[OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Ilan Finci
on 11/13/2003 05:07 PM Matan Ziv-Av said the following: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Ilan Finci wrote: The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential clients to test. The code comes as either an executable or a shared library (with a given API the client use to connect it to

Re: A good Linux advocacy read

2003-11-16 Thread meorero
Indeed! that's a really good Linux advocacy. Now we need an Israeli version of such a document ... Only an Institutional effort can bring such a huge document. Is it one of the goals of the project Mimshal Zamin ?? Oren Maurer

Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ilan Finci wrote: on 11/13/2003 05:07 PM Matan Ziv-Av said the following: This is off topic, as has already been said, but I must add that if the company tries to hide a patented algorithm, the best thing to do is to dissolve the company immediately. Sorry if you see it off topic, I thought

Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003, Ilan Finci wrote about [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]: And as to dissolve the company - why? Can we protect _OUR_ algorithms??? we don't use OTHERS patented algorithms but _OURS_. Check out your favorite dictionary or encyclopedia what a patent means, or

Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 16 November 2003 10:20, Ilan Finci wrote: on 11/13/2003 05:07 PM Matan Ziv-Av said the following: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Ilan Finci wrote: The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential clients to test. The code comes as either an executable or a shared

Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ilan Finci [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 11/13/2003 05:07 PM Matan Ziv-Av said the following: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Ilan Finci wrote: The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential clients to test. The code comes as either an executable or a shared library

Re: xterm and hebrew

2003-11-16 Thread Kfir Lavi
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 09:57:23PM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote: Hi, I have vfat file system that i mount with utf8 and it works good with mozilla ( i see hebrew ). use uxterm If you ever need to see output in a non-unicode charset use luit running

Re: kmail configuration question

2003-11-16 Thread Oded Arbel
Saturday 15 November 2003 21:26, : Since I am working on a loptop with only 14 screen its much more efficient to go over the headers list and only open the messages I actually want to read (its also more secure this way and faster for imap connections). For that you can install a small

Re: kmail configuration question

2003-11-16 Thread Diego Iastrubni
, 13 2003, 21:13,Micha Feigin: Since I am working on a loptop with only 14 screen its much more efficient to go over the headers list and only open the messages I actually want to read (its also more secure this way and faster for imap connections). about secure I dont think you are

Re: xterm and hebrew

2003-11-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 02:17:53AM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote: Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 09:57:23PM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote: Hi, I have vfat file system that i mount with utf8 and it works good with mozilla ( i see hebrew ). use uxterm If you ever need to

[REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Omer Zak
Actually, Ilan has a point here. 1. His salesmanship skills could use a small upgrade - by presenting the argument of avoiding MS-Windows in the first place, he'd get more cooperation than flames. 2. If Linus allows use of closed code Kernel modules with Linux and they probably are

Re: xterm and hebrew

2003-11-16 Thread Oded Arbel
16 2003, 12:13,Tzafrir Cohen: You can use mlterm, xiterm (xterm with Sun's i18n code), konsole or gnome-terminal if you want bidi support. mlterm has a useful feature of being able to disable the bidi support. Also Konsole, and it has/will have gui configuration for it in 3.2. --

Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Omer Zak wrote: Actually, Ilan has a point here. 1. His salesmanship skills could use a small upgrade - by presenting the argument of avoiding MS-Windows in the first place, he'd get more cooperation than flames. 2. If Linus allows use of closed code Kernel modules with Linux and they

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Offtopicness metadiscussion - was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Omer Zak
I changed the Subject line to emphasize the point which I tried to make. There were actually three separate issues: 1. Is it on-topic to ask about obfuscating code meant to run under Linux? 2. Is it wise to obfuscate code meant to run under Linux? 3. How to actually obfuscate code meant to run

Re: protecting one's IP

2003-11-16 Thread shtirlitz
Quoting Ilan Finci [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, The company I work with is creating executable code we give to potential clients to test. The are 2 methods that I am thinking right now. One method is is to use some external plugin, like the one from Aladin. You can just encrypt your library.

[OT] OSS lint-type static checker?

2003-11-16 Thread Tal, Shachar
Hi all, Anyone can recommend or warn against usage of a (preferably Open Source, otherwise customizable) lint-like tool, for static checking of C++ and/or C# code? Thanks, Shachar Tal Verint Systems This electronic message contains information from Verint Systems, which may be privileged and

Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:51, Omer Zak wrote: Actually, Ilan has a point here. 1. His salesmanship skills could use a small upgrade - by presenting the argument of avoiding MS-Windows in the first place, he'd get more cooperation than flames. I don't think so. I couldn't care less

Re: [OT] OSS lint-type static checker?

2003-11-16 Thread linux-il
Me and a friend have looked such a thing up and down the net for quite a while but so far haven't found anything. The only thing we found that gives such a funcionality is PC-Lint for windows, which is proprietary (and saved my previous workplace its money's worth tenfold in amount of work time).

Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-16 Thread Omer Zak
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:51, Omer Zak wrote: [... snipped ...] 2. If Linus allows use of closed code Kernel modules with Linux and they probably are obfuscation champions of the Linux world, then Ilan should be entitled to ask about the

Re: [OT] OSS lint-type static checker?

2003-11-16 Thread Oded Arbel
16 2003, 15:42,[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone can recommend or warn against usage of a (preferably Open Source, otherwise customizable) lint-like tool, for static checking of C++ and/or C# code? -- Oded ::.. Shai-hulud is a good garbage collector [..] -- F. Herbert (Children of

Re: [OT] OSS lint-type static checker?

2003-11-16 Thread Oded Arbel
16 2003, 15:42,[EMAIL PROTECTED]: So take this response and one negative-ack. I'd be glad to hear otherwise. Anyone can recommend or warn against usage of a (preferably Open Source, otherwise customizable) lint-like tool, for static checking of C++ and/or C# code? Me and a friend

Re: [OT] OSS lint-type static checker?

2003-11-16 Thread linux-il
Hmm, thanks for the pointer. Still costs a fortune, but at least there is something available if we'll really need it. The valgrind stuff seems to address a completly different set of programming errors, I don't think it can completly replace static source code analysis. Oded Arbel wrote: 16

MDK 9.2

2003-11-16 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Has anyone on the list installed/upgraded to MDK 9.2? If so, any comments, problems, suggestions? TIA -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.1) on LINUX Mandrake 9.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to

Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]Re: protecting one's IP [CLOSED TOPIC]

2003-11-16 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sunday 16 November 2003 15:35, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:51, Omer Zak wrote: Actually, Ilan has a point here. 1. His salesmanship skills could use a small upgrade - by presenting the argument of avoiding MS-Windows in the first place, he'd get more

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-16 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sunday 16 November 2003 16:38, Omer Zak wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:51, Omer Zak wrote: [... snipped ...] 2. If Linus allows use of closed code Kernel modules with Linux and they probably are obfuscation champions of the Linux

Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-16 Thread Oded Arbel
16 2003, 18:45,Shlomo Solomon: Has anyone on the list installed/upgraded to MDK 9.2? If so, any comments, problems, suggestions? I've put it on my laptop. works fine. LVM support in DiskDrake (had it on 9.1, but it had some problems. now it works). good power managment, ACPI finally

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Micha Feigin wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 16:38, Omer Zak wrote: I don't think the question was stupid. If anyone earned the 'stupid' label in this story it is those managers, who caused the need for the question in the first place. This is because I learned some things from the

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-16 Thread Oron Peled
On Sunday 16 November 2003 19:46, Micha Feigin wrote: Allowing binary only modules has its advantages ... ... This approach opens up the chance for more hardware support for linux... This is very shortsighted point of view. If most of the Linux developers would think so, we could have in a few

Re: [OT] OSS lint-type static checker?

2003-11-16 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Tal, Shachar wrote: Hi all, Anyone can recommend or warn against usage of a (preferably Open Source, otherwise customizable) lint-like tool, for static checking of C++ and/or C# code? There's Splint: http://www.splint.org/ It is useful for C and C++. I tried it and

Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-16 Thread Dovix
I use 9.2 for over a month. Overall, it feels more robust than 9.1. I no longer experience any freezes, crashes etc. There are no major new features, but the increased stability and maturity is a great bonus. If you have LG CD-ROM, make sure you read the errata linked from Mandrake's site and

A site full of M$ alternatives

2003-11-16 Thread Erez Boym
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Debian BTS

2003-11-16 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Does anyone know what the backend of the Debian Bug Tracking System (http://bugs.debuan.org) is? For some reason I cannot find this out, though I am pretty sure it must be OSS ;-) -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To

Re: [OT] OSS lint-type static checker?

2003-11-16 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Tal, Shachar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone can recommend or warn against usage of a (preferably Open Source, otherwise customizable) lint-like tool, for static checking of C++ and/or C# code? I found out from experience that switching all sorts of warnings and checks in gcc/g++ will take

Re: Debian BTS

2003-11-16 Thread Lior Kaplan
Did you try to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Or check http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/ ? Good luck. I'd like to hear the answer to your question. Regards, Lior Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Guides.co.il Come to write at the forums: http://www.guides.co.il/forums - Original Message

Re: Fw: What's wrong with this code?

2003-11-16 Thread Guy Teverovsky
Reminder: to master the art of distinguishing between Reply and Reply to all Guy On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 10:46, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Now, what would have happend if this was a run of the mill closed source security firm? Closed source firms rarely use CVS (if ever). Big projects usually

Re: Linux-IL Plone

2003-11-16 Thread Yishay Mor
Thanks, but I have to place the compliment where its due: this is Plone out of the box. I didn't even install (objectis is a hosting service). So, I don't deserve much credit yet. But I have added a few content areas, and hopefully the content will grow. I've configured it (I think...) so that

Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 11:22:56AM -0800, Dovix wrote: I use 9.2 for over a month. Overall, it feels more robust than 9.1. I no longer experience any freezes, crashes etc. There are no major new features, but the increased stability and maturity is a great bonus. If you have LG CD-ROM, make

Re: MDK 9.2

2003-11-16 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Monday 17 November 2003 03:34, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 11:22:56AM -0800, Dovix wrote: I use 9.2 for over a month. Overall, it feels more robust than 9.1. I no longer experience any freezes, crashes etc. There are no major new features, but the increased stability

Re: Kernel Modules Legal Status (was: Re: [REOPENED TOPIC] Re: [OT???]...

2003-11-16 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 09:11:08PM +0200, Oron Peled wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 19:46, Micha Feigin wrote: Allowing binary only modules has its advantages ... ... This approach opens up the chance for more hardware support for linux... This is very shortsighted point of view. If

Re: Debian BTS

2003-11-16 Thread Baruch Even
* Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031117 00:09]: Does anyone know what the backend of the Debian Bug Tracking System (http://bugs.debuan.org) is? For some reason I cannot find this out, though I am pretty sure it must be OSS ;-) The application is called debbugs: $ apt-cache show debbugs

Re: Fw: What's wrong with this code?

2003-11-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Guy Teverovsky wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 10:46, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Now, what would have happend if this was a run of the mill closed source security firm? Closed source firms rarely use CVS (if ever). Hmm - you must have better info about closed source companies than I do.

RE: Fw: What's wrong with this code?

2003-11-16 Thread Tal, Shachar
-Original Message- From: Shachar Shemesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:51 AM To: Guy Teverovsky Cc: Linux-IL mailing list Subject: Re: Fw: What's wrong with this code? Guy Teverovsky wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 10:46, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:

Re: Fw: What's wrong with this code?

2003-11-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Tal, Shachar wrote: While agreeing with most of your post, I can testify to previously working for a company with a state-of-the-art ClearCase implementation. Each RD team has it's own branch to work on, and only the integration team merged files from these branches to our /main branch. Would you

RE: Fw: What's wrong with this code?

2003-11-16 Thread Tal, Shachar
-Original Message- From: Shachar Shemesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 8:38 AM To: Tal, Shachar Cc: Guy Teverovsky; Linux-IL mailing list Subject: Re: Fw: What's wrong with this code? Tal, Shachar wrote: While agreeing with most of your post, I