Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-26 Thread Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno
Didn't thought about that! Thanks again. Roberto. El dom., 25 de ago. de 2019 a la(s) 11:49, Mark Post (mp...@suse.com) escribió: > On 8/25/19 2:04 AM, Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno wrote: > > To bad that this shop doesn't have SUSE. > > Go to https://scc.suse.com/ and create a no-cost account. Then

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-25 Thread Mark Post
On 8/25/19 2:04 AM, Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno wrote: > To bad that this shop doesn't have SUSE. Go to https://scc.suse.com/ and create a no-cost account. Then go to https://download.suse.com/Download?buildid=xbuTZMVIYxE~ and sign in with that account to download SLES15 SP1 for Z. Use the rescue

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-25 Thread Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno
Hello Mark, Thanks a lot, you have been a great help. I did took out the cio_ignore parameter but the rescue system, strictly speaking, never jumped out. About the !, as I told you it didn't work, but funny that in the zipl.conf file it do was an ! an it has no problem! To bad that this shop

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-23 Thread Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno
009 crashkernel=auto" 15. Exited the chgroot shell. [anaconda root@linux8 sbin]# exit exit 16. Mounted de boot DASD. [anaconda root@linux8 root]# mkdir /boot [anaconda root@linux8 root]# mount -t ext4 /dev/dasdb1 /boot 17. Ran the zipl with config. file parameter. [anaconda ro

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-22 Thread Mark Post
On 8/21/19 6:50 PM, Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno wrote: > Hello Mark, > -snip- > I’m not familiar with RH configuration files either, sincerely? I prefer > SUSE =] In that case, IPL a SUSE installation kernel and initrd and use the rescue system from there. Or, if you have a currently running SUSE

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-22 Thread Steffen Maier
Hi Roberto, On 8/22/19 12:34 AM, Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno wrote: Tried this configuration: root=/dev/ram0 ro ip=off ramdisk_size=4 rescue and still booting installer, not a rescue system: Starting sshd to allow login over the network. Connect now to 172.27.20.19 and log in as user

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-21 Thread Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno
Hello Mark, > I'm hoping that right bracket is a typo, since it should be an >exclamation point. That “]” is what the system translated when I transferred de .RPM file from the ISO. Changed to “!” and the VM didn’t IPLed the installer (from the reader with the rescue.exec). >As Steffen

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-21 Thread Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno
Hello Steffen, Tried this configuration: root=/dev/ram0 ro ip=off ramdisk_size=4 rescue and still booting installer, not a rescue system: … Starting sshd to allow login over the network. Connect now to 172.27.20.19 and log in as user install to start the installation . E.g. using: ssh

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-21 Thread Mark Post
On 8/20/19 7:20 PM, Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno wrote: > Hello everyone again, Mark,  > > > I tried to IPL in rescue mode by doing these 2 configuration files: > > RESCUE   PRM  A1 > > root=/dev/ram0 ro ip=off ramdisk_size=4 cio_ignore=all,]0.0.0009 I'm hoping that right bracket is a

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-21 Thread Steffen Maier
Hi Roberto, On 8/21/19 1:20 AM, Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno wrote: I tried to IPL in rescue mode by doing these 2 configuration files: RESCUE PRM A1 root=/dev/ram0 ro ip=off ramdisk_size=4 cio_ignore=all,]0.0.0009 inst.rescue This looks like upstream (and RHEL7 or RHEL8) syntax

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-20 Thread Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno
. Roberto. El vie., 16 de ago. de 2019 a la(s) 14:38, Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno ( roberto.ibar...@gmail.com) escribió: > Hello Mark, > > Tried adding the DASDs in the IPL command, same result: > > *CP I 200 PARM RD_DASD=0.0.0205 > RD_DASD=0.0.0206 *

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno
Hello Mark, Tried adding the DASDs in the IPL command, same result: *CP I 200 PARM RD_DASD=0.0.0205 RD_DASD=0.0.0206 * zIPL v1.8.2-28.el6 interactive boot menu 0. default (linux) 1. linux Note: VM users please use 'Ñcp vi vmsg ' Please choose (default

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Ted Rodriguez-Bell
Roberto: There are two things you can try: The right way is to boot the system off CD, mount all the devices, do a chroot to your disks, fix /etc/zipl.conf, do "mkinitrd ; zipl", and then shut everything down. Suse describes it in detail at https://www.suse.com/support/kb/doc/?

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Alan Altmark
Yes, but it doesn’t help when you don’t have another user ID at your disposal or don’t have the privileges. (In 2019, one should remove SET SECUSER and SET OBSERVER from class G to prevent a user from giving his or her console to another ID.) Regards, Alan Altmark IBM > On Aug 16, 2019, at

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Neale Ferguson
True, but I left it so the user could specify VMSG or PVMSG. I also missed the SEND CP rather than just SEND in the 1st instance. On 8/16/19, 13:27, "Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Michael Harding" wrote: A little more complicated... I think you want 'VINPUT VMSG' Then, if your

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Michael Harding
ARIST.EDU > Date: 08/16/2019 09:57 AM > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / > FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl. > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port > > In the interim a simple REXX program? (Assuming you hav

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Neale Ferguson
Correction: /* */ parse arg Target Command upper Target CPRc = DIAGRC(8,'SEND CP' Target 'VINPUT' Command) parse var CPRC Rc Message if (Rc <> 0) then say Message exit Rc -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Mark Post
On 8/16/19 9:32 AM, Dan Horák wrote: > I think the kernel cmdline parameters are case sensitive, so using > something like > #cp vi vmsg 1 rd_DASD=210 rd_DASD=211 > on the console to manually select the boot entry might fix the problem It's might easier and less guess-intensive if you put that

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Neale Ferguson
In the interim a simple REXX program? (Assuming you have a SECUSER or a privileged user) /* */ parse arg Target Command upper Target CPRc = DIAGRC(8,'SEND' Target 'VINPUT' Command) parse var CPRC Rc Message if (Rc <> 0) then say Message exit Rc On 8/16/19, 12:47, "Linux on 390 Port on

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Marcy Cortes
Alan wrote: >I've been thinking for some time that we might want to consider revisiting >that for the VINPUT command. It's a command specifically designed to >deliver data to a guest, not CP and not someone else's console. As such, >it should be left to the guest to do the translation if it

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 08/16/2019 at 01:55 GMT, "Dan Horák" wrote: > On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 08:38:20 -0500 > Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno wrote: > > > Hi Dan, > > > > Tried that mixed case from the VM session console but it convert it to > > upper case. > > Suggestion? > > hm, maybe the upper-casing is a feature

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Dan Horák
arra Magdaleno wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I defined 2 new z/VM 6.2.0 minidisks for a RHEL 6.0 VM to grow / > > > FS, everything went right except I forgot to Persistently Setting > > > DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl. Got "Ref

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno
I defined 2 new z/VM 6.2.0 minidisks for a RHEL 6.0 VM to grow / FS, > > everything went right except I forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs > > Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl. Got "Refusing activation of > > partial LV lv_root. Use --partial to override." in next IPL.

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Dan Horák
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 20:48:17 -0500 Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno wrote: > Hello all, > > I defined 2 new z/VM 6.2.0 minidisks for a RHEL 6.0 VM to grow / FS, > everything went right except I forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs > Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl. Got "

Re: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-16 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM Capability)
21:48 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl. Hello all, I defined 2 new z/VM 6.2.0 minidisks for a RHEL 6.0 VM to grow / FS, everything went right except I forgot

Defined minidisks RHEL 6.0 on z/VM to grow / FS, forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl.

2019-08-15 Thread Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno
Hello all, I defined 2 new z/VM 6.2.0 minidisks for a RHEL 6.0 VM to grow / FS, everything went right except I forgot to Persistently Setting DASDs Online with /etc/zipl.conf and zipl. Got "Refusing activation of partial LV lv_root. Use --partial to override." in next IPL. Since

Re: Dump volumes made with zipl -d

2017-05-02 Thread Steffen Maier
On 05/01/2017 10:20 PM, Marcy Cortes wrote: Is my dump volume made with zipl -d on SLES 11 SP4 still good for SLES 12 SP2? Would be nice not to have 2 of them. There might be some differences regarding SMT (and maybe also SIMD) support but I'm not sure that's really all to take into account

Re: Dump volumes made with zipl -d

2017-05-01 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 5/1/2017 at 04:20 PM, Marcy Cortes <marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com> >>> wrote: > Is my dump volume made with zipl -d on SLES 11 SP4 still good for SLES 12 > SP2? > Would be nice not to have 2 of them. I don't really know. I suspect that what's on t

Dump volumes made with zipl -d

2017-05-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
Is my dump volume made with zipl -d on SLES 11 SP4 still good for SLES 12 SP2? Would be nice not to have 2 of them. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy

Re: zipl

2012-08-17 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:09:24 -0400 (EDT), Mark Post wrote: On 8/14/2012 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: But getting to the root of the problem, whenever you delete a DASD device you need to re-build your initial RAM file system, then run zipl. Running zipl, by itself

zipl (again)

2012-08-16 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
(mounted on / as ext3) Kernel Modules: jbd mbcache ext3 scsi_mod scsi_dh scsi_dh_alua scsi_dh_hp_sw scsi_dh_emc scsi_dh_rdac dasd_mod dasd_eckd_mod crc-t10 dif sd_mod Features: block dasd 24950 blocks lnx050:/etc # zipl Using config file '/etc/zipl.conf' Building bootmap in '/boot/zipl

Re: zipl (again)

2012-08-16 Thread Mark Post
On 8/16/2012 at 02:20 PM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: At this point is really just academic because I can make it work, BUT here is the data from my experiment. Removed parameters= line totally, then: I don't think anyone ever recommended that step. -snip- Keep

Re: zipl

2012-08-15 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
Mark, here you go. Original zipl.conf [ipl] image = /boot/image target = /boot/zipl ramdisk = /boot/initrd,0x400 parameters = root=/dev/dasda1 dasd=202,700-730 TERM=dumb run zipl Server comes up fine. Now: CHANGE zipl.conf to remove parameter root=/dev/dasda1 and run zipl

Re: zipl

2012-08-15 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
Mark, you are correct. I was running only zipl and NOT mkinitrd. As always, thanks. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 4:28 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: zipl On 8/14/2012

Re: zipl

2012-08-15 Thread Scott Rohling
I think you were supposed to remove the dasd= - not the root= Scott Rohling On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.comwrote: Mark, here you go. Original zipl.conf [ipl] image = /boot/image target = /boot/zipl ramdisk = /boot/initrd,0x400

Re: zipl

2012-08-15 Thread Mark Post
On 8/14/2012 at 10:22 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: But getting to the root of the problem, whenever you delete a DASD device you need to re-build your initial RAM file system, then run zipl. Running zipl, by itself, is not enough. The list of DASD devices to be brought

zipl

2012-08-14 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
We have gotten in to trouble twice now with zipl.conf. We are on 10.3, upgrading to 10.4 then to 11.2. We have removed DASD in the past - USER DIRECTORY - and when we boot again without running zipl we get problems with it trying to load the old DASD def. I do not have, I recently discovered

Re: zipl

2012-08-14 Thread Mark Post
On 8/14/2012 at 03:59 PM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: We have gotten in to trouble twice now with zipl.conf. We are on 10.3, upgrading to 10.4 then to 11.2. We have removed DASD in the past - USER DIRECTORY - and when we boot again without running zipl we get problems

Re: zipl

2012-08-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:59:19 -0400 (EDT), David Dean wrote: We have gotten in to trouble twice now with zipl.conf. We are on 10.3, upgrading to 10.4 then to 11.2. We have removed DASD in the past - USER DIRECTORY - and when we boot again without running zipl we get problems with it trying

Re: zIPL from s390utils package

2012-01-25 Thread Brad Hinson
On Jan 25, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 01/24/2012 at 03:07 EST, James Vincent jamesscottvinc...@gmail.com wrote: We have dump devices set up with the zIPL tool from the s390utils package (the 1.8.2 level). The tool has worked great but we have noticed something

Re: zIPL from s390utils package

2012-01-25 Thread Michael Holzheu
. So for the case that you have a large standby area after the last online chunk (as in your example) that would make the dump much smaller. It is possible to tell the dumper to only dump nn MB by specifiying this when zipl is called (e.g. zipl -d /dev/dasdxy1,nnM). But this probably is no option

Re: zIPL from s390utils package

2012-01-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 01/24/2012 at 03:07 EST, James Vincent jamesscottvinc...@gmail.com wrote: We have dump devices set up with the zIPL tool from the s390utils package (the 1.8.2 level). The tool has worked great but we have noticed something interesting. We are setting up our linux guests

Re: zipl, bootmenu and FCP devices

2010-02-12 Thread Mark Ver
Am I reading that right? Only for DASD disk devices?Does this mean that I have no alternative and no means to build a boot menu? Unfortunately this seems to be a feature of the scsi load mechanism. The boot configuration sections are still there, but it never puts up an actual menu to

zipl, bootmenu and FCP devices

2010-02-11 Thread Moeur Tim C
or reach single user mode, but this might be a problem in the future. I see in the doc from a 'man zipl.conf' command this: Boot menu The zipl tool provides a boot menu function which enables users to choose a boot con- figuration and to modify the kernel command line parameters at IPL

Re: zipl, bootmenu and FCP devices

2010-02-11 Thread Michael O'Reilly
Tim, A menu doesn't appear, but to select the various stanza in /etc/zipl.conf, before you IPL, use the following to Specify the SCSI boot disk’s target port and LUN and which zipl boot configuration is to be used in the CMS LOADDEV environment variable. Omitting the BOOTPROG parameter

Re: zipl, bootmenu and FCP devices

2010-02-11 Thread Moeur Tim C
, 2010 12:39 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: zipl, bootmenu and FCP devices Tim, A menu doesn't appear, but to select the various stanza in /etc/zipl.conf, before you IPL, use the following to Specify the SCSI boot disk’s target port and LUN and which zipl boot configuration is to be used

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-06-02 Thread Peter Oberparleiter
Mark Post wrote: I'm not sure how to react to Peter's email. If zipl hasn't been updated to deal with MPIO, then I don't understand how the IPL through IFCC feature is supposed to work. IPL through IFCC refers to a minor improvement in the way IFCCs are handled during the very early stage

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-29 Thread Peter Oberparleiter
Romanowski, John (OFT) wrote: But on sles 11 zipl will accept multipath LUN and reports Target device information Device..: fd:0a Device name.: dm-10 Device driver name..: device-mapper Type: disk device

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-29 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
As a concession to the recession we've crowd-sourced support. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:50 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-29 Thread Mark Post
, but it would be nice to know what happens in real life. I'm not sure how to react to Peter's email. If zipl hasn't been updated to deal with MPIO, then I don't understand how the IPL through IFCC feature is supposed to work. Mark Post

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-29 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:15 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem On 5/28/2009 at 3:39 PM, Romanowski, John (OFT) john.romanow...@cio.ny.gov wrote: As a concession to the recession we've crowd

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-28 Thread Marc Schoechlin
Linux Enterprise Server 11. (Which I think means zipl can now write the scsi bootloader to a multipath LUN.) unluckily, it's a long time ago i played around with scsi/fcp on z Series - but if i remember correctly, there it is no possibility to use zipl on a multipath device (i.e. /dev/mpath0

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-28 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Hi Marc, My experiences and workaround on sles 9 and 10 agrees with yours; zipl-ing a multipath LUN on sles 10 rejects it with message Error: Unsupported device driver 'device-mapper' But on sles 11 zipl will accept multipath LUN and reports Target device information Device

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-28 Thread Mark Post
in SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11. (Which I think means zipl can now write the scsi bootloader to a multipath LUN.) The release notes for SLES11 doesn't mention zipl specifically, but section 3.9 System z lists under Hardware: Multipath IPL (IPL through IFCC) That means if Linux receives

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-28 Thread Mark Post
On 5/28/2009 at 10:37 AM, Romanowski, John (OFT) john.romanow...@cio.ny.gov wrote: Hi Marc, My experiences and workaround on sles 9 and 10 agrees with yours; zipl-ing a multipath LUN on sles 10 rejects it with message Error: Unsupported device driver 'device-mapper' But on sles 11

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-28 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
sles 11 Storage Guide steps to turn on multipathing say just run mkinitrd and reboot, no mention of zipl. I thought that a typo but man mkinitrd describes a -B option to suppress it running update-bootloader and after running mkinitrd the /boot/zipl/bootmap file has the same timestamp

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-28 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
multipath-tools makes device-mapper devices. My multipath /boot partition is device 253:10 or fd:0a as reported by zipl multipathd is running, boot.multipath runs during boot. per the Storage Guide, for multipathing I changed zipl.conf from disk/by-path to disk/by-id. zipl.conf

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-28 Thread Mark Post
On 5/28/2009 at 12:34 PM, Romanowski, John (OFT) john.romanow...@cio.ny.gov wrote: sles 11 Storage Guide steps to turn on multipathing say just run mkinitrd and reboot, no mention of zipl. I thought that a typo but man mkinitrd describes a -B option to suppress it running update

Re: sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-28 Thread Mark Post
On 5/28/2009 at 1:12 PM, Romanowski, John (OFT) john.romanow...@cio.ny.gov wrote: multipath-tools makes device-mapper devices. My multipath /boot partition is device 253:10 or fd:0a as reported by zipl multipathd is running, boot.multipath runs during boot. We typically recommend

sles11 zipl multipath /boot problem

2009-05-27 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
On a z10 I have a sles 11 with multipath /boot LUN and a separate multipath / LUN sles 11 Storage Guide says sles 11 supports a multipath /boot: DM-MP is now available and supported for /boot and /root in SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11. (Which I think means zipl can now write the scsi

error zipl linux clone

2009-03-02 Thread Hugo Luis Vitelli
Hello people ... Here I bring another concern, which I imagine you have crossed it. After performing the cloning of linux and minidisks (rw and ro) and the links to the gold disc from the machine ... gives the following error Mounting root /dev/dasdb1 dasd_erp(3990): 0.0.01b1: EXAMINE 24:

Re: error zipl linux clone

2009-03-02 Thread Michael O'Reilly
390 Port cc linux-...@vm.mar IST.EDU Subject error zipl linux clone

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-24 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
[mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:23 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group) Ken -- In the thread, we may have not specifically mentioned that list

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group) Richard Troth wrote: Ivan ... hear this: With SLES10, unless you are changing something about the root FS, you do not need to re-stamp your INITRD. It is exactly as you say it should

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Scott Rohling
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group) Richard Troth wrote: Ivan ... hear this: With SLES10, unless you are changing something about the root FS, you do not need to re-stamp your INITRD. It is exactly as you say it should

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
to be on a particular address is the one you boot from. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:31 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Scott Rohling
on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:31 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group) Good point.. I've always advised giving ranges

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Scott Rohling
. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:31 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group) Good point.. I've

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-23 Thread Richard Troth
, 2009 9:37 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group) Richard Troth wrote: Ivan ... hear this: With SLES10, unless you are changing something about the root FS, you do not need to re-stamp your INITRD

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-19 Thread Cornelia Huck
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:03:59 +0100, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: - IPL time ensuing from having many thousand devices (Lordy.. Issuing Sense-ID, RDC and read of cyl 0 track 1 - on 1 devices shouldn't take but a couple seconds anyway.. What's wrong here.. all modern OSes do

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: Now about Diag 250.. What's the gain ? performance ? let's face it.. CP has become very efficient at translating VM issued CCWs to real CCWs over the past 40 years or so.. When dealing with a 1.2 Mips 4341 Model 2, CP

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-19 Thread Ivan Warren
Adam Thornton wrote: Now, it *is* nice if it works under Hercules because that opens up the development community to an order of magnitude more people. This is the cause of my apparent schizophrenia whereby I'm strongly suggesting that it would be neat if Hercules learned to do the (now fully

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-19 Thread Ivan Warren
Rob van der Heij wrote: One of the neat things about Diag250 is that it supports a fast-path when the data is in MDC (the I/O complete is returned immediately, skipping the entire process of reflecting an interrupt later). Linux supports that in that you also get a quick route back there. I've

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: Rob van der Heij wrote: One of the neat things about Diag250 is that it supports a fast-path when the data is in MDC (the I/O complete is returned immediately, skipping the entire process of reflecting an interrupt

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-19 Thread Richard Troth
to the VG. In that case, you're dead meat if you didn't re-run mkinitrd and zipl. That's what I'm saying ! mkinitrd/zipl shouldn't be needed *UNLESS* you are changing something about the root fs ! Granted.. adding a PV to the VG in which the root fs LV resides also qualifies as a root fs

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-19 Thread Ivan Warren
Richard Troth wrote: Ivan ... hear this: With SLES10, unless you are changing something about the root FS, you do not need to re-stamp your INITRD. It is exactly as you say it should be. -- R; That's good enough for me ;) At least the idea that I would have gave me fodder for a tantrum

Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Ivan Warren
Mark Post wrote: You need to chroot to /mnt/sysimage before running the mkinitrd. Sorry to hop on route.. but.. I was wondering... Why on earth does one need to mkinitrd/zipl after adding a DASD volume to z/Linux ? Most (if not all) 'distributed' platforms are perfectly happy to add

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Mark Post
On 2/18/2009 at 1:58 PM, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: -snip- I was wondering... Why on earth does one need to mkinitrd/zipl after adding a DASD volume to z/Linux ? Basically, some historical, performance, and data integrity reasons. When the DASD driver initializes, particularly

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Richard Troth
I find that with SLES10, you do NOT have to mkinitrd and zipl. It will happily find the additional DASD and bring them online without needing special intelligence in the INITRD. The whole INITRD thing ... I will hold my peace for the moment. Now if you added a different KIND of DASD (if you

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Ivan Warren
the initrd seems to me like a unnecessary and superfluous step. What I am saying, is that, eventually, you're going to wind up with people running zipl/mkinitrd no matter what.. but there is *some* (minor) danger to this ! (actually, of course, it's going to be mkinitrd/zipl - in that order

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Ivan Warren
Richard Troth wrote: The whole INITRD thing ... I will hold my peace for the moment. I'm with you here.. I mean.. On 'distributed' platforms you may have.. what.. 200.. 300 different drivers.. On z.. you have what ... 15 ? A monolithic kernel would make all the sense in the world..

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Tom Duerbusch
if the fs is designed to be RO.. through the directory or maybe a CMS profile..).. and modifying the fstab.. Having to alter the initrd seems to me like a unnecessary and superfluous step. What I am saying, is that, eventually, you're going to wind up with people running zipl/mkinitrd no matter what

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread David Boyes
the kernel to ignore ranges of device numbers. That value gets stored in the boot parms, which are written out by zipl. (There's no equivalent to grub that will read a parm file at boot time.) So, if your I/O config changes, you still need to re-run zipl. Time to produce a SALIPL or DCSS

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Mark Post
On 2/18/2009 at 2:15 PM, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: I find that with SLES10, you do NOT have to mkinitrd and zipl. It will happily find the additional DASD and bring them online without needing special intelligence in the INITRD. That's going to depend on just how the DASD

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Ivan Warren
where / is an LV and you added a new volume to the VG. In that case, you're dead meat if you didn't re-run mkinitrd and zipl. That's what I'm saying ! mkinitrd/zipl shouldn't be needed *UNLESS* you are changing something about the root fs ! Granted.. adding a PV to the VG in which the root fs

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Mark Post
On 2/18/2009 at 3:03 PM, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: Why doesn't mkinitrd *ONLY* take care of the IPL volume (or volumes in you're LVM).. - as the initrd was designed - then - depending on what config is on the root fs, enable this or that volume - once control has been passed

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Ivan Warren
it. If you do it manually, you better know what you're doing, either in the setup, or the recovery effort. :) Wait ! I'm not denying that actually going through a mkinitrd/zipl cycle is a bad thing (I might have said something in the liking.. but the pros outweigh the cons here)! As you said, adding

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Mark Post
On 2/18/2009 at 3:12 PM, Ivan Warren i...@vmfacility.fr wrote: A monolithic kernel would make all the sense in the world.. and IPL directly with your root ! And would be different from how everything else is done, driving up costs, generating complaints (Why is this different from my other

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Ivan Warren
proper operations and you didn't forget something and you didn't mess up.. and don't forget to mkinitrd/zipl !' As far as the 'complaint generation', most of the complaint are driven by experience, not implementation. Most of the people do not *CARE* whether a driver is linked with the kernel or loaded

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 18, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Ivan Warren wrote: Basically, the requirement for an initrd was generated by 'distributed' systems.. Where you can stick in brand XXX variant ZZZ HBA.. but on IBM System z.. you can't do that ! And even more... Even if you were allowed to, it would have to follow

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Ivan Warren
Adam Thornton wrote: Or diag250. Sure, doesn't work on the metal. Nevertheless. Well.. Diag 250 is just a way to talk to a DASD. Whatever you do with Diag 250, you can also do with SSCH, an ORB and some CCWs... So even if Diag 250 isn't embedded in the kernel, you should still be able to

Re: Why does one need to mkinitrd/zipl ? (WAS : Broken logical volume group)

2009-02-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 18, 2009, at 9:36 PM, Ivan Warren wrote: Now about Diag 250.. What's the gain ? a) tons easier for the device driver writers. Take a look at the disk driver in OpenSolaris/z to see why I care. Now.. Simplicity ? Device independence ? well, to support LPAR, you're going to have to

zipl options

2009-02-03 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Good morning, I have just realized that I accidently deleted my initrd-xxx.img file and the system will not boot up. I did not setup any options from the zipl menu to point to another .img file .. shame on me ... Is there another way to pass the at ipl time a parm to use another initrd-.img

Re: zipl options

2009-02-03 Thread Mark Post
On 2/3/2009 at 11:22 AM, Ayer, Paul W pwa...@statestreet.com wrote: -snip- Is there another way to pass the at ipl time a parm to use another initrd-.img file? Not that I'm aware of. Booting from a rescue/installation system looks like the only way to repair this. Mark Post

Re: Redhat 5.2 zipl default configuration problem

2008-06-27 Thread Carsten Otte
Patrick Spinler wrote: I'm experiencing an issue with zipl on redhat 5.2, where it doesn't appear to create a usable default for it's boot menu. Has anyone seen anything similar? I just opened a PMR with IBM, but thought I'd ask here, also. Interresting. When reading the config file, it looks

Redhat 5.2 zipl default configuration problem

2008-06-26 Thread Patrick Spinler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi: I'm experiencing an issue with zipl on redhat 5.2, where it doesn't appear to create a usable default for it's boot menu. Has anyone seen anything similar? I just opened a PMR with IBM, but thought I'd ask here, also. I've appended lots

SLES10, mkinitrd, and zipl

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Post
One of the more common issues that have come up on this mailing list have been related to people making changes, such as adding DASD, and then not re-running mkinitrd or zipl. I opened a feature request for SLES10 SP2, to make sure that YaST takes care of this automatically. What I'm being

Re: SLES9 zipl

2007-07-09 Thread Tim Hare
to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: SLES9 zipl On Sun, Jul 8, 2007 at 5:42 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SLES9 and trying to follow the instructions in: http://linuxvm.org/present/SHARE108/S9240jb.pdf

SLES9 zipl

2007-07-08 Thread Tim Hare
SLES9 and trying to follow the instructions in: http://linuxvm.org/present/SHARE108/S9240jb.pdf To correct startup errors... When I mount /dev/dasda1 as /mnt it complains about not finding /bin/bash. When I mount /dev/dasda2 as /mnt, it works OK, but when I run /sbin/zipl it complains

Re: SLES9 zipl

2007-07-08 Thread Mark Post
/bin/bash. When I mount /dev/dasda2 as /mnt, it works OK, but when I run /sbin/zipl it complains that /boot/image doesn't exist. I did find an image file on /dev/dasda1. It sounds as though dasda1 is /boot, and dasda2 is /. If you want to run zipl, you'll need to mount dasda2 on /mnt

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