On 11 May 2010 07:53, mivzakim.net linux...@mivzakim.net wrote:
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure, here's my list from my Ford. It's a Focus, though, not a Fiesta:
Dude, that's [sadly?[ one of the most hilarious texts I've read in my life!
:)
God
Hi Elazar,
Another problem I have been experiencing for the past 3 major Ubuntu
distributions (8.*, 9.*, 10.04, 64 bit OS on a 64 bit dual core) is that the
X becomes extremely slow after a major operation (such as running
heavy-memory Matlab scripts, or even an ad with sound on walla's weather
I am not an Ubuntu user, but this thread seems to me a good
opportunity to find out on the cheap whether certain preconceptions
have a reason.
Somehow I got an idea in my head (marketing must work, probably in
mysterious ways) that Ubuntu is a distro explicitly designed for every
non-techie Tom,
Keep in mind that a programmer can also be your average non-techie Joe who
learned how to program with Visual Studio/Eclipse. This is the case for some
people in my team. They rarely know what's going behind the curtains of
Visual Studio.
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Oleg Goldshmidt
Not at all!
Google for Microsoft SDL, it was not always the case, but nowadays they
have excellent security awareness.
For example, see evidence for the change here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/david_leblanc/archive/2010/04/16/don-t-use-office-rc4-encryption-really-just-don-t-do-it.aspx
On Mon, May 10,
Hi Oleg
When trying to use my Ubuntu for development, I ran into dependency
troubles. I needed Eclipse, I had to manually install several java-related
packages, the java compilers clashed (something by IBM came with eclipse, it
was unable to compile the library I needed to hack (lucene) with it,
2010/5/11 Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com
Actually I once have had an Ubuntu at home and it did not give me any
trouble. I'm looking for a distribution for my workplace to 4 developers
seats with minimal maintainance needs. After we'll install a distribution
we're unlikely to change it,
On May 11, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote:
Another problem I have been experiencing for the past 3 major Ubuntu
distributions (8.*, 9.*, 10.04, 64 bit OS on a 64 bit dual core) is
that the X becomes extremely slow after a major operation (such as
running heavy-memory
On 11 May 2010 13:46, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
I am not an Ubuntu user, but this thread seems to me a good
opportunity to find out on the cheap whether certain preconceptions
have a reason.
Somehow I got an idea in my head (marketing must work, probably in
mysterious ways)
2010/5/11 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.com:
Hi Oleg
When trying to use my Ubuntu for development, I ran into dependency
troubles. I needed Eclipse, I had to manually install several java-related
packages, the java compilers clashed (something by IBM came with eclipse, it
was unable to
On May 11, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Ubuntu packages three Javas, but only the Sun Java has any worth. The
other two only serve to mess up Sun Java installs. Stay away from
them.
Ouch, that brings back another UBUNTU problem. It does not install
Java (are most programs) in
On 11 May 2010 22:01, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 11, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Ubuntu packages three Javas, but only the Sun Java has any worth. The
other two only serve to mess up Sun Java installs. Stay away from
them.
Ouch, that brings
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:01 PM, geoffrey mendelson
geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:
Ouch, that brings back another UBUNTU problem. It does not install Java (are
most programs) in /usr/bin. It installs them in /usr/bin under another name,
or eleswhere. Then it links /etc/alternatives/name to
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 04:08 -0700, Elazar Leibovich wrote:
Not at all!
Google for Microsoft SDL, it was not always the case, but nowadays
they have excellent security awareness.
For example, see evidence for the change here:
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com wrote:
Keep in mind that a programmer can also be your average non-techie Joe who
learned how to program with Visual Studio/Eclipse. This is the case for some
people in my team. They rarely know what's going behind the curtains
I'd probably give bonus points to a distro that allows you to check a
Development box at install time.
Fedora had that back when it was called Fedora Core, but I haven't
used it since then.
--
Dotan Cohen
http://bido.com
http://what-is-what.com
On Tuesday 11 May 2010 16:04:29 Amos Shapira wrote:
On 11 May 2010 22:01, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com
wrote:
On May 11, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Ubuntu packages three Javas, but only the Sun Java has any worth. The
other two only serve to mess up Sun Java
Why do you think that MS believe in security by obscurity? I believe that
security problems in MS products are generally speaking being released to
the wild.
Why I think MS products has better chance to be secure than your local Joe
Software shop, because they're having strict policies which are
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 20:23 +0300, Elazar Leibovich wrote:
Why do you think that MS believe in security by obscurity? I believe
that security problems in MS products are generally speaking being
released to the wild.
Why I think MS products has better chance to be secure than your local
Joe
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 19:54 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
I'd probably give bonus points to a distro that allows you to check a
Development box at install time.
Fedora had that back when it was called Fedora Core, but I haven't
used it since then.
Fedora still has it. (Development tools
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 10:42 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
On 11 May 2010 07:53, mivzakim.net linux...@mivzakim.net wrote:
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure, here's my list from my Ford. It's a Focus, though, not a Fiesta:
Dude, that's [sadly?[ one
Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il writes:
Later on, when I worked on Fedora, I was able to install Postfix as
well as sendmail (the Fedora default) because I could play with the
symlinks in /etc/alternatives and other places.
Today you don't need to play with anything:
$ cat
Yes, every word of it. You don't want to see my list of problems with my
N-95!
(Or KDE :))
- Gilboa subscribed to a number of your BZ reports Davara.
That list is 1300 bugs long, and I've got about another 400 left to file!
--
Dotan Cohen
http://bido.com
http://what-is-what.com
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 08:53:46PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 19:54 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
I'd probably give bonus points to a distro that allows you to check a
Development box at install time.
Fedora had that back when it was called Fedora Core, but I
I guess we'll stay divided, but still, for the sake of the completion I want
to clarify my argument.
My point is, that some security decisions (for example, the Tuesday patch
you mentioned), even if they are very wrong (and obviously, MS security guys
would beg to differ) doesn't play a very big
On Tue, 11 May 2010 04:08:39 -0700
Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com wrote:
Not at all!
Google for Microsoft SDL, it was not always the case, but nowadays they
have excellent security awareness.
For example, see evidence for the change here:
On Tue, 11 May 2010 23:50:49 +0300
Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess we'll stay divided, but still, for the sake of the completion I want
to clarify my argument.
My point is, that some security decisions (for example, the Tuesday patch
you mentioned), even if they are very
I left windows on my last remaining because I got tired of having to wait
hours for the virus scans every time I turned on the machine. True that was
with XP, but a company that thrives on market domination, corruption to
accomplish said domination, and is known to have bugs around for years, is
I think you have to make a distinction between older MS software (such as
XP) and newer ones (such as 7). For example you defenitely don't run as
administrator in Windows 7, and you've got a built-in sudo like system.
I, like some people who replied, had bad experience managing Windows
machines,
This is a very disturbing problem, and actually it sounds as a dealbreaker.
I assume you did not find a workaround, but did you find some other
documentation to the problem on Launchpad/Xorg issue tracker/blogs?
Thanks for the valuable input!
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Orna Agmon
2010/5/12 Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com
I think you have to make a distinction between older MS software (such as
XP) and newer ones (such as 7). For example you defenitely don't run as
administrator in Windows 7, and you've got a built-in sudo like system.
I, like some people who
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 20:16 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 08:53:46PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 19:54 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
I'd probably give bonus points to a distro that allows you to check a
Development box at install time.
On May 12, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Though, I doubt that the OP will care if he's installing Linux from a
single LiveCD or from an installation DVD. (I would assume that if
he's
talking about multiple machines, the DVD version will be far less
bandwidth hog)
Actually it
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote:
On Tuesday 11 May 2010 16:04:29 Amos Shapira wrote:
On 11 May 2010 22:01, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com
wrote:
On May 11, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Ubuntu packages three Javas, but only
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