David Boyes wrote:
No, I understood what he meant. I was expressing a sincere dislike for
diluting the discussion here with Yet Another Place to check for
things that interest me.
Doing the discussion using the discussion tools in Mediawiki is a
significant step backward in function in that I ha
Stephen Frazier wrote:
Martha McConaghy wrote:
Whether or not you are willing to trust the information provided on
the wiki
is totally up to each individual. Just because some wiki's are full
of crap
isn't really a good reason not to try this one.
Extensive history suggests that Wikis ser
Martha McConaghy wrote:
Wow..I don't really know how this discussion got so far off-base.
For several years now, there has been a lot of discussion in the z/VM
community about the need to have a place to collect the "wisdom of the
elders", i.e. the knowledge and experience of those of us who
My vote on this topic is that the real time, day to day discussions stay
here on the lists (VM and zLinux). I like the fact that the information
comes to me, via e-mail, with no effort on my part.
I think a proper role for the Linux Wiki would be to take on part of the
functionally of the linuxvm
No, I understood what he meant. I was expressing a sincere dislike for
diluting the discussion here with Yet Another Place to check for
things that interest me.
Doing the discussion using the discussion tools in Mediawiki is a
significant step backward in function in that I have to use their
John Summerfield wrote:
David, Jack was referring to the discussion of the wiki itself when he
was talking about discussion on the wiki.
That's correct, and that's all I was saying.
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Jack J. Woehr# «'I know what "it" means well enough, when I find
http://www.well.com/~jax # a th
Mark Post wrote:
On 9/23/2009 at 1:36 AM, "Douglas M. Wooster" wrote:
-snip-
I'm sure one could use a Wiki as a discussion
forum, but it really seems better suited to developing, storing, and
searching reference material.
I'm not sure how this meme got started, but nobody is advocating movi
Mark Post wrote:
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBM-Main
The idea of having a Wiki (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wiki) for mainframe
Linux and z/VM has been floating around for some time. It was thought that having a Wiki
with a fair amount of content already in it would help
Mark Post wrote:
There are a few rules, for lack of a better term, that will apply to the Wiki,
none of them particularly onerous:
1. Although technically not required, we would prefer that anyone
contributing to the wiki create an account before doing so.
You should insist on this.
I'v
>>> On 9/23/2009 at 9:51 AM, David Boyes wrote:
-snip-
> I like the idea of user created documentation, but maybe there's a way to
> notify this list with a summary of updates every so often. That would
> ameliorate some of my crankyness.
The RecentChanges page has an RSS feed button on it.
>>> On 9/23/2009 at 1:36 AM, "Douglas M. Wooster" wrote:
-snip-
> I'm sure one could use a Wiki as a discussion
> forum, but it really seems better suited to developing, storing, and
> searching reference material.
I'm not sure how this meme got started, but nobody is advocating moving general
Wow..I don't really know how this discussion got so far off-base.
For several years now, there has been a lot of discussion in the z/VM
community about the need to have a place to collect the "wisdom of the
elders", i.e. the knowledge and experience of those of us who have been
doing this a lo
> for anything new one has to go looking.
>
> In contrast, everything on this list arrives in my inbox. I see
> everything, choose what to read, respond where I feel the urge. If it
> was a wiki, I'd be battling to keep up, I'd probably just fall away.
General rant aside, I think that's the point
John Summerfield wrote:
Jack Woehr wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
Who should, sensibly, assume that this site speaks for any part of the
Linux community?
Well, the Linux on z/VM community. It needs a wiki. It's a good idea.
It's a shame you quoted me without context.
Wasn't the intent, Jo
Jack Woehr wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
Who should, sensibly, assume that this site speaks for any part of the
Linux community?
Well, the Linux on z/VM community. It needs a wiki. It's a good idea.
It's a shame you quoted me without context.
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John
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From: Linux on 390 Port [linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of John Summerfield
[deb...@herakles.homelinux.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 04:16
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Linux and z/VM Wiki
J
I second that rant. Especially the push vs. pull. I subscribe to
several mailing lists, and their contents all appear in one place -
my mailbox. There's far more chance that I'll have a few minutes to
read something in my mailbox than that I'll keep a checklist of wikis
to go cycle through. I'm
John Summerfield wrote:
Who should, sensibly, assume that this site speaks for any part of the
Linux community?
Well, the Linux on z/VM community. It needs a wiki. It's a good idea.
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http://www.well.com/~jax # a thin
Jack Woehr wrote:
David Boyes wrote:
3. Redirect discussion of what should be on the Wiki to discussion
pages of the Wiki itself!!!
* Like, uh, that's what Wikis are for :)
What's wrong with discussing it here,
What's wrong with keeping all the source files in your compu
David Boyes wrote:
3. Redirect discussion of what should be on the Wiki to discussion
pages of the Wiki itself!!!
* Like, uh, that's what Wikis are for :)
What's wrong with discussing it here,
What's wrong with keeping all the source files in your computer program
o
>3. Redirect discussion of what should be on the Wiki to discussion
> pages of the Wiki itself!!!
> * Like, uh, that's what Wikis are for :)
Ugh. Please, no.
Not anything personal, but:
:rant.
Pet peeve -- scattering the discussion all over the place and changing it from
a
http://wiki.linuxvm.org/wiki/Main_Page
Regards
Paul
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Agblad
Tore
Sent: 22 September 2009 10:02
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Linux and z/VM Wiki
I seem to have lost that link to the
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From: Linux on 390 Port [linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post
[mp...@novell.com]
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 21:03
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Linux and z/VM Wiki
>
On Mon September 21 2009, Mark Post >
wrote:
> >>> On 9/16/2009 at 9:46 PM, "Douglas M. Wooster"
> >>> wrote:
> >
> > Cool idea, Mark.
> > If I had some direct experience with Linux on z, I'd write
> > something.
> >
> > I suggest that some good topics would be related to network
> > configuratio
Mark Post wrote:
On 9/21/2009 at 2:36 PM, Jack Woehr wrote:
-snip-
3. Redirect discussion of what should be on the Wiki to discussion
pages of the Wiki itself!!!
* Like, uh, that's what Wikis are for :)
Making that happen is the end goal. The reality of
>>> On 9/21/2009 at 2:36 PM, Jack Woehr wrote:
-snip-
>3. Redirect discussion of what should be on the Wiki to discussion
> pages of the Wiki itself!!!
> * Like, uh, that's what Wikis are for :)
Making that happen is the end goal. The reality of the moment is that we need
Mark Post wrote:
If you think those would be good topics, then you could add them to the list of
"starter topics" on the main page. Just because someone (you in this case)
doesn't have enough background to write articles, doesn't mean they can't contribute by
pointing out what information wou
>>> On 9/16/2009 at 9:46 PM, "Douglas M. Wooster" wrote:
> Cool idea, Mark.
> If I had some direct experience with Linux on z, I'd write something.
>
> I suggest that some good topics would be related to network
> configuration and boot setup. Those look like the areas that are
> most differen
Nice work Mark! Will spend some time there.
Gerard
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:21 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Linux and z/VM Wiki
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM
Cool idea, Mark.
If I had some direct experience with Linux on z, I'd write something.
I suggest that some good topics would be related to network
configuration and boot setup. Those look like the areas that are
most different between Linux on z and Linux on other platforms.
Douglas Wooster
On
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBM-Main
The idea of having a Wiki (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wiki) for
mainframe Linux and z/VM has been floating around for some time. It was
thought that having a Wiki with a fair amount of content already in it would
help it reach a "criti
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