Re: Blank screen when moving from X to console

2002-08-25 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David

On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 12:08:29AM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
 On Sat, 2002-08-24 at 23:47, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
  On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 11:29:28PM +0300, Noam Meltzer wrote:
   hi!
   I have this weird problem that after I start X I can't return to console
   mode any more. (I'm talking here even on a minimal X - aka. running:
   X)
  
  Can any Asm wiz here code a (root-privileges-requiring, of course)
  program to do a mode switch to 80x25 via int 10 or direct memory
  access or however its possible in Linux?
 
 I'm not an Asm wiz by a long shot, but I do remember something like this
 coming with svgalib or what was it's name...

Yes.
Read textmode(1).

BTW, I do not think the
MOV AX,xx
INT 10
suggestion will work, without moving to realmode (and maybe even with
moving it won't work very well).
textmode works well for me (I also have problems similar to the original
poster).

Didi

 
 Gilad.
 
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Another postfix queue Q.

2002-08-25 Thread Ishai Parasol

Hi

Im Kvar Be-postfix queue Askinan...
I use it as my smtp server and when I send an email it stays in the queue
for one or two seconds, but sometimes it can stay there for 10-20 minutes.
Why does it happen, what cause the long delay ?

Thanks,
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Re: Another postfix queue Q.

2002-08-25 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda

On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 10:17:17AM +0200, Ishai Parasol wrote:
 Hi
 
 Im Kvar Be-postfix queue Askinan...
 I use it as my smtp server and when I send an email it stays in the queue
 for one or two seconds, but sometimes it can stay there for 10-20 minutes.
 Why does it happen, what cause the long delay ?

The other side's mail server is not answering connections? Your
connectivity is down? postfix is out for a coffee break?

tail -f /var/log/maillog. postfix is quite verbose and you should be
able to see the outgoing email with the reason why it hasn't been sent
yet. 

also, mailq(1) will tell you if an email is deferred, and why, if I
remember correctly. 
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calm down, it's *only* ones and zeros. 

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Re: FW: Blank screen when moving from X to console

2002-08-25 Thread guy keren


On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Tal Achituv wrote:

 Here you go:

 mov ax,7
 int 10h

this is a bios call - does it work under linux? won't it conflict with
what linux thinks is the terminal's mode?

its also not in a format understood by GNU assembler - they use the ATT
format, not the intel format.

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Re: X problems

2002-08-25 Thread guy keren


On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 when i 'startx' i get a black screen and sometimes (when
 running startx
 again) i get to see the desktop for a variable amount of time
 (0.5 seconds to 3 secs aprox.)

which program did you try to configure X with? there are several such
programs - one of them might work. not sure which comes with mandrake -
you should have mandrake's own X config utility (drakex?), or
Xconfigurator (is it redhat specific?) or xf86setup, or

also - you get lots of messages when you run X, on the console from which
you ran 'startx'. can you copy them _all_ into a file, and send them over?
specifically the last few might tell exactly what the problem is - or they
might not ;)

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Re: 102 fm 103 fm stations

2002-08-25 Thread Oded Arbel

áéåí øàùåï, 25 áàåâåñè 2002, 03:31, Hetz Ben Hamo ëúá:

 to play 102 fm: mplayer mms://212.179.112.29/102fm

Didn't work for me with Xine - it couldn't detect the fact that its an ASF 
stream for some reason. Xine does play 103fm for me. I haven't tried mplayer 
as I'm having problems with it. 
Alternativly you can use mms_client to download and save the stream on your 
harddisk and then play it later with whatever ASF supporting player you have 
(which means of course that you can't listen in realtime, oh well :-)

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Re: X problems

2002-08-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, guy keren wrote:


 On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  when i 'startx' i get a black screen and sometimes (when
  running startx
  again) i get to see the desktop for a variable amount of time
  (0.5 seconds to 3 secs aprox.)

 which program did you try to configure X with? there are several such
 programs - one of them might work. not sure which comes with mandrake -
 you should have mandrake's own X config utility (drakex?), or
 Xconfigurator (is it redhat specific?) or xf86setup, or

XF86Setup came with XFree 3. xf86cfg comes wth XFree 4 .

I recall XF86Setup as somewhat useful, although lacking almost any form of
auto detection. xf86cfg tries to use the autodetection capabilities of
xfree. Actually, it even worked for me once. But most of the times it
simply failed, and crashed.


 also - you get lots of messages when you run X, on the console from which
 you ran 'startx'. can you copy them _all_ into a file, and send them over?
 specifically the last few might tell exactly what the problem is - or they
 might not ;)

Agree here. Have a look and see if it makes sense. A 'Missing core
pointer' is a misconfigured mouse. And 'Missing font fixed' means that
something is problematic with the fonts configuration (normally it means
that all the fonts are missing, not only the one called 'fixed')

Have a look at the messages slightly above the last message to see some
more details about the problem.

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(no subject)

2002-08-25 Thread avivdog

 which program did you try to configure X with? there are
several such
 programs - one of them might work. not sure which comes with
mandrake -
 you should have mandrake's own X config utility (drakex?), or
 Xconfigurator (is it redhat specific?) or xf86setup, or
i used like 3 different tools, a manual one, an automated one
and another one 
with a graphical interface, and btw, i use slack
 also - you get lots of messages when you run X, on the
console from which
 you ran 'startx'. can you copy them _all_ into a file, and
send them over?
 specifically the last few might tell exactly what the
problem is - or they
 might not ;)


i attached the file with the errors to this message




XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sun Aug 25 13:23:25 2002
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list!
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
_KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
DCOPServer up and running.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
/opt/kde/bin/artsd: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
Could not dlopen library knotify.la: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory
knotify: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
Could not dlopen library knotify.la: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory
knotify: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Could not dlopen library knotify.la: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory
knotify: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size is (0,0)
QWidget::setMaximumSize: (unnamed/DigitalClock) Negative sizes (2,-4) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size is (0,0)
QWidget::setMaximumSize: (unnamed/QLabel) Negative sizes (61,-4) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size is (0,0)
QWidget::setMaximumSize: (unnamed/DigitalClock) Negative sizes (2,-4) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size is (0,0)
QWidget::setMaximumSize: (unnamed/QLabel) Negative sizes (61,-4) are not possible
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
QObject::connect: No such signal KDockArea::docked()
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'view widget')
QObject::connect: No such signal KDockArea::docked()
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'view widget')
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 203, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 194, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 199, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 185, errno = 2
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 182, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 201, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 189, errno = 0
xinit:  connection to X server lost.



Comic makes fun of Linux(?)

2002-08-25 Thread Martin Polley

See today's Soap on a Rope (25 Aug 2002):

http://www.soaprope.com/


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Re: X problems

2002-08-25 Thread Aviv


 which program did you try to configure X with? there are several such
 programs - one of them might work. not sure which comes with mandrake -
 you should have mandrake's own X config utility (drakex?), or
 Xconfigurator (is it redhat specific?) or xf86setup, or
i used like 3 different tools, a manual one, an automated one and another one 
with a graphical interface, and btw, i use slack
 also - you get lots of messages when you run X, on the console from which
 you ran 'startx'. can you copy them _all_ into a file, and send them over?
 specifically the last few might tell exactly what the problem is - or they
 might not ;)
i'll copy it to a file  and send it over asap

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Re: X problems

2002-08-25 Thread Aviv

i attached the file to this mail
just btw, now when i ran it i only saw the kde screen for half a sec when 
switching between VCs




XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sun Aug 25 13:23:25 2002
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list!
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
_KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
DCOPServer up and running.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
/opt/kde/bin/artsd: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
Could not dlopen library knotify.la: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory
knotify: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
Could not dlopen library knotify.la: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory
knotify: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Could not dlopen library knotify.la: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory
knotify: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size is (0,0)
QWidget::setMaximumSize: (unnamed/DigitalClock) Negative sizes (2,-4) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size is (0,0)
QWidget::setMaximumSize: (unnamed/QLabel) Negative sizes (61,-4) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size is (0,0)
QWidget::setMaximumSize: (unnamed/DigitalClock) Negative sizes (2,-4) are not possible
QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size is (0,0)
QWidget::setMaximumSize: (unnamed/QLabel) Negative sizes (61,-4) are not possible
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
QObject::connect: No such signal KDockArea::docked()
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'view widget')
QObject::connect: No such signal KDockArea::docked()
QObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')
QObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'view widget')
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 203, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 194, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 199, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 185, errno = 2
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 182, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 201, errno = 0
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 189, errno = 0
xinit:  connection to X server lost.



Re: Comic makes fun of Linux(?)

2002-08-25 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef

On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 12:24, Martin Polley wrote:
 See today's Soap on a Rope (25 Aug 2002):
 
 http://www.soaprope.com/

These are not the droids you're looking for. We can continue on are way.
Move on...

:-)

Obi Van Gilad.


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Re: (no subject)

2002-08-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i used like 3 different tools, a manual one, an automated one
 and another one
 with a graphical interface, and btw, i use slack

Names (command names) would be useful.

  also - you get lots of messages when you run X, on the
  console from which you ran 'startx'. can you copy them _all_ into a
  file, and send them over?

 i attached the file with the errors to this message

From a first look at there it seems that the server is up, but all clients
somehow failed to run. Though I maybe mis-reading it.

As a simlpe test, run:

  xinit /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm

or:

  xinit /usr/X11R6/bin/twm

(or whatever: a full path to some X client. Must begin with '/')

See if this doesn't crash immedietly. If soo, you should see how to get
your server working with KDE. Also try to run some QT and KDE programs
from there and see what happens.

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Re: 102 fm 103 fm stations

2002-08-25 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

On Sunday 25 August 2002 11:33, Oded Arbel wrote:
 áéåí øàùåï, 25 áàåâåñè 2002, 03:31, Hetz Ben Hamo ëúá:
  to play 102 fm: mplayer mms://212.179.112.29/102fm

 Didn't work for me with Xine - it couldn't detect the fact that its an ASF
 stream for some reason. Xine does play 103fm for me. I haven't tried
 mplayer as I'm having problems with it.

Such as? does it complain about the GCC? there's an option to ignore detection 
of gcc..

 Alternativly you can use mms_client to download and save the stream on your
 harddisk and then play it later with whatever ASF supporting player you
 have (which means of course that you can't listen in realtime, oh well :-)

Which could be a problematic issue since it is a continuous stream ;)

BTW - if you look at www.mplayerhq.hu - you can find RPMS for mplayer.

Thanks,
Hetz

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Re: (no subject(

2002-08-25 Thread avivdog

On Sunday 25 August 2002 14:55, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i used like 3 different tools, a manual one, an automated one
  and another one
  with a graphical interface, and btw, i use slack

 Names (command names) would be useful.

i tried xfree86setup, xf86cfg and xf86config
   also - you get lots of messages when you run X, on the
   console from which you ran 'startx'. can you copy them
_all_ into a
   file, and send them over?
 
  i attached the file with the errors to this message

 From a first look at there it seems that the server is up,
but all clients
 somehow failed to run. Though I maybe mis-reading it.

 As a simlpe test, run:

   xinit /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm

 or:

   xinit /usr/X11R6/bin/twm

 (or whatever: a full path to some X client. Must begin with '/')

i got the same result, black screen with flashes of the X
screen from time to time (if at all, changes every time).
i also tried running X :0.0 and got the same

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Re: (no subject)

2002-08-25 Thread Meir Kriheli

On Sunday 25 August 2002 13:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 25 August 2002 14:55, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
  On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   i used like 3 different tools, a manual one, an automated one
   and another one
   with a graphical interface, and btw, i use slack
 
  Names (command names) would be useful.

 i tried xfree86setup, xf86cfg and xf86config

also - you get lots of messages when you run X, on the
console from which you ran 'startx'. can you copy them

 _all_ into a

file, and send them over?
  
   i attached the file with the errors to this message
 
  From a first look at there it seems that the server is up,

 but all clients

  somehow failed to run. Though I maybe mis-reading it.
 
  As a simlpe test, run:
 
xinit /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
 
  or:
 
xinit /usr/X11R6/bin/twm
 
  (or whatever: a full path to some X client. Must begin with '/')

 i got the same result, black screen with flashes of the X
 screen from time to time (if at all, changes every time).
 i also tried running X :0.0 and got the same

As root try:

XFree86 -configure

This would try to autodected the hardware and write the file to roots home 
dir. This file is only a skeleton but it should get you started.

IIRC this wroks from 4.2.0 and up. 
-- 
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MKsoft systems
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Re: postfix queue.

2002-08-25 Thread Oleg Kobets

 I'm not sure. Why do you think a DB would serve an MTA better than
 a directory structure (of any kind/depth) ??

Well,

1. If you have a very large system then it would be better to hold the queue
on remote SQL server instead of local dir's thus improving the overall speed
and QoS.

2. A LOT easier to manage.

3. A more organized and efficient manner of storing information.

4. Better protection against viruses of any kind (I mean Linux viruses that
can damage the system if MTA runs as root (always a bad idea, IMHO))

5. I like SQL, go ahead and shoot me :)

Oleg.

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Re: postfix queue.

2002-08-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Oleg Kobets wrote:

  I'm not sure. Why do you think a DB would serve an MTA better than
  a directory structure (of any kind/depth) ??

 Well,

 1. If you have a very large system then it would be better to hold the queue
 on remote SQL server instead of local dir's thus improving the overall speed
 and QoS.

A query to a remote sql server is faster than some local file operation?

Also: nothing beats the simplicity of a local file system. No extra daemon
needs to be up. No network connection is needed.

(How can you get a mail notification that your sql server isn't working?)


 2. A LOT easier to manage.

Depends. Collections of files on a file system, and collection of entries
in a database. How exactly do you delete a message? What exactly do you
need to remove from which table?


 3. A more organized and efficient manner of storing information.

 4. Better protection against viruses of any kind (I mean Linux viruses that
 can damage the system if MTA runs as root (always a bad idea, IMHO))

[If you're worried about not running mail server as root, you can always
use qmail or postfix. In fact, there are a number of other good reasons
to use one of those two]

Why?

A file cannot execute itself from the file system. It requires some help
(e.g: a bug in the MTA).

In that sense, it is simply data in the storage. And data from a SQL
database can get executed through similar bugs.

-- 
Tzafrir Cohen
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http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir



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Re: SIM release 0.7

2002-08-25 Thread Oded Arbel

áéåí øàùåï, 25 áàåâåñè 2002, 16:50, Vladimir Shutoff ëúá:
 Hi!
 I have made release SIM-0.7 and I shall be grateful if you will make RPMS
 for SIM-0.7 (on cvs tagged SIM-0_7)

Sure thing :-)

Mandrake RPMS for 0.7 on my site at http://www.geek.co.il/RPMS.
the binary is built for Mandrake 9.0 with KDE 3.0.3, QT3.0.5 and gcc3.2. the 
source would probably build on any Mandrake system with KDE3 and QT3.0.4 and 
above, possibly on other systems with --nodeps or minor spec changes.

Thanks for writing a great piece of software !

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Oded


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Re: X problems

2002-08-25 Thread guy keren


On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Aviv wrote:

 i attached the file to this mail
 just btw, now when i ran it i only saw the kde screen for half a sec when
 switching between VCs

oki doki. you have the following error, which repeats for a few
applications:

/opt/kde/bin/artsd: error while loading shared libraries:
libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory

as you can see - you are missing the 'audiofile' library. this is a
low-level library, used by most of the KDE applications. you need to find
how you managed to miss installing it - and find which package it belongs
to.

since i'm not familiar with slackware - soemone else might be able to tell
how to find which package this library belongs to.

-- 
guy

For world domination - press 1,
 or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy


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PPTP for Cable NetVision

2002-08-25 Thread Tal Achituv
Title: Message



Hi!

Can anyone point me 
to a good HOW-TO for pptp under Linux?

(I have pppd  
pptp, but nothing seems to work...).

I`m a 
Golden-Channels client, I can ping cable.netvision.net.il (pptp server), 

but haven't been 
able to create a route... 

anybody has that 
configuration (thru cable.netvision.net.il)running successfully? 


Thanks!
Tal.


re: X problems

2002-08-25 Thread avivdog

On Monday 26 August 2002 01:57, guy keren wrote:
 On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Aviv wrote:
  i attached the file to this mail
  just btw, now when i ran it i only saw the kde screen for
half a sec when
  switching between VCs

 oki doki. you have the following error, which repeats for a few
 applications:

 /opt/kde/bin/artsd: error while loading shared libraries:
 libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or
 directory

 as you can see - you are missing the 'audiofile' library.
this is a
 low-level library, used by most of the KDE applications. you
need to find
 how you managed to miss installing it - and find which
package it belongs
 to.

 since i'm not familiar with slackware - soemone else might
be able to tell
 how to find which package this library belongs to.

well, i get an error when starting kde on another slack 8.1
box saying i dont have  a sound card configured or something
like that, i just click ok and everything works smoothly
i guess thats the same error
and i doubt i didnt install that package because both systems
are installed from the same cd and i chose the same kde
packages for them
so i either installed it or the package isnt necessary for
running kde

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Re: PPTP for Cable NetVision

2002-08-25 Thread Yehuda Drori

On Monday 26 August 2002 03:02, Tal Achituv wrote:

try this How-TO written by Tal Amir..

http://www.whatsup.org.il/CABLES-DHCP-PPTP-HOWTO.html

it was written right after Netvision changed the way cable clients ( ARUTZI 
ZAHAV ) connect to the internet :-(

follow the instructions and you'll be connected in no time.. ( what is 5 min 
regrading eternity :-)

I'm connected this way since they changed the connection method..

GOOD LUCK..

-- 
Yehuda Drori
http://whatsup.org.il
Your Linux Spot On the Web in Hebrew
 Hi!

 Can anyone point me to a good HOW-TO for pptp under Linux?

 (I have pppd  pptp, but nothing seems to work...).

 I`m a Golden-Channels client, I can ping cable.netvision.net.il (pptp
 server),
 but haven't been able to create a route...

 anybody has that configuration (thru cable.netvision.net.il) running
 successfully?

 Thanks!
 Tal.


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OT: free backup mail server ?

2002-08-25 Thread Ishai Parasol

Hi

Does anyone know about a free backup mail server service somewhere over the
net ?

Thanks,
Ishai.



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