Re: Convince me to switch to Digikam (Was: Exaile - a Gtk+-based Amarok Clone)

2007-01-16 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 16/01/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/01/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. Why doesn't Google know about that page? The latest they seem robots.txt, or that google-invented web site map? Apparently they're using the former and not the later! to have

Re: Linux on Windows

2007-01-16 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 16/01/07, Amit Aronovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, seems that there's an alpha version of QEMU for windows (don't know about it's usability status). Works great. I've got it running DSL in a windows on any winbox I sit down to. It's not too slow, and network connections, printers,

Re: Linux on Windows

2007-01-16 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 10:50:10AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 16/01/07, Amit Aronovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, seems that there's an alpha version of QEMU for windows (don't know about it's usability status). Works great. I've got it running DSL in a windows on any winbox I sit

Re: Linux on Windows

2007-01-16 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 16/01/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 10:50:10AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 16/01/07, Amit Aronovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, seems that there's an alpha version of QEMU for windows (don't know about it's usability status). Works

Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Oded Arbel
And can something be done about it ?? Just as an example at how ludicrous the situation is (and the reason that my relatively powerful laptop is grinding to a halt at the most opportune times of the day), disregarding the things that need to be big, such as Evolution which I'm willing to let go

Re: kiba-dock howto for FC6 (an Eye Candy from the Beryl family)

2007-01-16 Thread Amos Shapira
On 16/01/07, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Amos Shapira, from the post of Sun, 14 Jan: On 14/01/07, Beni Cherniavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doing cvs update in the middle of somebody's big commit, you risk getting an inconsistent state. With a project having such frequent

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
VIRT stands for the virtual size of a process, which is the sum of memory it is actually using, memory it has mapped into itself (for instance the video card's RAM for the X server), files on disk that have been mapped into it (most notably shared libraries), and memory shared with other

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Oded Arbel
--=-Yb50PNKHYNSNAArM+xQe Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 12:09 +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: VIRT stands for the virtual size of a process, which is the sum of memory it is actually using, memory it has mapped into itself (for instance the

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007, Oded Arbel wrote about Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?: And can something be done about it ?? I'll offer only partial explanations; I hope that someone else can offer better exlanations, and/or a solution. Of course, my own

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
SWAP (key 'p') The size of swapped out portion of a task's virtual memory image. This field is sometimes confusing, here is why: Logically, you would expect this field really shows whether your program is partially swapped out and how much. But the reality shows otherwise. Even the Swap used

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hello Oded, people... Few weeks ago, I worked temporarily at a small company, and they gave me a PC which was with Athlon XP (if I recall it was 1.6 Ghz or something) with 756MB RAM to work with. So, I installed CentOS 4.4, upgraded my KDE 3.5.5, and upgraded OpenOffice to the latest one, and

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Oded Arbel
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 12:27 +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: Of course, my own solution is simple: I don't use neither Gnome, nor KDE. I hand-pick individual applications which I like. Not an option for me, but thanks for the offer :). I like to have my apps tightly integrated. X is here for

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Oded Arbel
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 12:40 +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: SWAP (key 'p') The size of swapped out portion of a task's virtual memory image. Are you talking about a field that shows how much memory a task has swapped out ? I don't see where you can get that info - I only see VIRT, RES

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Amos Shapira
On 16/01/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And can something be done about it ?? In parallel to the other comments - I use GNOME 2.14.3 on Debian Etch on an Athlon XP 2500+ (a 1.1GHz processor) with 1.25Gb ram and can't remember when I last saw this system use its swap since I upgraded

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
run top then press f and p On 1/16/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 12:40 +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: SWAP (key 'p') The size of swapped out portion of a task's virtual memory image. Are you talking about a field that shows how much memory a task has

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Peter
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Oded Arbel wrote: And can something be done about it ?? Don't run Gnome, run fvwm like me ;-) You want eye candy, you got eye candy. Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Oded Arbel
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 22:35 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: On 16/01/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And can something be done about it ?? In parallel to the other comments - I use GNOME 2.14.3 on Debian Etch on an Athlon XP 2500+ (a 1.1GHz processor) with 1.25Gb ram and can't

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Oded Arbel
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 12:40 +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: SWAP (key 'p') The size of swapped out portion of a task's virtual memory image. This field is sometimes confusing, here is why: Logically, you would expect this field really shows whether your program is partially swapped

Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?

2007-01-16 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Amichai, IMHO what we have to offer to make this happen is to pool our collective intelligence (or lack thereof) to start writing public policy. The market will not correct itself in the short run because of the cost benefit factors that the spokesperson from the TA municipality so

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007, Oded Arbel wrote about Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?: I usually see a problem after about a week of usage - after a reboot it behaves itself for a few days. I rebooted this morning, and now Evo is down to 400MB. With

Moodle in hebrew

2007-01-16 Thread Micha Silver
Just installed moodle with the hebrew language pack (from the moodle site). I see that the RTL is not perfect and some strings are not translated yet. Is anyone still working on this? (I seem to remember improving the translation was a candidate for the Hamakor prize some years ago).

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Gnome has *footprint* for a logo - since forever, and for a very good reason. Somehow people don't get the hint until it is too late... -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.goldshmidt.org = To unsubscribe, send mail

Re: Convince me to switch to Digikam (Was: Exaile - a Gtk+-based Amarok Clone)

2007-01-16 Thread Dotan Cohen
Allright, I've got 0.9.0 installed! Needed to lay down some tarballs, but that's fine. Here are my comments, to those who are interested in them. Some of them will turn into threads on the digikam list, I'm sure :) Hebrew interface! Yay! Digikam doesn't seem to be much faster than F-Spot in

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Peter
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Gnome has *footprint* for a logo - since forever, and for a very good reason. Somehow people don't get the hint until it is too late... Yes ... the image is incomplete, it lacks an ideogram of the mouth in which the foot is placed. Peter

Re: Moodle in hebrew

2007-01-16 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Micha Silver wrote: Just installed moodle with the hebrew language pack (from the moodle site). I see that the RTL is not perfect and some strings are not translated yet. Is anyone still working on this? (I seem to remember improving the translation was a candidate for the Hamakor prize some

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 12:47:03PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: My opinion: Some serious debate needs to be occured, whether in slashdor or the mailing lists, some sort of shake up in the GNOME/KDE development community, to remind them that this situation cannot be continue, and some diet is

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Oron Peled
On Tuesday, 16 בJanuary 2007 12:47, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: My opinion: Some serious debate needs to be occured, whether in slashdor or the mailing lists, some sort of shake up in the GNOME/KDE development community, to remind them that this situation cannot be continue, and some diet is

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On the contrary to all said on this thread, I must admit that using KDE with 512 MB is quite sane. I am using this setup on a machine running Etch. kmail running for several weeks, same as akregator, Firefox 2 running on and off, konsole is usually open. The machine is very responsive a hour

Reminder: Telux: Ori Idan on Running Linux on an ARM 7 Board on 21-January-2007

2007-01-16 Thread Shlomi Fish
This is a reminder that the Tel Aviv Linux Club ( http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/ ) will hear Ori Idan talk about Running Linux on an ARM 7 board on Sunday, 21-January-2007. The presentation will take place at 18:30, in Shenkar 222 (Physics and Astronomy building) in Tel Aviv University. More

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?: My opinion: Some serious debate needs to be occured, whether in slashdor or the mailing lists, some sort of shake up in the GNOME/KDE development community,

Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?

2007-01-16 Thread Moshe Gorohovsky
Hi, I am using GNOME-2.14.3+ desktop, all compiled from sources on a linux system, all compiled from sources with gcc-CVS-200608XX, using -march=athlon-xp on Athlon 2600+ (1917 MHz) with 256 MB RAM. I have experienced the GNOME memory usage problem before glibc-CVS-20060813. After upgrading