On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 11:55:16AM -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
My experience has been that cross-compiling is risky, at best. While
working to port SAPDB, one of the other people helping was doing
cross-compiles, and getting different results than I was. Setting up a
cross-compile
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 11:55:16AM -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
My experience has been that cross-compiling is risky, at best. While
working to port SAPDB, one of the other people helping was doing
cross-compiles, and getting different
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, John Summerfield wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Post, Mark K wrote:
In this case, staying current=maintenance=support=$
They can make their money selling code also, it's just harder because it is
freely redistributable.
Is it freely-redistributable?
Let's
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, John Summerfield wrote:
I tracked down a copy of the licence. The English is a bit confused, and I don't
like the licence, but I think I do see a way of distributing a Linux distro
using YaST.
My interpretation us you can't sell copies YaST, without permission, so if
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, John Summerfield wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Post, Mark K wrote:
In this case, staying current=maintenance=support=$
They can make their money selling code also, it's just harder because i
t is
freely redistributable.
Is it
I don't know how fast FlexES is or how much it costs.
Think in terms of a 2-way 1GHz Intel with one processor enabled for emulation
delivering about
18MIPS, tending to improve slightly with succeeding releases of the product.
--
Phil Payne
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On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 04:18:56PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Sounds fishy to me. But anyway, there are slackware-based distoros,
RH-based distros, debian-based distros, but there are no (3rd-party)
SuSE-based distros . And remember linux distros come in every posible
shape and size.
So I
I've been debating with myself whether I want to get a package, or download a package.
This and other comments lead me to believe I'm better off staying away from SuSE. I
had a discussion with my boss a few days ago about the cost of Linux. If you get VM,
which I can see a real value in,
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I've been debating with myself whether I want to get a package, or download a package.
This and other comments lead me to believe I'm better off staying away from SuSE. I
had
without
buying support. It seemed kind of contradictory.
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I've been debating with myself whether I want to get a package
: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:09 AM
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I've been debating with myself whether I want to get a package, or download
a package. This and other comments lead me to believe I'm better off
staying away from SuSE. I had a discussion with my
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Post, Mark K wrote:
In this case, staying current=maintenance=support=$
They can make their money selling code also, it's just harder because it is
freely redistributable.
Is it freely-redistributable?
Let's look at the updates to the current distro in both RH and SuSE:
of these companies is trying to destroy the GPL.
Mark Post
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Post, Mark K wrote:
In this case
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Post, Mark K wrote:
In this case, staying current=maintenance=support=$
They can make their money selling code also, it's just
harder
took me about a _month_, on a much bigger machine that
this one.)
Mark Post
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Mark,
I guess you're right about getting
.
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Eric,
It depends on how you define current. Red Hat has put some
updates out there for their Linux/390 platforms
I currently have on order a dual Xeon 2.8GHz system with 2GB of RAM. Guess
why.
Mark Post
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Just a weird thought from
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 10:55:40AM -0500, Post, Mark K wrote:
Eric,
It depends on how you define current. Red Hat has put some updates out
there for their Linux/390 platforms, but not as many has they have for their
Intel ones. There was a thread a little while back about the lack of
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Post, Mark K wrote:
Since they do put out the SRPMs (source RPMs), you can download those and
build the binary for installation, but that can be, ummm, a chore, and it
certainly chews up CPU time for packages of any size. (I'm currently in the
process of re-building
them since I
got my copy.
Mark
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On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 10:55:40AM -0500, Post, Mark K wrote:
Eric,
It depends
it as much as possible.
Mark Post
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Post, Mark K wrote:
Since they do put out the SRPMs (source RPMs
: so correct me if I am wrong
LUST
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I currently have on order a dual Xeon 2.8GHz system with 2GB
of RAM. Guess
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On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Post, Mark K wrote:
Since they do put out the SRPMs (source RPMs), you can download those and
build the binary for installation, but that can be, ummm, a chore, and it
certainly chews up CPU time for packages of any size. (I'm
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LUST
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I currently have on order a dual Xeon 2.8GHz
of waiting. ;-))
Leland
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Actually, I may try to get my management at work to get me a hot rod
for
this type of thing. Probably won't go for it, though
Florian La Roche wrote:
Next would then be to look at startup times for OO and how much time
you can save by using the nice prelinking framework that Jakub Jelinek
has put together, including the mainframe arch.
I've tried prelinking OpenOffice on my Intel (AMD, actually) PC: The
startup time
Just a weird thought from a weird person (me). We've had lots of discussion
here about the apparent lack of CPU horsepower on the zSeries compared to
fast Intel box. What about having a super-fast Intel box running something
like Hercules/390 (or FlexES). Run zLinux on the Intel. Do all the
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Post, Mark K wrote:
In this case, staying current=maintenance=support=$
They can make their money selling code also, it's just harder because it is
freely redistributable.
Is it freely-redistributable?
Let's look at the updates to the current distro in both RH
McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave,
Can Systems/C be used for kernel development? Or does Linux still have a
number of gcc dependancies as I've read in the past? Or course, few of us
actually cross compile the kernel itself.
About the only syntax issue Systems/C doesn't support now
P.S., I didn't understand the question about getting Red Hat support without
buying support. It seemed kind of contradictory.
I suppose it depends on the definition of support. For my needs, timely release of
updates where I can get them is enough, and RH provides that kind of support FOC to
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 11:19:03AM -0500, Post, Mark K wrote:
I currently have on order a dual Xeon 2.8GHz system with 2GB of RAM. Guess
why.
You want to play Unreal Tournament with a *REALLY* good frame rate?
Adam
Ralph,
Not quite. Red Hat does put their current GA code on their FTP server.
They haven't been kept as up to date as their x86 RPMs, though. You can
upgrade a SuSE distribution by using the SRPMs they put out for their other
platforms to build the binary RPMs for Linux/390. It's a lot of
Yes to the first.
No to the second. You can get Linux from other FTP sites.
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so correct me if i am wrong
if you want to
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 22:33, Noll, Ralph wrote:
so correct me if i am wrong
if you want to stay current with Linux (either Suse or RedHat)
you are going to have to pay.
if you want to go totally free and do it all yourself
you can go Debian
You can pay someone to do it for you, or you can
so correct me if i am wrong
if you want to stay current with Linux (either Suse or RedHat)
you are going to have to pay.
I can't speak WRT RedHat, but with Suse you have a problem - they don't put
the latest distro on their public ftp, you are reliant on 3rd parties if you
want to download the
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 04:33:54PM -0600, Noll, Ralph wrote:
so correct me if i am wrong
if you want to stay current with Linux (either Suse or RedHat) you are
going to have to pay.
if you want to go totally free and do it all yourself you can go Debian
yes??
no???
You seem to imply
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On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 04:33:54PM -0600, Noll, Ralph wrote:
so correct me if i am wrong
if you want to stay current with Linux (either Suse or RedHat) you are
going to have to pay.
if you want to go totally free and do it all
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so correct me if i am wrong
if you want to stay current with Linux (either Suse or RedHat)
you are going to have to pay.
Yes.
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so correct me if i am wrong
if you want to stay current with Linux (either Suse or RedHat)
you are going to have to pay.
Yes. That's how they pay their bills.
I was under the impression that they pay their bills primarily from the
revenue stream
so correct me if i am wrong
if you want to stay current with Linux (either Suse or RedHat)
you are going to have to pay.
Yes. That's how they pay their bills.
I was under the impression that they pay their bills primarily from the
revenue stream they get for *support* - the GPL
so correct me if i am wrong
if you want to stay current with Linux (either Suse or RedHat)
you are going to have to pay.
Yes. That's how they pay their bills.
I was under the impression that they pay their bills primarily from the
revenue stream they get for *support* - the GPL
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