Re: Question About LGR and Hipersocket using RHEL 7.7

2021-05-06 Thread Grzegorz Powiedziuk
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021, 12:12 PM Davis, Larry (National VM Capability) < larry.dav...@dxc.com> wrote: > We are seeing an Issue when Using Hipersockets connected to a DB2 system > on z/OS > > When we perform a VMRELOCATE (LGR) to another member in the complex we > lose the HS device and it goes

Re: Question About LGR and Hipersocket using RHEL 7.7

2021-05-03 Thread Mark Post
On 4/20/21 2:04 PM, Stefan Raspl wrote: > This is really a shot in the dark, but: Could it be a case where the > device number from source and target system are different, and you have > the target system's device IDs on the cio ignore list prior to the > migration? I.e. what happens in case you

Re: Question About LGR and Hipersocket using RHEL 7.7

2021-04-20 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM Capability)
About LGR and Hipersocket using RHEL 7.7 Larry, If this isn't resolved, I'd suggest you open a z/VM support case and the team and take a closer look. Thanks, Bill ___ Bill Bitner - z/VM Client Focus and Care

Re: Question About LGR and Hipersocket using RHEL 7.7

2021-04-20 Thread Stefan Raspl
Hi Larry, On 4/8/21 6:11 PM, Davis, Larry (National VM Capability) wrote: We are seeing an Issue when Using Hipersockets connected to a DB2 system on z/OS When we perform a VMRELOCATE (LGR) to another member in the complex we lose the HS device and it goes offline The Relocate works fine the

Re: Question About LGR and Hipersocket using RHEL 7.7

2021-04-20 Thread Bill Bitner
Larry, If this isn't resolved, I'd suggest you open a z/VM support case and the team and take a closer look. Thanks, Bill ___ Bill Bitner - z/VM Client Focus and Care - 607-429-3286 bitn...@us.ibm.com "Making

Question About LGR and Hipersocket using RHEL 7.7

2021-04-08 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM Capability)
We are seeing an Issue when Using Hipersockets connected to a DB2 system on z/OS When we perform a VMRELOCATE (LGR) to another member in the complex we lose the HS device and it goes offline The Relocate works fine the HS devices have the same EQID and we see the devices attached on the

Re: How to configure hipersocket for Ubuntu on LPAR

2016-10-26 Thread Frank Heimes
a new HiperSocket device (taken from the list with the unconfigured): sudo znetconf -a d200 Scanning for network devices... Successfully configured device 0.0.d200 (encd200) You should now see it as configured here: znetconf -c | grep HiperSockets 0.0.d200,0.0.d201,0.0.d202 1731/05 HiperSockets

Re: How to configure hipersocket for Ubuntu on LPAR

2016-10-26 Thread Alan Altmark
Answered on IBMVM. Regards, Alan Archana P --- Re: [LINUX-390] How to configure hipersocket for Ubuntu on LPAR --- From:"Archana P" <dollarpo...@gmail.com>To:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDUDate:Wed, Oct 26, 2016 4:21 AMSubject:Re: [LINUX-390] How to configure hipersocket for

Re: How to configure hipersocket for Ubuntu on LPAR

2016-10-25 Thread Archana P
Hi guys, I need your help regarding setting up the hipersocket between the Ubuntu and zACI lpars , the Ubuntu is directly installed on the LPAR something as shown below. Regards, Archana On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Mark Post <mp...@suse.com> wrote: > >>> On 10/2

Optimum Hipersocket MTU

2015-01-28 Thread Donald J.
Can anyone recommend the best hipersocket MTU size for DB/2 Text Search from z/OS to z/Linux ? Choices are 8k/16k/32k/56k. -- Donald J. dona...@4email.net -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you

Re: Optimum Hipersocket MTU

2015-01-28 Thread Donald J.
...@4email.net wrote: Can anyone recommend the best hipersocket MTU size for DB/2 Text Search from z/OS to z/Linux ? Choices are 8k/16k/32k/56k. In many cases it probably will not matter unless the data volume is really massive. If it does matter, then you need very specific configuration

Re: Optimum Hipersocket MTU

2015-01-28 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 28 January 2015 at 15:03, Donald J. dona...@4email.net wrote: Not sure about massive, but fairly large, 16.5M rows. The initial build and index setup took 8.1G diskspace on Linux. I will get a packet trace. That sounds like enough to at least consider to worry about things. The benefit

Re: Optimum Hipersocket MTU

2015-01-28 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 28 January 2015 at 14:20, Donald J. dona...@4email.net wrote: Can anyone recommend the best hipersocket MTU size for DB/2 Text Search from z/OS to z/Linux ? Choices are 8k/16k/32k/56k. In many cases it probably will not matter unless the data volume is really massive. If it does matter

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-08-08 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
I am sure that I have ever heard a better word for programming than Entwicklung -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Linnell Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:53 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-08-08 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
I am sure that I have NOT ever heard a better word for programming than Entwicklung -Original Message- From: Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 9:11 AM To: 'Linux on 390 Port' Subject: RE: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface. I am sure that I have ever heard a better word

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-08-07 Thread Peter Linnell
Hi all, I will not be at SHARE in Boston, there will be some new faces who are new to mainframe from SUSE SE team. I know you folks will treat them kindly :) That said the real reason for S.u.S.E is related to a former law in Germany which required a company's name to reflect what they did.

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-08-02 Thread Billy R. Bingham
From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Carsten Otte [co...@de.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:53 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface. Alan wrote: Carsten, this is information

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-08-02 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 2 August 2013 13:45, Billy R. Bingham brbing...@stx.rr.com wrote: I for one would like to know. :) You don't have to post to the list, you can email me private, or if you perfer you can post a URL where I can read about it. Right! Did someone miss the fact that it's Friday? First thing

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-08-01 Thread Peter Linnell
, 2013 7:53 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface. Alan wrote: Carsten, this is information that really needs to be in the Device Driver book, as it differs from the traditional interpretation of TX/RX counters. Ah, you're right - that would be accouned as dropped

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-29 Thread Ursula Braun
...@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:05 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface. Jon, without any performance data my answer can be only vague. But let's assume a performance increase for data sending when moving from SLES10 to SLES11. If the receiver has

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-26 Thread Ursula Braun
. Regards, Ursula Braun, Linux on System z Development, IBM Germany On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 18:21 +, Veencamp, Jonathon D. wrote: Question: Why would SLES 11 see hipersocket retransmits and window adjustments and not SLES 10? Is the device driver either more forgiving or efficient on SLES 10

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-26 Thread Ron Foster
www.baldor.com From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Ursula Braun [ubr...@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 3:05 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface. Jon, without any

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-25 Thread Carsten Otte
Ron, TX errors on a Hipersocket are business as usual. When the receiver fails to pick up packets at the same rate that the transmitter transmits, the queues will run full over time. TCP uses packet loss as a measure to tune the TCP window size, which effectively will reduce the transmit rate

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 07/25/2013 at 02:58 EDT, Carsten Otte co...@de.ibm.com wrote: TX errors on a Hipersocket are business as usual. When the receiver fails to pick up packets at the same rate that the transmitter transmits, the queues will run full over time. TCP uses packet loss as a measure to tune

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-25 Thread Carsten Otte
Alan wrote: Carsten, this is information that really needs to be in the Device Driver book, as it differs from the traditional interpretation of TX/RX counters. Ah, you're right - that would be accouned as dropped, not TX error. Forget about my reply then, time to look at other causes for that TX

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-25 Thread Ron Foster
...@de.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:53 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface. Alan wrote: Carsten, this is information that really needs to be in the Device Driver book, as it differs from the traditional interpretation of TX/RX counters. Ah, you're right

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-25 Thread Ursula Braun
Address:rfos...@baldor.com www.baldor.com From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Carsten Otte [co...@de.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:53 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-25 Thread Veencamp, Jonathon D.
Question: Why would SLES 11 see hipersocket retransmits and window adjustments and not SLES 10? Is the device driver either more forgiving or efficient on SLES 10? I'm just curious. I may be in the same situation soon. Regards Jon Veencamp Federated Insurance -Original Message

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-25 Thread Ron Foster
From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Carsten Otte [co...@de.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:53 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface. Alan wrote: Carsten, this is information that really needs to be in the Device

Re: TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-25 Thread Bruce Hayden
Ron, See page 11 of this presentation: http://www.vm.ibm.com/service/vmreqzeh.html This presentation is found on http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/perf/tuning_networking.htmlwhere there are other good tuning tips. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Ron Foster

TX-Errs on hipersocket interface.

2013-07-24 Thread Ron Foster
Hello, While investigating another problem, I did a netstat -I on our production SAP Linux App Servers. To my surprise, I am getting TX-ERRS on a hipersocket interface on two of our systems. The two systems have recently been converted to SLES11 SP2. The hipersocket device is connected

Re: Appropriate hipersocket MFS size for use with SAP Apps Servers

2013-06-17 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 15 June 2013 17:58, Ron Foster ron.fos...@baldor.abb.com wrote: Rob, The traffic is between our Sap application servers running under zvm. I'm surprised the traffic would be that impressive. Normally I see bandwidth requirements with SAP for the transport data via NFS. For the real

Re: Appropriate hipersocket MFS size for use with SAP Apps Servers

2013-06-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 13 June 2013 23:58, Ron Foster ron.fos...@baldor.abb.com wrote: 3. One of the things that the TCP IP folks want us to do on the hardware side is to increase the maximum frame size to 64k. for this hipersocket. 4. This would normally increase the MTU size to 56k for the hipersocket. 5

Re: Appropriate hipersocket MFS size for use with SAP Apps Servers

2013-06-15 Thread Ron Foster
...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 2:05 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Appropriate hipersocket MFS size for use with SAP Apps Servers On 13 June 2013 23:58, Ron Foster ron.fos...@baldor.abb.com wrote: 3. One of the things that the TCP IP folks want us to do on the hardware side

Re: Appropriate hipersocket MFS size for use with SAP Apps Servers

2013-06-14 Thread David Boyes
3. One of the things that the TCP IP folks want us to do on the hardware side is to increase the maximum frame size to 64k. for this hipersocket. 4. This would normally increase the MTU size to 56k for the hipersocket. 5. If I remember properly the 56k value would exceed the SAP

Re: Appropriate hipersocket MFS size for use with SAP Apps Servers

2013-06-14 Thread Leland Lucius
On 6/13/2013 2:28 PM, Ron Foster wrote: Anyone have any experience running SAP apps servers under z/vm with a larger than 8k MTU size? We run with a 16K MFS and an 8K MTU. Like you, we use a single hipersocket CHPID. However, we're still on z/OS 1.12 with plans to upgrade to z/OS 1.13

Appropriate hipersocket MFS size for use with SAP Apps Servers

2013-06-13 Thread Ron Foster
Hello listers, We have a bunch of SAP application servers running under z/vm. They are all pointed at the same z/os 1.13 system. There are several DB2s running on this z/OS system. All the Apps servers are using the same hipersocket chpid to communicate to the z/os system the same

Re: Appropriate hipersocket MFS size for use with SAP Apps Servers

2013-06-13 Thread Alan Altmark
hipersocket chpid to communicate to the z/os system the same hipersocket chipid. Since going to z/OS 1.13, we are experiencing storage creep in our TCPIP address space. This hipersocket is using a 8k MTU size. I believe this to be the SAP recommended size. Our z/os support folks are being told

Re: Appropriate hipersocket MFS size for use with SAP Apps Servers

2013-06-13 Thread Ron Foster
Alan, I went to talk to the z/os guy to get a better understanding of what the TCP IP folks are wanting done. I now have a better understanding of what is going on. 1. We have so much data flowing through the hipersocket chipid that we are experiencing queueing in the hipersocket

Re: hipersocket question for dummies (me )

2012-01-23 Thread Ward, Mike S
...@its.ms.gov Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 3:18 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: hipersocket question for dummies (me ) We are having a connection issue with a couple of our linux guests that simply proves I don't know what I'm doing AND I can't seem to RTFM correctly Environment is Suse 11

Re: hipersocket question for dummies (me )

2012-01-21 Thread Offer Baruch
it - would someone please point this dba who is subbing as a sysprog in the right direction. You're right, it's simple. That said, it's not obvious. But since you're just subbing, all is forgiven. :-) Each HiperSocket chpid is its own LAN segment. They are not bridged together. So the hosts

Re: hipersocket question for dummies (me )

2012-01-21 Thread David Kreuter
that one stack has two sets of hipersockets defined to it the networks can't see each other. 3. From z/VM MAINT userid do a: Q CHPID E8 Q CHPID E9 this will show you the devices bolted off each chpid - could be informative! 4. where possible I like to have only a few hipersocket IQD chpids - hopefully

Re: hipersocket question for dummies (me )

2012-01-20 Thread Alan Altmark
in the right direction. You're right, it's simple. That said, it's not obvious. But since you're just subbing, all is forgiven. :-) Each HiperSocket chpid is its own LAN segment. They are not bridged together. So the hosts using E8 have to go through a *router* (e.g. Linux, z/OS, z/VM) to get a host

hipersocket question for dummies (me )

2012-01-20 Thread Bruce . Lightsey
We are having a connection issue with a couple of our linux guests that simply proves I don't know what I'm doing AND I can't seem to RTFM correctly Environment is Suse 11 guests on z/VM 6 trying to connect to z/OS 1.12 on a z196, The first 8 guests work just fine - z/OS IP address is

z/VM - SLES11 Hipersocket issue

2011-10-05 Thread Jose Raul Baron
. - However our SLES11, despite pinging the other SLES10s in net 192.0.1.x fails on pinging z/VM 192.0.1.x address. That is, it seems like z/VM TCPIP can ping every SLES10 Hipersocket but can't ping the SLES11 hipersocket. I tried to attach a jpg picture explaining this but the system didn't allow me

Re: z/VM - SLES11 Hipersocket issue

2011-10-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
other successfully - All SLES10s ping z/VM 192.0.1.x address successfully. - However our SLES11, despite pinging the other SLES10s in net 192.0.1.x fails on pinging z/VM 192.0.1.x address. That is, it seems like z/VM TCPIP can ping every SLES10 Hipersocket but can't ping the SLES11

HiperSocket Advice

2009-12-21 Thread Lionel Dyck
What is the recommendation or general practice regarding hipersocket addresses and dns? Do you register the hipersocket address in the dns or stick with referencing it via the octet? Thanks Lionel B. Dyck z/Linux Specialist IBM Corporation Global Technology Services - Kaiser Account Work

Re: HiperSocket Advice

2009-12-21 Thread Mauro Souza
isn't that hard. Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Lionel Dyck ld...@us.ibm.com wrote: What is the recommendation or general practice regarding hipersocket addresses and dns

Re: HiperSocket Advice

2009-12-21 Thread Marcy Cortes
- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lionel Dyck Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:07 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [LINUX-390] HiperSocket Advice What is the recommendation or general practice regarding hipersocket addresses and dns? Do you register

Re: HiperSocket Advice

2009-12-21 Thread David Boyes
On 12/21/09 10:06 AM, Lionel Dyck ld...@us.ibm.com wrote: What is the recommendation or general practice regarding hipersocket addresses and dns? Same as any other address: put it in the DNS with a unique name, eg host-hsi1.foo.bar.com Do you register the hipersocket address in the dns

SLeS10 SP1 - hipersocket via YAST

2009-07-07 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
HI All Anyone got a presentation or document that covers the creation of Hipersockets using YAST ?, We have done it via command line but for completeness would like to cove the YAST option as well. Gerard Ceruti | Technical Specialist |Mainframe Systems | Standard Bank South Africa |Riverclub

Re: SLeS10 SP1 - hipersocket via YAST

2009-07-07 Thread Mark Post
On 7/7/2009 at 7:50 AM, Ceruti, Gerard G gerard.cer...@standardbank.co.za wrote: HI All Anyone got a presentation or document that covers the creation of Hipersockets using YAST ?, We have done it via command line but for completeness would like to cove the YAST option as well. yast

Re: SLeS10 SP1 - hipersocket via YAST

2009-07-07 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Thanks Mark Regards Gerard Ceruti may the 'z' be with you SharePoint (internal) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: 07 July 2009 18:43 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLeS10 SP1 - hipersocket via YAST On 7/7

Re: Hipersocket

2009-03-31 Thread John Schnitzler Jr
Are Hipersocket devices supposed to show up in Yast as 3 different devices, where an OSA adapter shows up as 1?SLES10 SP2 IBM OSA Express Network card (0.0.1d00)│ IBM Hipersocket (0.0.0704) │Not configured │ IBM Hipersocket (0.0.0705) │Not configured │ IBM Hipersocket

Re: Hipersocket

2009-03-31 Thread Mark Pace
Not having any luck with Hipersockets in SLES10, working great in SLES9 Does this look correct for a Hipersocket device in SLES10? sles002:/etc/sysconfig/hardware # cat hwcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.0704 CCW_CHAN_IDS='' CCW_CHAN_MODE='' CCW_CHAN_NUM='3' LCS_LANCMD_TIMEOUT='' MODULE='' MODULE_OPTIONS

Re: Hipersocket

2009-03-31 Thread roger . shipman
@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Hipersocket Not having any luck with Hipersockets in SLES10, working great in SLES9 Does this look correct for a Hipersocket device in SLES10? sles002:/etc/sysconfig/hardware # cat hwcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.0704 CCW_CHAN_IDS='' CCW_CHAN_MODE

Re: Hipersocket

2009-03-31 Thread Mark Post
On 3/31/2009 at 3:42 PM, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: Not having any luck with Hipersockets in SLES10, working great in SLES9 Does this look correct for a Hipersocket device in SLES10? No. There was a regression (I can't quite call it a bug) in SP2 where going in to YaST to configure

Re: Hipersocket

2009-03-31 Thread Ron Foster
...@daimler.com roger.ship...@daimler.com Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:47:49 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDULINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Hipersocket Look at this manual..don't worry about the title..It has a great write up and directions on HIPER. We just went from SLES9 th 10 and I use the instructions

Re: Hipersocket

2009-03-31 Thread Kyle Black
Mark, I haven't specifically worked on a Hipersocket in SLES10 yet, the few machines I have that utilize them are not yet upgraded from SLES9-10 yet. BUT I have had the exact same problem as you with regular QETH devices. It seems that YaST doesn't always properly configure and then hwup

Re: Hipersocket MTU size for DB2 Connect ?

2009-02-24 Thread Joerg Maier
) then a smaller MTU may be best. bruce.light...@its.ms.gov wrote: We are just now setting up our first hipersocket connection(s) from z/VM and linux to z/OS and will primarily use this first cut for DB2 connect to talk to DB2 on z/OS. Does anyone have a guide for the MTU size? ( redbook, whitepaper, etc

Hipersocket MTU size for DB2 Connect ?

2009-02-23 Thread Bruce . Lightsey
We are just now setting up our first hipersocket connection(s) from z/VM and linux to z/OS and will primarily use this first cut for DB2 connect to talk to DB2 on z/OS. Does anyone have a guide for the MTU size? ( redbook, whitepaper, etc ) Thanks, Bruce Lightsey Mississippi Dept. of Information

Re: Hipersocket MTU size for DB2 Connect ?

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Post
On 2/23/2009 at 3:50 PM, bruce.light...@its.ms.gov wrote: We are just now setting up our first hipersocket connection(s) from z/VM and linux to z/OS and will primarily use this first cut for DB2 connect to talk to DB2 on z/OS. Does anyone have a guide for the MTU size? ( redbook, whitepaper

Re: Hipersocket MTU size for DB2 Connect ?

2009-02-23 Thread Rich Smrcina
up our first hipersocket connection(s) from z/VM and linux to z/OS and will primarily use this first cut for DB2 connect to talk to DB2 on z/OS. Does anyone have a guide for the MTU size? ( redbook, whitepaper, etc ) Thanks, Bruce Lightsey Mississippi Dept. of Information Technology Services 301 N

HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Rakoczy, Dave
throughput times for these processes. Currently the HiperSocket channel is defined in the I/O Gen as having a Maximum Frame Size of 16 KB, the MTU size on both the zOS and z/linux interfaces is set to 8192 (see Below). The backups are going to our VTS which is Ficon attached to the Mainframe

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Rakoczy, Dave wrote: I've spent the past few days scouring these archives looking for what others have done. I found a few threads that addressed HiperSocket throughput speeds between zOS and zLinux, but were using FTP as the benchmark utility. I have a window

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread David Boyes
For bulk data transfer, make the MTU size as large as possible, and make your packet sizes at least 40 bytes smaller than the maximum MTU to avoid fragmentation of data packets. That allows space for the TCP header on each packet. Note that this will affect interactive response, so it's probably

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Rakoczy, Dave
, 2009 10:07 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSocket Performance For bulk data transfer, make the MTU size as large as possible, and make your packet sizes at least 40 bytes smaller than the maximum MTU to avoid fragmentation of data packets. That allows space for the TCP header

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Mark Post
On 1/15/2009 at 10:35 AM, Rakoczy, Dave dave.rako...@thermofisher.com wrote: -snip- Sorry for all the questions... But I've got to learn this stuff somewhere. No need to apologize. The reason this mailing list exists in the first place is to share knowledge. Mark Post

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Rakoczy, Dave
implement this weekend I'll need to live with for the next month, that's why I'm looking for what others have experienced. Yes, this HiperSocket interface will be dedicated to Bulk Transfers, specifically our backups. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Mark Perry
Rakoczy, Dave wrote: zLinux assigns the MTU size according to the IQD CHPID definition. For sake of discussion lets say I set the CHPID to a Max Frame Size of 64K, that would give me an MTU size of 56K according to the Doc. Where can I control the size of the packets I'll send across the

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 15, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Rakoczy, Dave wrote: zLinux assigns the MTU size according to the IQD CHPID definition. For sake of discussion lets say I set the CHPID to a Max Frame Size of 64K, that would give me an MTU size of 56K according to the Doc. Where can I control the size of the

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Ron Foster at Baldor-IS
management tools. During the last week or so we've been testing the different FDR/Upstreams backup and restore processes (including the RMAN option). The backup and restore processes work as advertised, but we are looking for better throughput times for these processes. Currently the HiperSocket channel

hipersocket

2008-10-16 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Hi All When defining the QDIO CHPID in HCD is there any issue with defining a Frame Size of 64K ?, if we leave our MTU at 8K other than the some storage wastage are there any other issues we need to be aware of Regards Gerard Ceruti may the 'z' be with you

Re: hipersocket

2008-10-16 Thread Mark Perry
Ceruti, Gerard G wrote: Hi All When defining the QDIO CHPID in HCD is there any issue with defining a Frame Size of 64K ?, if we leave our MTU at 8K other than the some storage wastage are there any other issues we need to be aware of Regards Gerard Ceruti may the 'z' be with you Hi

Re: hipersocket

2008-10-16 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Hi Mark This is pure HiperSocket setup, all internal on the same CEC, RHEL and SUSE guests talking to DB2 on zOS. Regards Gerard Ceruti may the 'z' be with you -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Perry Sent: 16 October 2008 06:03 PM

Re: hipersocket

2008-10-16 Thread Ron Foster at Baldor-IS
Gerard, In a qdio environment, you have a queue of buffers (default 16 inbound). Depending on you situation, the storage wastage can add up. I am not sure, but I think that these buffers have to be locked in storage. If you have a large number of hipersocket connections and a large number

Re: hipersocket

2008-10-16 Thread Mark Perry
Ceruti, Gerard G wrote: Hi Mark This is pure HiperSocket setup, all internal on the same CEC, RHEL and SUSE guests talking to DB2 on zOS. Regards Gerard Ceruti may the 'z' be with you Hi Gerard, I believe you are working with Jochen Roehig? If so he is in discussions with Volker

Re: hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-03-02 Thread Harold Grovesteen
If you consider a best practice must be such in all cases to be best (an absolute), then yes I would agree with you. I just would not put it on my resume that I never use best practices, ;-), because such absolutes do not exist. I sense that you have discomfort over the use of the word best and

Re: hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-03-01 Thread Harold Grovesteen
Because my organization has yet to implement Linux virtualization on the mainframe, I tend to use this list as a way to stay abreast of developments with little to contribute. However, as a networking professional designing global networks I must state that your advise, Mr. Boyes, to the list is

Re: hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-03-01 Thread Rob van der Heij
From the knitpicking gallery: rather than best practice I would call it common practice I see some similarity with a recent discussion about allocation of cylinder 0 as page. We know that CP does not mind and there should be no issue. Still, for several good reasons people tend to avoid doing

Re: hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-02-28 Thread David Boyes
When setting up the IP address for a hipersocket I am curious as to if people are giving it the same IP address as with the regular outside of the mainframe (OSA or whatever) IP address. Absolutely DO NOT do this. Each interface needs a unique address (and IMHO, a unique DNS name). The whole

Re: hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-02-28 Thread Alan Cox
Absolutely DO NOT do this. Each interface needs a unique address (and IMHO, a unique DNS name). The whole premise of IP routing and network function is based on this concept. You don't have to have a per interface IP address or DNS (or indeed MAC address), but they must be at least per host

Re: hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-02-28 Thread Frank Swarbrick
On 2/28/2008 at 8:57 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When setting up the IP address for a hipersocket I am curious as to if people are giving it the same IP address as with the regular outside of the mainframe (OSA or whatever) IP address

Re: hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-02-28 Thread David Boyes
You don't have to have a per interface IP address or DNS (or indeed MAC address), but they must be at least per host (and virtual machines with their own IP stack are a host). IP is quite happy with that situation. I'd argue that you will have more problems trying to make this work reliably

Re: hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-02-28 Thread Alan Cox
O I'd argue that you will have more problems trying to make this work reliably than just doing it the way I described. If you've got time to debug this and all the paths have equivalent permissions and usability characteristics, then yes, it's technically possible. You just have to have a lot

Re: hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-02-28 Thread David Boyes
O I'd argue that you will have more problems trying to make this work reliably than just doing it the way I described. If you've got time to debug this and all the paths have equivalent permissions and usability characteristics, then yes, it's technically possible. You just have to have a

hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-02-26 Thread Frank Swarbrick
When setting up the IP address for a hipersocket I am curious as to if people are giving it the same IP address as with the regular outside of the mainframe (OSA or whatever) IP address. We have TCP/IP stacks with hipersockets running on VSE, Linux and z/OS. On some of the VSE stacks we use

Re: hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-02-26 Thread Thomas Kern
When I set up my hipersocket network between two z/VM LPARs, I went to the networking people and got a 10.x.y.0-255 segment for my own use. They promised not to let anyone else use it in the rest of the network. /Tom Kern Frank Swarbrick wrote: When setting up the IP address for a hipersocket

Re: hipersocket address versus regular address

2008-02-26 Thread Rich Smrcina
The hipersocket network devices should be on a separate subnet from the rest of your network devices. The hipersocket network is a private network and it needs to be treated as such. Also, different hipersocket CHPIDs require different subnets since they represent different network segments

Re: Hipersocket Guest Lan Question

2007-11-16 Thread Alan Altmark
like I need to give it more thought to determine just how many Linux guest will want hipersocket access to z/os data. It may not be worth the effort to configure a hipersocket guest lan for the the Linux guests to connect into, just save on real hipersocket addresses. You know those recent posts

Re: Hipersocket Guest Lan Question

2007-11-15 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 11/14/2007 at 06:00 EST, Spracklen, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently we started planning for Linux guests to access data on the z/os lpars via hipersockets. As part of that process, we defined a new hipersocket, IUTIQDEF, to the z/VM TCPIP guest profile and added

Re: Hipersocket Guest Lan Question

2007-11-15 Thread Spracklen, Ken
Alan and Mark, Thanks for the help. I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect that if I change the ip addresses on the new hipersocket interfaces, it will help. I think part of my confusion came from reading section 4.3 of the Linux for IBM System z9 and IBM zSeries redbook and mis-interpreting

Hipersocket Guest Lan Question

2007-11-14 Thread Spracklen, Ken
Hi, Considering the following scenario possible. One our CEC we have 3 z/os lpars and an IFL running z/VM 5.3. On the z/VM we have a few SUSE Linux quests as well as TCPIP and MPROUTE guests. On all three z/OS lpars and the TCPIP guest I have a hipersocket device, IUTIQDFF, defined

Re: Hipersocket Guest Lan Question

2007-11-14 Thread Mark Post
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 4:21 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Spracklen, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Recently we started planning for Linux guests to access data on the z/os lpars via hipersockets. As part of that process, we defined a new hipersocket, IUTIQDEF, to the z/VM TCPIP

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-19 Thread Harold Grovesteen
to find the real bottleneck. Are you equiped? Mark Wheeler wrote: More info: FTP GET's of this cached 256MB file to /dev/null have run as fast as 205 MB/sec w/ MTU=32760 over hipersocket interfaces, and 168 MB over virtual CTCs. FTP PUT's are a different matter: hipersocket or CTC doesn't make

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-19 Thread Mark Wheeler
Subject Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 01/19/2007 04:55 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-18 Thread Mark Wheeler
More info: FTP GET's of this cached 256MB file to /dev/null have run as fast as 205 MB/sec w/ MTU=32760 over hipersocket interfaces, and 168 MB over virtual CTCs. FTP PUT's are a different matter: hipersocket or CTC doesn't make a difference. The higher MTU size, the slower the transfer rate

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-18 Thread barton
I've seen this a lot. You need to find the real bottleneck. Are you equiped? Mark Wheeler wrote: More info: FTP GET's of this cached 256MB file to /dev/null have run as fast as 205 MB/sec w/ MTU=32760 over hipersocket interfaces, and 168 MB over virtual CTCs. FTP PUT's are a different

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-16 Thread Mark Wheeler
do others use for hipersocket MTU size? Mark Greetings all, I've been using real hipersockets for a couple years now. Recently a significant performance problem with SLES 9 and large MTU sizes was brought to my attention. I've been using MTU=32760. I set up a test to illustrate the problem

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-15 Thread Tom Shilson
-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 Mark, I saw something similar when we first went to SLES-9 (64 bit). We had MTU sizes being negotiated down to an idiotic packet size of 1492. Whether or not this has to do with how our OSA is configured I never did

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