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2003-11-06 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
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Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread McKown, John
What I loved about war games was that the hacker's computer was somehow autodialling with a ACOUSTIC coupled modem. I distinctly remember seeing the handset of the phone in the acoustic modem. Oh, and the phone was PULSE dialled, not TONE dialed, to boot. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
A number of years ago I worked on a project that involved donating computers and software to police departments, so we had a lot of press coverage. The computer was an old mini that was one of the first ones without a front panel. Just a plain beige metal box with a couple of big clunky disk

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Edwin Handschuh
John: Touché'. I somehow missed that one. I do remember the acoustic coupler, but I wasn't quick enough to pick up on the tone dial and put two and two together. Its all part of the Hollywood fantasy. As one great actor said: Movies is magic. ETH ---SNIP--- autodialling with a ACOUSTIC

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread James Melin
Wasnt there somone who twiddle 'doom' so that the 'monsters' were processes and used it to manage the system? I vaguely recall hearing about that. |-+ | | Hall, Ken (IDS | | | ECCS) | | | [EMAIL

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Ryan Ware
Yes, I just ran accross this a couple of weeks back. Here be the link http://www.cs.unm.edu/~dlchao/flake/doom/ -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Perpetuating Myths about the

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 07:44, McKown, John wrote: What I loved about war games was that the hacker's computer was somehow autodialling with a ACOUSTIC coupled modem. I distinctly remember seeing the handset of the phone in the acoustic modem. Oh, and the phone was PULSE dialled, not TONE

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 08:45, James Melin wrote: Wasnt there somone who twiddle 'doom' so that the 'monsters' were processes and used it to manage the system? I vaguely recall hearing about that. Yeah. It makes process killing pretty splendidly interactive. Adam

IBM Linux webcast archive

2003-11-06 Thread Lionel Dyck
I just stumbled across this site and thought it worth sharing. The url is http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/events/callib.html To quote from the site: Teleconference Call Library Come into the library to listen to the calls you missed. We will post previously held calls for at least

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Frank Chu
for the curious - http://www.cs.unm.edu/~dlchao/flake/doom/ f At 09:10 AM 11/6/2003 -0600, you wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 08:45, James Melin wrote: Wasnt there somone who twiddle 'doom' so that the 'monsters' were processes and used it to manage the system? I vaguely recall hearing about

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 11/05/2003 at 04:53 CST, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally, everyone *knows* it's not a high-performance machine unless it's liquid-cooled. Get with the program, guys! Go check your z990 specs! It has on-board refrigeration with fan back-up. :-) (z900 may have it

Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Bruce Hayden
Ref: Your note of 6 November 2003, 12:18:28 -0500 (attached) The z900 does also, and the G6. I'm not sure about the G5.. The z800 is all air cooled. (My lawnmower is liquid cooled. Does that mean it is high performance too? ;-) Bruce Hayden IBM Global Services -

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 11/06/2003 at 12:22 EST, Bruce Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The z900 does also, and the G6. I'm not sure about the G5.. The z800 is all air cooled. (My lawnmower is liquid cooled. Does that mean it is high performance too? ;-) I've seen your lawnmower. That would be a

It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....

2003-11-06 Thread James Melin
http://www.penguicon.org/index.php?p=General_Info.html

Re: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....

2003-11-06 Thread Post, Mark K
I'm not sure why you think this is anything new. I'm pretty sure this is how LinuxWorld, the Atlanta conference, etc., got started. The commingling of Linux and Science Fiction is a bit of a twist, but not much of one. Since this is only about a 30 minute drive from where I live, I might have to

Re: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....

2003-11-06 Thread Jay Maynard
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 12:21:42PM -0600, James Melin wrote: http://www.penguicon.org/index.php?p=General_Info.html I went to the first one, and while it was a bit disorganized, it was an absolute blast. If I can swing it, I'll be back to the second one.

Re: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....

2003-11-06 Thread Post, Mark K
Jay, If you do, let me know so we can hook up again. I'm really sorry I missed the first one. I would have loved to meet Terry Pratchett. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Jay Maynard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....

2003-11-06 Thread James Melin
My wife has had the pleasure of talking shop with Terry Pratchett at worldcon for like 6 hours over the course of one convention. Has even been on a couple panels with him. He's marvelous. |-+ | | Post, Mark K | | |

ZDNet Article: Is Novell-SuSE deal a brilliant Big Blue power pla y?

2003-11-06 Thread Post, Mark K
An interesting article regarding the possible brokering of the Novell/SUSE deal by IBM as a means to short-circuit SCO's lawsuit against IBM. http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/novell_suse.html The reason the article is interesting is explained in part by another article that

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Jim Sibley
Well, IBM has painted the zSeries black, put a cool copper reflective strip on it, and changed the door locks! The external cables are orange for ESCON and bright yellow for FICON. The only problem is that they now look exactly like the new pSeries boxes! = Jim Sibley Implementor of Linux on

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Okay, now add a slave display from the Service Element to the front door, and put up a cool screensaver, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED], and you've got something. Besides, it would give the operator/technician something to look at when things go wrong, so he doesn't have to open the back door.

Re: SCO Attacks Open Source License

2003-11-06 Thread Jim Sibley
Romney wrote: On behalf of all Canadians, ... We're all sorry. Really. And keep your head up, especially on the ice. Hear, Hear, to the Canadians - at least they're the world Rock, Paper, Scissor Champs of the world. http://www.rpschamps.com/media.html = Jim Sibley Implementor of Linux on

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine Hmm.. What I loved about the film, was the kid's computer. It was supposed to be an S-100 based unit, one of the IMSAI jobs. And naturally the modem as well. Come to think of it, that annoying habit of dialing for modems, started around then. But your right John.

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Jay Maynard
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:00:27PM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote: Hmm.. What I loved about the film, was the kid's computer. It was supposed to be an S-100 based unit, one of the IMSAI jobs. And naturally the modem as well. Smile when you say that, pardner...my first computer (which I still own)

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 19:53, Jim Sibley wrote: The only problem is that they now look exactly like the new pSeries boxes! A few tri-color fans and some neon tubes should fit in any budget for a new zSeries machine. Anyone ready for a web site devoted to zSeries casemodding then? ;-) The first

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine And why wouldn't I? Thank you for bringing that up. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Force will be with you...Always. Obi-Wan Kenobi Use the Force, Luke.  Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread David Boyes
Finally, everyone *knows* it's not a high-performance machine unless it's liquid-cooled. Get with the program, guys! Go check your z990 specs! It has on-board refrigeration with fan back-up. :-) (z900 may have it , too...i don't remember) Yeah, but you don't get a neat clear panel so

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread David Boyes
How about George Madl's new mower? Given his grief with it, it *better* perform, as well as make julienne fries...8-) -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates The z900 does also, and the G6. I'm not sure about the G5.. The z800 is all air cooled. (My lawnmower is liquid cooled. Does

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 13:03, Rob van der Heij wrote: A few tri-color fans and some neon tubes should fit in any budget for a new zSeries machine. Anyone ready for a web site devoted to zSeries casemodding then? ;-) The first S/390 casemod that I know of was done by Gary who put a see-through

OT: RE: It had to happen eventually. Though I'm not sure why....

2003-11-06 Thread David Boyes
OK, I gotta say it: Take them to Detroit! (*evil laugh*) -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates (obscure reference: see Kentucky Fried Movie if you want to Fully Understand (tm).) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Post, Mark K Mark

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 13:57, Rob van der Heij wrote: [Yelling] Adam! David is after your cough syrup again! Too late, I think. Adam

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread James Melin
I have a gutted G-3 in my garage. Anyone want the CF cards? Or the power supply parts? I use it as a toolbox, so I really LIKE the old door locks. Means some schmoe wont be able to figure out how to get into it if they break in the garage |-+ | |

Re: Crypto and IFL

2003-11-06 Thread McKown, John
The z800 comes with two crypto engines built in. I haven't tried to use them on Linux or z/VM on the IFL yet. I have done some work with them on my test z/OS 1.4 system. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message

Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see anything after a command is run

2003-11-06 Thread James Melin
I am trying to re-direct output from tar - the whole list of what it's archiving to a file so I don't see it on my terminal session. I've tried variations of tar -cvzf $HOME/hawkweb.tar /it 21 /u/sy4080/tarmessages.txt but I still get teh huge spew and nothing in the file. What did I not

Re: Brain fart - redirect stderr/std out to a file and NOT see an ything after a command is run

2003-11-06 Thread McKown, John
James, That doesn't work. Why? First, the shell redirects STDERR to *the current STDOUT destination*, you then redirect STDOUT. Try: tar -cvzf $HOME/hawkweb.tar /it /u/sy4080/tarmessages.txt 21 -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team

Bug in Hercules 3.00 RPM distributions

2003-11-06 Thread Jay Maynard
The RPM binary distributions of Hercules 3.00 have a problem and should not be used. The RPMs were built with gcc 2.96 on Red Hat 7.2, and have been affected by an optimizer bug that causes the result of the SRA instruction (and possibly others) to set the condition code incorrectly. This problem

Re: Perpetuating Myths about the zSeries

2003-11-06 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine It's a thought. Yes, sounds like an interesting idea. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Force will be with you...Always. Obi-Wan Kenobi Use the Force, Luke.  Obi-Wan Kenobi (This

Re: Crypto and IFL

2003-11-06 Thread Richard W. Lauck, Cornerstone Systems, Inc.
The PCICC is the Crypto Coprocessor and the PCICA is the Crypto Accelerator which is faster and made for the demands of SSL encryption. SSL will still work with PCICC but not as fast. Richard W. Lauck Cornerstone Systems, Inc. Sr. Systems Programmer IBM Certified S/390 Parallel Sysplex

Can I use VTS under Linux/390?

2003-11-06 Thread Jae-hwa Park
Hi, We have a VTS(3494-B18). How can I access and use this VTS under Linux/390? Should I setup DFSMS on z/VM first? Regards, Jae-hwa -- Jae-hwa Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE CHALLENGES, that's why I choose LINUX!!! For more information on me, visit http://php.sarang.net