Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-20 Thread Post, Mark K
SuSE vs RedHat arguments? Management here is getting serious about a support contract for linux on the mainframe, and asked me to poll reasons why people/organizations may have chosen one distro over the other on s/390 (specifically RedHat vs SuSE). In the archives most of the arguments in favor

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Michael Lambert
At this point the differences between the two distributions are fairly negligable. One very important point to consider is Red Hat's reluctance to incorporate the timer patch into their kernel. While exchanging mail with a Red Hat saleman, I expressed concern about this ascpect of RH's offerings.

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
John Cassidy wrote: Another (not unimportant) point - Nuernberg is not very far from Stuttgart which is not very far from IBM From the peanut gallery: Afaik, redhat.de Hat is in Stuttgart...

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread James Melin
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Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Jim Sibley
At this point the differences between the two distributions are fairly negligable. Not true. The lastest RH has on the street is the 2.4.9 kernel in RH7.1 and RH7.2. SuSE has had 2.4.19 out for almost a year. There are major improvements in scaling between 2.4.9 and 2.4.19. So RedHat seems to be

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Guillaume Morin
Disclaimer: I am a Debian guy so this is *really* not an holy war for me. Dans un message du 19 Sep ` 10:05, Jim Sibley icrivait : At this point the differences between the two distributions are fairly negligable. Not true. The lastest RH has on the street is the 2.4.9 kernel in RH7.1 and

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Chris Cox
Guillaume Morin wrote: [ on the discussion about RH vs. SuSE ] ... stuff snipped... Come on :) , it is trivial to get one package with the utils for something as common... I really have no preference for any for Redhat or SuSE, but you're being a bit unfair. Guillaume. Actually, not unfair at

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Guillaume Morin
Dans un message du 19 Sep ` 12:40, Chris Cox icrivait : Come on :) , it is trivial to get one package with the utils for something as common... I really have no preference for any for Redhat or SuSE, but you're being a bit unfair. Actually, not unfair at all. Well, I was refering to the

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Jim Sibley
Come on :) , it is trivial to get one package with the utils for something as common... I really have no preference for any for Redhat or SuSE, but you're being a bit unfair. What does fair had to do with it? If I have to pay a chunk of money to get a distribution, I don't expect to have to

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 12:40:16PM -0500, Chris Cox wrote: Actually, not unfair at all. Though as a Debian person you are quite used to doing many things on your own outside of support, corporate customers are not likely to install packages outside of the vendor's support. Actually it is

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Chris Cox
Guillaume Morin wrote: ... You like Debian then :-) Guillaume. Debian is my preferred choice on platforms not supported (well) by RH and SuSE (e.g. Alpha).

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Chris Cox
Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 12:40:16PM -0500, Chris Cox wrote: Actually, not unfair at all. Though as a Debian person you are quite used to doing many things on your own outside of support, corporate customers are not likely to install packages outside of the vendor's support.

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread John Cassidy
PROTECTED] HTTP : www.jdcassidy.net -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments? John Cassidy wrote: Another (not unimportant

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 02:56:59PM -0500, Chris Cox wrote: Matt Zimmerman wrote: Actually it is quite the opposite. I tend to find everything that I need already provided and supported by Debian and need to install very little additional software. Good for you. My experience is that

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread David Boyes
Good for you. My experience is that Debian is a bit out of date. I'm guessing your running Debian unstable (?). That's your choice. Just somewhat of a moving target. Debian releases infrequently. Depending on your business and system practices, this can be an advantage or a

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-19 Thread Chris Cox
Matt Zimmerman wrote: .. I'd be curious to hear what you found to be missing from Debian 3.0. Most of the complaints I hear tend to boil down to version numbers are smaller, or misunderstandings about backported security fixes (which actually boils down to the same issue of version numbers).

Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-18 Thread Daniel Jarboe
Management here is getting serious about a support contract for linux on the mainframe, and asked me to poll reasons why people/organizations may have chosen one distro over the other on s/390 (specifically RedHat vs SuSE). In the archives most of the arguments in favor of redhat revolve around:

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-18 Thread John Cassidy
: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments? Management here is getting serious about a support contract for linux on the mainframe, and asked me to poll reasons why people/organizations may have chosen one distro over the other on s/390

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-18 Thread Ryan Ware
Message- From: John Cassidy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 7:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments? Hello, From my experience with a customer in Luxembourg, Suse were quite prompt in answering E-Mail requests

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-18 Thread Wilson, Eric
\ /( )\ ^^-^^ -Original Message- From: John Cassidy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 7:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments? Hello, From my experience with a customer in Luxembourg, Suse were quite prompt in answering E-Mail requests

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-18 Thread John Cassidy
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments? My two cents: At this point the differences between the two distributions are fairly negligable. It seems that in the beginning, SuSE had the distinct advantage. but now it just seems like a leap frog of versions and levels. SuSE seems