Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-03-19 Thread Rami Rosen
Hello, It is the most compressed out of all the audio codecs As a matter of fact and as far as I know, the G.729 codec and G.729A codec are more compressed than gsm. (It could be that it is not supported by twinkle or other clients, I don't know ) See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.729

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-03-19 Thread Amos Shapira
Yes I'm very interested though I haven't got around to get my asterisk working for me, and family say that for now they are happy with skype so I don't need the Isareli number. Thanks for the update. On 3/19/09, Ori Berger linux...@orib.net wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: BTW - About Israeli DID's

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-03-18 Thread Ori Berger
Amos Shapira wrote: BTW - About Israeli DID's - I just received an ad from Gizmo5 (I probably registered with them a while ago) advertising their new free SIP-to-Skype gateway. So I went to their web site and found that they offer a callin number for $12/3-months or $35/12-months, which is very

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-27 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:47:15AM +0200, sara fink wrote: In twinkle, try to use audio codec gsm. It is the most compressed out of all the audio codecs. I also have a ekiga account and want to try it with twinkle. If you have problems of bandwidth, then gsm should help. In most cases 128kbps

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-26 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/26 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:21:54PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: Why do you think OpenVZ might be better? Does it have a known advantage in Asterisk hosting? Because your provider may be able to provide you basically the same resources for less

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 08:32:51PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/26 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:21:54PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: Why do you think OpenVZ might be better? Does it have a known advantage in Asterisk hosting? Because your

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:21:54PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/26 Ori Berger linux...@orib.net: Some information that may be useful if anyone is still interested: Thanks for the info. - I can recommend grnvoip's termination service: They have good routes, good rates, competent

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-26 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/26 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: But I'm actually stuck at a more basic stage - I can't get incoming audio on any of the software SIP clients I tried on my Ubuntu (8.10, i386). I tried Twinkle (recommended here for its better logging), Ekiga and Gizmo. Let's start with

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:45:28PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/26 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: But I'm actually stuck at a more basic stage - I can't get incoming audio on any of the software SIP clients I tried on my Ubuntu (8.10, i386). I tried Twinkle (recommended here for

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-26 Thread Ori Berger
Amos Shapira wrote: Googl'ing for asterisk hosting provider Lylix.net indeed comes up near the top and seem to be asterisk-centric but their cheapest plan of AsteriskNow is $35/month. No competition for the $8/month from VPSLink. They do have a non-managed $15/month plan (that still includes

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-26 Thread Ori Berger
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: You mean in case that the hosting provider provides the necessary kernel modules in OpenVZ? Kernel modules? What kernel modules? :-) (See the second part. Well, maybe this is more for future installations than for now) Well, following Tzafrir's lead, I've just

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-26 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/26 Ori Berger linux...@orib.net: OpenVZ consumes less resources. Hence you can use more instances per server. Hence it costs less. VPSLink seem to price them the same. Most others don't from my previous searches. Tzafrir, do you know of any OpenVZ provider that charges something

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-26 Thread sara fink
In twinkle, try to use audio codec gsm. It is the most compressed out of all the audio codecs. I also have a ekiga account and want to try it with twinkle. If you have problems of bandwidth, then gsm should help. In most cases 128kbps upload is very problematic. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM,

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-25 Thread Ori Berger
Some information that may be useful if anyone is still interested: - I can recommend grnvoip's termination service: They have good routes, good rates, competent technical support. They do not officially support IAX2 termination (only SIP and H323), but they will provide it if asked

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-25 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/26 Ori Berger linux...@orib.net: Some information that may be useful if anyone is still interested: Thanks for the info. - I can recommend grnvoip's termination service: They have good routes, good rates, competent technical support. They do not officially support IAX2 termination

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:21:54PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: Why do you think OpenVZ might be better? Does it have a known advantage in Asterisk hosting? Because your provider may be able to provide you basically the same resources for less money. So if OpenVZ is good enough for you: fine.

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 08:05:06AM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/14 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 01:54:53PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: I saw somewhere that the Xen hosts provided by VPSLink already have 1000HTz clocks on them, saving a kernel

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-14 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/14 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 08:05:06AM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/14 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 01:54:53PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: I saw somewhere that the Xen hosts provided by VPSLink already have

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-14 Thread Amos Shapira
BTW - About Israeli DID's - I just received an ad from Gizmo5 (I probably registered with them a while ago) advertising their new free SIP-to-Skype gateway. So I went to their web site and found that they offer a callin number for $12/3-months or $35/12-months, which is very close to the lost 077

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-14 Thread Ori Berger
Amos Shapira wrote: which is very close to the lost 077 numbers for $3/month with DIDWW. These are 03 numbers (http://gizmo5.com/pc/network/callin-numbers/). FWIW, I asked DIDWW about the disappearing numbers (03 numbers are not there either at this moment), and they replied both 077 and 03

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 09:04:08PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/14 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 08:05:06AM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/14 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 01:54:53PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: I saw

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 01:54:53PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/13 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: As I think I have mentioned before, I'm not sure how well it works under Xen. E.g. http://wiki.vpslink.com/Compiling_ztdummy_on_Xen has a considerable ammount of unneeded voodoo.

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 02:01:26PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/13 Ori Berger linux...@orib.net: Does that include the zaptel ztdummy server required for MeetMe and MusicOnHold? I couldn't get it to work; I don't really need it either, but it would be nice to have. I compiled the

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-13 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/14 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 01:54:53PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: I saw somewhere that the Xen hosts provided by VPSLink already have 1000HTz clocks on them, saving a kernel recompilation. But is it actually 1000Hz? How can you tell without access

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-13 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/14 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 02:01:26PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/13 Ori Berger linux...@orib.net: Does that include the zaptel ztdummy server required for MeetMe and MusicOnHold? I couldn't get it to work; I don't really need it either, but

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-12 Thread Amos Shapira
OK, So I've setup CentOS 5.2 on Xen VPS at VPSLink, compiled latest Asterisk (1.4.23) very smoothly according to the instructions at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+Asterisk+1.4.x+installation up to and including the asterisk -...vvvc and stop now. Also installed the rest of

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-12 Thread Arik Baratz
2009/2/12 Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com: How do I test this? Write an extensions file and use http://www.didww.com/service_did.php to test DIDs for free. I have a Nokia E71 with a built-in SIP client which I'd like to connect to this thing. Set up the credentials in sip.conf and

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:04:07PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: I have a Nokia E71 with a built-in SIP client which I'd like to connect to this thing. The easiest way to test it is to use a computer with a SIP client. Then you have access to network debugging tools, etc. From Windows and Mac

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-12 Thread Ori Berger
Amos Shapira wrote: OK, So I've setup CentOS 5.2 on Xen VPS at VPSLink, compiled latest Asterisk (1.4.23) very smoothly according to the instructions at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+Asterisk+1.4.x+installation up to and including the asterisk -...vvvc and stop now. Also

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 06:15:50PM +0200, Ori Berger wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: OK, So I've setup CentOS 5.2 on Xen VPS at VPSLink, compiled latest Asterisk (1.4.23) very smoothly according to the instructions at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+Asterisk+1.4.x+installation up

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-12 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/13 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: As I think I have mentioned before, I'm not sure how well it works under Xen. E.g. http://wiki.vpslink.com/Compiling_ztdummy_on_Xen has a considerable ammount of unneeded voodoo. The basic thing they do there is to use the internal timing intead

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-12 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/13 Ori Berger linux...@orib.net: Does that include the zaptel ztdummy server required for MeetMe and MusicOnHold? I couldn't get it to work; I don't really need it either, but it would be nice to have. I compiled the zaptel package without a problem but didn't install it. Lylix.net

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-11 Thread Ohad Levy
I've been using Asterisk for the last 4 years. Never had a reason to move to Freeswitch. Asterisk rarely crash, (we have more than 15M minutes) If you like perl so much (or any language for that matter) you could configure Asterisk dialplan using a script instead of asterisk regular dialplans...

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-11 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/11 Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com: I've been using Asterisk for the last 4 years. Never had a reason to move to Freeswitch. Asterisk rarely crash, (we have more than 15M minutes) Thanks very much for your input. rarely crashes sounds a bit wacky but 15 million minutes is impressive. I

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-11 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/11 Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com: I've been using Asterisk for the last 4 years. Never had a reason to move to Freeswitch. Asterisk rarely crash, (we have more than 15M minutes) Asterisk runs Codefidence IPBX for more then 5 years. Never seen a crash.

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-11 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/11 Gilad Ben-Yossef gi...@codefidence.com: I and others can go on. Asterisk works. I donno about the other stuff Thanks for the testimonial. (FreePBX etc.) but Asterisk is prodction level system *If you know what you FreePBX claims to be a nice web gui for Asterisk, that's why I asked

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-11 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/11 Gilad Ben-Yossef gi...@codefidence.com: I and others can go on. Asterisk works. I donno about the other stuff Thanks for the testimonial. (FreePBX etc.) but Asterisk is prodction level system *If you know what you FreePBX claims to be a nice

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-11 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Is 200ms ping time too much for SIP, or is it irrelevant. Very relevant. Callers usually notice roundtrip voice delays of 250ms or more.The recommendation for VoIP is a one way delay of less then 150ms. Anything more will become very noticeable in conversation and

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-11 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:38:39PM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: In your case, 200ms round trip time, assuming a symmetric distribution, of delay (but mind you that the internet isn't really symmetrical...) is 100ms one way delay so this is not excellent but not really bad either. In theory,

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-11 Thread Geoff Shang
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Amos Shapira wrote: Is 200ms ping time too much for SIP, or is it irrelevant. Very relevant. Callers usually notice roundtrip voice delays of 250ms or more.The recommendation for VoIP is a one way delay of less then 150ms. Anything more will become very noticeable

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-11 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/11 Geoffrey S. Mendelson g...@mendelson.com: So while peak latency would be better a metric, IMHO ping time is a decent average. Thanks Geoff and Aviram for the replies and pointers. I'll try to see how I measure the latency (maybe iperf?). Cheers, --Amos

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:21:20PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: 2009/2/11 Gilad Ben-Yossef gi...@codefidence.com: I and others can go on. Asterisk works. I donno about the other stuff Thanks for the testimonial. (FreePBX etc.) but Asterisk is prodction level system *If you know what you

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 03:44:14PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: I have yet to take up Arik Baratz on his generous offer to help me setup my own Asterisk server, but in the meantime I learne a couple of things: 1. Amazon EC2 might contain surprises in the bill. I'm saying this VERY cautiously

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-10 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/10 Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il: FreeSwitch developers have many bad words regarding Asterisk. So many of them are unfounded (or no longer founded) that I generally distrust them. This guy claims to be within the first tier of Asterisk commiters and to know its code through and

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-09 Thread Amos Shapira
I have yet to take up Arik Baratz on his generous offer to help me setup my own Asterisk server, but in the meantime I learne a couple of things: 1. Amazon EC2 might contain surprises in the bill. I'm saying this VERY cautiously based on one test server we had for a few days with lots of disk

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-02-05 Thread Amos Shapira
(I contacted several people off list for personal requests, I'm moving the discussion back on-list because I think I saw interest in it expressed before). Someone basically said I'll help you if you get yourself a server. I like to keep costs down, I like highly-available servers (doing this 24/7

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-01-31 Thread ik
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Ori Berger linux...@orib.net wrote: Least year, there was a thread discussing set up of an asterisk system, which included a description by Arik Baratz (see e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg52213.html and

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-01-31 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:49:34PM -0500, Ori Berger wrote: Least year, there was a thread discussing set up of an asterisk system, which included a description by Arik Baratz (see e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg52213.html and

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-01-31 Thread sammy ominsky
On 31/01/2009, at 05:49, Ori Berger wrote: - VPSLink is still the cheapest VPS host at $8/month (or $80/year) for 64MB of memory. It seems like the OpenVZ package is better suited than the Xen package, being less resource intensive. And from past experience I would bet on Debian -- however,

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-01-31 Thread Geoff Shang
sammy ominsky wrote: Worse than that, asterisk will not work in an OpenVZ VE unless you have access to the underlying host to install the zaptel kernel modules. Is this the case now? I know is used to be the case that you only needed zaptel if you were going to use a device that needed it

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-01-31 Thread sammy ominsky
On 31/01/2009, at 23:12, Geoff Shang wrote: Worse than that, asterisk will not work in an OpenVZ VE unless you have access to the underlying host to install the zaptel kernel modules. Is this the case now? I know is used to be the case that you only needed zaptel if you were going to

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-01-31 Thread Ori Berger
sammy ominsky wrote: Worse than that, asterisk will not work in an OpenVZ VE unless you have access to the underlying host to install the zaptel kernel modules. (Note that in another email, Sammy mentions that it works but some features don't). It looks like Xen would therefore be needed?

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-01-31 Thread Arik Baratz
2009/2/1 Ori Berger linux...@orib.net: sammy ominsky wrote: Worse than that, asterisk will not work in an OpenVZ VE unless you have access to the underlying host to install the zaptel kernel modules. (Note that in another email, Sammy mentions that it works but some features don't). It

Re: Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-01-31 Thread Arik Baratz
Hey Ori, long time. 2009/1/31 Ori Berger linux...@orib.net: - VPSLink is still the cheapest VPS host at $8/month (or $80/year) for 64MB of memory. It seems like the OpenVZ package is better suited than the Xen package, being less resource intensive. And from past experience I would bet on

Setting up a PBX for Israel-US communication

2009-01-30 Thread Ori Berger
Least year, there was a thread discussing set up of an asterisk system, which included a description by Arik Baratz (see e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg52213.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg52276.html) I am planning to set up