Re: The Naked Mainframe (Forbes Security Article)

2010-01-25 Thread Patrick Spinler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Boyes wrote: (Snip discussion of management tools, and large advantage existing z/VM tools have v. non-existent or very poor linux / kvm ones) I fear that while you're right, in the end it may not make a large difference. Specifically, in

Re: The Naked Mainframe (Forbes Security Article)

2010-01-25 Thread Shockley, Gerard C
Here is an experiment. Go here http://cve.mitre.org/compatible/vulnerability_management.html Click search Enter : s390x You will receive a page asking you to check spelling. Try zlinux also. Then enter : windows Any questions ://Gerard -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port

Re: The Naked Mainframe (Forbes Security Article)

2010-01-25 Thread David Boyes
On 1/25/10 12:01 PM, Patrick Spinler spinler.patr...@mayo.edu wrote: I fear that while you're right, in the end it may not make a large difference. Specifically, in our world, free or low up front cost often seems to trump most other considerations, including TCO over expected system

OOM-Killer shut down SSh

2010-01-25 Thread Robert Giordano
Can anyone provide any documentation or opinion on the use and management of the OOM-Killer process on SUSE Linux SLES 10 SP1? Regards

Re: OOM-Killer shut down SSh

2010-01-25 Thread Mark Post
On 1/25/2010 at 12:53 PM, Robert Giordano rgio...@us.ibm.com wrote: Can anyone provide any documentation or opinion on the use and management of the OOM-Killer process on SUSE Linux SLES 10 SP1? Not really. It's algorithms are hard-coded into the kernel. I'm not aware of any way to

Re: OOM-Killer shut down SSh

2010-01-25 Thread David Kreuter
My experience is with the effects of the OOM killer. Perhaps with Linux on a desktop it is ok as it may pick on non critical processes but in a virtual machine server environment it represents a drastic out of storage condition requiring immediate action. I have seen this a few times on Oracle

Re: OOM-Killer shut down SSh

2010-01-25 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:14:34 -0700 David Kreuter dkreu...@vm-resources.com wrote: My experience is with the effects of the OOM killer. Perhaps with Linux on a desktop it is ok as it may pick on non critical processes but in a virtual machine server environment it represents a drastic out of

Re: OOM-Killer shut down SSh

2010-01-25 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: On 1/25/2010 at 12:53 PM, Robert Giordano rgio...@us.ibm.com wrote: Can anyone provide any documentation or opinion on the use and management of the OOM-Killer process on SUSE Linux SLES 10 SP1? Not really.  It's algorithms

2010 IBM System z Technical Conferences, zExpo, Technical University

2010-01-25 Thread Pamela Christina (a rainy day in Endicott)
Hi everyone, Someone asked on IBM-MAIN about the tech conferences--sorry I should have posted this sooner. My boo-boo. Here are the dates for two upcoming IBM System z Technical Conferences (renamed to Technical University). Here's the link to the events calendar where you can find these

Re: The Naked Mainframe (Forbes Security Article)

2010-01-25 Thread Leslie Turriff
On Monday 25 January 2010 11:25:30 Shockley, Gerard C wrote: Here is an experiment. Go here http://cve.mitre.org/compatible/vulnerability_management.html Click search Enter : s390x You will receive a page asking you to check spelling. Try zlinux also. Then enter : windows Any

Max # 3390s

2010-01-25 Thread Lee Stewart
Hi all... We're working with a customer that someone has suggested to them that as we move their Oracle d/b from brand x to Linux on z, that we also move the actual d/b from their old SAN box(es) to mainframe disk (3390 images). The catch is that the d/b is about 8TB, and to my rough math that

Re: Max # 3390s

2010-01-25 Thread Mark Post
On 1/25/2010 at 05:53 PM, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: The catch is that the d/b is about 8TB, and to my rough math that seems like 1100-1200 3390 mod 9s. Does Linux even support that many DASD devices? Does LVM? I can't say for sure, but I can pretty much

Re: Max # 3390s

2010-01-25 Thread Rodger Donaldson
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 03:53:41PM -0700, Lee Stewart wrote: Hi all... We're working with a customer that someone has suggested to them that as we move their Oracle d/b from brand x to Linux on z, that we also move the actual d/b from their old SAN box(es) to mainframe disk (3390 images).

Re: Max # 3390s

2010-01-25 Thread Patrick Spinler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 or about 150 mod 54s, if I calculate right. That's still a very large number, but much more manageable. That being said, it's possible that a direct SAN connection would be faster - at least test it and see for your application. Regarding the max

Re: Max # 3390s

2010-01-25 Thread Rich Smrcina
The device drivers manual tells all, but I think the number is somewhere north of 250,000 dasd devices. On 01/25/2010 04:53 PM, Lee Stewart wrote: Hi all... We're working with a customer that someone has suggested to them that as we move their Oracle d/b from brand x to Linux on z, that we also

Re: Max # 3390s

2010-01-25 Thread Mark Post
On 1/25/2010 at 05:53 PM, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: The catch is that the d/b is about 8TB, and to my rough math that seems like 1100-1200 3390 mod 9s. Does Linux even support that many DASD devices? Does LVM? Now that I think about it some more, I'm pretty sure

Re: Max # 3390s

2010-01-25 Thread Marcy Cortes
First, give up on mod 9's and do 54's for that stuff :) Our biggest is about 5TB. It's about 110 mod 54's. It's divided into 6 file systems on 6 different volume groups. (Not a DB, but just files). We did adjust the boot time interval of fsck so that all 6 don't get fsck'd on the same

Re: 2010 IBM System z Technical Conferences, zExpo, Technical University

2010-01-25 Thread Pamela Christina (It has stopped raining)
| Fixed typo. | Answers to some of the questions that were asked. | | Renaming: as I understand it, many of the conferences are renamed | to Technical University. | | Registration: z Boston TU is not open for enrollment yet so I don't | know the registration fee. Sorry. |

Re: Max # 3390s

2010-01-25 Thread Marcy Cortes
Wow. That's way too many :) Course 64K should be enough for anybody. I hope we have bigger disk sizes before we need 250,000. I'd think you'd have a 64K limit under z/VM. That's still too many :) Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the

Re: Max # 3390s

2010-01-25 Thread Lee Stewart
Thanks to all That's enough to sway the sales guys...And alas, we only have mod 9s to work with. If we had mod 54s, I'd consider it... But there is the SAN space Thanks, Lee Marcy Cortes wrote: First, give up on mod 9's and do 54's for that stuff :) Our biggest is about 5TB.

Re: Max # 3390s

2010-01-25 Thread Mauro Souza
Wow... what a amazing high number of dasds... Makes me crazy... Some time ago I've seen a box with 400GB storage in 3390-3, and each dasd was divided in 3. Linux loaded them all, but take some 30 minutes to boot. But 8TB is a whole different figure... I guess your boot would take half a day... If