SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
Hi All, We want to move our Linux environment into an SSI cluster. We have local resources that I need to get rid of in order for guests to use LGR. The most obvious are the CMS minidisks (190, 19E). Most commands in the PROFILE EXEC are CP commands so these can be moved into the directory.

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
You can still use CMS to run swapgen. When you IPL Linux, CMS is no longer there. On 01/22/2016 03:39 PM, van Sleeuwen, Berry wrote: Hi All, We want to move our Linux environment into an SSI cluster. We have local resources that I need to get rid of in order for guests to use LGR. The most

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
Regarding the last part of your message, zPro has no restrictions on directory entry contents. What ever is in the directory is replicated to the destination server. On 01/22/2016 03:39 PM, van Sleeuwen, Berry wrote: Hi All, We want to move our Linux environment into an SSI cluster. We have

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 01/22/2016 at 10:10 GMT, "van Sleeuwen, Berry" wrote: > So the question is what would be the best way to configure the new setup. > Either remove CMS dependency altogether or detach the disks after we don't need > CMS anymore (in the PROFILE EXEC or after

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 01/22/2016 at 10:29 GMT, Marcy Cortes wrote: > We do other necessary stuff from CMS. Mainly checking of where we are and > writing various parms that a linux boot script uses to configure IP, hostname, > etc. I am wondering if people are looking at

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
"best" is also a point of view (or a religion perhaps). I was raised with CMS so I do like CMS a lot. The CP commands in the directory remove a lot of the need for executing command within a PROFILE EXEC. So far I have dismissed this configuration because I am (too much?) accustomed to CMS.

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
I know, just as CMS is no longer available after we IPL a VSE guest. But as long as the CMS disks are linked in the guest that will prevent LGR. Granted, we might build a shared CMS for our Linux guests but I don't like a second, separate CMS. So the question is what would be the best way to

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
Thanks. It's nice to see what you do within CMS. We currently have some guests that test a shared minidisk in an CSE environment to see if they are already started. Obviously that has to be changed in an SSI configuration. Actually, when searching for what I should/could do I already copied

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
As Dennis mentioned, do the detach. I do that as well. On 01/22/2016 04:08 PM, van Sleeuwen, Berry wrote: I know, just as CMS is no longer available after we IPL a VSE guest. But as long as the CMS disks are linked in the guest that will prevent LGR. Granted, we might build a shared CMS for

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
Thanks, That's indeed helpful. In the past we tested a provisioning tool that couldn't handle our CMS setup (both Linux PROFILE EXEC and AUTOLOG1 PROFILE EXEC) so I will take such items into account when redesigning our environment. We currently don't use any tools other than our own processes

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
/etc/init.d/boot.local has this in it for the swap disks (if you are RH rather than SUSE that might be a different file) : /sbin/mkswap /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.ff00-part1 /sbin/mkswap /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.ff01-part1 /sbin/mkswap /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.ff02-part1 /sbin/mkswap

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
You're welcome. Our prod servers can be brought up in any of 3 data centers. And they could come up different host names and IPs for testing recovery scenarios. Our dev/test servers can come up in 2 data centers. It's just easier to have one spot in CMS to carry this info. Liberally stolen

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
Alan wrote: >I am wondering if people are looking at using persistent DHCP for this. To >make it work you have to use layer 2 VSWITCHes and you have to manage >MACIDs on the NICDEFs. Your automation tools have to "manufacture" a new >MACID for every new NICDEF and put it there or on COMMAND

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread Eduardo Oliveira
Hi, Once SSI is up and running you can do LGR using IBM Wave by dragging a server from one node and dropping it to another node of the same SSI cluster, all graphically. You can get the pre-requisites for IBM Wave from the latest Redbook available publicly. A simple search on IBM Wave

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
What Dennis said. Running DHCP on servers may even be prohibited by security policy. I haven't checked, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Saturday, 01/23/2016 at 01:13 GMT, "O'Brien, Dennis L" wrote: > Like Marcy said, I don't see anything to gain by involving the DHCP people. > Managing MACID's is no less complicated than managing IP addresses. Managing MACIDs is actually way *less*

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
>Managing MACIDs is actually way *less* complicated than IPs since you >don't have to worry about global uniqueness or subnet boundaries. The network people worry about global uniqueness and subnet boundaries, and they give us an IP address range to use. We have to make sure that the guest

Re: SSI guest best practice

2016-01-22 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Our setup is similar to Marcy's. Each SSI cluster has a master list of guest userids and IP addresses in a CMS file. Each entry contains production and DR test IP addresses. We used to have separate addresses for real DR, but those are now the same as production. The IP addresses are