Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Oleg Kobets wrote: Hi. Since RedHat is a common name taken from a fairy tale, we can and will use the name to desribe the distro. If by their policy you cannot use the logo, then don't, but we shure can say it's a distro that is essentialy a red hat. There is no

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Oded Arbel
On Monday 04 August 2003 08:03, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: It looks to me that all you can say is based on RedHat's Linux distribution, or A derivative work of RedHat's Linux distribution. Now now, you can't say that - that would be an unapproved use of the RedHat trademarks. at most you can

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Oded Arbel wrote: On Monday 04 August 2003 08:03, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: It looks to me that all you can say is based on RedHat's Linux distribution, or A derivative work of RedHat's Linux distribution. Now now, you can't say that - that would be an unapproved use

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat: This includes their logo and name used on the software on their CDs. If you want to distribute the software, you need to remove their trademark from it. ... Does this violate the

failure notice (fwd)

2003-08-04 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Tzafrir, Your summary below is a concise and clear explanation of the situation. My decision concerning purchasing the the fonts from Masterfont for Sun's OpenOffice were based on the following considerations: 1. I assume that Culmus or some other group will eventually produce quality

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat: This includes their logo and name used on the software on their CDs. If you want to distribute the software, you need to remove their trademark

Re: failure notice (fwd)

2003-08-04 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote about failure notice (fwd): 1. I assume that Culmus or some other group will eventually produce quality TrueType and OpenType TrueType fonts with support for diacritics ... with diacritics. Masterfont gave us a timetable for adding these

Re: fonts for OpenOffice

2003-08-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
[ The original message was sent to ivrix. Jonathan replied to linux-il. I'll just comment on two of his points ] On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 10:40:09AM +0300, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: 3. There might be some legal exposure to Sun in distributing the Culmus fonts. The fact that the authors claim

Re: failure notice (fwd)

2003-08-04 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Mon, Aug 04, 2003, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote about failure notice (fwd): 1. I assume that Culmus or some other group will eventually produce quality TrueType and OpenType TrueType fonts with support for diacritics ... with diacritics.

Re: failure notice (fwd)

2003-08-04 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unfortunately, I'm getting similar complaints about Hspell, from people who think that supporting their favorite software is very important and very urgent but not willing to lift a finger to do this work. Counter- intuitively, the complaint-stream

RE: Whatsup *** SELF-PROMOTION *** :)

2003-08-04 Thread Josh Roden
Title: RE: Whatsup *** SELF-PROMOTION *** :) I think of the Linux community, as a whole, to be a family. I also think that there is place for criticism in this family but it should always be constructive criticism in a manner that will do some good. -Original Message- From: Aviram

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat: This includes their logo and name used on the software on their CDs. If you want to distribute the software, you need to remove their trademark from it. ... Does this

RE: Linux vs. MS-Windows XP in the Deaf World?

2003-08-04 Thread Josh Roden
Title: RE: Linux vs. MS-Windows XP in the Deaf World? There is GNOPERNICUS - a linux version of virgo that is said to be free not like the windows version. -Original Message- From: Oleg Kobets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:45 AM To: Omer Zak Cc:

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2003-08-04 Thread Moti Holzman
I have recently installed Redhat 9 on a Dell D800 laptop. There is an external USB disk (120GB) attached to the laptop. Everything seems to be working fine. However, when I connect the laptop to a docking station, Linux does not recognize the USB disk. When the laptop is running in Windows with

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
There are two things that worry me in this regard: A. Apparently, trademark laws allow me to give truthful factual information without asking the trademark's owner for permission. As such, they should not be allowed to forbid me to say This CD is bit-for-bit identical to RedHat(r) 9. They seem to

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Nadav Har'El wrote on 2003-08-04: I don't think that this violates the spirit of the GPL. The GPL was designed to allow forking, but it wasn't meant to encourage confusion - forks should be named differently, to prevent confusion. I can't see any requirements as to the name under which you

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Shachar Shemesh wrote: There are two things that worry me in this regard: A. Apparently, trademark laws allow me to give truthful factual information without asking the trademark's owner for permission. As such, they should not be allowed to forbid me to say This CD is bit-for-bit identical to

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Oron Peled
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 15:18:30 +0300 Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you give the *software* it contains to others? can you get the source? I cannot redistribute *unmodified* copies *if* the trademarks are embedded in the sources. So the distro may be non-free if the logos etc are

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Oron Peled wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 15:18:30 +0300 Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you give the *software* it contains to others? can you get the source? I cannot redistribute *unmodified* copies *if* the trademarks are embedded in the sources. So the distro may be non-free if

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003, Oron Peled wrote about Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat: I cannot redistribute *unmodified* copies *if* the trademarks are embedded in the sources. So the distro may be non-free if the logos etc are bound to the software in non-trivial ways. I am

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat: This includes their logo and name used on the software on their CDs. If you want to distribute the software, you need to remove their trademark

Novell just bought Ximian

2003-08-04 Thread Lior Kesos
apropo commercial vs opensource relationships - http://www.ximian.com./about_us/press_center/press_releases/index.html?pr=novell -- Lior Kesos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content Development Team Leader == Everything should be made as simple as possible - but not simpler --

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2003-08-04 Thread Moti Holtzman
Maxim K. wrote: \On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Moti Holzman wrote: I have recently installed Redhat 9 on a Dell D800 laptop.There is an external USB disk (120GB) attached to the laptop. Everything seems to be working fine. However, when I connect the laptop to a docking station, Linux does not

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
[Warning: LONG EMAIL! I tried to collect all relevant quotaions I found...] Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote on 2003-08-04: On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: This includes their logo and name used on the software on their CDs. If you want

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Doron Ofek
04 2003, 16:03, Gilad Ben-Yossef : Oron Peled wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 15:18:30 +0300 Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you give the *software* it contains to others? can you get the source? I cannot redistribute *unmodified* copies *if* the trademarks are embedded

HP 694/5C Printer Replacements

2003-08-04 Thread Daniel Feiglin
Hello folks! I have an HP 695C connected through the parallel port on my Linux box and which also functions as the network printer for 2-3 Win 98 clients, and an HP 964C similarly attached on my home Lin/Win system. What they (almost) have in common, is that the HP 694C is bar minan and the

Re: Trademarks, copyright licenses, the GPL and RedHat

2003-08-04 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Doron Ofek wrote on 2003-08-04: 04 2003, 16:03, Gilad Ben-Yossef : Oron Peled wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 15:18:30 +0300 Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you give the *software* it contains to others? can you get the source? I cannot redistribute *unmodified*

[OT]: Novell just bought Ximian and related trivia

2003-08-04 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Lior Kesos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: apropo commercial vs opensource relationships - http://www.ximian.com./about_us/press_center/press_releases/index.html?pr=novell I noticed it earlier today and chuckled to myself that it was all well as long as Novell doesn't sell Ximian to SCO. Then I

Re: [OT]: Novell just bought Ximian and related trivia

2003-08-04 Thread dittigas
Forbes did a very thorough coverage of Canopy Group's investment history, with some interesting links, some you've mentioned. http://www.forbes.com/2003/06/18/cz_dl_0618linux.html Dittigas, On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 19:39, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Lior Kesos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: apropo

Re: HP 694/5C Printer Replacements

2003-08-04 Thread dittigas
This web site might be a good starting point. It rates printers according to their usability in Linux. See: http://www.linuxprinting.org There were also some comments of readers on Epson Stylus and HP 3180 on this report in Wahtsup.org.il. See: http://whatsup.org.il/article.php?sid=1331

RE: Whatsup *** SELF-PROMOTION *** :)

2003-08-04 Thread dittigas
So far it seems this was an exception and most, including the original poster of a previous NO SPAM Plz type of reply, expressed thier disapproval and appologized, either to me personaly or here as well, of this type of bashing. But too much was allready been said about what I hope was a very

Re: HP 694/5C Printer Replacements

2003-08-04 Thread Barak Bloch
Hey HP 3820 work well for me, and have official drivers for linux (known as hpijs) it's cost something like 400 nis i think and worth any shekel. I use it via usb (modprobe printer if u ask) and it's work like charm. If you want use parallel port or don't have usb - u can connect the printer

Modem ale 070 and Samsung

2003-08-04 Thread Ivan Vanney
Hello people from Israel, Im new inmigrant from Argentina, i have modem ALE070, for internet Zahav, i can connect to internet with this modem with Red Hat, Debian,Conectiva,MDK,and others...but now i need change my modem ALE 070 for Samsung, because i want connect to internet with Solaris and

Hi people,i need change my modem ALE070 for SAMSUNG...

2003-08-04 Thread Ivan Vanney
Hello people from Israel, Im new inmigrant from Argentina, i have modem ALE070, for internet Zahav, i can connect to internet with this modem with Red Hat, Debian,Conectiva,MDK,and others...but now i need change my modem ALE 070 for Samsung, because i want connect to internet with Solaris and

Re: HP 694/5C Printer Replacements

2003-08-04 Thread Kfir Lavi
I bought epson because i have seen at www.linuxprinting.org that it has the most complete drivers, but the heads clog every second day. Look for HP, they are very strong. Another parameter is the ink. You can look at www.zap.co.il to compare ink prices. After you choose a few printers, search

New Shape to Linux.Israel.Net web site

2003-08-04 Thread Linux Israel Net
Hello, In addition to our Linux.Israel.Net conference and Installation party I'm very happey to announce the Linux.Israel.Net web site have a new look ,shape and design. Please visit the web site at: http://linux.israel.net Thanks, Miki (Moshe) Barzilay Linux.Israel.Net

Sort weirdness

2003-08-04 Thread Oren Held
Hi, I've just encountered one of the strangest bugs I've seen in Linux.. Just like an amateur Operating System, one of the core unix tools - sort - behaves different on different Linux (or more correct: sort) versions. When I try to sort the next input: ab c a c It makes sense that 'a c' would

Re: Sort weirdness

2003-08-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 12:14:09AM +0300, Oren Held wrote: Hi, I've just encountered one of the strangest bugs I've seen in Linux.. Just like an amateur Operating System, one of the core unix tools - sort - behaves different on different Linux (or more correct: sort) versions. When I

Re: Sort weirdness

2003-08-04 Thread Oron Peled
On 05 Aug 2003 00:14:09 +0300 Oren Held [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just like an amateur Operating System, one of the core unix tools - sort - behaves different on different Linux (or more correct: sort) versions. My guess -- you have different locale settings (which affect collating sequences).

Re: Modem ale 070 and Samsung

2003-08-04 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 12:37:23PM -0700, Ivan Vanney wrote: Hello people from Israel, I??m new inmigrant from Argentina, i have modem ALE070, for internet Zahav, i can connect to internet with this modem with Red Hat, Debian,Conectiva,MDK,and others...but now i need change my modem ALE 070