Re: Kudos to Osem
On Monday, 28 בDecember 2009 09:45:10 Shachar Shemesh wrote: Amichai Rotman wrote: (an executable file on the root directory of the CD) using WINE without any special settings. ... I wanted to share with fellow Linuxers, and give kudos when kudos are due. Just a clarification - shouldn't kudos where due go to Wine and Ubuntu? You are obviously correct. However... The special thanks for Osem should be for not being clueless -- E.g: let's use ActiveX, or even better, SilverPlight ;-) IMO, praising those who take the right path (from our point of view) is just as important as exposing the others on the wall of shame. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron You know, someone once told me that New York has more lawyers than people. -- Warren Buffett, Fortune, 1999 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Kudos to Osem
Oron Peled wrote: The special thanks for Osem should be for not being clueless -- E.g: let's use ActiveX, or even better, SilverPlight ;-) I'll gladly thank them IF I find out it was a conscious decision - i.e. - that it was not the random choice of contractor that made them choose those particular technologies. On second thought, maybe praising them even if the choice was random is still a good idea. Not sure. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Kudos to Osem
Just a small remark. Using Silver(p?)light would be IMHO a much better choice for cross platform support. Currently Mono supports Silverlight 2.0, and its upcoming releases would support much more. Actually, a major benefit of the CLR environment is its cross platform support due to Mono. In practice many application written in C# aren't portable, but I don't see how Silverlight being less cross-platform than flash (a reminder, flash for linux can also be a version behind its windows release) On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote: On Monday, 28 בDecember 2009 09:45:10 Shachar Shemesh wrote: Amichai Rotman wrote: (an executable file on the root directory of the CD) using WINE without any special settings. ... I wanted to share with fellow Linuxers, and give kudos when kudos are due. Just a clarification - shouldn't kudos where due go to Wine and Ubuntu? You are obviously correct. However... The special thanks for Osem should be for not being clueless -- E.g: let's use ActiveX, or even better, SilverPlight ;-) IMO, praising those who take the right path (from our point of view) is just as important as exposing the others on the wall of shame. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oronhttp://users.actcom.co.il/%7Eoron You know, someone once told me that New York has more lawyers than people. -- Warren Buffett, Fortune, 1999 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
RE: Kudos to Osem
Of course it's a good idea to praise them, *especially* if the choice was random. This increases the chances of the choice being non-random next time... Rony _ From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] On Behalf Of Shachar Shemesh Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:17 AM To: Oron Peled Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: Kudos to Osem Oron Peled wrote: The special thanks for Osem should be for not being clueless -- E.g: let's use ActiveX, or even better, SilverPlight ;-) I'll gladly thank them IF I find out it was a conscious decision - i.e. - that it was not the random choice of contractor that made them choose those particular technologies. On second thought, maybe praising them even if the choice was random is still a good idea. Not sure. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Kudos to Osem
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:12:20PM +0200, Elazar Leibovich wrote: Just a small remark. Using Silver(p?)light would be IMHO a much better choice for cross platform support. Sure. Microsoft was even kind enough to promise it won't assert any of its patent rights with this technology till further notice: http://lwn.net/Articles/367878/ -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Kudos to Osem
Hi Tzafrir,
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:55:17AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:12:20PM +0200, Elazar Leibovich wrote:
Just a small remark. Using Silver(p?)light would be IMHO a much better
choice for cross platform support.
Sure. Microsoft was even kind enough to promise it won't assert any of
its patent rights with this technology till further notice:
http://lwn.net/Articles/367878/
Only if you are a Novell customer, that is.
IANAL.
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Re: Kudos to Osem
2009/12/28 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il: Hi all, I am a father to two small children (3 and 4.5). I recently bought an Osem Dubonim value pack that included a Game CD staring the Hop Channel characters in the bag. I admit I was skeptic as for the usability of this CD under Linux. I was surprised - it works just fine! I am running Kubuntu 8.0.4 LTS and started the Launcher (an executable file on the root directory of the CD) using WINE without any special settings. All content seems to be based on flash and Java, so all worked out of the box. I wanted to share with fellow Linuxers, and give kudos when kudos are due. Now go write to Osem and let them know that you are glad that their Windows disc runs under Linux. This will help promote Linux awareness and ensure that they use the same technology next time. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Voip (SIP) switch
I am looking for advice or pointers to web sites with advice (in English) about setting up a SIP switch and would appreciate any help. What I have is several SIP accounts which I want to integrate into one soft phone. The soft phone will run on MacOS ( I already have it) and the switch will run on UBUNTU, I have a choice of a system running 9.04 and another running 9.10. It's very simple. My computer will make outgoing connections to the various SIP servers, none will attempt to connect to mine. Once registered, calls, probably one a day between all of them, will be all routed to the soft phone. Dialing out will be more complicated. calls begining with 1 or 0 will go out on one connection, I can use prefixes such as 9 or 8, etc to call on the other connections. While I assume that Asterisk is the software of choice, it does not matter. In fact, something simple would be prefered over something complicated with more features I won't use. Thanks in advance, Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com New word I coined 12/13/09, Sub-Wikipedia adj, describing knowledge or understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation. i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the Wikipedia. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Voip (SIP) switch
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:16 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for advice or pointers to web sites with advice (in English) about setting up a SIP switch and would appreciate any help. What I have is several SIP accounts which I want to integrate into one soft phone. The soft phone will run on MacOS ( I already have it) and the switch will run on UBUNTU, I have a choice of a system running 9.04 and another running 9.10. It's very simple. My computer will make outgoing connections to the various SIP servers, none will attempt to connect to mine. Once registered, calls, probably one a day between all of them, will be all routed to the soft phone. Dialing out will be more complicated. calls begining with 1 or 0 will go out on one connection, I can use prefixes such as 9 or 8, etc to call on the other connections. While I assume that Asterisk is the software of choice, it does not matter. In fact, something simple would be prefered over something complicated with more features I won't use. If it's possible to remove the UBUNTU requirement, you can simply throw a Trixbox installation CD to your CDROM, hit an enter key, wait, and then have a fully installed Asterisk (on centos), with a Web UI that can easily configure anything you wish. HTH, -- Shimi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
RE: Recall: Voip (SIP) switch
Actually I use both. Connecting an Asterisk 1.6 box to an Exchange 2010 (beta) server unified communications server was a project I got involved in once. See http://blog.itcons.net/2008/09/create-truly-unified-messaging-system.html I'm not a fanboy :-D -Original Message- From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] On Behalf Of sammy ominsky Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 8:54 PM To: linux-il list Subject: Re: Recall: Voip (SIP) switch On 28/12/2009, at 20:25, Andrew Kaplan wrote: Andrew Kaplan would like to recall the message, Voip (SIP) switch. Andrew Kaplan uses Windows :) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Kudos to Osem
On Monday, 28 בDecember 2009 12:12:20 Elazar Leibovich wrote: Just a small remark. Using Silver(p?)light would be IMHO a much better choice for cross platform support. Currently Mono supports Silverlight 2.0, and its upcoming releases would support much more. Actually, a major benefit of the CLR environment is its cross platform support due to Mono. Believing and quoting Microsoft propaganda, is naive at best. Some testing and reading would show you the bitter truth. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning. -- Rick Cook, Mission Manager, NASA Mars Pathfinder Project ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Recall: Voip (SIP) switch
On 28/12/2009, at 20:25, Andrew Kaplan wrote: Andrew Kaplan would like to recall the message, Voip (SIP) switch. Andrew Kaplan uses Windows :) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
RE: Voip (SIP) switch
PBX in a flash is another turnkey asterisk distribution with less bloat than Trixbox. The main Asterisk turnkey versions are compiled and autoinstall on CentOS. URLs: http://pbxinaflash.net/ PIAF http://dumbme.mbit.com.au/piaf/piaf_without_tears.pdf http://trixbox.org/ Trixbox guide: http://dumbme.mbit.com.au/trixbox/trixbox_without_tears.pdf From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] On Behalf Of shimi Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 5:38 PM To: geoffrey mendelson Cc: linux-il list Subject: Re: Voip (SIP) switch On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:16 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.commailto:geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for advice or pointers to web sites with advice (in English) about setting up a SIP switch and would appreciate any help. What I have is several SIP accounts which I want to integrate into one soft phone. The soft phone will run on MacOS ( I already have it) and the switch will run on UBUNTU, I have a choice of a system running 9.04 and another running 9.10. It's very simple. My computer will make outgoing connections to the various SIP servers, none will attempt to connect to mine. Once registered, calls, probably one a day between all of them, will be all routed to the soft phone. Dialing out will be more complicated. calls begining with 1 or 0 will go out on one connection, I can use prefixes such as 9 or 8, etc to call on the other connections. While I assume that Asterisk is the software of choice, it does not matter. In fact, something simple would be prefered over something complicated with more features I won't use. If it's possible to remove the UBUNTU requirement, you can simply throw a Trixbox installation CD to your CDROM, hit an enter key, wait, and then have a fully installed Asterisk (on centos), with a Web UI that can easily configure anything you wish. HTH, -- Shimi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Recall: Voip (SIP) switch
Andrew Kaplan would like to recall the message, Voip (SIP) switch. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
RE: Voip (SIP) switch
P From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] On Behalf Of shimi Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 5:38 PM To: geoffrey mendelson Cc: linux-il list Subject: Re: Voip (SIP) switch On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:16 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.commailto:geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for advice or pointers to web sites with advice (in English) about setting up a SIP switch and would appreciate any help. What I have is several SIP accounts which I want to integrate into one soft phone. The soft phone will run on MacOS ( I already have it) and the switch will run on UBUNTU, I have a choice of a system running 9.04 and another running 9.10. It's very simple. My computer will make outgoing connections to the various SIP servers, none will attempt to connect to mine. Once registered, calls, probably one a day between all of them, will be all routed to the soft phone. Dialing out will be more complicated. calls begining with 1 or 0 will go out on one connection, I can use prefixes such as 9 or 8, etc to call on the other connections. While I assume that Asterisk is the software of choice, it does not matter. In fact, something simple would be prefered over something complicated with more features I won't use. If it's possible to remove the UBUNTU requirement, you can simply throw a Trixbox installation CD to your CDROM, hit an enter key, wait, and then have a fully installed Asterisk (on centos), with a Web UI that can easily configure anything you wish. HTH, -- Shimi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Recall: Voip (SIP) switch
Andrew Kaplan wrote: Actually I use both. Connecting an Asterisk 1.6 box to an Exchange 2010 (beta) server unified communications server was a project I got involved in once. See http://blog.itcons.net/2008/09/create-truly-unified-messaging-system.html I'm not a fanboy :-D You are using Windows enough to be naive enough to think you can ask our mail clients to forget they received an email from you. Recalling an email to this list is, at best, futile. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Potabilty of dotNet in Linux
I didn't see MS propaganda about CLR being compatible with linux. Maybe because linux users are not their primary audience. Care to give a reference (I'm not teasing, I'm really curious to see where they brag about it). I'm not saying that the CLR is a panacea for cross-platform development, but I'm saying it is a viable option. Is C/C++ easy to get cross-platform (hint: dir.h, hint2: take a look at some boost source)? Among the current solutions, it doesn't seems to me like a bad choice. And indeed it does seems better to me than relying on WINE. I used Java a bit for linux+windows projects. I see no reason to believe dotNet would be significantly worse than Java for cross platform development. But I'm writing that out of ignorance I didn't actually develop cross platform apps with dotNet. Anyone care to enlight me? Which difficulties did you run into when writing cross platform applications in dotNet? Please note, difficulties arose when porting badly written C# code so that it'd work with linux as well is not relevant. What I'm seeking is problems arising when written a dotNet program with linux in mind in the first place (so, no, I won't be using pinvoke, thanks for letting me know). On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote: On Monday, 28 בDecember 2009 12:12:20 Elazar Leibovich wrote: Just a small remark. Using Silver(p?)light would be IMHO a much better choice for cross platform support. Currently Mono supports Silverlight 2.0, and its upcoming releases would support much more. Actually, a major benefit of the CLR environment is its cross platform support due to Mono. Believing and quoting Microsoft propaganda, is naive at best. Some testing and reading would show you the bitter truth. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning. -- Rick Cook, Mission Manager, NASA Mars Pathfinder Project ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Potabilty of dotNet in Linux
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:07:45PM +0200, Elazar Leibovich wrote: I didn't see MS propaganda about CLR being compatible with linux. Maybe because linux users are not their primary audience. Care to give a reference (I'm not teasing, I'm really curious to see where they brag about it). I'm not saying that the CLR is a panacea for cross-platform development, but I'm saying it is a viable option. One issue is specific to SilverLight and is not exactly about portability. Microsoft has avoided promising not to sue other developers over patent rights for that technology. Or rather, it has promised several times, but none of those is solid enough. Given the past record of MS in this field and its current interests, I just avoid touching it. Furthermore, I prefer to avoid the whole mono stack, where possible, to avoid relying on parts in it that are not covered by solid guarantees of Microsoft. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Kudos to Osem
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Oron Peled wrote: The special thanks for Osem should be for not being clueless -- E.g: let's use ActiveX, or even better, SilverPlight ;-) I'll gladly thank them IF I find out it was a conscious decision - i.e. - that it was not the random choice of contractor that made them choose those particular technologies. On second thought, maybe praising them even if the choice was random is still a good idea. Not sure. Absolutely a good idea. If they have never heard of, or considered, Linux, you have educated them. And next time, it might not be random. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
need help with PHP open source class
Hi, I am using the PHPwhois class ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwhois/ ) on my Speedy Whois website ( http://www.speedywhois.net/ ). My version of the class is 4 years old. I checked and there are many bugs, some of them I reported ( https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browsegroup_id=31207atid=401654 ), and they also didn't release PHPwhois for more than a year. I am now looking for someone to help me fix the bugs and release the PHPwhois class, and add it to my Speedy Whois release on sourceforge ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/speedywhois/ ). The code has to be rewritten, for example to avoid notices and warnings when using undefined variables etc. If one of you has some time, it would help if you can download the files from the CVS on PHPwhois (they don't release new tar.gz files), then check which bugs are not fixed and fix them. Then release PHPwhois - if they don't accept the release we can fork the project. And then release Speedy Whois with the bugs fixed. My estimate of the work is up to 3 days, maybe even one day of work if you're very good in programming. I can help test and generate bugs, but I'm not that good in object oriented programming. I also don't know how to download the files from CVS, if you let me know it can help (I use Windows XP). If you can help, please contact me. by the way, there is also a problem with domain names registered at godaddy - they don't return full whois results to my IP address. Do you have an idea how to overcome this? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: need help with PHP open source class
On 12/29/2009 03:45 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: Hi, I am using the PHPwhois class ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwhois/ ) on my Speedy Whois website ( http://www.speedywhois.net/ ). My version of the class is 4 years old. I checked and there are many bugs, some of them I reported ( https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browsegroup_id=31207atid=401654 ), and they also didn't release PHPwhois for more than a year. I am now looking for someone to help me fix the bugs and release the PHPwhois class, and add it to my Speedy Whois release on sourceforge ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/speedywhois/ ). The code has to be rewritten, for example to avoid notices and warnings when using undefined variables etc. If one of you has some time, it would help if you can download the files from the CVS on PHPwhois (they don't release new tar.gz files), then check which bugs are not fixed and fix them. Then release PHPwhois - if they don't accept the release we can fork the project. And then release Speedy Whois with the bugs fixed. My estimate of the work is up to 3 days, maybe even one day of work if you're very good in programming. I can help test and generate bugs, but I'm not that good in object oriented programming. I also don't know how to download the files from CVS, if you let me know it can help (I use Windows XP). If you can help, please contact me. by the way, there is also a problem with domain names registered at godaddy - they don't return full whois results to my IP address. Do you have an idea how to overcome this? IMO PHP developers should be aware of PEAR [1] and use it when possible. The repo includes a whois class called Net_Whois [2], maintained - current stable released last month (feature request). [1] http://pear.php.net/ [2] http://pear.php.net/package/Net_Whois Cheers -- Meir Kriheli ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
