Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-24 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
23.05.2007 19:40:26 Mark Post wrote: Hi Mark. What features do you mean? I always think that z/os db2 everytime far behind pc/db2. Now, if the version of DB2 that is available for Linux would only be upgraded to have all the features and functionality of the z/OS version, it would be much

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-24 Thread Mark Post
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 6:47 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sergey Korzhevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 23.05.2007 19:40:26 Mark Post wrote: Hi Mark. What features do you mean? I always think that z/os db2 everytime far behind pc/db2. It's not me that wants them, it's the customers

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-24 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 9:49 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: OK - a really stupid question. snip It's not me that wants them, it's the customers and IBM employees

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-24 Thread David Stuart
I had an instructor once who used to insist that the only stupid question is the one that does not get asked. Dave Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/22/2007 7:36 AM Hi, John. No such thing as a stupid

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:49 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] OK - a really stupid question. On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 6:47 AM, in message

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-24 Thread Frank Swarbrick
On 5/24/2007 at 9:14 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 9:49 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: OK - a really

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-24 Thread Tom Duerbusch
There are 3 flavors of DB2 nowadays DB2 for VM and VSE DB2/UDB (all ascii platforms) DB2/ for z/OS All DB2/UDBs have the same code base. Some hardware differences, but have the same features. DB2 for z/OS has a large subset of DB2/UDB, PLUS unique things for the big MVS guys. There use to

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread Mark Post
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 10:21 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know this will be a stupid question. But I will ask anyway because I have no fear (or was that no sense?). A zAAP engine is used by z/OS to run Java code. The only reason for such an

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 05/22/2007 at 09:21 EST, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know this will be a stupid question. But I will ask anyway because I have no fear (or was that no sense?). A zAAP engine is used by z/OS to run Java code. The only reason for such an engine was because of the CPU

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread James Melin
Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 05/23/2007 11:40:26 AM: On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 10:21 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know this will be a stupid question. But I will ask anyway because I have no fear (or was that no

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread Mark Post
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 3:09 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 05/23/2007 11:40:26 AM: -snip- I personally feel it would be cost effective over the life of a z/series processor to toss a couple zAAPS into

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:43 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: OK - a really stupid question. On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 3:09 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread Mark Post
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 3:49 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- I think that what he is saying is that it would be cheaper to use a zAAP for Java support on z/Linux and z/VM than to get another IFL and put it into the pool when all it is really

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: OK - a really stupid question. On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 3:49 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED] om, McKown

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread James Melin
cc 05/23/2007 02:42 PM Subject Re: OK - a really

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread Richards.Bob
question. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: OK - a really stupid question. On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 3:49 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richards.Bob Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] OK - a really stupid question. Here is another consideration for this discussion: Until

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread Richards.Bob
-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: OK - a really stupid question. I guess I missed reading about zNALC. Does it also apply to z/VM? I.E. can I put my traditional VM (not LINUX NOT IFL) on 1 engine on my 54-way and pay for 1 engine instead of all of them? Marcy Cortes This message may contain

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-23 Thread Marcy Cortes
PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] OK - a really stupid question. No, only z/OS-based software is eligible. Plus apps like WAS, SAP, Seibel, etc. are necessary to get the zNALC pricing approval. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL

OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-22 Thread McKown, John
Yes, I know this will be a stupid question. But I will ask anyway because I have no fear (or was that no sense?). A zAAP engine is used by z/OS to run Java code. The only reason for such an engine was because of the CPU demands of Java and the fact that adding the required CPU power using a

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-22 Thread Marian Gasparovic
John, yes you are correct. zAAPs and zIIPs are ment to lower TCO of new workload on z/OS. For Linux you have IFL which is MUCH cheaper than regular CP. And what is important, it is alway full speed engine regardless of speed of your subcapacity CPs. (same applies to zIIP and zAAP). And if they

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-22 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, John. No such thing as a stupid question, imhostupid answers, maybe;-) McKown, John wrote: Yes, I know this will be a stupid question. But I will ask anyway because I have no fear (or was that no sense?). A zAAP engine is used by z/OS to run Java code. The only reason for such an

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-22 Thread RPN01
On 5/22/07 9:36 AM, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it might be nice if Linux, running on an IFL, could dispatch a Java process on a zAAP, it is not a requirement. I would think the performance gain might be worthwhile, especially if the Linux guest was running Websphere.

Re: OK - a really stupid question.

2007-05-22 Thread Bruce . Lightsey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject OK - a really stupid question. 05/22/2007 09:21 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port