RE: sendsms email notification.

2003-08-14 Thread Tzahi Fadida
well, first i already wrote it so it doesn't matter :). second, why should i d/l the 
file to my comp
when all i need is the header.
anyway, an added bonus of writing it, is the ability to customize it for my needs, and 
so i did. in
addition, sendsms was in need of updating for pelephone users, which i can thanks 
nadav for that.
as for using other script, i asked a week ago in the list with no replies, and 
searched but didn't
find any. in any case if i did found one surely it would need to be changed to work 
with sendsms
properly with the write lengths and whitespaces.

as for the pop3check reference tzafrir now sent to the list, a simple command 
execution is not
enough since i want to customize the from subject and some of the body and this 
complex C program is
just an overkill. 100 lines are enough:
http://tx.technion.ac.il/~tzahi/pop2sms

as for the frequency of mails, of course i am not going to use it on this mailing list 
;), but
my personal mail recieves few emails a day that are important to me, and i want to be 
notified when
they do.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Oleg Goldshmidt
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: sendsms email notification.


 Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I can't use procmail since i am not in possesion of the computer
  that runs the pop3 service.

 It seems to me that without procmail your notifier will be usable only
 if you get no more than a few emails a day. The normal linux-il
 traffic alone will swamp your phone unless you read it as digest ;-)
 Not only that, do you *really* need or want your cell phone to beep
 for every odd email, including spam, that arrives in your mailbox?

 You say you don't have access to the computer that runs the POP3
 service. Fine. However, I assume you do have access to a computer that
 runs the POP3 client for you, and where you have sendsms
 installed. Rather than write the whole thing in perl, have you thought
 of simply running fetchmail or equivalent on it, and use
 procmail to invoke sendsms on emails you want to be notified of, such
 as critical failures on the computer system you administer.

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Re: Where did KPackage go in RH9 ?

2003-08-14 Thread Oded Arbel
On Thursday 14 August 2003 11:11, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 kpackage makes low-level rpm operations too easy, instead of just
 possible :-)

Nothing wrong with that.

 One problem with such GUIs is that they lock the rpm database while
 they're running (not just while installing packages).

KPackage doesn't do that - while I don't use it anymore, at the time I was 
running several instances of it concurrently with other RPM tools w/o a 
problem.

KPackage was probably moved to its own rpm - try kdeadmin-kpackage.

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Re: GPL licence issue

2003-08-14 Thread Omer Zak

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Oded Arbel wrote:

 On Tuesday 12 August 2003 23:38, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Than another guy, took my library, transform it to another
   language, released it as GPL also, but deleted my
   copyright notice.

  IANAL.Having said that, copyright law, which is the basis of your power
  to limit distribution (force people to comply with your license) as an
  author of the work (your library in this case), only covers
  *experssion*, not ideas.

 IANAL too, but I think this might be considered in the same manner of a book
 that is translated to another language - but the copyright still holds.
 If hes version does everything (or most everything) the same as yours, but
 simply in a different language - then IMO this is copyright infringement.

 OTOH, it's ok to take ideas - if hes implementation is considerably different
 in details that are **not as a result of the other guys choice in languages**
 then he's in the clear but still a bastard.

In my opinion, if the other guy released his expression under GPL, then
the argument is moot.  shtirlitz could take the other guy's stuff,
reinstate his (shtirlitz's) credit and release a X.(Y+1) version with all
credits.
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Re: [OT?] New Computer

2003-08-14 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:12:27AM +0200, phoenix wrote:
 
I apologise if this is off the topic somewhat, but I figured I could
get some helpful answers here.
 
I have purchased a new computer and will be getting it delivered on
monday.
 
I was told by a friend to run memtest 86 to see if the 1 gig of 400mhz
dual channel DDR I purchased is good and up to speed.
I wanted to know two things. First, how do I do this? And second, what

Search google for 'memtest86'. You should easily find, download, put it
on a floppy and boot from it.
I would personally not trust it too much when talking about speed - it
is not a speed tester. I would trust it if it would say you have memory
errors (and I also got worse messages from it with bad motherboards).
I recommend to run it at least for a few hours, better a few days (if
you suspect problems) - I had machines that started reporting errors
only after a few hours.

other tests should I run on my system in order to verify that it is up
to par with what I ordered? I don't want to get conned. What should I
check, what should I look at to make sure I got what I paid for?

Generally, you can't be totally sure. You should start by comparing
accurately the list of parts you ordered with what you actually got.
Unless you suspect fakes, you should only check model numbers, not
actual performance. You could have checked what the performance
should be on the manufacturer's site before the parchase. Now you
can of course check the performance, but you would have no case if
it's lower then expected - unless you specifically ordered specific
performance.
You should then first try each part separately. memtest86 is good
for testing the memory (and to some extent, the cpu and board),
and there are such other programs for checking other things. You
can also try something like 'naturally' (google for it) - it's a CD
you boot from and stress test your hardware. Note I did not use it
myself, only read about it.

 
(I should note I'm not a computer wiz, so I don't know that much. I
will be at the linux insta-party getting linux put on this machine but
until then I am stuck with windows XP. So any tests that can't be run
under windows will have to wait till then. What can / should I do?)
 
Thanks in advance for helping me!

Good luck with your new machine,
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Re: [OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread linux_il
Hi,

Would Tal clear this up, please? I'm intrigued.

I feel like everyone else understood that you want to know if you changed
the interface of your own class while I read your question that you want to
know if the new version of the class depends on new external code.
Who's right?
Thanks,

--Amos

Tzahi Fadida wrote:

maybe i don't understand, why do you need to do this?
usualy you use the interface mechanism for this.
i.e:
create an interface that this class should implement and make sure
your internal java files know about this interface. and u'd never have to worry about 
it.
if you both use/implement the same interface then it has to comply, else it wouldn't 
comply. just make sure you put the interface in a seperate java file and that you both 
use it.
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tal Achituv
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:05 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage
I'm looking for a solution for internal affairs :-) not with clients...

we do that class changing thing allot here, and looking for a way to resolve
this dependency issue.. I have the sources.. no need to decompile...
Is there a tool that supports this advanced versioning issue?

Thanks,
Tal.
-Original Message-
From: Ron Gidron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:51 PM
To: 'Tal Achituv'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage
Well, 

I hope you guys don't use an obfuscator :-)
What I would do is first check CVS (or whatever you use) and see what
changes were made in the class. If you find that these changes are to
dramatic then you can get the class from the clients application, decompile
it (google java decompiler) fix the code, recompile and send them the fixed
class. Ugly yes! But it should work.
Be good.
Ron
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tal Achituv
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:14 PM
To: 'Ron Gidron'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage
Yes, When I wrote the mail I was confused myself - as there is no real
link in java...
here's the problem:

I have to supply a patch for a software build 18, and am currently working
on build 22 of the same software.
I wonder if I can just give them the class from the b22 and put it instead
the patch requiring class of the b18...
Now I need to wait until runtime to see if this class really fits... :-)

seems like I'm not the first to hit this problem... as in the C world you
simply link...
(I know the class from b22 compiles... I don't know if it links with all
the others correctly... [lets say a method signature changed])...
Do you know if there is a solution in the industry??

Tal.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Gidron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:04 PM
To: 'Tal Achituv'
Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage
How do you mean **links**?
AFAIK Class files are independent and are executed as such by the JVM,
There is no traditional linkage done in Java and there is no linker. The JVM
is responsible to download all the referred classes that you class refers to
AT RUNTIME...
I hope I understood the question well, please feel free to ask again or
elaborate your previous question.
Regards
Ron 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tal Achituv
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:00 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [OT] Java linkage
Hi all

Is there a tool / method to check if a compiles java object (class) links
correctly?
Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Tal Achituv.
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Re: [OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread Oded Arbel
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 19:04, Tal Achituv wrote:
 I'm looking for a solution for internal affairs :-) not with clients...

 we do that class changing thing allot here, and looking for a way to
 resolve this dependency issue.. I have the sources.. no need to
 decompile...


 here's the problem:

 I have to supply a patch for a software build 18, and am currently working
 on build 22 of the same software.

 I wonder if I can just give them the class from the b22 and put it instead
 the patch requiring class of the b18...

 Now I need to wait until runtime to see if this class really fits... :-)

I don't think I understood the issue here : you simply want to know if your 
class from build 22 will work with the system from build 18 ? if you have a 
decent configuration management (versioning and building system) simply 
reconstruct build 18 somewhere safe, put in the new class and run it - see 
what the JVM complains about. 

another options is simply to simulate build 18 environment while you compile - 
set the compile class path to only include source versions from build 18. 
then the compiler itself will tell you what you are missing. while it is true 
that linking only occures at run time, the compiler tries its best to make 
sure you have all your linking dependencies in place by checking them at 
compile time.

As Amos noted - this is only good if you're not using dynamic class loading. 
if you do, then all bets are off and you are on your own.

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Re: sendsms email notification.

2003-08-14 Thread foofoo
Nadav,
I've being using a version I've downloaded from your website two days ago.
the message I'm getting when trying to send sms:
Error sending message: 302 Found (redirection IIRC)
btw i have pay_orange true in my ~/.sendsmsrc file (since I got the message
saying unrecognized response etc..).
and It works via the web interface, they probably changes the URL.

Best Regards and thanks for your interest.


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From: Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: foofoo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: sendsms email notification.


 On Tue, Aug 12, 2003, foofoo wrote about Re: sendsms email
notification.:
  Speaking of sendsms, it seems to be broken for orange, anybody knows why
or
  of a fix?

 When did this breakage occur?

 I released a new version fixing a spourious error message (though
everything
 was working correctly) a couple of weeks ago. See if that helps and tell
 me if not.
 http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms

 Please keep me informed of whether sendsms is working/not-working on
various
 providers, because I only have a Cellcom phone myself.

 P.S. Thanks to Tzahi for pointing out that Pelephone support no longer
works
 in sendsms. Interesting that nobody noticed this except him... Anyway, I
 already sent him a simple patch to make it work (using ICQ's site), and
I'll
 release a fixed version shortly.

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Re: strcmp question(Or maybe SQL Injection).

2003-08-14 Thread Postmaster
Amir Hardon wrote:

I have a PHP site which uses HTTP user authentication,
I just noticed something wierd at the logs, I saw someone is accessing with 
username '-', which doesn't exist.
I tried loging in using username '-' with no password and I was in!

The only thing I can think of is that '-' is a special character for strcmp,
here is my authentication function(I removed the database connection part):
function authenticate(){
if (!isset($_SERVER['PHP_AUTH_USER'])) {
header('WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=garin');
header('HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized');
echo 'Illegal entrance';
return FALSE;
}
else {

$euser=mysql_escape_string(htmlspecialchars($_SERVER['PHP_AUTH_USER'],ENT_QUOTES));;
$query='SELECT password FROM garin WHERE username=\'' . $euser . '\';';
$result = mysql_query($query) or die(mysql_error());
$row= mysql_fetch_array($result,MYSQL_ASSOC);
Which means that if the query returns 0 rows (for example, because the 
username doesn't exist), $row is empty, no?


if(strcmp(htmlspecialchars($_SERVER['PHP_AUTH_PW'],ENT_QUOTES),$row[password])
|| (strcmp($euser,mysql_escape_string(htmlspecialchars(- ){
Which means that the strcmp has no reason to fail. NULL is implicitly 
converted into an empty string, IIRC. You should check for NULL return 
on $row, and fail the authentication.

			header('WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=garin');
			header('HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized');
			echo Illegal entrance.;
			return FALSE;
		}
		$query='UPDATE garin SET lastlogin=NOW() WHERE username=\'' . $euser . 
'\';';
		mysql_query($query);
		return TRUE;
	}
}

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Hebrew PDF generation

2003-08-14 Thread Ami Chayun
Hi,
Does anyone know a commandline tool to create a PDF from HTML in Hebrew?

P.S. Htmldoc does not seem to be able to accomplish this.

Thanks,
Ami


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strcmp question(Or maybe SQL Injection).

2003-08-14 Thread Amir Hardon
I have a PHP site which uses HTTP user authentication,
I just noticed something wierd at the logs, I saw someone is accessing with 
username '-', which doesn't exist.
I tried loging in using username '-' with no password and I was in!

The only thing I can think of is that '-' is a special character for strcmp,
here is my authentication function(I removed the database connection part):

function authenticate(){
if (!isset($_SERVER['PHP_AUTH_USER'])) {
header('WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=garin');
header('HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized');
echo 'Illegal entrance';
return FALSE;
}
else {

$euser=mysql_escape_string(htmlspecialchars($_SERVER['PHP_AUTH_USER'],ENT_QUOTES));;
$query='SELECT password FROM garin WHERE username=\'' . $euser . '\';';
$result = mysql_query($query) or die(mysql_error());
$row= mysql_fetch_array($result,MYSQL_ASSOC);

if(strcmp(htmlspecialchars($_SERVER['PHP_AUTH_PW'],ENT_QUOTES),$row[password])
|| (strcmp($euser,mysql_escape_string(htmlspecialchars(- ){

header('WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=garin');
header('HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized');
echo Illegal entrance.;
return FALSE;
}
$query='UPDATE garin SET lastlogin=NOW() WHERE username=\'' . $euser . 
'\';';
mysql_query($query);
return TRUE;
}
}


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Re: [OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread Voguemaster
This is indeed a viable and good solution. What strikes me odd is that
you have the sources, you KNOW the changes made (obviously you also
document them :). You should at least have an idea about your class
interfaces. Following good OO design for your class interfaces usually
means almost no problems in this sort of situations.
Also, any added functionality that imports other classes not found in
build 18 should be trivially obvious..
Eli

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:22:02 +0300, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

On Wednesday 13 August 2003 19:04, Tal Achituv wrote:
I'm looking for a solution for internal affairs :-) not with clients...

we do that class changing thing allot here, and looking for a way to
resolve this dependency issue.. I have the sources.. no need to
decompile...


here's the problem:

I have to supply a patch for a software build 18, and am currently 
working
on build 22 of the same software.

I wonder if I can just give them the class from the b22 and put it 
instead
the patch requiring class of the b18...

Now I need to wait until runtime to see if this class really fits... :-)
I don't think I understood the issue here : you simply want to know if 
your class from build 22 will work with the system from build 18 ? if you 
have a decent configuration management (versioning and building system) 
simply reconstruct build 18 somewhere safe, put in the new class and run 
it - see what the JVM complains about.

another options is simply to simulate build 18 environment while you 
compile - set the compile class path to only include source versions from 
build 18. then the compiler itself will tell you what you are missing. 
while it is true that linking only occures at run time, the compiler 
tries its best to make sure you have all your linking dependencies in 
place by checking them at compile time.

As Amos noted - this is only good if you're not using dynamic class 
loading. if you do, then all bets are off and you are on your own.

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RE: [OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread Ron Gidron
Well, 

I hope you guys don't use an obfuscator :-)
What I would do is first check CVS (or whatever you use) and see what changes were 
made in the class. If you find that these changes are to dramatic then you can get the 
class from the clients application, decompile it (google java decompiler) fix the 
code, recompile and send them the fixed class. Ugly yes! But it should work.

Be good.
Ron

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tal Achituv
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:14 PM
To: 'Ron Gidron'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage

Yes, When I wrote the mail I was confused myself - as there is no real
link in java...

here's the problem:

I have to supply a patch for a software build 18, and am currently working
on build 22 of the same software.

I wonder if I can just give them the class from the b22 and put it instead
the patch requiring class of the b18...

Now I need to wait until runtime to see if this class really fits... :-)

seems like I'm not the first to hit this problem... as in the C world you
simply link...

(I know the class from b22 compiles... I don't know if it links with all
the others correctly... [lets say a method signature changed])...

Do you know if there is a solution in the industry??

Tal.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Gidron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:04 PM
To: 'Tal Achituv'
Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage


How do you mean **links**?
AFAIK Class files are independent and are executed as such by the JVM,
There is no traditional linkage done in Java and there is no linker. The JVM
is responsible to download all the referred classes that you class refers to
AT RUNTIME...

I hope I understood the question well, please feel free to ask again or
elaborate your previous question.

Regards
Ron 

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On Behalf Of Tal Achituv
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:00 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [OT] Java linkage

Hi all

Is there a tool / method to check if a compiles java object (class) links
correctly?

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Tal Achituv.

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Re: sendsms email notification.

2003-08-14 Thread foofoo
my deepest apologies. I am broken. not the sendsms ;)
I used the wrong password. I've re-registered today and got a new password.
I wrongly assumed that the new password should be used. how stupid can one
be ;)

thanks anyway.

- Original Message - 
From: Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: foofoo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: sendsms email notification.


 On Wed, Aug 13, 2003, foofoo wrote about Re: sendsms email
notification.:
  Nadav,
  I've being using a version I've downloaded from your website two days
ago.
  the message I'm getting when trying to send sms:
  Error sending message: 302 Found (redirection IIRC)

 I just tried sending a message to an 054 phone, and the person reported
 he got it correctly. So there has to be some error in what you're doing.
 Are you sure you have my latest version? Please try

 grep Version `which sendsms`

 And tell me what you see.

  btw i have pay_orange true in my ~/.sendsmsrc file (since I got the
message
  saying unrecognized response etc..).

 I don't have this flag, and it still works...


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Re: strcmp question(Or maybe SQL Injection).

2003-08-14 Thread Amir Hardon
On Thursday 14 August 2003 20:49, Amir Hardon wrote:
 I have a PHP site which uses HTTP user authentication,
 I just noticed something wierd at the logs, I saw someone is accessing with
 username '-', which doesn't exist.
 I tried loging in using username '-' with no password and I was in!

 The only thing I can think of is that '-' is a special character for
 strcmp, here is my authentication function(I removed the database
 connection part):

 function authenticate(){
   if (!isset($_SERVER['PHP_AUTH_USER'])) {
   header('WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=garin');
   header('HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized');
   echo 'Illegal entrance';
   return FALSE;
   }
   else {

 $euser=mysql_escape_string(htmlspecialchars($_SERVER['PHP_AUTH_USER'],ENT_Q
UOTES));; $query='SELECT password FROM garin WHERE username=\'' . $euser .
 '\';'; $result = mysql_query($query) or die(mysql_error());
   $row= mysql_fetch_array($result,MYSQL_ASSOC);

 if(strcmp(htmlspecialchars($_SERVER['PHP_AUTH_PW'],ENT_QUOTES),$row[passwo
rd])


The next line was added out of panic, it doesn't exist in the original script, 
and another weird thing happened when I added this line, strcmp always 
matched.
Is this somekind of a wildcard? for strcmp?

   || (strcmp($euser,mysql_escape_string(htmlspecialchars(- ){

   header('WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=garin');
   header('HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized');
   echo Illegal entrance.;
   return FALSE;
   }
   $query='UPDATE garin SET lastlogin=NOW() WHERE username=\'' . $euser .
 '\';';
   mysql_query($query);
   return TRUE;
   }
 }


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Re: OpenOffice: How to set the main language of a document to Hebrew?

2003-08-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 04:40:13PM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 04:06:07PM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
 
 Shlomi Fish wrote:
 
 Hi! I created a document in OpenOffice:
 
 http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/homesteading/
 
 The document's main language is Hebrew, but I started writing it with an
 English main language. As a result, the headings, endnotes and in the 
 HTML
 some of the bullets, are displayed left-aligned. How do I change the main
 language of this specific document to Hebrew?
 
 I'm using OpenOffice 1.1 RC.
 
 (someone recommended me to use Tools - Options - Language Settings 
 but
 this will set the application-wide defaults, which I don't want to.
 
 
 1. Select all the text.
 2. Right click and choose Edit Paragraph Style...
 3. In the Alignment tab, change the Text direction property to 
 Right to left.
 4. Click OK.
 5. Rejoice.
 
 
 Somehow I was expecting a document-wide property. I believe Shlomi is
 interested here in the HTML produced from the document. Such methods
 produce ugly HTML: each paragraph has its oown specific visual
 formatting. Very unlike the spirit of HTML.  Not to mention that the
 HTML gets inflated.
 
 And you get a property-wide base direction of LTR that is overriden on
 each paragraph. Take a look at the bullets, where it accidentally wasn't
 overriden.
 
 In other words: All that is needed is a way to tell OpenOffice to change
 the BODY tag a bit. Not to further inflate the produced html.
 
 
 I agree that to set the direction of each paragraph seperatly in HTML is 
 very ugly. However, the question Shlomi present to us was how to 
 override the default paragraph direction in a *OpenOffice* document and 
 this is what I provided. If one wants to produce proper HTML one is 
 advised to write HTML and not a use a WSIWYG editor.
 
 Moreover, I also agree that a OpenOffice is missing the property of a 
 *document* default paragraph direction, as opposed to the existing 
 general default paragpraph direction but AFAIK one does not currently 
 exists.

In my copy of OpenOffice (beta2):

Tools-Options-Language-Languages-

  either:
- locale settings
  or:
- default languages for this document (Looks more sensible, but 
  greyed-out here)

Then a produced HTML has the charset UTF-8 (no more entetis for Hebrew),
and the docuemnt's body tag has 'LANG= DIR=RTL'.

It is far from producing efficient HTML. One small example: a simple
hiphen (squized between two Hebrew letters) produced the following:

  FONT FACE=Arial, sans-serifSPAN LANG=en-US-/SPAN/FONT

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FW: [OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread Uzi Refaeli

If the new class (from b22) has different methods signeture or uses classes that the 
old build (18) wasnot using then he will have classnot found exception...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:01 PM
 To: Uzi Refaeli
 Subject: Re: [OT] Java linkage
 
 
 import caluses are meaningless here. They are just a 
 syntactic sugar to
 let programmers avoid having to type the full package names 
 every time they
 reffer to a class.
 The class signature also has nothing to do with this since as 
 I understand
 the question Tal wants to know whether all the 
 classes/methods used from
 within the new version of the class are available in the classpath at 
 runtime,
 he can, for instance, use some new com.company.xxx.AClass.AMethod()
 from the new version.
 (Not to mention dynamic class loading with reflection and 
 Class.forName()).
 
 I myself am not aware of such a tool. If you don't have dynamic class 
 loading
 in the code then you might want to look at some Apache Java 
 (Jakarta) side
 projects like BCEL (http://jakarta.apache.org/bcel/index.html) for 
 something to
 base your own code analysis on. (e.g. run a Java program with 
 the relevant
 CLASSPATH, extract reffered method calls and class names from the code
 and try Class.forName() on them. Then make sure that the 
 found class comes
 from a relevant CLASSPATH component. In addition use 
 reflection to lookup
 the particular method/constructor within the loaded class).
 
 --Amos
 
 Uzi Refaeli wrote:
 
 Donot know about such a tool but you can check that:
 * The new class dose not import classes that are not in the 
 application cp.
 * The class signature is the same.
 
 good luck
 
   
 
 From: Tal Achituv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:14 PM
 To: 'Ron Gidron'
 Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage
 
 
 Yes, When I wrote the mail I was confused myself - as there 
 is no real
 link in java...
 
 here's the problem:
 
 I have to supply a patch for a software build 18, and am 
 currently working
 on build 22 of the same software.
 
 I wonder if I can just give them the class from the b22 and 
 put it instead
 the patch requiring class of the b18...
 
 Now I need to wait until runtime to see if this class really 
 fits... :-)
 
 seems like I'm not the first to hit this problem... as in the 
 C world you
 simply link...
 
 (I know the class from b22 compiles... I don't know if it 
 links with all
 the others correctly... [lets say a method signature changed])...
 
 Do you know if there is a solution in the industry??
 
 Tal.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Gidron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:04 PM
 To: 'Tal Achituv'
 Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage
 
 
 How do you mean **links**?
 AFAIK Class files are independent and are executed as such 
 by the JVM,
 There is no traditional linkage done in Java and there is no 
 linker. The JVM
 is responsible to download all the referred classes that you 
 class refers to
 AT RUNTIME...
 
 I hope I understood the question well, please feel free to 
 ask again or
 elaborate your previous question.
 
 Regards
 Ron 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Tal Achituv
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:00 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: [OT] Java linkage
 
 Hi all
 
 Is there a tool / method to check if a compiles java object 
 (class) links
 correctly?
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Tal Achituv.
 
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RE: [OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread Tal Achituv
I'm looking for a solution for internal affairs :-) not with clients...

we do that class changing thing allot here, and looking for a way to resolve
this dependency issue.. I have the sources.. no need to decompile...

Is there a tool that supports this advanced versioning issue?

Thanks,
Tal.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Gidron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:51 PM
To: 'Tal Achituv'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage


Well, 

I hope you guys don't use an obfuscator :-)
What I would do is first check CVS (or whatever you use) and see what
changes were made in the class. If you find that these changes are to
dramatic then you can get the class from the clients application, decompile
it (google java decompiler) fix the code, recompile and send them the fixed
class. Ugly yes! But it should work.

Be good.
Ron

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tal Achituv
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:14 PM
To: 'Ron Gidron'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage

Yes, When I wrote the mail I was confused myself - as there is no real
link in java...

here's the problem:

I have to supply a patch for a software build 18, and am currently working
on build 22 of the same software.

I wonder if I can just give them the class from the b22 and put it instead
the patch requiring class of the b18...

Now I need to wait until runtime to see if this class really fits... :-)

seems like I'm not the first to hit this problem... as in the C world you
simply link...

(I know the class from b22 compiles... I don't know if it links with all
the others correctly... [lets say a method signature changed])...

Do you know if there is a solution in the industry??

Tal.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Gidron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:04 PM
To: 'Tal Achituv'
Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage


How do you mean **links**?
AFAIK Class files are independent and are executed as such by the JVM,
There is no traditional linkage done in Java and there is no linker. The JVM
is responsible to download all the referred classes that you class refers to
AT RUNTIME...

I hope I understood the question well, please feel free to ask again or
elaborate your previous question.

Regards
Ron 

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On Behalf Of Tal Achituv
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:00 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [OT] Java linkage

Hi all

Is there a tool / method to check if a compiles java object (class) links
correctly?

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Tal Achituv.

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2003-08-14 Thread Alon Altman

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RE: [OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread Tal Achituv
Yes, When I wrote the mail I was confused myself - as there is no real
link in java...

here's the problem:

I have to supply a patch for a software build 18, and am currently working
on build 22 of the same software.

I wonder if I can just give them the class from the b22 and put it instead
the patch requiring class of the b18...

Now I need to wait until runtime to see if this class really fits... :-)

seems like I'm not the first to hit this problem... as in the C world you
simply link...

(I know the class from b22 compiles... I don't know if it links with all
the others correctly... [lets say a method signature changed])...

Do you know if there is a solution in the industry??

Tal.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Gidron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:04 PM
To: 'Tal Achituv'
Subject: RE: [OT] Java linkage


How do you mean **links**?
AFAIK Class files are independent and are executed as such by the JVM,
There is no traditional linkage done in Java and there is no linker. The JVM
is responsible to download all the referred classes that you class refers to
AT RUNTIME...

I hope I understood the question well, please feel free to ask again or
elaborate your previous question.

Regards
Ron 

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On Behalf Of Tal Achituv
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:00 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [OT] Java linkage

Hi all

Is there a tool / method to check if a compiles java object (class) links
correctly?

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Tal Achituv.

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mutt FD leakge (display_filter?)

2003-08-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi

I use mutt-utf8-1.3.28-2.2 from debian/stable . 

Recently I had a number of occasions where mutt had too many open files
to keep functioning properly. From /proc/$mutt_pid/fd I see that most 
file handles are for non-existing temporary mutt files
(/tmp/mutt-$HOSTNAME-$NUMBER ) . 

A number of weeks ago I set display_filter=fribidi (on a UTF-8 terminal, 
e.g: uxterm) to display Hebrew better. I tend to keep my mutt sessions
as long as possible. So those leakages sum up.

Anybody else encountered this?

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Re: Console screensavers

2003-08-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 03:24:11PM +0300, Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani wrote:
 I remember the old days, where I've use Norton Commander on my DOS box...
 NC had this cool little feature - he would turn on a screensaver in graphical 
 mode (it was 320x240x8 I think)...
 
 I was wondering if Linux has something similar to this (If the kernel supports 
 framebuffers some cool stuff can be made)
 
 Anyone?

Who needs framebuffer?

(or even svga)


e.g: try 'rain' from bsdgames. (There is also 'sl'. In debian it was put
to a separate package).


aalib has quite a few nice demos. (the package 'bb' on debian is one).

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Re: Where did KPackage go in RH9 ?

2003-08-14 Thread Diego Iastrubni
 , 14  2003, 11:11, Tzafrir Cohen :
 It is indeed a GUI for the wrong thing. Redhat provides you up2date for
 your package management. it comes with its own GUI.

 If you're not happy with that, you can use apt. Synaptic is said to be a
 nice GUI for that.

 kpackage makes low-level rpm operations too easy, instead of just
 possible :-)

 [ Missing piece: how to set-up a local apt repository ]
does apt also look in the cdroms or just on online?

  One problem with such GUIs is that they lock the rpm database while
 they're running (not just while installing packages).
rpmdrake does not :-)

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Dial up (ppp) connecion to ActCom fails to get out to the Internet.

2003-08-14 Thread Shaul Karl
  Can you advise what to do with the following?

$ ping -c1 192.115.23.205
PING 192.115.23.205 (192.115.23.205) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- 192.115.23.205 ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms

$

$ /sbin/route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
192.115.23.205  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00
ppp0
192.168.0.8 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.252 U 0  00
eth0
0.0.0.0 192.115.23.205  0.0.0.0 UG0  00
ppp0
$

  Setting the default policies of iptables to ACCEPT change nothing.
  Omitting the -c1 to ping and monitoring the `TX bytes' for
/sbin/ifconfig ppp0 shows that data continually get sent.
  /var/log/syslog has:
  
Aug  9 18:16:23 calanit pppd[2130]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
Aug  9 18:16:46 calanit pppd[2130]: Serial connection established.
Aug  9 18:16:46 calanit pppd[2130]: using channel 5
Aug  9 18:16:46 calanit pppd[2130]: Using interface ppp0
Aug  9 18:16:46 calanit pppd[2130]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS2
Aug  9 18:16:47 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 
0xc94d7631 pcomp accomp]
Aug  9 18:16:50 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 
0xc94d7631 pcomp accomp]
Aug  9 18:16:53 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4a asyncmap 0xa auth 
pap magic 0xda88d684 pcomp accomp]
Aug  9 18:16:53 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4a asyncmap 0xa auth 
pap magic 0xda88d684 pcomp accomp]
Aug  9 18:16:53 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 
0xc94d7631 pcomp accomp]
Aug  9 18:16:56 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 
0xc94d7631 pcomp accomp]
Aug  9 18:16:56 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4b asyncmap 0xa auth 
pap magic 0xda88e375 pcomp accomp]
Aug  9 18:16:56 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4b asyncmap 0xa auth 
pap magic 0xda88e375 pcomp accomp]
Aug  9 18:16:56 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 
0xc94d7631 pcomp accomp]
Aug  9 18:16:56 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xc94d7631]
Aug  9 18:16:56 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=shaul 
password=hidden]
Aug  9 18:16:57 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0xda88e375]
Aug  9 18:16:57 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ]
Aug  9 18:16:57 calanit pppd[2130]: kernel does not support PPP filtering
Aug  9 18:16:57 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 192.115.56.124 
compress VJ 0f 01]
Aug  9 18:16:57 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 deflate 15 
deflate(old#) 15 bsd v1 15]
Aug  9 18:16:57 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x4c 80 fd 01 01 00 0f 1a 04 
78 00 18 04 78 00 15 03 2f]
Aug  9 18:16:57 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x33 compress VJ 0f 00 
addr 192.115.23.205]
Aug  9 18:16:57 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x33 compress VJ 0f 00 
addr 192.115.23.205]
Aug  9 18:16:59 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x34 compress VJ 0f 00 
addr 192.115.23.205]
Aug  9 18:16:59 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x34 compress VJ 0f 00 
addr 192.115.23.205]
Aug  9 18:17:00 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 192.115.56.124 
compress VJ 0f 01]
Aug  9 18:17:00 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 addr 192.115.23.103]
Aug  9 18:17:00 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 addr 192.115.56.124 
compress VJ 0f 01]
Aug  9 18:17:00 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x2 addr 192.115.23.103]
Aug  9 18:17:00 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x3 addr 192.115.56.124 
compress VJ 0f 01]
Aug  9 18:17:00 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x3 addr 192.115.23.103]
Aug  9 18:17:00 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x4 addr 192.115.56.124 
compress VJ 0f 01]
Aug  9 18:17:00 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x4 addr 192.115.23.103]
Aug  9 18:17:00 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x5 addr 192.115.56.124 
compress VJ 0f 01]
Aug  9 18:17:01 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x5 addr 192.115.23.103]
Aug  9 18:17:01 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x6 addr 192.115.56.124 
compress VJ 0f 01]
Aug  9 18:17:01 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x6 addr 192.115.56.124]
Aug  9 18:17:01 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x7 addrs 192.115.56.124 
0.0.0.0 compress VJ 0f 01]
Aug  9 18:17:01 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x7 addrs 192.115.56.124 
0.0.0.0]
Aug  9 18:17:01 calanit pppd[2130]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x8 compress VJ 0f 01]
Aug  9 18:17:01 calanit pppd[2130]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x8 compress VJ 0f 01]
Aug  9 18:17:01 calanit pppd[2130]: local  IP address 192.115.56.124
Aug  9 18:17:01 calanit pppd[2130]: remote IP address 192.115.23.205
Aug  9 18:17:01 calanit pppd[2130]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid 2133)
Aug  9 18:17:03 calanit pppd[2130]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up 

Re: glibc locales

2003-08-14 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Amir Hardon wrote on 2003-08-10:

 I'm breaking my head trying to understand what exacty the glibc locale does?
 It seems like it sets some global encoding flag.
 Doing ls in a directory with Hebrew filenames gives me gibrish(yes the console
 font and encoding is set correctly), but after setting LC_ALL=he_IL ls will
 show me the filenames correctly.

 My problem is that when LC_ALL is set to he_IL many programs will output
 Hebrew text (for example date). I want to be able to view and write hebrew,
 while the default language is English.

* LC_ALL sets all aspects of the locale.
* LC_ALL is intended as an override, normally you want to set LANG
* LC_CTYPE controls the character set.
* LC_MESSAGES controls the messages.
* There are a lot more of these.

So try::

LANG=he_IL
LC_MESSAGES=en_US

man locale for more details.  The `locale` utility prints your current
effective settings.

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Re: disabling a built in pci device from linux

2003-08-14 Thread Oleg Kobets
Hmm, tough luck then. Is there no way to access the internal bios ? Try
searching on the manufacturer site, maybe there is some windows utility you
can use. I have yet not seen a computer, be it pc or laptop that is
completely inaccessable.


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To: Oleg Kobets [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: disabling a built in pci device from linux


 the problem is that I want to dissable the internal firewire card and
 use one that I plug in via pcmcia.  reason being that the internal one
 doesn't support certain devices and YET the program for said device only
 looks for the device on the first firewire card.

 Oleg Kobets wrote:

 recompile the kernel without the firewire support or disable the module
from
 loading ?
 
 
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 From: Nathan Fain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:08 PM
 Subject: disabling a built in pci device from linux
 
 
 
 
 I'm trying to disable the internet firewire device on a compaq presario
 1700.  There is no option in the bios to do so so I'm trying to find a
 way to do this inside linux.  (2.4 kernel, suse8.1 system)
 
 Any ideas?
 
 thanks
 
 
 
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Re: Any special news from Beyond Security?

2003-08-14 Thread Eli Marmor
Shaul Karl wrote:
 
 On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 02:23:22AM +0300, Eli Marmor wrote:
  Hi Aviram,
 
  P.S. Congrats for your (Beyond Security) business success!
 
 
   Was there something special that warrants the congratulations?
 Reporting special news of a local Linux related business is on topic,
 or so I hope.

Local Linux related business?

The news is that it is not local anymore;
Now, in addition to Australia, South Africa, Brasil (did you see the
shirts that Aviram wears? ;-), etc., there is also significant presence
in US.

The item was in the media in the last 24 hours; just go and look for
it.

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Next Perl Meeting - 14 August

2003-08-14 Thread Shlomi Fish

The next Israeli Perl Mongers meeting will take place on August 14, at
18:00 at the Dapey Zahav basement, Aba Hillel Str. No. 23, Ramat Gan. The
agenda will include lectures by Shlomi Fish (Graham's Function, LM-Solve)
and Ran Eilam (Recent Perl Project, Extreme Programming).

You can find directions how to get there, here:

http://www.perl.org.il/20030717.html

(note that it refers to a previous meeting)

Please confirm you are coming by sending me an E-mail.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish



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Re: Xvnc server.

2003-08-14 Thread Ely Levy
standart is 5
AFAIK debian doesn't load X at 2
also 2 is the default level of debian without X

Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel



On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote:

 ביום שלישי, 5 באוגוסט 2003, 17:04, כתבת:
  run level 3 being the no X level is a RedHatism, btw and may be
  different for other distros.

 used by Mandrake also. Debian uses 2for X no?
 What is the standard?
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Re: Where did KPackage go in RH9 ?

2003-08-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 11:40:53PM -0700, Erez Boym wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'v upgraded to RH9 and found out that KPackage is not
 in there. Found myself going back to rpm -i 

bad habit...

  rpm -Uvh

 
 Where did KPackage go ?

It is indeed a GUI for the wrong thing. Redhat provides you up2date for
your package management. it comes with its own GUI. 

If you're not happy with that, you can use apt. Synaptic is said to be a
nice GUI for that.

kpackage makes low-level rpm operations too easy, instead of just
possible :-)

[ Missing piece: how to set-up a local apt repository ] 

One problem with such GUIs is that they lock the rpm database while
they're running (not just while installing packages).

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Re: Lock the computer

2003-08-14 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Yedidyah Bar-David wrote on 2003-08-06:

 On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 12:33:54PM +0300, Kfir Lavi wrote:
  Hi,
  How can i lock the computer and don't get out from programs that are open?
  Also when i do apm -suspend?
  I want all the ttys and X to be passprotected.

 I never played with apm.
 set DontZap to true (read 'man XF86Config'), disable SysRq
 (with 'echo 0  /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq').
 Then run your favourite X screen locker (common ones are xscreensaver
 and xlockmore).

But X lockers still allow to switch VTs.  There is `vlock`, which in
the ``vlock -a`` mode disable console switching (just tried).  But it
doesn't work from X (locks only the current xterm, can still switch
consoles).  So you need to switch to some VT, login and run ``vlock
-a``.  Oh, and you need to have it installed.

ALternatively, you can completely disable VT switching in XF86Config
but that's ugly.

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Re: Fw: Re: hebrew mapping

2003-08-14 Thread Guy Cohen
No attachments? (don't answer please and take this off topic)

well here's the file inline:


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Re: Secure kernel problem

2003-08-14 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Oded Arbel wrote:


Oded Arbel wrote:
Mandrake's secure kernel (grsecurity patched) - when ever I try to run
eclipse executable, I get this error:
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:
/home/odeda/local/eclipse-dev/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.swt.gtk_3.0.0/o
s/linux/x86/libswt-pi-gtk-3016.so:
 /home/odeda/local/eclipse-dev/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.swt.gtk_3.0.0/
os/linux/x86/libswt-pi-gtk-3016.so: failed to map segment from shared
 object: Permission denied

Ok, let's explain what's going on here. One way to battle exploits of 
buffer oferflows  friends is to deny executing of code from the stack.

What usually happens with a buffer overrun expolit is that the stack 
that normally contains variable information is run over with executable 
code which is made to run with a clever trick (for details consult 
Smashing the stack for sun and profit by Aleph One: 
http://www.insecure.org/stf/smashstack.txt)

What the grsecruity patch tries to do then, is to disable the 
possability of running code that is located on the stack.

There are some applications though, that during their normal runtime 
will allocate some memory, write code to it and execute it. This is 
called trampoline code. I know some previous version of GCC used to do 
that for example. It seems the JDK tries to do the same (which makes 
sense if you stop to thing about a just ibn time compiler, btw).

I don't know enough about grsecurity patch to tell you exactly how to do 
this, but if it has an option of supporting trampoline code which i 
assume it does but maybe is disabled by default, enable it and recompile 
the kernel. This should solve the problem.

Hope this helps,
Gilad
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Linux cobference looking for Lecturers ( Backup Restore and crash recovery)

2003-08-14 Thread Linux Israel Net
Hi All
I need one more lecturer for the Linux Conference - Summer 2003.
The title is: Linux Backup , Restore and Recovery from Crash.
Please feel free to call me:
052-482173
Thanks
Miki (Moshe) Barzilay
Linux Israel Net
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Re: Linux Lectures at Tel Aviv University

2003-08-14 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Lior Kaplan wrote:

Hi Shlomi,

Someone ask Eddie that question at August Penguin II, and he said he will
check it.
That someone was me.

He also said that he is starting to build a lecture plan for the
whole semester. Until now, only at each meeting he announce the next lecture
(bi-weekly usually).
 

If Eddie cannot pull this through, there are other options. I am also 
willing to take the organization of content. I'm just waiting for a go 
ahead from Eddie.

As far as I know we (TAU Linux club) have a room at TAU on a bi-weekly
bases.
 

And he was to look into using the room the other biweekly phase for more 
advanced lectures.

I'm sure Eddie will respond as soon as he can.

Looking forward for your lectures,

   Lior Kaplan
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Re: Secure kernel problem

2003-08-14 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sunday 10 August 2003 08:16, Maxim K. wrote:
 i think you better report this to the eclipse linux group,

Ok.

 besides, it is a strange combination: Eclipse + Security patch :-)
 is it nesseccary ?

No, I just thought it might be fun :-)

Thanks.

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Re: Linux cluster on HPPA (PA-RISC) architecture

2003-08-14 Thread Orna Agmon
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:

 I guess it's either PVM (http://www.csm.ornl.gov/pvm/pvm_home.html) or
 one of those weird packages from SourceForge clustering section that I'm
 never sure what thwey do, like Condor: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/condor//

For Alpha (by Digital-Compaq-HP), which is also RISC, pvm works great, but
Condor does not work
at all.

Orna.

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Re: Kernel Patchsets

2003-08-14 Thread Oded Arbel
On Thursday 07 August 2003 02:09, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

   Do I need to make them available on /usr/src and then add them to the
   Kernel SRPM and then re-build it?
 
  If you want to add patches, you put them in the SOURCES directory under
  your RPM build tree (e.g. /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES on redhat,
  /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES on mandrake), and then add them to the spec file as
  described above. You can then test if they apply correctly by running

 Regarding the instructions that refered to /usr/src/REDHAT/ : I would
 recommend against building rpm packages as root. It is bad for your
 health, especially if you start editing the spec.

 In order to create packages as a user you need to create some files in
 your account, though. I know no built-in (in the rpm package) to
 automate this

Its no biggy - just create the base directory and define it in our .rpmmacros:
$_topdir /home/oded/rpm

now create the directories BUILD, SRPMS and RPMS/whatever arch you build for 
under that root and your set to fo - all other stuff gets generated.
Building packages as a regular user is recommended for testing, but if you 
want to build binary packages and distribute them, you'd better do that as 
root, otherwise you'll have lots of premissions and ownership issues.

  when you build the binary RPM, don't forget to also build the new source
  RPM using the -bs switch, so that you'll have a source RPM with all your
  new patches, that you can distribute.

 But this builds the kernel a number of times with various
 configurations. How do I tell it to build just for my architecture?
 Or with my config file?

It's easy to save the configuration you've setup in the source RPM and make 
sure that the SPEC file builds the kernel with your configuration. of course, 
depending on your setup, that config file may or may not cause your generated 
source RPM to be distributable to other users.

Mandrake has a complicated setup to allow the same source RPM to be built w/o 
changes for different architectures - I personally couldn't find head or 
tails in that mess :-)

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Re: Announce: Hspell 0.6

2003-08-14 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Cool work!

Can anyone post here (so it will be catched by google) a micro how-to use 
with various (KDE?) applications like kmail, etc? (I'm sure that there are 
some GNOME apps which use hspell as well)..

Thanks
Hetz

On Tuesday 05 August 2003 19:08, Nadav Har'El wrote:
 You say you want a revolution,
We all want to change the world.
 You tell me that it's evolution,
We all want to change the world!

 You say you've got a real solution,
We'd all love to see the plan.
 You ask me for a contribution,
We are doing what we can.

 Don't you know it's gonna be Alright?


 After a three months of unrest, the Hspell 0.6 revolution has begun!

 The two revolutionaries Nadav Har'El and Dan Kenigsberg created a website
 describing the New Word Order:
 http://www.ivrix.org.il/projects/spell-checker/

 Vive la revolution!


 Still wondering what Hspell 0.6 is all about?

  In this release, the Hspell front-end (the hspell program) was rewritten.
  The new front-end has many improvements over the old one, but also a few
  setbacks - features that are (temporarily) unavailable because they
 weren't yet ported to the new version.

  The improvements:

  * A huge performance improvement - hspell now starts up, and runs, at
 least 20 times faster than it used to and takes less than one fifth the
 memory.

  * The new front-end is written in C, so Hspell can now run on systems
 which do not have Perl. Perl is still needed for building Hspell from
 source.

  * The list of allowed prefixes was improved (joined work with Shlomo Yona)
and hspell now finally knows which prefixes are valid for most words,
reducing the risk of accepting misspellings as correct and reducing the
number of silly (and wrong) correction suggestions.

Note that unlike earlier versions, words listed in the user's personal
dictionary (~/.hspell_words or ./hspell_words) are no longer
 automatically accepted with prefixes. Also, these words are never used as
 suggested corrections.

  * hspell -a was made more compatible with the standard ispell -a
 (thanks to Mooffie). Hspell is now known to be used with LyX, KDE, Geresh
 and Emacs.

  The setbacks:

  * The -v option, that used to explain how valid words were derived, is
no longer available in this version. It is replaced by a -l option,
which in this release is weaker (it can only show a division of valid
words into prefix particle + word).

  * The -n option, that used to give hints on how to spell correctly, is
not available.

  * The likelyerrors feature (or recognizing certain words as
 theoretically correct but still very likely to be mistakes) is not
 available.

  * TeX-like repeated single quote ('') is not treated as double quotes ().

  * Long options (GNU's minus-minus options) are not supported in this
version.

  Some other changes:

  * Included in the distribution is a new utility multispell by Mooffie,
which can spell-check mixed Hebrew-English text by interfacing with two
spell-checkers (hspell and ispell) simultaneously. Multispell is better
than hspell's built-in slave mode (hspell -a -i) when the calling
 program can't deal with wrong word order in the results (e.g., Emacs has
 this issue.)

  * Some incorrect words purged or fixed, and more words added: over 600
base words added.

  * Vocabulary: 394,833 words (when including kinuyim on verbs)
based on 7462 nouns, 1533 adjectives, 5060 verb stems, and
1819 other words

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Re: when was the beginning?

2003-08-14 Thread linux_il
Hmmm. I'll have to cross-check with the people who did this
with me (e.g. Izar, formerly from Aduva, and maybe Marc was
involved too), but as far as I can tell I already installed Linux on
a 386 Olivetti as early as mid-1992 at HUJI CS. We had NFS and
YP (NIS) and AMD (automounter). No X11 at the beginning.
It was one of the 0.99 kernels.
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When did the use of Linux in Israel have begun ??
According to linux-forum at Tapuz there were 
some users in 1993. 
Follow the link to my question there: 
http://www.tapuz.co.il/tapuzforum/main/Viewmsg.asp?id=236msgid=17037541 

Maybe someone knows HARVEY STERN ??
Because he was the one who lit the fire... 
(according to Doron Ofek)

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Re: linux remote booting

2003-08-14 Thread Oron Peled
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 08:35:11 +0300
Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can boot linux with it semi-directly (with pxelinux), or through
 pxegrub (that's what we do here).

Unrelated question: I use grub/pxegrub as well. However, I couldn't
find a way (didn't hack the source yet) to have a boot menu with
both a network boot entries and several local boot entries. What
happens is that when I use regular grub, it doesn't know about network
devices (nd), and when I use pxegrub, it only knows about either (nd)
or local (not specific (hd)...).

My current ugly workaround is boot from pxegrub with a menu of:
local
network boot
And have the local entry boot a regual grub from the MBR with all
the local operating systems on this computer.

Any better options?

 If you can't find cheap cards with a suitable bootrom, and do not
 mind having small disks on the clients (which you want anyway for
 swap etc.), you can also put etherboot on the disks.

Or even on floppy which I once used on my old firewall. Since the etherboot
image is very small (1/2K ?) the bios access the floppy very quickly
(  1second) and it doesn't slow the boot like normal floppy-based linux.

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Re: [OT?] New Computer

2003-08-14 Thread foofoo



first,
cross posting is considered rude ;)
secondly memtest86 is OS independent on the sense that is has 
its own boot loader and boots of a diskette.


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  phoenix 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:12 
  AM
  Subject: [OT?] New Computer
  
  

  
I apologise if this is off the topic somewhat, but I figured I 
could get some helpful answers here.

I have purchased a new computer and will be getting it delivered on 
monday. 

I was told by a friend to run memtest 86 to see if the 1 gig of 
400mhz dual channel DDR I purchased is good and up to speed.
I wanted to know two things. First, how do I do this? And second, 
what other tests should I run on my system in order to verify that it is 
up to par with what I ordered? I don't want to get conned. What should I 
check, what should I look at to make sure I got what I paid for?

(I should note I'm not a computer wiz, so I don't know that much. I 
will be at the linux insta-party getting linux put on this machine but 
until then I am stuck with windows XP. So any tests that can't be run 
under windows will have to wait till then. What can / should I 
do?)

Thanks in advance for helping me!

  

  
  


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Re: Linux cluster on HPPA (PA-RISC) architecture

2003-08-14 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Guy Teverovsky wrote:
Greetings all,

I did some hardware inventory in the warehouse debris at work and found
some 6-7 HP workstations (J200, J210, J280).
I would like to bring some life to those and free their enslaved by
HP-UX souls. The big question is whether there is any chance running
some a Linux cluster on this architecture ? 
From my long-lasting trip to google I have found that Debian and Gentoo
support the architecture out of the box. What I have not found is any
evidence to running a Linux cluster on PA-RISC.
Any pointers are more then welcome...
Define which cluster: computational, high availability, web servering?

Gilad

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Re: Xvnc server.

2003-08-14 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
Grinberg, Hari wrote:

Hi,

 

Is there any possibility to run init level 3 on the server and get X 
on the client ?

Dear Hari,

First, when you post to this list we will very much appreciate it if you 
will leave the  13 lines of signature, especially the huge HTML 
signature that you use which is so big it nearly poked me in th eye...

Now for your qeustion - yes, there is no need for X to be running on the 
 server (which in X terminology is actually called display client). It 
only needs to run on the clients (which in X terminology are called 
display servers).

Simply put - X only needs to be running where the screen is.


OK, only NOW have I noticed the subject line that mentions Xvnc :-)

You will need to run Xvnc on the server of course, which technically is 
an X server - but not one that talks to the server graphics hardware.

So yes, you can do that without running X (as in - a GUI interface) on 
the server.

run level 3 being the no X level is a RedHatism, btw and may be 
different for other distros.

Gilad

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Re: sendsms email notification.

2003-08-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 08:50:59PM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
 I can't use procmail since i am not in possesion of the computer that 
 runs the pop3 service.

pop3? why didn't you say so in the first place?

 I solved it by writing an email notifier using perl 

Fun reinventing the will, hey?

One result of a quick search:

  http://pop3check.sourceforge.net/

Never tested it. It should be able to run an arbitrary command in the
event of a new mail.

Enjoy...

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Solved: /usr/sbin/pppd: bad local IP address 127.0.0.1

2003-08-14 Thread Shaul Karl
  Some time ago I have asked about the following:

$ /usr/sbin/pppd call provider dryrun
/usr/sbin/pppd: bad local IP address 127.0.0.1

I also added that

 $ ypcat hosts
 127.0.0.1   localhost loopback rakefet
^^^

  Apparently, removing rakefet solved the pppd problem. Any insight?
What other problems may be caused by that entry? Other then the ppp
problem it did seemed to work fine.

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Re: ARP table notification

2003-08-14 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Aviram Jenik wrote:
On Sunday 10 August 2003 09:42, Ran Milstein wrote:

Hi,
How can I get notification about a change in the ARP table ? is there a way
to register for a specific change ?
Search for arpwatch (comes with Redhat by default).

arpwatch is a daemon that uses pcap on the local Ethernet ports to 
listen for ARP packets and proccess them itself. It doesn't provide 
information on the internal ARP tables the kernel maintiains which Ran 
is intersted in.

You can get what you want by using netlink. man 7 rtnetlink and search 
for RTM_NEWNEIGH for the details.

And yes, it's supported in 2.2 :-)

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Re: [Job offers] QA

2003-08-14 Thread Shany Pozin

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 Hi Shani,
 
 As a person seeking a job right now, I followed the link posted - but it
 seems like the job repository is open to the specific institute
 graduates only... . 
 
 thanks,
 boaz.
 

Sorry .
Here's the job description:

QA Engineer 

Job Description:
Semi/Automatic testing of a web application backed by Linux core
servers
To begin QA activity in the company.
more description will be available to suitable candidates.
Requirements:
at least 2 Years experience in QA
QA methodologies - solid knowledge.
Linux - in a user level with scripting abilities 
Contact : 
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Re: Announce: Hspell 0.6

2003-08-14 Thread Diego Iastrubni
hspell kde micro howto:
* install kde=3.1.2.
* install hspell 0.5
* setup kde to use  hspell.

Thats all. Already tested and works out of the box.  

Enjoy.

 , 5  2003, 19:42, Hetz Ben Hamo :
 Cool work!

 Can anyone post here (so it will be catched by google) a micro how-to use
 with various (KDE?) applications like kmail, etc? (I'm sure that there are
 some GNOME apps which use hspell as well)..

 Thanks
 Hetz

 On Tuesday 05 August 2003 19:08, Nadav Har'El wrote:
  You say you want a revolution,
 We all want to change the world.
  You tell me that it's evolution,
 We all want to change the world!
 
  You say you've got a real solution,
 We'd all love to see the plan.
  You ask me for a contribution,
 We are doing what we can.
 
  Don't you know it's gonna be Alright?
 
 
  After a three months of unrest, the Hspell 0.6 revolution has begun!
 
  The two revolutionaries Nadav Har'El and Dan Kenigsberg created a website
  describing the New Word Order:
  http://www.ivrix.org.il/projects/spell-checker/
 
  Vive la revolution!
 
 
  Still wondering what Hspell 0.6 is all about?
 
   In this release, the Hspell front-end (the hspell program) was
  rewritten. The new front-end has many improvements over the old one, but
  also a few setbacks - features that are (temporarily) unavailable because
  they weren't yet ported to the new version.
 
   The improvements:
 
   * A huge performance improvement - hspell now starts up, and runs, at
  least 20 times faster than it used to and takes less than one fifth the
  memory.
 
   * The new front-end is written in C, so Hspell can now run on systems
  which do not have Perl. Perl is still needed for building Hspell from
  source.
 
   * The list of allowed prefixes was improved (joined work with Shlomo
  Yona) and hspell now finally knows which prefixes are valid for most
  words, reducing the risk of accepting misspellings as correct and
  reducing the number of silly (and wrong) correction suggestions.
 
 Note that unlike earlier versions, words listed in the user's personal
 dictionary (~/.hspell_words or ./hspell_words) are no longer
  automatically accepted with prefixes. Also, these words are never used as
  suggested corrections.
 
   * hspell -a was made more compatible with the standard ispell -a
  (thanks to Mooffie). Hspell is now known to be used with LyX, KDE, Geresh
  and Emacs.
 
   The setbacks:
 
   * The -v option, that used to explain how valid words were derived, is
 no longer available in this version. It is replaced by a -l option,
 which in this release is weaker (it can only show a division of valid
 words into prefix particle + word).
 
   * The -n option, that used to give hints on how to spell correctly, is
 not available.
 
   * The likelyerrors feature (or recognizing certain words as
  theoretically correct but still very likely to be mistakes) is not
  available.
 
   * TeX-like repeated single quote ('') is not treated as double quotes
  ().
 
   * Long options (GNU's minus-minus options) are not supported in this
 version.
 
   Some other changes:
 
   * Included in the distribution is a new utility multispell by Mooffie,
 which can spell-check mixed Hebrew-English text by interfacing with
  two spell-checkers (hspell and ispell) simultaneously. Multispell is
  better than hspell's built-in slave mode (hspell -a -i) when the calling
  program can't deal with wrong word order in the results (e.g., Emacs has
  this issue.)
 
   * Some incorrect words purged or fixed, and more words added: over 600
 base words added.
 
   * Vocabulary: 394,833 words (when including kinuyim on verbs)
 based on 7462 nouns, 1533 adjectives, 5060 verb stems, and
 1819 other words

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Re: L2TP with Israeli ISPs

2003-08-14 Thread Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani
On Thursday 07 August 2003 12:01, you wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Mix Sella
 
   Did somebody successfully used L2TP daemon
   (http://www.l2tpd.org/) to connect to
   Israeli ISP ? My is Barak via Matav cables.
 
  To the best of my knowledge, current L2TP support
  in Linux is very poor and not suited well for
  production. A person in Matav NOC also mentioned
  me once that their (ISP) implementation isn't the
  best either.

 I'm using Linux as my main OS at home. Is it means
 that there is no Internet with Barak for me ?

 I should change ISP ASAP... :(.

AFAIK, All Israeli ISPs uses PPtP in addition to L2TP...
So a PPtP tunnel to your ISP should be possible, thus making a Linux 
connection to your ISP possible :)

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[JOB] Office Network Administration

2003-08-14 Thread Omer Zak
Ozicom Communications LTD. is looking for someone to administer its
computers.
The required skills are:
1. Administration of a LAN of Linux workstations.
2. Familiarity with VMWare.
3. Mastery of Apache Web server and familiarity with Bugzilla.
4. Mastery of Perl and/or Python.

The possible working arrangement is flexible - by hour or part-time.

Full-time work is possible if you have the interest and knowledge to
participate in our non-Linux based projects.

If you are interested, send your resume (no Microsoft proprietary
formats, please!) by E-mail to support at ozicom.co.il.

   Thanks,
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 Cellular Applications Development
 Ozicom Communications LTD.
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Re: OpenOffice: How to set the main language of a document to Hebrew?

2003-08-14 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:

 Shlomi Fish wrote:
  Hi! I created a document in OpenOffice:
 
  http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/homesteading/
 
  The document's main language is Hebrew, but I started writing it with an
  English main language. As a result, the headings, endnotes and in the HTML
  some of the bullets, are displayed left-aligned. How do I change the main
  language of this specific document to Hebrew?
 
  I'm using OpenOffice 1.1 RC.
 
  (someone recommended me to use Tools - Options - Language Settings but
  this will set the application-wide defaults, which I don't want to.
 

 1. Select all the text.
 2. Right click and choose Edit Paragraph Style...
 3. In the Alignment tab, change the Text direction property to
 Right to left.
 4.Click OK.
 5. Rejoice.


Thanks! That worked.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

 Gilad




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CD Burning software

2003-08-14 Thread Erez Boym
Hi,

Can anyone recommend a Nero like CD/DVD creation
software ? One that can create ISOs, bootable cds
automatically convert file types etc.

Thanks

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Re: Lock the computer

2003-08-14 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Yedidyah Bar-David wrote on 2003-08-06:

 About ugliness: I agree, but logging in on another vc just to lock
 the machine is more ugly, IMO, and anyway, does not give you something
 the other way did not give you.

Gives you the ability to switch VCs when you are not locked.  I use
the console from time to time.  I frequently use the cool
xdmflexiserver to open a different X session on the same machine
without killing my brother's one.  DontSwitchVTs would make it
impossible (unless perhaps I chvt as root).

 Maybe some future version of XFree will allow that to be configured at
 runtime, and let the locker do that (instead of the config file).

That would be optimal of course.

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Re: Kernel Patchsets

2003-08-14 Thread Shaul Karl
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 05:34:33PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 09:41:43AM +0200, dittigas wrote:
  Is anyone aware of distributions that have a thorough managment of
  kerenl patches. e.g. Users can easily apply all patches from and with
  the tools available to the distribution rather than externaly.
  


  What do you mean by `externaly'? Surely patch is there, so is diff and
all the other tools. And the distro distributes the patches, doesn't it?


  I've allready seen Debian has a nice way of distributing some patches
  and it is very easy to follow and apply. 
 
 And it is also easy to build a kernel-image package. Installing it is
 quite smooth (I have had some issues with mkinitrd. I wish it was more
 clear in the docs and/or more standartized).
 


  What problems are you having? With recent versions of testing/unstable
I believe it is transparent (smooth). There are man pages.


  Is this the same case with
  Gentoo and Others?
 
 In RedHat and Mandrake you can try to hack the kernel's srpm. Unlike
 deb, rpm has its own patch management.


  Does that mean that you have 2 separate entities, an srpm and a 
patches-rpm? Debian has some difficulties with the current system, in
particular when it comes to security releases. Due to the many
architectures and sub architectures packages, releasing a security fix
for the kernel is not simple. I didn't follow that discussion but from
the little I have read I think that they are aiming at one kernel source
package and as fewer as possible patches debs. I might be wrong.

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Re: HP 694/5C Printer Replacements

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Feiglin


Daniel Feiglin wrote:
Hello folks!

I have an HP 695C connected through the parallel port on my Linux box 
and which also functions as the network printer for 2-3 Win 98 clients, 
and an HP 964C similarly attached on my home Lin/Win system. What they 
(almost) have in common, is that the HP 694C is bar minan and the 695C 
is al eres d'vay. Can any one suggest something roughly functionally 
equivalent, price equivalent, that isn't a Windows printer? Doesn't 
have to be HP, but my experience with HP printers has been quite good.

As usual with queries of this type, I'll post a summary of the results 
later. (Did it with tapes, and some other stuff in the past.)

Regards,

Daniel

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Re: Xvnc server.

2003-08-14 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Grinberg, Hari wrote:
Hi,

 

Is there any possibility to run init level 3 on the server and get X 
on the client ?

Dear Hari,

First, when you post to this list we will very much appreciate it if you 
will leave the  13 lines of signature, especially the huge HTML 
signature that you use which is so big it nearly poked me in th eye...

Now for your qeustion - yes, there is no need for X to be running on the 
 server (which in X terminology is actually called display client). It 
only needs to run on the clients (which in X terminology are called 
display servers).

Simply put - X only needs to be running where the screen is.

Hope this helps,
Gilad
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RE: [OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread Tal Achituv
Hi,

Would Tal clear this up, please? I'm intrigued.

I feel like everyone else understood that you want to know if you changed
the interface of your own class while I read your question that you want to
know if the new version of the class depends on new external code.
Who's right?

Thanks,

--Amos

To Clear things up, the interface definitely changed... there's no question
there...

Is there a utility that can check if the new class fits in place with the
package?

in C I would put the new .obj (compiled code) instead of the old one, and
try to link... 

obviously there is no such a mechanism in java.. this is what I am looking
for...

Tal.

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Re: Linux Lectures at Tel Aviv University

2003-08-14 Thread Herouth Maoz
On Thursday, Aug 7, 2003, at 09:56 Asia/Jerusalem, Muli Ben-Yehuda 
wrote:

We should make it so that
people from Haifa can attend TA lectures, and vice versa, not schedule
both at the exact time - circumstances permitting.
And while we are on the subject of scheduling, can it be arranged to be 
at a somewhat later hour this year? I'm *dying* to go to Linux lectures 
on a regular basis, but being employed (tfu tfu tfu), 18:00 is not an 
option. Even 18:30 is better, I can just about reach TAU in half an 
hour on my scooter. Other people may need it to be even later, though.

Herouth

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[Job offer] Sysadmin required

2003-08-14 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all,

No, my little adventure isn't THAT successful yet, but one of my clients
asked me about recruiting a Sysadmin for unix/linux (mostly linux, but
some unixes as well). A high security awareness is a must.
It's a full time job, and the company is located in Ra'anana (yes, it's
Microsoft) (just kidding).
For the time being, send your CVs to me, and I'll forward them onwards.

Shachar

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[APII] Feedback requested

2003-08-14 Thread Aviram Jenik
Now is the time to do what the community does best: criticize g.

Seriously: we want you all to tell send us comments about August Penguin II. 
This includes what was good, what was bad, things you liked and things you 
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Every comment counts, and I do mean *every*. Flame us if you wish, use 
constructive, destructive or just plain criticism.
If you didn't come to APII, tell us what would have made it possible for you 
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Re: when was the beginning?

2003-08-14 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, Aug 08, 2003:
  Maybe someone knows HARVEY STERN ??

Stein.  He's not in Israel now, as far as I know.

  Because he was the one who lit the fire... 

Yes, if by lit the fire you mean created the list.  However,
this description is quite confusing: for people knowing about
UNIX running a UNIX at home was quite natural, and the *only*
reason my first UNIX at home was Linux and not 386BSD or such was
that I knew one person running 386BSD and two running Linux,
which meant I could get my potential questions about Linux
answered twice easier.  I wasn't even aware of the existance of
the list then, but managed fine reading HOWTOs and installing
Slackware from floppies.  This all was to say that people would
run Linux in Israel even if no social movements existed.

And what a time it was -- my 486DX with 8MB of RAM could run X,
Netscape and Emacs, although the latter would be better off
without X.  Not to mention the fact that Linux shared the 100MB
hard drive with a DOS partition (which had Windows 3.1 on it).
The funny part is that I still have that machine.

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RE: when was the beginning?

2003-08-14 Thread Arik Baratz
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[snip]

 When did the use of Linux in Israel have begun ??

First Linux box in the Technion computer center - August 1995.

My personal 486/DX33/16MB, a borrowed LAN card, slackware 3.0.3, kernel 1.23 from 
floppies

Second box was a DX66, installed by Oved Ben-Aroya, used to back up the main 
nameserver during maintenance

Third was IIRC a sparc - after the good experience with the nameserver Oved installed 
it in a dual-boot with Solaris 2.5 on his pet machine for testing.

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Re: sendsms email notification.

2003-08-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 09:46:38PM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
 well, first i already wrote it so it doesn't matter :). second, why 
 should i d/l the file to my comp when all i need is the header.

How do you get just headers from a pop3 message? parse the message
while you download?

BTW: What about Hebrew (or any other non-ascii) characters in the headers?
Where do you apply decoding (fetchmail seems to have such an option)


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Re: Xvnc server.

2003-08-14 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Tzafrir Cohen wrote on 2003-08-06:

 Runlevel 4 is generally reserved for the sysadmin's whim. Generally
 packages that will be automatically started on runlevels 3 and 5 will
 also be automatically started on runlevel 4 if there won't be any
 intervention.

To make it clearer, on out-of-the-box RH, 4 runs the same things as 3.

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Re: Any special news from Beyond Security?

2003-08-14 Thread Eli Marmor
In a thread about another issue, I wrote in the end:

 P.S. Congrats for your (Beyond Security) business success!

Since then, and although most of the newspapers wrote about it,
everybody swears that he couldn't find it anywhere.

So here comes one source (though other newspapers wrote about it too):

http://www.dailymaily.co.il/6-8-2003/Beyond.html

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Lock the computer

2003-08-14 Thread Kfir Lavi
Hi,
How can i lock the computer and don't get out from programs that are open?
Also when i do apm -suspend?
I want all the ttys and X to be passprotected.
Tnx,
Kfir Lavi
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Re: New Tool Roots Out SCO Code

2003-08-14 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Aduva Inc., Sunnyvale, Calif., has developed a system known as
 OnStage that contains a feature known as SCO Check that will conduct
 a complete inventory of your system and if SCO [The SCO Group]
 identifies some illegal code, we can do a check to find the code,
 identify it and then automate the replacement of that code with Red
 Hat Linux or an appropriate fix, said Chris Van Tuin, director of
 customer service for Aduva.

Will someone from Aduva explain the eWeek language to the denser heads
on this list, please?

If SCO identifies the infringing code then finding it should not be a 
problem. Automating the replacement can only be done when the code is
identified and the fix is developed. 

It does not make much sense to me at the moment. Am I missing some
geek joke here? I am not terribly averse to making a fool of myself,
provided there is a kind soul who explains how exactly that happened.

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Re: CD Burning software

2003-08-14 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Erez Boym wrote:
Hi,

Can anyone recommend a Nero like CD/DVD creation
software ? One that can create ISOs, bootable cds
automatically convert file types etc.
Don't know about automatic file type conversion (in fact I'm not even 
sure what the feature means) but xcdroast is very good and does all the 
rest.

Of course, it's jsut GUI wrapper around utilities such as mkisofs and 
friends. If you want something you can script etc., use the command line 
utils directly. If you want the GUI, xcdroast is a safe bet.

Gilad

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[OT?] New Computer

2003-08-14 Thread phoenix






I apologise if this is off the topic somewhat, but I figured I could get some helpful answers here.

I have purchased a new computer and will be getting it delivered on monday. 

I was told by a friend to run memtest 86 to see if the 1 gig of 400mhz dual channel DDR I purchased is good and up to speed.
I wanted to know two things. First, how do I do this? And second, what other tests should I run on my system in order to verify that it is up to par with what I ordered? I don't want to get conned. What should I check, what should I look at to make sure I got what I paid for?

(I should note I'm not a computer wiz, so I don't know that much. I will be at the linux insta-party getting linux put on this machine but until then I am stuck with windows XP. So any tests that can't be run under windows will have to wait till then. What can / should I do?)

Thanks in advance for helping me!







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[Jobs]: Java Internals Guru

2003-08-14 Thread Eli Marmor
Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies is looking for a brilliant Java/
Apache Guru.

Requirements (must):

1. Intimate familiarity with Java Internals, including at least one of
   the following:
 * Source code of Sun's JVM or a competing JVM
 * Manipulation of ByteCode

2. Experience with Apache 2 internals, including modules and filters
   writing, and related protocols such as HTTP.

Advantages (nice to have):
==
1. A good command of XSLT.
2. Broad experience with UNIX/Linux.
3. Familiarity with Open Source projects.
4. Familiarity with the source code of WINE.
5. OLE2/Automation
6. Linux embedding.
7. Strong math background.

Position is open: immediately.

If you meet most of the demands but not all the must, please
respond too.

You may respond to me.
Please don't change the Subject line (we receive MANY resumes).

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Re: sendsms email notification.

2003-08-14 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about Re: sendsms email notification.:
 It seems to me that without procmail your notifier will be usable only
 if you get no more than a few emails a day. The normal linux-il

Procmail and the program he wrote are not exclusive - he can simply ask
his program to run procmail on the new mail, instead of calling sendsms
directly, and then use procmail to run sendsms only on mails matching
certain criteria.

Or he could write those matches in Perl directly.

In any case, since he only spent a few hours on this script, *and* learned
Perl in the process, I don't see any reason to disparage him for having
reinvented the wheel.

 Not only that, do you *really* need or want your cell phone to beep
 for every odd email, including spam, that arrives in your mailbox?

I get about 200 emails a day, around 50 of which are spam. Only about 5-10
of those 200 emails get declared important enough to be sent to my cellphone.
I'm sure that Tzahi will soon find the need to do the same himself.

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GPL licence issue

2003-08-14 Thread shtirlitz



I have a question regarding GPL licence use.

I have released a library, which was written in one language
uder GPL licence, and added my copyright notice.

Than another guy, took my library, transform it to another
language, released it as GPL also, but deleted my
copyright notice.

It is legal ???

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Re: mutt FD leakge (display_filter?)

2003-08-14 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about mutt FD leakge (display_filter?):
 A number of weeks ago I set display_filter=fribidi (on a UTF-8 terminal, 
 e.g: uxterm) to display Hebrew better. I tend to keep my mutt sessions
 as long as possible. So those leakages sum up.

Here's how you can send them a useful, researched, bug report:
Run mutt. Look in /proc/.../fd to see how many fds are open. Read a few
messages. Look in /proc/../fd to see how many new fds are listed there.
Repeat without the display_filter and see (?) that no new fds are listed.

If all goes according to expectations, send a bug report saying that
display_filter is leaking fds.

If you don't find leaks in this experiment, try edge scenarios which might
be causing leaks - e.g., try opening a large document and returning back
to the index after seeing only the first page. See which of these scenarios
is causing a leak, and send a bug report.

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Re: sendsms email notification.

2003-08-14 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

 I don't think POP3 has a command to get the header only.
 
 TOP mesg 0

Touche. Interesting: this command, as well as UIDL, is optional,
though strongly encouraged [1] - Tsahi, beware: I bet there is a POP3
server in the wild that does not implement either ;-)

 
 Maybe I am wrong here and deserve a public flame for it.
 
 
 I don't know about fire, but I have a non-differential SCSI cable
 (contact Mark regarding a differential one).

Until we meet in real life again, you'll have to use an iSCSI one [2].

;-)

[1] RFC1939
[2] RFC3347

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[OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread Tal Achituv
Hi all

Is there a tool / method to check if a compiles java object (class) links
correctly?

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Tal Achituv.

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RE: [OT] Java linkage

2003-08-14 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Uzi Refaeli wrote on 2003-08-13:

 Donot know about such a tool but you can check that:
 * The new class dose not import classes that are not in the application cp.
 * The class signature is the same.

`javap` is useful to recover class signatures from compiled .class
files (in case that's your situation).

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Re: CD Burning software

2003-08-14 Thread John Rabkin
Thanks for everyone who posted k3b. I was previously unaware of it and it's exactly 
what my dad needed. He is OK with the philosophy of Linux but stops short of using the 
command line (mostly because of bad eyesight). Friendly software like k3b keeps him on 
Linux and away from the temptations of the dark side.
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Regards, Yoni Rabkin


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Re: Where did KPackage go in RH9 ?

2003-08-14 Thread Erez Boym
Hi,

 Grab kdeadmin SRPM, then extract .spec, and enable
 kpackage compilation in it. 
 Then you may use rpm -bs and produce a new SRPM.

Can u please elaborate on that, I understand that it's
a way of extracting KPakage from the kdeadmin SRPM,
but what exactly is the process of doing that ?

thanks

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Re: Where did KPackage go in RH9 ?

2003-08-14 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Tim Tsahayev wrote:

 On Thursday 14 August 2003 09:40, Erez Boym wrote:
 
  I'v upgraded to RH9 and found out that KPackage is not
  in there. Found myself going back to rpm -i 
 
  Where did KPackage go ?
 
 Grab kdeadmin SRPM, then extract .spec, and enable kpackage compilation in it. 
 Then you may use rpm -bs and produce a new SRPM.

On redhat 9 (and 8), you should use rpmbuild to build rpms (same 
arguments).

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Re: currency in the hebrew locale

2003-08-14 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Sunday 10 August 2003 12:35, Sagi Bashari wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm trying to use the money_format() function in PHP (same as strfmon()
 in C) to format a currency string.

 However it looks like it uses the ?? (shin chet) as the nis symbol
 (without gershayim) and not the real symbol (maybe because not all the
 fonts support it).

Probably because whoever composed the Israeli locale wasn't familiar with it.

Edit /usr/share/i18n/locales/he_IL and change:

1. currency_symbol from U05E9U05D7 to 20AA.
2. p_cs_precedes from 1 to 0
2. n_cs_precedes from 1 to 0

Then, recompile your he_IL locale:

$ localedef -f CP1255 -i he_IL he_IL
(note I use CP1255 instead of ISO-8859-8 on purpose, since the ISO-8859-8 
doesn't contain the New Sheqel sign)

$ localedef -f UTF-8 -i he_IL UTF-8

 2. What other applications like KDE do?

I think KDE has its own locale database, separate from libc's one.

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Announce: Hspell 0.6

2003-08-14 Thread Nadav Har'El

You say you want a revolution,
   We all want to change the world.
You tell me that it's evolution,
   We all want to change the world!

You say you've got a real solution,
   We'd all love to see the plan.
You ask me for a contribution,
   We are doing what we can.

Don't you know it's gonna be Alright?


After a three months of unrest, the Hspell 0.6 revolution has begun!

The two revolutionaries Nadav Har'El and Dan Kenigsberg created a website
describing the New Word Order:
http://www.ivrix.org.il/projects/spell-checker/

Vive la revolution!


Still wondering what Hspell 0.6 is all about?

 In this release, the Hspell front-end (the hspell program) was rewritten.
 The new front-end has many improvements over the old one, but also a few
 setbacks - features that are (temporarily) unavailable because they weren't
 yet ported to the new version.

 The improvements:

 * A huge performance improvement - hspell now starts up, and runs, at least
   20 times faster than it used to and takes less than one fifth the memory.

 * The new front-end is written in C, so Hspell can now run on systems which
   do not have Perl. Perl is still needed for building Hspell from source.

 * The list of allowed prefixes was improved (joined work with Shlomo Yona)
   and hspell now finally knows which prefixes are valid for most words,
   reducing the risk of accepting misspellings as correct and reducing the
   number of silly (and wrong) correction suggestions.

   Note that unlike earlier versions, words listed in the user's personal
   dictionary (~/.hspell_words or ./hspell_words) are no longer automatically
   accepted with prefixes. Also, these words are never used as suggested
   corrections.

 * hspell -a was made more compatible with the standard ispell -a (thanks
   to Mooffie). Hspell is now known to be used with LyX, KDE, Geresh and Emacs.
   
 The setbacks:

 * The -v option, that used to explain how valid words were derived, is
   no longer available in this version. It is replaced by a -l option,
   which in this release is weaker (it can only show a division of valid
   words into prefix particle + word).

 * The -n option, that used to give hints on how to spell correctly, is
   not available.

 * The likelyerrors feature (or recognizing certain words as theoretically
   correct but still very likely to be mistakes) is not available.

 * TeX-like repeated single quote ('') is not treated as double quotes ().

 * Long options (GNU's minus-minus options) are not supported in this
   version.

 Some other changes:

 * Included in the distribution is a new utility multispell by Mooffie,
   which can spell-check mixed Hebrew-English text by interfacing with two
   spell-checkers (hspell and ispell) simultaneously. Multispell is better
   than hspell's built-in slave mode (hspell -a -i) when the calling program
   can't deal with wrong word order in the results (e.g., Emacs has this
   issue.)

 * Some incorrect words purged or fixed, and more words added: over 600
   base words added.

 * Vocabulary: 394,833 words (when including kinuyim on verbs)
   based on 7462 nouns, 1533 adjectives, 5060 verb stems, and
   1819 other words


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Re: sendsms email notification.

2003-08-14 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

I admit I didn't read your code thoroughly, but I thought I noticed
RETR there, and IIRC it does d/l the whole message, anyway. Actually,
I don't think POP3 has a command to get the header only.
 

TOP mesg 0

Maybe I am wrong here and deserve a public flame for it.
 

I don't know about fire, but I have a non-differential SCSI cable 
(contact Mark regarding a differential one).

 Shachar

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glibc locales

2003-08-14 Thread Amir Hardon
I'm breaking my head trying to understand what exacty the glibc locale does?
It seems like it sets some global encoding flag.
Doing ls in a directory with Hebrew filenames gives me gibrish(yes the console 
font and encoding is set correctly), but after setting LC_ALL=he_IL ls will 
show me the filenames correctly.

My problem is that when LC_ALL is set to he_IL many programs will output 
Hebrew text (for example date). I want to be able to view and write hebrew, 
while the default language is English.

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Re: frame grabbers supported by Linux

2003-08-14 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Try Philips chips (71xx)..

Hetz

On Thursday 07 August 2003 12:51, Boris Zingerman wrote:
 Hi

 I'm looking for medium/high quality frame grabber
 wich has stable Linux driver. Basically I need to
 grab images produced by CCD Video camera via
 S-Video interface. I use now some Bt878 based TV
 card. It works fine but the quality of images is
 rather poor. Does someone have good experience
 with some other grabbers ?

 Boris.

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Re: sendsms email notification.

2003-08-14 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003, foofoo wrote about Re: sendsms email notification.:
 Speaking of sendsms, it seems to be broken for orange, anybody knows why or
 of a fix?

When did this breakage occur?

I released a new version fixing a spourious error message (though everything
was working correctly) a couple of weeks ago. See if that helps and tell
me if not.
http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms

Please keep me informed of whether sendsms is working/not-working on various
providers, because I only have a Cellcom phone myself.

P.S. Thanks to Tzahi for pointing out that Pelephone support no longer works
in sendsms. Interesting that nobody noticed this except him... Anyway, I
already sent him a simple patch to make it work (using ICQ's site), and I'll
release a fixed version shortly.

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[Job offer] Sysadmin required

2003-08-14 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all,

No, my little adventure isn't THAT successful yet, but one of my clients 
asked me about recruiting a Sysadmin for unix/linux (mostly linux, but 
some unixes as well). A high security awareness is a must.

It's a full time job, and the company is located in Ra'anana (yes, it's 
Microsoft) (just kidding).

For the time being, send your CVs to me, and I'll forward them onwards.

Shachar

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Re: when was the beginning?

2003-08-14 Thread yasha harari
linux (all command-line, no X windows) was running on some boxes at Ben Gurion 
University the year i was there on the Overseas Student Program in 1992-93.

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 Hmmm. I'll have to cross-check with the people who did this
 with me (e.g. Izar, formerly from Aduva, and maybe Marc was
 involved too), but as far as I can tell I already installed Linux on
 a 386 Olivetti as early as mid-1992 at HUJI CS. We had NFS and
 YP (NIS) and AMD (automounter). No X11 at the beginning.
 It was one of the 0.99 kernels.
 
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  Maybe someone knows HARVEY STERN ??
  Because he was the one who lit the fire... 
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[Job offers] QA

2003-08-14 Thread Shany Pozin

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Re: GPL licence issue

2003-08-14 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
Omer Zak wrote on 2003-08-13:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Than another guy, took my library, transform it to another
language, released it as GPL also, but deleted my
copyright notice.

 In my opinion, if the other guy released his expression under GPL,
 then the argument is moot.  shtirlitz could take the other guy's
 stuff, reinstate his (shtirlitz's) credit and release a X.(Y+1)
 version with all credits.

IANAL but I believe it's impossible to say whether shtirlitz shares
copyright for the translated library without examining the sources.
Since both libraries are GPL, there is nothing to gain by avoiding the
derived work status, so I'd guess he helped himself to anough parts of
the original ;-).

However, the important question is not whether he deleted stirlitz's
copyright notice but whether he omitted him from the credits.
Technically, all non-trivial contributors share the copyright, so FOSS
projects normally have constantly growing copyright lists [2]_.  I've
never seen projects who actually write out the list in the copyright
header - normally it's constrained to a couple of names and the
credits list somewhere in the documentain is the real record.
Informally it's understood that all people in the credits list share
the copyright [2]_.  Now, denying people their part in the credit
list, that would be a really ugly deed.  Is that the case here?

. [1] There are some projects who don't have growing copyright lists,
   because all contributors explicitly assign the copyright to some
   central authority, like the FSF.  The benefits of this model are
   mainly theoretical, IMHO.

. [2] This fact is widely acknowledged, mainly in its consequence
   that you practically can't change a project's license once you get
   many conributions, because you need to get permission from all of
   them.

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Re: /Linux/maillists/03/08/threads.html was not found at plasma-gate.

2003-08-14 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Shaul Karl wrote:

 Am I the only one who is having problems with the list archive at
plasma-gate?
  Not Found

  The requested URL /Linux/maillists/03/08/threads.html was not found on
  this server.
'ts ok now. Plasma-gate experienced a major upgrade recently, so a few 
glitches shouldn't be a surprise ;-)

Regards,

Evgeny

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Re: Hebrew PDF generation

2003-08-14 Thread Orna Agmon
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Oron Peled wrote:

 Hmmm... I don't have problems with hebrew PDF, but my route is:
   LyX - LaTeX - PDF
 or
   LyX - LaTeX - PS - PDF

 Both are printable and displayable from Windows via Acrobat Reader.
 (attached a small PDF (4.7Kb))

 On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:18:41 +0300 (IDT)
 Orna Agmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ps2pdf works partly OK with Hebrew (xpdf displays it properly, but not
  acrobat reader on Windows, which is why I ported it to begin with). So
  maybe you can use this as a link in the chain.

 Looks to me that the fault is the software the generates the Postscript
 that is input to ps2pdf (what is it, BTW).

I use elatex - dvips -GO -Ppdf -ps2pdf

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Re: Where did KPackage go in RH9 ?

2003-08-14 Thread Erez Boym
HI,

I tried Synaptic, while it was ok for packages
downloaded from RH I can't just do
File-Open-SomeFile.rpm-Test Install-install

I want to be able to downloaded an rpm then just
install it without these long text commands.

with Synaptic I can't even see packages that where not
installed by Synaptic. I have installed some software
using a rpm file but I cant even see them in Synaptic.

 kpackage makes low-level rpm operations too easy

Y is that a problem ?

Thnaks 

Erez


--- Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 11:40:53PM -0700, Erez Boym
 wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I'v upgraded to RH9 and found out that KPackage is
 not
  in there. Found myself going back to rpm -i 
 
 bad habit...
 
   rpm -Uvh
 
  
  Where did KPackage go ?
 
 It is indeed a GUI for the wrong thing. Redhat
 provides you up2date for
 your package management. it comes with its own GUI. 
 
 If you're not happy with that, you can use apt.
 Synaptic is said to be a
 nice GUI for that.
 
 kpackage makes low-level rpm operations too easy,
 instead of just
 possible :-)
 
 [ Missing piece: how to set-up a local apt
 repository ] 
 
 One problem with such GUIs is that they lock the rpm
 database while
 they're running (not just while installing
 packages).
 
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Re: currency in the hebrew locale

2003-08-14 Thread Sagi Bashari
On 11/08/2003 23:02, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:

On Sunday 10 August 2003 12:35, Sagi Bashari wrote:
 

Hello,

I'm trying to use the money_format() function in PHP (same as strfmon()
in C) to format a currency string.
However it looks like it uses the ?? (shin chet) as the nis symbol
(without gershayim) and not the real symbol (maybe because not all the
fonts support it).
   

Probably because whoever composed the Israeli locale wasn't familiar with it.

Maybe we should send them a patch then?

Edit /usr/share/i18n/locales/he_IL and change:

1. currency_symbol from U05E9U05D7 to 20AA.
2. p_cs_precedes from 1 to 0
2. n_cs_precedes from 1 to 0
Then, recompile your he_IL locale:

$ localedef -f CP1255 -i he_IL he_IL
(note I use CP1255 instead of ISO-8859-8 on purpose, since the ISO-8859-8 
doesn't contain the New Sheqel sign)

$ localedef -f UTF-8 -i he_IL UTF-8

Thanks, that did the trick! the currency_symbol is U20AA and not 
20AA though.

If anyone else is trying this - you must restart apache to make it work 
inside your PHP code.

Sagi



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RE: sendsms email notification.

2003-08-14 Thread Tzahi Fadida
I can't use procmail since i am not in possesion of the computer that runs the pop3 
service.
I solved it by writing an email notifier using perl that sends sms when new mail 
arrives.
(running it periodically, and the script connect to the pop3 and compares its 
messagebase to the
pop3 server messages and sends sms messages of the difference mails. in short - an 
email notifier.)
here it is if someone is interested:
http://tx.technion.ac.il/~tzahi/pop2sms
it uses sendsms so you need it if you want to use it.

this version(updated since yesterday :) includes the format -  subject:body(from).
anyway, perl is not bad. i managed to write this script while not having previous 
knowledge in perl
in one day.

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Information System Engineering Area
Faculty of Industrial Engineering  Management
Technion - Israel Institute of Technology
Technion City, Haifa, Israel 32000
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Tzafrir Cohen
 Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:28 PM
 To: Tzahi Fadida
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: sendsms email notification.


 On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 06:06:41PM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
  Hi all,
  does anyone know where can i get a script that checks my mail for new
  messages and send me an sms notification when a new one arrives?
  (with sendsms)

 Maybe I'm missing something here, but what's wrong with procmail?

 Do you want to be notified about every new message?

 It should probably be something like (untested):

 :0c
 |run_sendsms

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Fwd: GPL licence issue

2003-08-14 Thread shtirlitz


I have a question regarding GPL licence use.

I have released a library, which was written in one language
uder GPL licence, and added my copyright notice.

Than another guy, took my library, transform it to another
language, released it as GPL also, but deleted my
copyright notice.

It is legal ???

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Re: Linux Lectures at Tel Aviv University

2003-08-14 Thread Lior Kaplan
Hi Shlomi,

Someone ask Eddie that question at August Penguin II, and he said he will
check it. He also said that he is starting to build a lecture plan for the
whole semester. Until now, only at each meeting he announce the next lecture
(bi-weekly usually).

As far as I know we (TAU Linux club) have a room at TAU on a bi-weekly
bases.

I'm sure Eddie will respond as soon as he can.

Looking forward for your lectures,

Lior Kaplan
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Come to write at the forums: http://www.guides.co.il/forums

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Subject: Linux Lectures at Tel Aviv University



 Hi all.

 I would very much like to attend and give the Linux lectures at Tel Aviv
 University. (I have several lectures that I have prepared and can give at
 this forum).

 The question is: how exactly is this thing going to be organized? I tried
 to contact Edward Ahronovich, but he did not respond.

 Is anybody here qualified to organize this?

 Regards,

 Shlomi Fish



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