Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-21 Thread Rick Troth
I had said, "Once it's up, Linux is Linux". Robert noted: >> Right up until you want to install some piece of software. >> Unless you have the source, then linux is x86, or linux is arm, >> or linux is z. >> >> This is the main issue we ran into in getting acceptance of >> Linux on z here, and

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-21 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 03/21/2016 at 08:19 GMT, Mike Hammock wrote: > Actually I think Alan means the RD program, not RDz (athough RDz is a nice > tool also.) What is now RDT(Rational Develop and Test) used to be made > vailable under the RDz banner, but it is a separate product now.

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-21 Thread Mike Hammock
ST.EDU Subject: Re: How many shops... ? On Friday, 03/18/2016 at 01:18 GMT, "Nix, Robert P." <nix.rob...@mayo.edu> wrote: > There needs to be wider acceptance within the software vendor community > for Linux on z (and / or Linux on ARM, Linux on PPC, ?, Linux on thing

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-21 Thread Ed Long
Long On Mon, 3/21/16, Alan Altmark <alan_altm...@us.ibm.com> wrote: Subject: Re: How many shops... ? To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Monday, March 21, 2016, 11:32 AM On Friday, 03/18/2016 at 01:18 GMT, "Nix, Robert P." <

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-21 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/18/2016 at 01:18 GMT, "Nix, Robert P." wrote: > There needs to be wider acceptance within the software vendor community > for Linux on z (and / or Linux on ARM, Linux on PPC, ?, Linux on things > beyond x86). The problem is that the vendors can go to HP, or

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-20 Thread Dave Jones
t; wrote: On 03/14/2016 11:29 AM, Ambros, Thomas wrote: To start to contest the perception that Linux on system Z is a 'one-off', where would one find out for themselves roughly how many shops in North America are running production implementations of Linux on system Z and what proportion of al

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-19 Thread James Huckert
LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: How many shops... ? ³Once it¹s up, linux is linux²Š Right up until you want to install some piece of software. Unless you have the source, then linux is x86, or linux is arm, or linux is z. This is the main issue we ran into in getting acceptance of Linux

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-19 Thread Nix, Robert P.
Rockhopper and Emperor go the way of zBX and slowly fade into >obscurity? > >Regards, >James Huckert > >-Original Message- >From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of >Nix, Robert P. >Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:16 AM >To: LINUX-390@VM.MARI

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-19 Thread Rick Troth
On 03/14/2016 11:29 AM, Ambros, Thomas wrote: > To start to contest the perception that Linux on system Z is a 'one-off', > where would one find out for themselves roughly how many shops in North > America are running production implementations of Linux on system Z and what > propo

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-19 Thread Nix, Robert P.
: >> To start to contest the perception that Linux on system Z is a >>'one-off', where would one find out for themselves roughly how many >>shops in North America are running production implementations of Linux >>on system Z and what proportion of all zSeries sites that might be?

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-19 Thread Scott Rohling
On 3/17/16, 6:50 PM, "Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Rick Troth" > <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU on behalf of r...@casita.net> wrote: > > >On 03/14/2016 11:29 AM, Ambros, Thomas wrote: > >> To start to contest the perception that Linux on system Z is a > >>

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-18 Thread WF Konynenberg
Hi, On 03/18/2016 02:16 PM, Nix, Robert P. wrote: ³Once it¹s up, linux is linux²Š Right up until you want to install some piece of software. Unless you have the source, then linux is x86, or linux is arm, or linux is z. This is the main issue we ran into in getting acceptance of Linux on z

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-18 Thread Paul Dembry
>and aren¹t willing to invest in a Z system at all simply to test their product. Hercules. > * ARM (your smart phone), not necessarily Android RaspberryPi > * PPC (IBM RS/6000 or even older Apple servers) qemu runs 32 bit Debian Regards, Paul

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-14 Thread Harley Linker
z/VM and roughly 25 Linux on System z servers. We don't have any IFL-only CEC's. Harley -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 11:19 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: How many shops

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-14 Thread Kurt Acker
this helps, Kurt Acker Cell: 607-348-8197 IBM Smarter Planet, Smarter Data Centers Virtualization and Enterprise System Management Technologies From: "Ambros, Thomas" <thomas_amb...@keybank.com> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 03/14/2016 11:44 AM Subject: How many

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-14 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 3/14/2016 at 12:19 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > I doubt very much that that information is publicly available anywhere. > Actual, hard numbers of this sort are considered proprietary marketing > information by IBM, think. And not only by IBM. SUSE and Red Hat think

Re: How many shops... ?

2016-03-14 Thread Dave Jones
ould think it'd be reasonably close). To start to contest the perception that Linux on system Z is a 'one-off', where would one find out for themselves roughly how many shops in North America are running production implementations of Linux on system Z and what proportion of all zSeries sites

How many shops... ?

2016-03-14 Thread Ambros, Thomas
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