RE: Who changed the root password
Title: Message it would bea good start to check the sulog and the `last` log , in order to see who was logged in that time to the machine, since you have a time stamp - it should be rather simple to narrow it down to the relevent time frame and from there on tracing the address of the one looged in to the machine then check with the ones you know to have the root password whom might have left an open session But first change the password and keep track of whom you tell it to ( if you must at all). Assaf -Original Message-From: FW Admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 5:12 PMTo: Linux-il@cs. Huji. Ac. Il (E-mail)Subject: Who changed the root password These are the suspisious records in the /var/log/messages: messages.2:Jan 14 18:06:06 mail PAM_pwdb[5947]: password for (root/0) changed by ((null)/0) messages.3:Jan 8 21:00:13 mail PAM_pwdb[2528]: password for (root/0) changed by ((null)/0) [root@mail log]# And the root password was indeed changed. By whom ? == Evgeny Popov Network and Security Administrator Phone: 972-9-9594995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tecnomatix Tecnologies Ltd. == "Unix IS user friendly, it is just selective about who his friends are." Anonymous ** ** eSafe-IL scanned this outgoing email for viruses, vandals and malicious content ** ** --- This e-mail message may contain confidential, commercial and privileged information or data that constitute proprietary information of Cellcom Israel Ltd. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any use of this information or data by any other person is absolutely prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete all copies and contact us by e-mailing to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You.
Cables Connection Under Aruzei Zahav + Internet Zahav
I know people have discussed this topic alot but it's over a month that I can't successfully connect. This was tried on RedHat 8 , RedHat 7.3 and Debian 3 SID (all on the same machine). The ethernet card is Realtek. Here are the details (l/p details altered): [This is quite long, I tried to trim it up as much as I could] --- cablestart script (provided by Amir Tal): ^^ #!/bin/bash USERNAME=username /sbin/ifdown eth0 /sbin/ifup eth0 CABLEGW=`cat /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info | grep GATEWAY | cut -d= -f2` /sbin/route add -host pns.inter.net.il gw $CABLEGW /usr/sbin/pptp-linux pns.inter.net.il debug user $USERNAME remotename pns.inter.net.il mtu 1460 mru 1460 defaultroute noauth sleep 5 NEWGW=$(/sbin/ifconfig ppp0 | grep inet | cut -d: -f3 | tail -1 | cut -d -f1) /sbin/route add default gw $NEWGW /sbin/route del default gw $CABLEGW - /etc/ppp/options: lock hide-password noauth usepeerdns - [root@localhost netvision-connect]# route -vn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 213.8.255.217 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 213.8.56.15 10.40.32.1 255.255.255.255 UGH 0 00 eth0 10.40.32.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.224.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo [root@localhost netvision-connect]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 213.8.255.217 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 ppp0 213.8.56.15 10.40.32.1 255.255.255.255 UGH 40 0 0 eth0 10.40.32.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.224.0 U40 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U40 0 0 lo -- [root@localhost netvision-connect]# cat /etc/resolv.conf search inter.net.il nameserver 192.116.202.222 nameserver 192.116.192.9 -- This is probably meanless as I'm using a clean install of RedHat 7.3 no rules created by me: [root@localhost netvision-connect]# iptables --list Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination - My devices, ppp0 is up only after runing 'cablestart' of course: [root@localhost netvision-connect]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:FC:8C:43:46 inet addr:10.40.38.210 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.224.0 UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:479 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:531 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:48132 (47.0 Kb) TX bytes:44308 (43.2 Kb) Interrupt:9 Base address:0xc000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:61 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:61 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:3940 (3.8 Kb) TX bytes:3940 (3.8 Kb) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:213.8.129.19 P-t-P:213.8.255.217 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1460 Metric:1 RX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:2750 (2.6 Kb) TX bytes:912 (912.0 b) Login/password details changed: # Secrets for authentication using PAP # clientserversecretIP addresses ### redhat-config-network will overwrite this part!!! (begin) ## ### redhat-config-network will overwrite this part!!! (end) username pns.inter.net.il password Here is pinging google: [root@localhost netvision-connect]#
Re: Cables Connection Under Aruzei Zahav + Internet Zahav
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 12:18, Eliran wrote: I know people have discussed this topic alot but it's over a month that I can't successfully connect. This was tried on RedHat 8 , RedHat 7.3 and Debian 3 SID (all on the same machine). The ethernet card is Realtek. Here are the details (l/p details altered): [This is quite long, I tried to trim it up as much as I could] --- cablestart script (provided by Amir Tal): ^^ #!/bin/bash USERNAME=username /sbin/ifdown eth0 /sbin/ifup eth0 CABLEGW=`cat /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info | grep GATEWAY | cut -d= -f2` /sbin/route add -host pns.inter.net.il gw $CABLEGW /usr/sbin/pptp-linux pns.inter.net.il debug user $USERNAME remotename pns.inter.net.il mtu 1460 mru 1460 defaultroute noauth sleep 5 NEWGW=$(/sbin/ifconfig ppp0 | grep inet | cut -d: -f3 | tail -1 | cut -d -f1) /sbin/route add default gw $NEWGW /sbin/route del default gw $CABLEGW --- -- /etc/ppp/options: lock hide-password noauth usepeerdns --- -- [root@localhost netvision-connect]# route -vn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 213.8.255.217 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 213.8.56.15 10.40.32.1 255.255.255.255 UGH 0 00 eth0 10.40.32.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.224.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo [root@localhost netvision-connect]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 213.8.255.217 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 ppp0 213.8.56.15 10.40.32.1 255.255.255.255 UGH 40 0 0 eth0 10.40.32.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.224.0 U40 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U40 0 0 lo --- --- [root@localhost netvision-connect]# cat /etc/resolv.conf search inter.net.il nameserver 192.116.202.222 nameserver 192.116.192.9 --- --- This is probably meanless as I'm using a clean install of RedHat 7.3 no rules created by me: [root@localhost netvision-connect]# iptables --list Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination --- -- My devices, ppp0 is up only after runing 'cablestart' of course: [root@localhost netvision-connect]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:FC:8C:43:46 inet addr:10.40.38.210 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.224.0 UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:479 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:531 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:48132 (47.0 Kb) TX bytes:44308 (43.2 Kb) Interrupt:9 Base address:0xc000 try to change MTU of your eth0 also to 1460, and reconnect. other then that, it looks ok. just make sure the $CABLEGW interval is removed from the routing table after ppp0 is up. i saw cases where it does not get removed cleanly, and causes problems. tal. loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:61 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:61 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:3940 (3.8 Kb) TX bytes:3940 (3.8 Kb) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:213.8.129.19 P-t-P:213.8.255.217 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1460 Metric:1 RX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:2750 (2.6 Kb) TX bytes:912 (912.0 b) ---
Re: Cables Connection Under Aruzei Zahav + Internet Zahav
Eliran, Check this out Kernel IP routing table: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 213.8.255.217 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 213.8.56.15 10.40.32.1 255.255.255.255 UGH 0 00 eth0 #change the following line to look like this 10.40.32.0 10.40.32.1 255.255.224.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo # the following line you don't have at all: 0.0.0.0 213.8.225.217 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 I think that you will need default gw to surf the net :-) Regards Boris Ratner. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cables Connection Under Aruzei Zahav + Internet Zahav
Amir Tal wrote: just make sure the $CABLEGW interval is removed from the routing table after ppp0 is up. i saw cases where it does not get removed cleanly, and causes problems. What kind of problems? What is the significant of the MTU variable ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cables Connection Under Aruzei Zahav + Internet Zahav
Boris Ratner wrote: I think that you will need default gw to surf the net :-) I have one default gw at the begining, later I add a new one and delete the old one. What's wrong ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cables Connection Under Aruzei Zahav + Internet Zahav
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 16:41, Eliran wrote: Amir Tal wrote: just make sure the $CABLEGW interval is removed from the routing table after ppp0 is up. i saw cases where it does not get removed cleanly, and causes problems. What kind of problems? What is the significant of the MTU variable ? if there are 2 gateways in your routing table, some requests might be directed to the wrong gateway, including connection attempts, dns quries etc... MTU stands for maximum transfer units. i can go on and on about what it does. lets save everyone some bandwidth. read this : http://www.pcwebopedia.com/TERM/M/MTU.html -- == Tal Amir,Founder, Content Manager. Whatsup - Hebrew Linux Portal. http://www.whatsup.org.il,[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 15748705, Cell : 058-978979 == = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cables Connection Under Aruzei Zahav + Internet Zahav
Eliran try making the following changes to the script: cablestart script (provided by Amir Tal): ^^ #!/bin/bash USERNAME=username /sbin/ifdown eth0 /sbin/ifup eth0 CABLEGW=`cat /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info | grep GATEWAY | cut -d= -f2` /sbin/route add -host pns.inter.net.il gw $CABLEGW /sbin/route del default gw $CABLEGW # delete the default gw here so pptp could create one itself /usr/sbin/pptp-linux pns.inter.net.il debug user $USERNAME remotename pns.inter.net.il mtu 1460 mru 1460 defaultroute noauth sleep 5 # If i am right then pptp should add a new default gw by itself # Try typing this script manually until this line and write route -n to see if there # actually is a new default gw. if there is one don't execute next two lines.\ NEWGW=$(/sbin/ifconfig ppp0 | grep inet | cut -d: -f3 | tail -1 | cut -d -f1) /sbin/route add default gw $NEWGW -- I have published my own script a month ago on IGLU's FAQ but it's not there now. Tzafrir migh have it though. Regards Boris Ratner. 053-891578 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cables Connection Under Aruzei Zahav + Internet Zahav
Eliran, I will have to agree with Amir Tal. You need to have the following routnig table prior to pptp connection: 1. route to your local Aruzei zahav network : route add -net 10.x.y.z netmask 255.255.240.0 gw ARUZEY_zahav_GW interface eth0 2.route to your Internet_Zahav pptp server:route add -host IP_of_inet_zahav_pptp gw ARUZEY_zahav_GW interface eth0 3.standart local route 127.0.0.0 through lo interface. 4.(optional) you can add a route to aruzey zahav dns server here :route add -host AZAHAV_DNS_SERVER gw ARUZEY_zahav_GW interface eth0 5. run route -n to check if you have a default gw, if you do - DELETE it. you don't need it anymore 'cause you have static routes to everywhere you need. 6 .now run pptp client with all of the parameters , if you chose not to apply paragraph 4 use IP address for IneternetZahav pptp server. use ifconfig to see when the ppp0 interface is brought up. use route -n to see if pptp client added the new DEFAULT gw. if you don't see it add it using: route add default gw 213.8.255.217 interface ppp0 # I took the address from your first mail. what you will have is static routes to the local network and pptp server and default route through pptp server to the rest of the internet. I will be helpful if you will send the output of the process from the beginning to the end. Boris Ratner. 053891578 ps:Call me if there are problems or complications. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libDCOP error
I had KDE3.0.4 and upgraded into 3.1 After I updated everything worked well excpet one thing: One I'm trying to run programs I compiled from source, I get this error: relocation error: /opt/kde/lib/libDCOP.so.4: undefined symbol: static_QUType_varptr What should I do? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cables Connection Under Aruzei Zahav + Internet Zahav
Hi Eliran, The method suggested by Amir Tal is fine, and if you wish to explore another option, the method I am offering in the Cable-Modem Mini-Howto is equivalent. I preferred not to delete the default gateway, but to make the default gateway with a metric (priority) of 1 to the ethernet ( = the cable modem) and add another default gateway ( to the internet ) with metric 0. Here is how route -v looks on my system: [amit@galadriel ~]$ route -v Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 212.199.26.28 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 eth0 212.199.26.107 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 10.64.128.0 * 255.255.224.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo default * 0.0.0.0 U 0 00 ppp0 default * 0.0.0.0 U 1 00 eth0 The upshot of this is to have two things happen: You must use eth0 to access the pptp server. If you change your default route without setting a static route to the pptp server, then after about 3 minutes, the pptp keepalive packets that never arrive will cause the connection to drop. The second thing you need is a default route to the peer of your ppp0 interface, and it must have the highest priority (= lowest metric) or be the only default route. Amit -- Amit Margalit = It is easy to find fault, if one has that disposition. There was once a man who, not being able to find any other fault with his coal, complained that there were too many prehistoric toads in it. -- Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libDCOP error
Quoting The-Q, from the post of Wed, 29 Jan: I had KDE3.0.4 and upgraded into 3.1 After I updated everything worked well excpet one thing: One I'm trying to run programs I compiled from source, I get this error: relocation error: /opt/kde/lib/libDCOP.so.4: undefined symbol: static_QUType_varptr What should I do? recompile again against the new libraries? if you want more help, list how you upgraded, downloaded from where, and on what distro. this could be a lot of things. -- Born again badass Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ This post is encrypted twice with ROT-13. Documenting or attempting to crack this encryption is illegal. msg25483/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Cables Connection Under Aruzei Zahav + Internet Zahav
From: Amit Margalit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [snip] I preferred not to delete the default gateway, but to make the default gateway with a metric (priority) of 1 to the ethernet ( = the cable modem) and add another default gateway ( to the internet ) with metric 0. Well, this is not allowed AFAIK as far as standards go. Use metric 1 and 2, not 0 and 1. I do something similar with my ADSL lines using iproute2 package (which is far far far better than the ifconfig/route combo). If you don't know how to use iproute2, do yourself a favor and learn it. It streamlines network configuration concepts and makes life a little harder at first but a helluvalot easier once you get to know it. I have no default route in my main routing table. I also have two more tables - adsl and isdn, which have a default route to the - you guessed it - adsl and isdn lines. In addition, I have a rule with a higher priority to route mail using the ADSL table and a rule with a lower priority to route mail using the ISDN table. When an ADSL line goes up, its ip-up scripts add the default route to the ADSL table, and the ip-down removes it from the table. This way you are saying what you want to do, rather than much around with metrics and other stuff. -- Arik ** This email and attachments have been scanned for potential proprietary or sensitive information leakage. Vidius, Inc. Protecting Your Information from the Inside Out. www.vidius.com ** To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.1 is out.
What's the deal with the redhat - kde relationship? Did that bluecurve/bero-quiting incident kill our chances to get KDE rpms when major versions are released? Is anybody in redhat in charge of KDE connections? Is this the beginning of the segmentation between europe and the states leading to World War Three ... woh I think I got a little carried away ... No, they are busy with the preperation of the next version of Red Hat, and their version has tons of patches which are not part of KDE (like GNOME docking support, etc).. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.1 is out.
Could the mandrake SRPMs be rebuilt on RedHat? Probably no How much work is required to modify them? Depends. You'll need to replace the .tar.gz sources, remove lots of their %patch, and modify the BuildRequires field ;) Alternatively: How much work is required to modify the latest rawhide KDE SRPMs to build wit hthe latest KDE release? Same as above. (Does recent QT have font-config 2 support built-in, or do RedHat still have to patch this in? font-config2 is definitly one of the good things pushed by RH8. The only problem with it is that some legacy programs don't support it ;-) ) Such as? I'm running Phoebe2 with many apps from apps.kde.org recompiled by myself, so far everything seems to be ok. The XFT2 patches in RH are of-course half baked and according to the rumors I heard, Trolltech warned Red Hat that if they don't stop those games, they'll remove RH QT RPMS from the supported list. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Globes article about Perl (and PHP)
I'd be greatful if people with other browsers and/or platforms other than Linux would check the Globes site and let me know (in private mail if you don't want to bother the list) browser name/version/platform and where do you get stuck. I'll try to draw their attention to this. David Faure implemented some stubs to convince the globes site to work on Konqueror, which seems looks mostly fine (although the upper part seems not to appear - time to nag David again), but other then this Globes looks OK with Konqueror 3.0.4 and above... Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cabel modem installation.
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 21:42, David Harel wrote: Alex, I posted a message to you and the group regarding my findings about the cable modem (attached below) I saw it, I just had no time to answer, sorry. Since I did not receive any reply I presumed I failed to send it. Could you verify that you got it and can you figure out how to help me in this matter? The updated request. Thanks everyone who replied, (it always gets me by a surprise that so many people are kind enough to spend their time and answer) OK, things are a little more difficult. To begin, with I failed to describe my machine. It is an HP omnibook laptop. It has network card built into it and a single USB port to which I hooked a USB HUB. I am running Linux RH 8.0. Since I jammed the linux installation I reinstalled everything from scratch (while the cable modem is connected to the USB via the HUB). In the installation process I was prompted for eth0 only. I gave it IP address 10.0.0.1 It took me a while to figure out that after boot, eth0 is the USB cable modem. I was not able to reference eth1 at all. The following in /etc/modules.conf may help alias eth0 the_built_in_network_card_driver alias eth1 CDCEther What I do to make it work is: 1.Stop network operations by the command: /etc/init.d/network stop 2.Disconnect the cable modem from the USB hub. 3.Start eth0 manually by the command: ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up 4.Reconnect the cable modem to the USB hub. 5.I fiddle a little with the start/stop of /etc/init.d/network and vualla. eth0 is the network card and eth1 is the usb cable modem. I would like it to go smoothly on boot time without fiddling that much. Also I would like to figure out which eth? is to which physical hardware thing. Driver that detects its hardware first ( meaning usually driver that is loaded first, except USB, PCMCIA and other hotplugs ), gets eth0. And I HATE THIS WAY, as it doesn't play well with hotplugging. This stupidity should have been improved before long. I tried to use modprobe -c and got that eth0 is an alias to something. To what exactly? below are the files ifcfg-eth[01] eth0: DEVICE=eth0 IPADDR=10.0.0.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=10.0.0.0 ONBOOT=yes NAME=eth0 Seems to be all right. eth1: DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=dhcp ONBOOT=yes Seems to be all right too. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't send mail
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So my question is what is it that mozilla can do and mutt doesn't? I don't use either, but I suspect they have basically the same functionality plus different bells and whistles. Your confusion is on a different level. Grossly simplifying, dealing with email consists of two things (assuming the rest of the networking - domain name resolution, routing, and the likes - is somehow taken care of): the user side, i.e. some application that allows the user to specify where it gets the mail from and where it sends the mail to, read and compose emails, etc. Such applications are called Mail User Agents, or MUAs. Examples are Mozilla, KMail, mutt, pine, Evolution, Outlook, etc. The other side is transfer, all the stuff that Ira told you about and more. That is handled by mail server software such as sendmail, postfix, qmail, etc., and those programs are sometimes called MTA - Mail Trasport Agents. Two points: * mutt doesn't do smtp . Its authors deem it to be an MUA and not an MTA, and thus it doesn't have this smtp code. Thus you do need an MTA. Read mutt's FAQ. * One feature I now find sorely missing in mozilla and kmail, that both pine and mutt have: pine and mutt look up the local users database (passwd nss) to expand a name if it is not in their aliases. kmail and mozilla don't seem to have this ability (maybe they scan /etc/passwd, but certainly not NIS) -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cabel modem installation.
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: On Wednesday 29 January 2003 21:42, David Harel wrote: Alex, I posted a message to you and the group regarding my findings about the cable modem (attached below) I saw it, I just had no time to answer, sorry. Since I did not receive any reply I presumed I failed to send it. Could you verify that you got it and can you figure out how to help me in this matter? The updated request. Thanks everyone who replied, (it always gets me by a surprise that so many people are kind enough to spend their time and answer) OK, things are a little more difficult. To begin, with I failed to describe my machine. It is an HP omnibook laptop. It has network card built into it and a single USB port to which I hooked a USB HUB. I am running Linux RH 8.0. Since I jammed the linux installation I reinstalled everything from scratch (while the cable modem is connected to the USB via the HUB). In the installation process I was prompted for eth0 only. I gave it IP address 10.0.0.1 It took me a while to figure out that after boot, eth0 is the USB cable modem. I was not able to reference eth1 at all. The following in /etc/modules.conf may help alias eth0 the_built_in_network_card_driver alias eth1 CDCEther May, or may not. Those aliases are used by RH and Mandrake in the networking startup. /etc/init.d/network start calls 'ifup [interface]' for any interface that should come up automatically (/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-[interfce] has ONBOOT=yes) . The ifup script will first run 'modprobe [interface]' (e.g: 'modprobe eth0'). This can fail in a number of ways. If you're having problems with that, create an additional init.d script that has an empty 'stop' and 'restart' (maybe copy /etc/init.d.keytable ) that will load the relevant modules, by modprobe/insmod . Alternatively, you can always edit /modules.conf and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth* Alternatively, don't havethem start ONBOOT . Have only loopback started automatically. The ethernet adapters will be started later by your init.d script. (this means, though, that this script is now responsible for shutting them down). [messy, I know] What I do to make it work is: 1.Stop network operations by the command: /etc/init.d/network stop 2.Disconnect the cable modem from the USB hub. 3.Start eth0 manually by the command: ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up 'ifup eth0' ? May require 'ifdown eth0' beforehand. 4.Reconnect the cable modem to the USB hub. 5.I fiddle a little with the start/stop of /etc/init.d/network and vualla. eth0 is the network card and eth1 is the usb cable modem. I would like it to go smoothly on boot time without fiddling that much. Also I would like to figure out which eth? is to which physical hardware thing. Driver that detects its hardware first ( meaning usually driver that is loaded first, except USB, PCMCIA and other hotplugs ), gets eth0. And I HATE THIS WAY, as it doesn't play well with hotplugging. This stupidity should have been improved before long. How else can you identify eth0? -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mi SheMazbi'a - Mashpi'a!
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 19:46, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: didn't you mean Alt-V W? Nope, here it's specifically said X... screen capture enclosed - I rest my case ;-) -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.0.3) on LINUX Mandrake 9.0 attachment: kmail-snap.png
Re: Globes article about Perl (and PHP)
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:48:25PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: I'd be greatful if people with other browsers and/or platforms other than Linux would check the Globes site and let me know (in private mail if you don't want to bother the list) browser name/version/platform and where do you get stuck. I'll try to draw their attention to this. David Faure implemented some stubs to convince the globes site to work on Konqueror, which seems looks mostly fine (although the upper part seems not to appear - time to nag David again), but other then this Globes looks OK with Konqueror 3.0.4 and above... I believe that it is preferable to have the Globes people fix their site. Perhaps David Faure or someone else might post to this list what is the exact points of failure and and how the site can fix it? Hopefully it might help to fix the problem `upstream' and have both the problem the solution recorded in the list archive. -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cabel modem installation.
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 23:00, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: On Wednesday 29 January 2003 21:42, David Harel wrote: Driver that detects its hardware first ( meaning usually driver that is loaded first, except USB, PCMCIA and other hotplugs ), gets eth0. And I HATE THIS WAY, as it doesn't play well with hotplugging. This stupidity should have been improved before long. How else can you identify eth0? Why should it be eth0 and eth1 at all, and not cable_usb_modem_0 and internal_nic_0, for example? -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.1 is out.
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
(Does recent QT have font-config 2 support built-in, or do RedHat still
have to patch this in? font-config2 is definitly one of the good things
pushed by RH8. The only problem with it is that some legacy programs
don't support it ;-) )
Such as? I'm running Phoebe2 with many apps from apps.kde.org recompiled by
myself, so far everything seems to be ok. The XFT2 patches in RH are
of-course half baked and according to the rumors I heard, Trolltech warned
Red Hat that if they don't stop those games, they'll remove RH QT RPMS from
the supported list.
I don't know about phobe2. I grabbed the latest QT package from Rawhide
(qt-3.1.1-4). The base is qt-x11-free-3.1.1.tar.bz2 . There is also a
Xinerama tarball (is it used, by default?) and redhat's own default qtrc .
BW: the qtrc includes the following gem:
libraryPath=/root/.kde/lib/kde3/plugins/:/usr/lib/kde3/plugins/
(That package was built by root, aparantly)
There are numerous minor patches done in the prep phase itself not using
patches. This is natural: QT is a package that is supposed to work on many
platform, not only LSB linux. QT tries to be more self-contained (to be
easier to build) , and this is the standard with any (big enough) library.
A distro would like QT to build with as many system libraries and as few
built-in libraries, as this results in less (binary) code and probably
faster and smaller (at runtime) programs.
The patches there:
qt-3.0.5-nodebug.patch (651 bytes)
Seems to remove two warnings (to make the code less scary?)
qt-3.0.5-xim.patch (756 bytes)
Seems to change the defaults for two config options. Related to CJK
below, I guess
qt-3.1.0-makefile.patch (449 bytes)
Don't build the subdirs 'tutorial' and 'examples'
qt-x11-free-3.1.0-assistant.patch (402 bytes)
A small patch I don't understand: Patch
qt-x11-free-3.1.0/tools/assistant/lib/lib.pro to add
!force_static:!win32: {
CONFIG -= staticlib
CONFIG += dll
}
Maybe something to get it built?
qt-x11-free-3.1.0-designer.patch (637 bytes)
Patch to qt-x11-free-3.1.0/tools/designer/designer/designer.pro .
Similar to the one above?
qt-x11-free-3.1.0-editor.patch (370 bytes)
Patch to qt-x11-free-3.1.0/tools/designer/editor/editor.pro
This time:
-CONFIG += qt warn_on staticlib
-CONFIG -= dll
+CONFIG += qt warn_on release dll
Is there anything bad in this?
qt-x11-free-3.1.0-fontdatabase.patch (2028 bytes)
I'm not sure I understand this patch correctly, but it seems that it is
intended to give Xft fonts priority over leegacy X fonts, and also read
some aliases by defualt (?).
qt-x11-free-3.1.0-header.patch (411 bytes)
Rems-out printing of a certain header in
qt-x11-free-3.1.0/src/moc/moc.y
qt-x11-free-3.1.0-lib64.patch (1284 bytes)
Patches qt-x11-free-3.1.0/config.tests/unix/checkavail to replace
*/lib (at least on certain places) with */lib64 . Probablly required
for one of RH's 64ibt platforms.
qt-x11-free-3.1.1-ansi.patch (354 bits)
A smallish ansi-c++ purity patch, I guess.
qt-x11-free-3.1.1-monospace.patch (1306 bytes)
I don't understand this patch. Seems to modify the definition of what
is a monospaced font. Either this was a real problem, or this is
intended to work around some broken fonts. No useful comments there.
qt-x11-free-3.1.1-qmlined.patch (318 bytes)
A patch to qt-x11-free-3.1.1/src/compat/qmlined.h to #include
qtmultilineedit.h . Path untested by QT?
qt-x11-free-3.1.1-qmotif.patch (922 bytes)
make qmotif the default style, and remove a message
QMotif requires a Qt/Enterprise edition
One of the changelog entries:
* Wed Nov 13 2002 Than Ngo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.1.0-1
- update to 3.1.0
- adjust some patch files for 3.1.0
- clean up specfile
- remove some Xft2 patch files, which are now in 3.1.0
- add qwidget_x11.cpp.diff from Trolltech
- install qt in %%{_libdir}/qt-3.1 (bug #77706)
- don't use rpath
- enable large file support
- use system Xinerama
- remove unneeded cups patch file
- fix to build against new XFree86
Providing quality QT packages takes patching.
If that scares anybody, you should take a look at the XFree tarball. This
one suffers from an over-dose of patches ;-)
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Re: Cabel modem installation.
On Thursday 30 January 2003 00:52, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: What's the big deal? internal nic will get loaded as eth0 . That can be easily aranged. You Do want the internal nic loaded automatically with the network startup. OK, let's check my own particular case. Currently, I have two computers connected into a little home network. The second computer is almost always switched off, so the home network is seldom run. Do you propose that I run the home network ( being off almost all the time ) as eth0? I personally prefer running it as eth1, so to avoid the case of eth0 down and eth1 up. However I'm not so sure how smart is it to load the external interface as a part of /etc/init.d/network start : Suppose that the cables network is unavailable for some reason . What happens then? You can't even access your computer from the local console, because it is still delayed trying to connect to the cables. It has pretty sensible timeout, as far as I remember. On my home network I set it not to load the external NIC automatically. It is loaded from init.d, but only after sshd starts, so I have some access to my computer. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Net Loss of $100000000000 to AOL for 2002
Not yet slashdotted: AOL removed $45.5 billion in the last quarter. Total loss in 2002 was $99 billion. A new world record. (and a way ahead of its followers; It's like breaking the record for 100 meter, in 2 seconds instead of 9.9). As far as I understood, the total removals (charges in the official terminology) in 2002, included $407M of ICQ. On the other hand, ICQ is still claimed as one of the very few earning departments of AOL. CNN compares the net loss to about half the projected budget deficit for the entire federal government, or about 10 times the losses forecast for the nation's troubled airline industry. And contrary to the past, now they don't have any Case anymore... http://money.cnn.com/2003/01/29/technology/aol/index.htm -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314 P.O.B. 7004 Mobile: +972-50-23-7338 Kfar-Saba 44641, Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cabel modem installation.
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Alex Chudnovsky wrote:
On Thursday 30 January 2003 00:52, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
What's the big deal?
internal nic will get loaded as eth0 . That can be easily aranged. You Do
want the internal nic loaded automatically with the network startup.
OK, let's check my own particular case. Currently, I have two computers
connected into a little home network. The second computer is almost always
switched off, so the home network is seldom run. Do you propose that I run
the home network ( being off almost all the time ) as eth0? I personally
prefer running it as eth1, so to avoid the case of eth0 down and eth1 up.
What do you mean by off? The adapter itself plugged out of the computer?
I fit is not that, then you can simply load the module ('modprobe eth0' or
even more directly) to have the eth0 interface available, but not up.
Anyway, is there any reason not to have the network adapter always
connected?
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Re: OT: Net Loss of $100000000000 to AOL for 2002
Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not yet slashdotted: AOL removed $45.5 billion in the last quarter. Total loss in 2002 was $99 billion. A new world record. Well, IIRC in September 2000 Intel lost $91 billion in one day... -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Net Loss of $100000000000 to AOL for 2002
On 30 Jan 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not yet slashdotted: AOL removed $45.5 billion in the last quarter. Total loss in 2002 was $99 billion. A new world record. Well, IIRC in September 2000 Intel lost $91 billion in one day... you surely realize these are not losses 'in one day'. the stock value of the company (or of its holdings) dropped over a period of time, and in their reports for a given quarter, they decided to adjust their 'reported money worth' to (part of) this drop in stock prices. thus, this is loss just 'on paper', much like it was a gain just 'on paper' when the stock prices shot to the skies. ofcourse, companies often use this opportunity to hide their real losses (most likely a few hundreads of millions of dollars, or a few 10s of millions) - but these numbers are quite small relative to the 'net worth' loss of the company, so nobody looks at them when they can shout 'hei, they lost billions of dollars the last quarter!'. -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
