Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-24 Thread Rick Troth
I share DASD all the time. Chris Little put it well: The issue that goes beyond this is that Linux doesn't understand shared devices. It can't synchronize writes at the OS level. ... Right. Last I checked, the kernel cached blocks of data for block devices (all disk, shared or not!)

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-23 Thread Bill Munson
I knew you were joking. I was goof ing on your joking. ;) -Original Message- From: David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 19, 2005 3:40 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs) I know - I was just joking - Bill Munson wrote

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-20 Thread David Boyes
OpenGFS is known to work as well (at least on the 31bit releases). You could ask IBM if they have any plans to bring GPFS or SAN FS to linux on zSeries. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 6/18/05, mainframe_s390 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DEDICATE 1000 1000 ===Shared DASD between SLES9A and SLES9B You have a very big gun in your hands and it is pointing towards your foot. This gives both sides simultaneous R/W access to the disk. I don't think you want to do this. You have

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-19 Thread Bill Munson
: David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 17, 2005 1:57 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs) OK it's Friday I have to ask you Gordon: What's an IBM SE? David Wolfe, Gordon W wrote: In certain circumstances, sharing a limited amount

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-19 Thread David Kreuter
maintenance. munson -Original Message- From: David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 17, 2005 1:57 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs) OK it's Friday I have to ask you Gordon: What's an IBM SE? David Wolfe, Gordon W wrote

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-18 Thread mainframe_s390
Hi,all Thank you for many replies. I want to use shared DASD(Address:1000 VOLSER:VL1000) for file-system. (Not raw device for Oracle RAC) I defined the below definition to System Config file. USER_VOLUME_LIST VL1000 RDEVICE 1000 TYPE DASD SHARED YES. I defined the below definition to USER

DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread mainframe_s390
Hi,all I'm very in troubled. Please teach me. I want to use shared DASD. The DASD(ADDRESS:1000) is used by two SLES9s. SLES9s are running on different z/VMs. (One SLES9-A is running on z/VM-A, the other SLES9-B is running on z/VM-B.) Firstly, can I do above scenario? Thank you - K.M.

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Post, Mark K
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:36 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs) Hi,all I'm very in troubled. Please teach me. I want to use shared DASD. The DASD(ADDRESS:1000) is used by two SLES9s. SLES9s are running on different z/VMs. (One SLES9

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 6/17/05, Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When DASD is shared between LPARs it should be defined as SHARED in the system configuration file. This disables MDC for the device, and ensures you do not cache data that is written elsewhere. If you want to share minidisks among z/VM systems you

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Uriel Carrasquilla
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Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Little, Chris
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Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
: Friday, June 17, 2005 8:40 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs) yes you can, no you shouldn't. how are you going to ensure the integrity of your data if two SLES zLinux are going after the same data? even if you

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Little, Chris
- From: Wolfe, Gordon W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 11:03 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs) In certain circumstances, sharing a limited amount of dasd read-write among LPARs is possible using hardware

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 6/17/05, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When DASD is shared between LPARs it should be defined as SHARED in the system configuration file. This disables MDC for the device, and ensures you do not cache data that is written elsewhere. It's a possibe performance penalty to lose

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread David Kreuter
-- From: Uriel Carrasquilla Reply To: Linux on 390 Port Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 8:40 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject:Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs) yes you can, no you shouldn't. how are you going to ensure the integrity

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Uriel Carrasquilla
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Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Little, Chris
system engineer? -Original Message- From: David Kreuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 12:57 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs) OK it's Friday I have to ask you Gordon: What's an IBM SE? David Wolfe

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Dennis Wicks
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Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Davis, Larry
: Friday, June 17, 2005 14:18 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs) An SE is the software equivalent of a CE. SE = Systems Engineer. I think they are nearly extinct now as I haven't had a verifiable sighting of one since 1984. They used

Re: DASD shared between SLES9s.(running on different z/VMs)

2005-06-17 Thread Tim Pepper
You could ask IBM if they have any plans to bring GPFS or SAN FS to linux on zSeries. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit