Re: Set Share Relative

2011-06-16 Thread Bill Bitner
IBM has talked about the excess Share problem as well, see chart 23 in http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/bitner/presentations/vmup2011.pdf And we are working on it. I think an assertion that it happens all the time is a little overboard. Now that we understand the problem better, I can say everyone

Re: Set Share Relative

2011-06-15 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Am I the first? That is what we were taught with 390 systems. You also didn't want your communications region to be paged out (set reserved for those). You always gave communications very high priority. You didn't want your 3270 traffic waiting. If, due to resources, you needed to wait, you

Set Share Relative

2011-06-14 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
Is there a rule of thumb on setting relative shares for zVM users? Default has them at 100, we have increased important ones to 200. I noticed the system users have very high shares, e.g. 1500. So, when you are prioritizing, or de-prioritizing should you go in small incremental (25-50) or

Re: Set Share Relative

2011-06-14 Thread Scott Rohling
Depends on how granular you want to be, but I tend to go in 100 increments... helps make the math easier. At 200 you get twice as much access to resources as those at 100, at 1500, 15 times, etc. If that seems like too much of a jump (twice as much) -- then go fractional. 150 for 1.5 times

Re: Set Share Relative

2011-06-14 Thread Jonathan Quay
You would think that's how it works, but it doesn't. I'm sure our friends and Velocity will chime in. On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote: Depends on how granular you want to be, but I tend to go in 100 increments... helps make the math easier. At

Re: Set Share Relative

2011-06-14 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on how granular you want to be, but I tend to go in 100 increments... helps make the math easier.   At 200 you get twice as much access to resources as those at 100, at 1500, 15 times, etc.   If that seems

Re: Set Share Relative

2011-06-14 Thread Scott Rohling
My statements were based on the help for CP SET SHARE.. my comments on math were somewhat tongue in cheek - but since this is a relative value - 100 is as good as any other to base things on.. set all your guests to 7 and use increment of 3 if you like. No idea at all by what you mean by

Re: Set Share Relative

2011-06-14 Thread Barton Robinson
I really despise the system defaults of REL 1500, or REL 5000. They seem (were) provided by someone ignorant of how the scheduler actually works. Rob has a nice paper showing the damage. Though ibm might try and code around how this damage impacts your system, changing these defaults to

Re: Set Share Relative

2011-06-14 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: My statements were based on the help for CP SET SHARE..  my comments on math were somewhat tongue in cheek - but since this is a relative value - 100 is as good as any other to base things on..  set all your guests

Re: Set Share Relative

2011-06-14 Thread Scott Rohling
No worries, Sir Rob - I seem to be especially cranky today. Excellent paper and explanation of relative share - and a much better answer then the simplistic HELP explanation. I'll refer to this in the future... Thank you! Scott Rohling On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Rob van der Heij

Re: Set Share Relative

2011-06-14 Thread David Kreuter
the sweet spot of CPU it takes some finagling. David Original Message Subject: Re: Set Share Relative From: Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, June 14, 2011 6:51 pm To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU No worries, Sir Rob - I seem to be especially cranky today. Excellent paper