Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-15 Thread marc volovic
I missed mist of the discussion, so pardon me for possible going over plowed ground - it is probably difficult to nigh impossible to buy a linux-installed machine, but it is quite easy to buy a "no os" machine (actually, with freedos). Why not get one of them and deploy whatever flavour of

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-15 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi, Pardon me for straying a bit off the topic of the recent sub-thread, On 14/05/2020 23:08, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2020 14:39:02 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > >> That's perfectly reasonable, although I'll personally never use or >> recommend Mint again. > > I'm going to bow

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 14 May 2020 14:39:02 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > That's perfectly reasonable, although I'll personally never use or > recommend Mint again. I'm going to bow out of this debate now. I should have bowed out of it long ago. First of all, I'm presumably on the same side as most of you when

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 14 May 2020 10:24:53 +0300 Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi Tzafrir and all! > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:05 AM Tzafrir Cohen > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On 13/05/2020 6:17, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Just in case somebody here doesn't know what we're talking about, > > > the message

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-14 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Tzafrir and all! On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:05 AM Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Hi, > > On 13/05/2020 6:17, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Tue, 12 May 2020 09:44:34 +0300 > > Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > >> Hi Geoffrey! > >> > >> Please see > >>

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 13 May 2020 11:05:10 +0300 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On 13/05/2020 6:17, Steve Litt wrote: > > The following is a > > contemporaneous description of why: > > > > http://troubleshooters.com/lpm/200908/200908.htm#_The_Politics_of_Free_Software:_Pet_predjudices > > > > If anybody knows the

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-13 Thread Geoffrey Mendelson
-- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel On May 13, 2020, 10:48 AM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen , wrote: > > At the time IBM really wanted to continue developing its own fork of > OpenOffice and for that they did not want OpenOffice to continue with > the LibreOffice

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi, On 13/05/2020 6:17, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 12 May 2020 09:44:34 +0300 > Shlomi Fish wrote: > >> Hi Geoffrey! >> >> Please see >> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg66441.html and >> let's drop the "antisemitism" argument once and for all. > > Well, speaking only

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Geoff, On 12/05/2020 22:16, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hi Geoffrey, > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:51 PM Geoffrey Mendelson > mailto:geoffreymendel...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > i went to the trouble of signing into one of my linux servers and > reading the link. > > It was your telling me

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 12 May 2020 09:44:34 +0300 Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi Geoffrey! > > Please see > https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg66441.html and > let's drop the "antisemitism" argument once and for all. Well, speaking only for myself, in 2009 I erased Mint from all my computers and

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-12 Thread Yedidyah Bar David
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:49 PM Dimid Duchovny wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm looking to buy a desktop computer with Linux pre-installed for a couple > of senior citizens. I'd usually buy a generic PC and install myself, but now > due to the coronavirus that's not an option. > The main uses are web

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Geoffrey, On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:51 PM Geoffrey Mendelson < geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > i went to the trouble of signing into one of my linux servers and reading > the link. > > It was your telling me not to talk about how RMS said as president of the > FSF that he was going to

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-12 Thread Geoffrey Mendelson
i went to the trouble of signing into one of my linux servers and reading the link. It was your telling me not to talk about how RMS said as president of the FSF that he was going to honor the Palestinian boycott of Israel. It had nothing to do with linux mint. Totally irrelevant. Geoff. As

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
I have now tested all three links using chromium-browser and the "lynx" browser on fedora and they all open fine in both browsers (as well as firefox). Something is broken on your end, and I have no control on proprietary browsers. On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:16 AM Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > On

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:05 AM Geoffrey Mendelson < geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > The link wont open. I tried chrome and safari. > > Which link? There were several in my original email. For the record, they all open fine in firefox on fedora 32 x64. Regarding Safari, see

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-12 Thread Geoffrey Mendelson
Here is a good place to start. https://abriefhistory.org/?p=774 Geoff -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel On May 12, 2020, 9:44 AM +0300, Shlomi Fish , wrote: > Hi Geoffrey! > > Please see https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg66441.html >

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-12 Thread Geoffrey Mendelson
The link wont open. I tried chrome and safari. Why not do some actual reasearch and look up the request that no one affiliated with the IDF use Linux Mint due to their trearment of the palestinians? Or his sorry, I pissed of the people that rule the world appology? Dont take my word for it,

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Geoffrey! Please see https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg66441.html and let's drop the "antisemitism" argument once and for all. That put aside there are other distributions that should hopefully be able to recognise and utilise most commodity hardware: *

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-12 Thread Shay Gover
So don't use microphones either. Or just use it and see them explode. :) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:00 AM Geoffrey Mendelson < geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Support antisemitism. Use Linux Mint. > > Geoff > > -- > Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel > On

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-12 Thread Geoffrey Mendelson
Support antisemitism. Use Linux Mint. Geoff -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel On May 12, 2020, 3:09 AM +0300, Shay Gover , wrote: > Why not install yourself? use mint distro. > > > On Mon, May 11, 2020, 22:49 Dimid Duchovny wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > >

Re: Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-11 Thread Shay Gover
Why not install yourself? use mint distro. On Mon, May 11, 2020, 22:49 Dimid Duchovny wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking to buy a desktop computer with Linux pre-installed for a > couple of senior citizens. I'd usually buy a generic PC and install myself, > but now due to the coronavirus that's not

Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

2020-05-11 Thread Dimid Duchovny
Hi, I'm looking to buy a desktop computer with Linux pre-installed for a couple of senior citizens. I'd usually buy a generic PC and install myself, but now due to the coronavirus that's not an option. The main uses are web browsing and skype/zoom. Looking for a stable distro and long term