thought that a newbie poster might not realize this. In my case, I tend to read a post, then reply or not, then delete the email. Therefore to me, I find it easier to be able

Rename vol label

2008-08-25 Thread Philip Hitti
Hi all, How the volume label can be changed for the Z/linux machine which is cloned . Thanks all [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Perry
Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Actually, sniping is discouraged. Snipping is encouraged. :) http://wilk4.com/humor/doh.htm mark -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Perry
Evans, Kevin R wrote: Sometimes these posts can last for over a week...I can't always remember the original posted question. You do look at the archives by thread, right? example: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-390@vm.marist.edu/ mark

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread Evans, Kevin R
I rarely look at the archives. I check my email constantly and handle any replies directly from my inbox. Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Perry Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:55 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: List

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Mark Perry Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Actually, sniping is discouraged. Snipping is encouraged. :) http://wilk4.com/humor/doh.htm Previously spelled Duh, uttered most often by Moose in the Archie comic books. -jc-

Re: Two Different YaST2 Control Center displays

2008-08-25 Thread Mrohs, Ray
No. They still look different. System A shows all the elements on a scrolling screen. System B shows just the elements for the active category. System A gets these messages: # yast2 lnxm500:~ # ALSA lib confmisc.c:672:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0' ALSA lib

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread David Boyes
I don't believe that everyone believes in pruning out everything. Many people reply at the top. If for no other reason than replies can be kept in context. I don't want to start a war about email etiquette here, just to say that I believe that not everyone agrees with points 3 4 below. I

Re: Rename vol label

2008-08-25 Thread David Boyes
How the volume label can be changed for the Z/linux machine which is cloned . Use minidisks. Then you don't have to change them. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: Rename vol label

2008-08-25 Thread Marcy Cortes
David's is the best answer, but if you must, use fdasd -l to change them. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this

Re: Rename vol label

2008-08-25 Thread Ron Foster at Baldor-IS
If you have a zOS system that can access your drives, then you can have the zOS systems programmer clip your volume serial number. David Boyes wrote: How the volume label can be changed for the Z/linux machine which is cloned . Use minidisks. Then you don't have to change them.

Re: Rename vol label

2008-08-25 Thread David Boyes
ICKDSF on VM can do it too. If you're cloning, though, you *want* the volume ids that the guest sees to be the same, so that they truly ARE clones. The only way to do that is to give the guest minidisks rather than full volumes. Losing 150K of disk space vs having to hand-hack each guest, or

100 Vim commands every programmer should know

2008-08-25 Thread McKown, John
Fairly nice quick reference type summary. http://www.catswhocode.com/blog/web-development/100-vim-commands-every-p rogrammer-should-know-11 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: Differece in RED Hat and Suse

2008-08-25 Thread Brad Hinson
John Summerfield wrote: Mark Post wrote: like YaST, and wish Red Hat had a similar one place to go to for administration functions. I've been arguing that one for years, before I'd even encountered YAST. Brad? I reckon that some of the RH admin tools are there just so RH can mark

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Post
On 8/25/2008 at 4:12 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter 1 Oberparleiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 22.08.2008 23:30:24: On 8/22/2008 at 4:45 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- That's the

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Post
On 8/25/2008 at 4:24 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter 1 Oberparleiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 22.08.2008 20:40:25: Interesting.. I grabbed that from the device drivers reference (maybe old link):

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, David Boyes wrote: Hi, I don't believe that everyone believes in pruning out everything. Many people reply at the top. If for no other reason than replies can be kept in context. I don't want to start a war about email etiquette here, just to say that I believe that

APAR Opened and workaround

2008-08-25 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
FYI, an apar has been opened (below) and a workaround is presented for an XRC suspend that occurs when formatting a VM minidisk. Mary Anne APAR= OA26125 SER=MS MSGANTX5104E XRC ANTX5104E RC=0901 DURING FORMAT OF A VM MINIDISK STAT= OPEN FESN0565517-

Self inflicted bad file system

2008-08-25 Thread Bill Dodge
I recently did a lvreduce on a 4.5GB logical volume by 2GB and created a second logical volume. I never got around to recreating the file system on the original logical volume. This weekend when the system got shutdown it died on the restart because of this. It is running fsck and I have

Re: Self inflicted bad file system

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Post
On 8/25/2008 at 1:28 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently did a lvreduce on a 4.5GB logical volume by 2GB and created a second logical volume. I never got around to recreating the file system on the original logical volume. This weekend when

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Post
On 8/24/2008 at 8:28 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 24 Aug 2008, Mark Post wrote: On 8/23/2008 at 12:26 PM, in message So, what does ls -l /dev/tty* show you? Also, what does your hercules configuration file look like? # ls /dev/tty*

Re: Two Different YaST2 Control Center displays

2008-08-25 Thread Stricklin, Raymond J
-Original Message- From: Mrohs, Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No. They still look different. System A shows all the elements on a scrolling screen. System B shows just the elements for the active category. System A gets these messages: # yast2 lnxm500:~ # ALSA lib

Re: Self inflicted bad file system

2008-08-25 Thread Bill Dodge
Thanks Mark. Sometimes the pain from the bullet in the foot makes it hard to see the simple solutions. Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote: On 8/25/2008 at 1:28 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently did a lvreduce on a 4.5GB

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-25 Thread Robin Atwood
On Tuesday 26 Aug 2008, Mark Post wrote: Ok, I got things working on my hercules system, but I'm not sure it's going to satisfy you. From what I can tell, you can't get a 3270 effect on the actual hercules console. You have to use a TN3270 connection to the TCP/IP port specified by

Re: Differece in RED Hat and Suse

2008-08-25 Thread John Summerfield
Brad Hinson wrote: John Summerfield wrote: Mark Post wrote: like YaST, and wish Red Hat had a similar one place to go to for administration functions. I've been arguing that one for years, before I'd even encountered YAST. Brad? I reckon that some of the RH admin tools are there just so

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread John Summerfield
Evans, Kevin R wrote: I don't believe that everyone believes in pruning out everything. Many people reply at the top. If for no other reason than replies can be kept On most lists, top replies attract flames. in context. I don't want to start a war about email etiquette here, just to say

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread John Summerfield
Evans, Kevin R wrote: Yes, I know there are arguments for and against. I wasn't trying to start a war (it's been discussed before ad nauseum). I thought that a newbie poster might not realize this. In my case, I tend to read a post, then reply or not, then delete the email. Therefore to me, I

Re: List FAQ etc

2008-08-25 Thread John Summerfield
David Boyes wrote: There are times where I really miss low bandwidth communications, where the size of transfers actually mattered. That drove most of the Size still matters; until I moved house a year ago, I was pulling 4 Gbytes/month through my modem, and I really begrudged those who

Linux on Debian

2008-08-25 Thread Tom Delany
Hi. I posted this to the debian-s390 list, but so far no one there has bitten. Can anyone here help me? --- Can anyone out there give me a little nudge in the right direction for getting Debian running on a Z9 in an LPAR? I have tried both Etch and Lenny without any

Re: Linux on Debian

2008-08-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Aug 25, 2008, at 7:57 PM, Tom Delany wrote: Hi. I posted this to the debian-s390 list, but so far no one there has bitten. Can anyone here help me? --- Can anyone out there give me a little nudge in the right direction for getting Debian running on a Z9 in an LPAR?

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Post
On 8/25/2008 at 7:38 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- The kernel started using a Diagnose instruction not supported by Hercules. The problem is fixed in the CVS code. So I discovered. Getting the CVS code to build is another matter. When I

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Post
On 8/25/2008 at 7:38 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 26 Aug 2008, Mark Post wrote: -snip- - Update /etc/init.d/boot.local to add this command: /sbin/chccwdev -e 0.0. where is the device number assigned to your console. In

Re: Linux on Debian

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Post
On 8/25/2008 at 9:14 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- I'mamazed that you can get an LCS OSA on a z9. Tell me more about this OSAlike, how did it get in a z9? They can be configured to be in QDIO or LCS mode. Few people use the latter,

Re: linuxvm.org down ?

2008-08-25 Thread Ivan Warren
Mark Post wrote: I guess that, after all, I'll have to figure out git ! You could just send the diff to the Linux Kernel Mailing List (LKML). Learning git wasn't that hard ;).. I wanted to have a properly formatted and possibly retrievable patch ready.. (ok.. The patch was a 1 liner..

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-25 Thread Ivan Warren
Mark Post wrote: Since I can't get the CVS version of hercules to build, I cannot verify that. Uh ? What's wrong with it ? (if you don't mind telling me of course !) --Ivan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-25 Thread Robin Atwood
On Tuesday 26 Aug 2008, Mark Post wrote: - Update /etc/init.d/boot.local to add this command: /sbin/chccwdev -e 0.0. where is the device number assigned to your console. In your particular case, that would be /sbin/chccwdev -e 0.0.001f This is the critical point. I made