Re: Memory use question

2010-06-29 Thread Mrohs, Ray
ry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:24 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Memory use question > > Hi > > Well this is not something I would do in my shop. Not having swap > available for Linux is just asking for trouble. One reason is that yo

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-28 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
-4191 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mrohs, Ray Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:21 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Memory use question This led me into an interesting area. I just set a couple of our test servers to run without swap

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2010-06-28 Thread Mrohs, Ray
tes > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:34 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Memory use question > > So with swappiness higher, Linux is making decsions to > preemptively move something from memory to vdisk. Well, your > vdisk is in VM's pageable memory too.

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2010-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
y by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:44 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Memory u

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2010-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
" -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mrohs, Ray Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:53 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Memory use question > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port

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2010-06-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mrohs, Ray Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:53 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Memory use question

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2010-06-24 Thread Mrohs, Ray
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On > Behalf Of Marcy Cortes > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:45 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Memory use question > > Rob mentioned the vm.swappiness setting an

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2010-06-24 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Richard Gasiorowski wrote: > Rob has a good point in resource usage and with GC it definitely is the > lesser of two evils.  I have never had an instance where after determining > the GC Collector settings performance and % utilization suffered > negatively.  One

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2010-06-24 Thread Richard Gasiorowski
-390@vm.marist.edu Date: 06/24/2010 04:45 AM Subject: Re: Memory use question On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Rodger Donaldson wrote: > Well, bearing in mind both the Sun and IBM JVMs default to memory > settings that both IBM and Sun say are crap for app servers (e.g. > neither using

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2010-06-24 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Rodger Donaldson wrote: > Well, bearing in mind both the Sun and IBM JVMs default to memory > settings that both IBM and Sun say are crap for app servers (e.g. > neither using their 1.4 or later GC algorithms by default), I'm not sure > I'd place too much stock in

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2010-06-24 Thread Rodger Donaldson
Rob van der Heij wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Mrohs, Ray wrote: Rob, Heap size is set to 500M/1000M. I've read recommendations to make default/max the same number, but I would just be guessing at a value. It has grow close to 800M at least once, but it always falls back to around

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2010-06-23 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Mrohs, Ray wrote: > Rob, > > Heap size is set to 500M/1000M. I've read recommendations to make default/max > the same number, but I would just be guessing at a value. It has grow close > to 800M at least once, but it always falls back to around the default size

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2010-06-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
M To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Memory use question Marcy, thanks for the pointers. I verified that the thread pool default/max numbers are the same, and the async I/O box remains unchecked. The swap space used stays at 0 for a day or two, but slowly climbs. There are a

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2010-06-23 Thread Mrohs, Ray
Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On > Behalf Of Rob van der Heij > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:06 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Memory use question > > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Mrohs, Ray >

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2010-06-23 Thread Mrohs, Ray
sday, June 23, 2010 11:12 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Memory use question > > > It's called a native memory leak. > Lots of things can cause it. > Thread pools, asynci i/o are two areas where this can happen. > See http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docvi

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2010-06-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
Also: "so maybe there is incremental swap space saturation over time?" Use your perf tool and plot out the last 30 days of swap size to see if it looks like a leak. Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to rec

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
0@vm.marist.edu Subject: [LINUX-390] Memory use question Hi, I am experimentally minimizing the footprint of a SLES10 WebSphere 7 instance and seeing the following. Swap is to v-disk. top: Tasks: 120 total, 3 running, 117 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 5.3%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 9

Re: Memory use question

2010-06-23 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Mrohs, Ray wrote: > The cache number looks interesting because it remains large while swap space > is being used up. This particular > instance has been up for 30+ days, so maybe there is incremental swap space > saturation over time? Swappiness setting makes L

Memory use question

2010-06-23 Thread Mrohs, Ray
Hi, I am experimentally minimizing the footprint of a SLES10 WebSphere 7 instance and seeing the following. Swap is to v-disk. top: Tasks: 120 total, 3 running, 117 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 5.3%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 94.0%id, 0.3%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2050776k