Re: SFD in Day of Atonement
El jue, 02-09-2010 a las 07:03 +, Tzafrir Cohen escribió: On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 08:10:15AM +0200, Julian Daich wrote: Hi, Software Freedom Day (SFD)[ 1] is a worldwide celebration of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS). The goal in this celebration is to educate the worldwide public about the benefits of using high quality FOSS in education, in government, at home, and in business -- in short, everywhere! The non-profit organization Software Freedom International[ 2] coordinates SFD at a global level, providing support, giveaways and a point of collaboration, but volunteer teams around the world organize the local SFD events to impact their own communities. This year the FSD was selected to be on 18th of September which is alsothe Day of Atonement at the jewish calendar I'm highly involved in the FSD event at Madrid. It does not only mean that people highly involved at the event will unable to participate, but also that it will not be Israeli FSD in that date. I don't know how the desition was made. I wrote then about moving it on to a later date( September 30th) and I waiting for an answer. It colud be of great support if other people contact them also. http://wiki.hamakor.org.il/index.php/%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9D_%D7%97%D7%95%D7%A4%D7%A9_%D7%94%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%9B%D7%A0%D7%94 OK. Thanks. We decided to move the Madrid event to September 25 th. -- Julian Daich julia...@gmail.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Laptop
On Friday 03 September 2010 06:04:59 Steve G. wrote: My 4+ year old Macbook is dying a slow death, and I am contemplating getting a new laptop and would like your advice. Here are the parameters: - My environment is Linux, Ubuntu for the last 2-3 years, and I would like to have it available to me on the laptop if I can. I have little use for either Mac OS-X or Windows as far as actually making much use of the software, beyond vary basic usage (iTunes, VLC, etc.). Linux is a different story. - I have several reasons to buy a Windows 7 machine. First, I have a Magellan GPS that only works with Windows. Second, some bank accounts require it to fully function. Third, I can get a lot more computer for the money with Wintel than with Apple. Last, Ubuntu Laptops with the latest hardware may or may not work. - So, I am thinking about getting a 64x, core i3 laptop from Toshiba or Dell. These are available with 13-15 screen, 250-350GB HD (I think IDE, some are Sata but more expensive), 3-4GB RAM. In theory, at least, these can be virtualized, and I should be able to run either vmware, xen, virtual box or whatever client MS provides for free. One can get core i3 for around $500 So here are my questions: 1. Does anyone know if Win7 includes a virtualization program that would allow me to run Linux under it? How efficient is it - will I be able to put it on full screen, forget I am running Windows, and use my preferred environment? I don't know if it includes anything like that, but you can always install something like the open-source VirtualBox: http://www.virtualbox.org/ I've been using VirtualBox happily on top of Linux. There's also VMware which isn't free or gratis and other solutions. 2. Any recommendations for something that is fully compatible with Linux, in case I get an alternative and can get rid of the windows part? I bought this Acer laptop: http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/#computers-specs Acer Aspire 5738DZG and it works perfectly fine with Mandriva Linux 2010.1 (most everything I've tried there works, with a few minor glitches), though it's a relatively old model - Dual Core. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Optimising Code for Speed - http://shlom.in/optimise God considered inflicting XSLT as the tenth plague of Egypt, but then decided against it because he thought it would be too evil. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
RE: Laptop
Re which laptop, this is an interesting data point: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7851?hq_e=el http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7851?hq_e=elhq_m=1065883hq_l=3hq_v=392d56542 1 hq_m=1065883hq_l=3hq_v=392d565421 Re virtualization, I recommend the free open source VirtualBox, which works fine under Win7. http://www.virtualbox.org/ Good luck, Rony _ From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] On Behalf Of Steve G. Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:05 AM To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Laptop My 4+ year old Macbook is dying a slow death, and I am contemplating getting a new laptop and would like your advice. Here are the parameters: *My environment is Linux, Ubuntu for the last 2-3 years, and I would like to have it available to me on the laptop if I can. I have little use for either Mac OS-X or Windows as far as actually making much use of the software, beyond vary basic usage (iTunes, VLC, etc.). Linux is a different story. *I have several reasons to buy a Windows 7 machine. First, I have a Magellan GPS that only works with Windows. Second, some bank accounts require it to fully function. Third, I can get a lot more computer for the money with Wintel than with Apple. Last, Ubuntu Laptops with the latest hardware may or may not work. * So, I am thinking about getting a 64x, core i3 laptop from Toshiba or Dell. These are available with 13-15 screen, 250-350GB HD (I think IDE, some are Sata but more expensive), 3-4GB RAM. In theory, at least, these can be virtualized, and I should be able to run either vmware, xen, virtual box or whatever client MS provides for free. One can get core i3 for around $500 So here are my questions: 1. Does anyone know if Win7 includes a virtualization program that would allow me to run Linux under it? How efficient is it - will I be able to put it on full screen, forget I am running Windows, and use my preferred environment? 2. Any recommendations for something that is fully compatible with Linux, in case I get an alternative and can get rid of the windows part? 3. Any other advice? Thanks! Z. -- Check out my web site - www.words2u.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
IDE Hard Disk and IDE CD-ROM Drive for an aging PC
Do you have a working (but unused) hard disk with IDE interface and whose capacity is at least 100GB? Do you have a working (but unused) CD-ROM drive with IDE interface? Do you want to get rid of both but don't like to just throw away working hardware? Do you live or come frequently to Jerusalem and/or central part of Israel? If yes, please let me know so that I can pick them up for use in a refurbished old PC. Thanks, --- Omer -- Shakespeare Monkeys: cat /dev/urandom | strings -n 16 My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Laptop
At 11:59:22 on Friday Friday 03 September 2010, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Friday 03 September 2010 06:04:59 Steve G. wrote: My 4+ year old Macbook is dying a slow death, and I am contemplating getting a new laptop and would like your advice. Here are the parameters: - My environment is Linux, Ubuntu for the last 2-3 years, and I would like to have it available to me on the laptop if I can. I have little use for either Mac OS-X or Windows as far as actually making much use of the software, beyond vary basic usage (iTunes, VLC, etc.). Linux is a different story. - I have several reasons to buy a Windows 7 machine. First, I have a Magellan GPS that only works with Windows. Second, some bank accounts require it to fully function. Third, I can get a lot more computer for the money with Wintel than with Apple. Last, Ubuntu Laptops with the latest hardware may or may not work. - So, I am thinking about getting a 64x, core i3 laptop from Toshiba or Dell. These are available with 13-15 screen, 250-350GB HD (I think IDE, some are Sata but more expensive), 3-4GB RAM. In theory, at least, these can be virtualized, and I should be able to run either vmware, xen, virtual box or whatever client MS provides for free. One can get core i3 for around $500 So here are my questions: 1. Does anyone know if Win7 includes a virtualization program that would allow me to run Linux under it? How efficient is it - will I be able to put it on full screen, forget I am running Windows, and use my preferred environment? I don't know if it includes anything like that, but you can always install something like the open-source VirtualBox: http://www.virtualbox.org/ You could even (what am I saying?) run Linux on the machine, and run Windows under VirtualBox for your GPS. I've been using VirtualBox happily on top of Linux. There's also VMware which isn't free or gratis and other solutions. 2. Any recommendations for something that is fully compatible with Linux, in case I get an alternative and can get rid of the windows part? I bought this Acer laptop: http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/#computers-specs Acer Aspire 5738DZG and it works perfectly fine with Mandriva Linux 2010.1 (most everything I've tried there works, with a few minor glitches), though it's a relatively old model - Dual Core. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Laptop
I would run windows under linux, if I had a working installation of windows... I was in the past unable to make ANY windows distro run under virtualization, even with a legal install disk and license number. I no longer have handy access to windows. Buying it outright is worse than not worth it... Z. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.comwrote: At 11:59:22 on Friday Friday 03 September 2010, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Friday 03 September 2010 06:04:59 Steve G. wrote: My 4+ year old Macbook is dying a slow death, and I am contemplating getting a new laptop and would like your advice. Here are the parameters: - My environment is Linux, Ubuntu for the last 2-3 years, and I would like to have it available to me on the laptop if I can. I have little use for either Mac OS-X or Windows as far as actually making much use of the software, beyond vary basic usage (iTunes, VLC, etc.). Linux is a different story. - I have several reasons to buy a Windows 7 machine. First, I have a Magellan GPS that only works with Windows. Second, some bank accounts require it to fully function. Third, I can get a lot more computer for the money with Wintel than with Apple. Last, Ubuntu Laptops with the latest hardware may or may not work. - So, I am thinking about getting a 64x, core i3 laptop from Toshiba or Dell. These are available with 13-15 screen, 250-350GB HD (I think IDE, some are Sata but more expensive), 3-4GB RAM. In theory, at least, these can be virtualized, and I should be able to run either vmware, xen, virtual box or whatever client MS provides for free. One can get core i3 for around $500 So here are my questions: 1. Does anyone know if Win7 includes a virtualization program that would allow me to run Linux under it? How efficient is it - will I be able to put it on full screen, forget I am running Windows, and use my preferred environment? I don't know if it includes anything like that, but you can always install something like the open-source VirtualBox: http://www.virtualbox.org/ You could even (what am I saying?) run Linux on the machine, and run Windows under VirtualBox for your GPS. I've been using VirtualBox happily on top of Linux. There's also VMware which isn't free or gratis and other solutions. 2. Any recommendations for something that is fully compatible with Linux, in case I get an alternative and can get rid of the windows part? I bought this Acer laptop: http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/#computers-specs Acer Aspire 5738DZG and it works perfectly fine with Mandriva Linux 2010.1 (most everything I've tried there works, with a few minor glitches), though it's a relatively old model - Dual Core. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Check out my web site - www.words2u.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Laptop
2010/9/3 Steve G. word...@gmail.com: Second, some bank accounts require it to fully function. Which bank accounts are those? -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Hebrew on Android (and other issues)
I have heard that the Hebrew on Android devices is lacking. Orange does not have a Galaxy to test drive at the moment, so could any Android users let me know of any (all) problems with Android devices? Hebrew- and non-Hebrew related. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew on Android (and other issues)
I have a Galaxy S, and as of Android 2.1, there's no Hebrew yet. I understand there is in 2.2, and an update should be on its way this month if the rumors can be believed. Aside from that, I have no real complaints, except it's been a strange transition from my old iphone. I'm getting used to it, though. sambo On Sep 3, 2010 9:25 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: I have heard that the Hebrew on Android devices is lacking. Orange does not have a Galaxy to test drive at the moment, so could any Android users let me know of any (all) problems with Android devices? Hebrew- and non-Hebrew related. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew on Android (and other issues)
What Hebrew do you need? interface? fonts? keyboard? I know people with Hebrew fonts and keyboard on Android 2.1 (and non Hebrew UI), but maybe they payed the store to set it up for them. Evyatar Parker 2010/9/3 sammy ominsky s...@avoidant.org I have a Galaxy S, and as of Android 2.1, there's no Hebrew yet. I understand there is in 2.2, and an update should be on its way this month if the rumors can be believed. Aside from that, I have no real complaints, except it's been a strange transition from my old iphone. I'm getting used to it, though. sambo On Sep 3, 2010 9:25 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: I have heard that the Hebrew on Android devices is lacking. Orange does not have a Galaxy to test drive at the moment, so could any Android users let me know of any (all) problems with Android devices? Hebrew- and non-Hebrew related. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew on Android (and other issues)
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 17:27, Evyatar Parker evp55...@gmail.com wrote: What Hebrew do you need? interface? fonts? keyboard? I know people with Hebrew fonts and keyboard on Android 2.1 (and non Hebrew UI), but maybe they payed the store to set it up for them. Evyatar Parker Good question. I _need_ the ability to read and send SMS messages in Hebrew, and full read/write support for Hebrew in the web browser. I need Hebrew for my contacts names, file names, as well as the Calendar. I would prefer a Hebrew UI for the device, but I can live with the UI in English. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew on Android (and other issues)
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 17:35:57 +0300 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 17:27, Evyatar Parker evp55...@gmail.com wrote: What Hebrew do you need? interface? fonts? keyboard? I know people with Hebrew fonts and keyboard on Android 2.1 (and non Hebrew UI), but maybe they payed the store to set it up for them. Evyatar Parker Good question. I _need_ the ability to read and send SMS messages in Hebrew, and full read/write support for Hebrew in the web browser. I need Hebrew for my contacts names, file names, as well as the Calendar. I would prefer a Hebrew UI for the device, but I can live with the UI in English. From what I know (just researched this yesterday as I'm debating regarding importing a new phone between blackberry, iphone and andoid, probably nexus one, any recommendations?). Anyway on point, as far as I can tell there is no official hebrew support on either android 2.1 nor 2.2. There is an unofficial hebrew fonts package, but you need to root your phone for that (and possibly void your warranty in the process). As for a keyboard, there is the softkeyboard package http://code.google.com/p/softkeyboard/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew on Android (and other issues)
Hi, I have Froyo on Nexus One I can write and read Hebrew, by a root based crack (not a big deal to do - and very common procedure) The issue I see which is most annoying is mixed Hebrew with English and Numbers It has the classic transpose problem, where the number is written in opposite direction So it looks like so תתקשר אלי 32132190 instead of תתקשר אלי 09123123 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 17:27, Evyatar Parker evp55...@gmail.com wrote: What Hebrew do you need? interface? fonts? keyboard? I know people with Hebrew fonts and keyboard on Android 2.1 (and non Hebrew UI), but maybe they payed the store to set it up for them. Evyatar Parker Good question. I _need_ the ability to read and send SMS messages in Hebrew, and full read/write support for Hebrew in the web browser. I need Hebrew for my contacts names, file names, as well as the Calendar. I would prefer a Hebrew UI for the device, but I can live with the UI in English. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew on Android (and other issues)
Hi, Here is something interesting: Cellcom sells the Motorola Milestone, which is Android 2.1 with full hebrew support. I don't know any people inside Motorola who did the hebrew (or perhaps it was done by a third party?), but maybe we can convince Motorola to donate the hebrew modifications back to the android public tree? If someone has a contact in Motorola which relates to Android development, please send his contact details to me off the list. I'll email this guy :) Thanks, Hetz 2010/9/3 Noam Rathaus no...@beyondsecurity.com Hi, I have Froyo on Nexus One I can write and read Hebrew, by a root based crack (not a big deal to do - and very common procedure) The issue I see which is most annoying is mixed Hebrew with English and Numbers It has the classic transpose problem, where the number is written in opposite direction So it looks like so תתקשר אלי 32132190 instead of תתקשר אלי 09123123 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 17:27, Evyatar Parker evp55...@gmail.com wrote: What Hebrew do you need? interface? fonts? keyboard? I know people with Hebrew fonts and keyboard on Android 2.1 (and non Hebrew UI), but maybe they payed the store to set it up for them. Evyatar Parker Good question. I _need_ the ability to read and send SMS messages in Hebrew, and full read/write support for Hebrew in the web browser. I need Hebrew for my contacts names, file names, as well as the Calendar. I would prefer a Hebrew UI for the device, but I can live with the UI in English. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
question about a firewall
Hi people, As I setup my VPS/dedicated hosting here in Israel, I have been asked by the hosting company (Netvision) to either buy and bring a firewall or rent from them since the bandwidth I bought exceeds what is allowed under their firewall. They're offering Cisco 1383 (or 1838, I don't remember exactly which model). As a person who really loves Linux, I thought to myself: Why do I need to buy/rent some proprietary Cisco solution? Can't Linux handle the firewall task well? I'm sure Cisco/Checkpoint solutions are great, but yet... So here's my question: If you were in my shoes, would you take a cisco or apply some Linux solution? If you say Linux solution, what kind of solution? Could you name an app/module/whatever that can do a good protection against the usual suspect and protect against stuff like DDoS attack? I prefer the Linux solution because then I can run other services on this machine (small mail server, nagios, etc..) Suggestions? Thanks, Hetz -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew on Android (and other issues)
Dotan Cohen wrote: I have heard that the Hebrew on Android devices is lacking. Orange does not have a Galaxy to test drive at the moment, so could any Android users let me know of any (all) problems with Android devices? Hebrew- and non-Hebrew related. Thanks. I'll try to summarize the information, though things are not simple by a long stretch. Vanilla Android 2.2 comes, built in, with Hebrew and Arabic fonts. These, however, arrive as separate files, so expect device manufacturers to pull them off. Aside from that, 2.2 is identical to all previous releases, which is another way of saying that Hebrew is somewhat supported, but sucks. Main bugs: * Appointment text in day view in Calendar is displayed the wrong way * Numbers in Hebrew context are displayed from right to left (makes it extremely difficult to receive SMS instructions for, say, an address to get to). * Scrolled lists with mixed English/Hebrew items have items disappearing when scrolled. Of these, I have not confirmed whether the first one is still in 2.2. The other two definitely are. Phones, and possibly other devices, sold in Israel get special Hebrew adaptations done to them. The two I've checked are the Samsung Galaxy and the HTC Magic. For the later, I was the one doing the i18n adaptations. Both did not suffer the full scale of the first two problems. Both did suffer the third one, to various degrees. Also, both had varying degrees of completeness to the work done. Also, many people do not run vanilla or device provided Android at all. Many run the Cyanogenmod[1] distribution (recently on slashdot[2]). I know for a fact that it incorporates a solution to at least some of the problems spelled above (the Calendar one at least used to incorporate a patch[3] sent in by me, that was never merged into Android proper), and thus might provide far better Hebrew support than vanilla Android. Shachar 1 - http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ 2 - http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/09/01/0343231/Android-Fork-Brings-Froyo-To-12-Smartphones 3 - https://review.source.android.com/#change,12661 -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: question about a firewall
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 22:40 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi people, As I setup my VPS/dedicated hosting here in Israel, I have been asked by the hosting company (Netvision) to either buy and bring a firewall or rent from them since the bandwidth I bought exceeds what is allowed under their firewall. [... snipped ...] So here's my question: If you were in my shoes, would you take a cisco or apply some Linux solution? If you say Linux solution, what kind of solution? Could you name an app/module/whatever that can do a good protection against the usual suspect and protect against stuff like DDoS attack? How about OpenBSD? I prefer the Linux solution because then I can run other services on this machine (small mail server, nagios, etc..) If I were in your shoes, I'd prefer to run the firewall on a separate machine, and rig the other machine/s (which runs the other services) against the consequences of a break into the firewall machine. --- Omer -- PHP - the language of the Vogons. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: question about a firewall
Hi. I am in your shoes. I maintain several Linux systems hosted in Netvision (currently) for the last few years. For the last 7 years or so, I have been using iptables to protect my systems from intrusion. I have been using denyhosts to prevent unauthorized SSH logins, and prevented direct root login, or blocked all/some except my home fixed address and some other well-trusted addresses. This setup has proven itself to be effective and reliable, with zero intrusions (I stopped logging them after a while, because it's not that interesting, after all. The amount of random port scans are huge). Assuming you understand iptables, and you know how to handle it right, there is no problem with that solution. None that I have noticed. Ez 2010/9/3 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com Hi people, As I setup my VPS/dedicated hosting here in Israel, I have been asked by the hosting company (Netvision) to either buy and bring a firewall or rent from them since the bandwidth I bought exceeds what is allowed under their firewall. They're offering Cisco 1383 (or 1838, I don't remember exactly which model). As a person who really loves Linux, I thought to myself: Why do I need to buy/rent some proprietary Cisco solution? Can't Linux handle the firewall task well? I'm sure Cisco/Checkpoint solutions are great, but yet... So here's my question: If you were in my shoes, would you take a cisco or apply some Linux solution? If you say Linux solution, what kind of solution? Could you name an app/module/whatever that can do a good protection against the usual suspect and protect against stuff like DDoS attack? I prefer the Linux solution because then I can run other services on this machine (small mail server, nagios, etc..) Suggestions? Thanks, Hetz -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: question about a firewall
I'm doing this thing right now. The only issue I worry about is attacks like DDoS. Hetz 2010/9/4 Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il Hi. I am in your shoes. I maintain several Linux systems hosted in Netvision (currently) for the last few years. For the last 7 years or so, I have been using iptables to protect my systems from intrusion. I have been using denyhosts to prevent unauthorized SSH logins, and prevented direct root login, or blocked all/some except my home fixed address and some other well-trusted addresses. This setup has proven itself to be effective and reliable, with zero intrusions (I stopped logging them after a while, because it's not that interesting, after all. The amount of random port scans are huge). Assuming you understand iptables, and you know how to handle it right, there is no problem with that solution. None that I have noticed. Ez 2010/9/3 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com Hi people, As I setup my VPS/dedicated hosting here in Israel, I have been asked by the hosting company (Netvision) to either buy and bring a firewall or rent from them since the bandwidth I bought exceeds what is allowed under their firewall. They're offering Cisco 1383 (or 1838, I don't remember exactly which model). As a person who really loves Linux, I thought to myself: Why do I need to buy/rent some proprietary Cisco solution? Can't Linux handle the firewall task well? I'm sure Cisco/Checkpoint solutions are great, but yet... So here's my question: If you were in my shoes, would you take a cisco or apply some Linux solution? If you say Linux solution, what kind of solution? Could you name an app/module/whatever that can do a good protection against the usual suspect and protect against stuff like DDoS attack? I prefer the Linux solution because then I can run other services on this machine (small mail server, nagios, etc..) Suggestions? Thanks, Hetz -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: question about a firewall
Your Cisco won't protect you against these either. There are specific DDoS protection systems, which you are not going to try and afford. Unless your servers are about gambling, porn or something very hot, you will not likely be the target of DDoS attack. I haven't been myself, for the last 7 years or so. Ez On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing this thing right now. The only issue I worry about is attacks like DDoS. Hetz 2010/9/4 Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il Hi. I am in your shoes. I maintain several Linux systems hosted in Netvision (currently) for the last few years. For the last 7 years or so, I have been using iptables to protect my systems from intrusion. I have been using denyhosts to prevent unauthorized SSH logins, and prevented direct root login, or blocked all/some except my home fixed address and some other well-trusted addresses. This setup has proven itself to be effective and reliable, with zero intrusions (I stopped logging them after a while, because it's not that interesting, after all. The amount of random port scans are huge). Assuming you understand iptables, and you know how to handle it right, there is no problem with that solution. None that I have noticed. Ez 2010/9/3 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com Hi people, As I setup my VPS/dedicated hosting here in Israel, I have been asked by the hosting company (Netvision) to either buy and bring a firewall or rent from them since the bandwidth I bought exceeds what is allowed under their firewall. They're offering Cisco 1383 (or 1838, I don't remember exactly which model). As a person who really loves Linux, I thought to myself: Why do I need to buy/rent some proprietary Cisco solution? Can't Linux handle the firewall task well? I'm sure Cisco/Checkpoint solutions are great, but yet... So here's my question: If you were in my shoes, would you take a cisco or apply some Linux solution? If you say Linux solution, what kind of solution? Could you name an app/module/whatever that can do a good protection against the usual suspect and protect against stuff like DDoS attack? I prefer the Linux solution because then I can run other services on this machine (small mail server, nagios, etc..) Suggestions? Thanks, Hetz -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: question about a firewall
I'm not writing in my blogs about any of the issues that you mentioned, nor do I host any such content, yet I had the honour of being DDoS attacked. Hetz 2010/9/4 Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il Your Cisco won't protect you against these either. There are specific DDoS protection systems, which you are not going to try and afford. Unless your servers are about gambling, porn or something very hot, you will not likely be the target of DDoS attack. I haven't been myself, for the last 7 years or so. Ez On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing this thing right now. The only issue I worry about is attacks like DDoS. Hetz 2010/9/4 Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il Hi. I am in your shoes. I maintain several Linux systems hosted in Netvision (currently) for the last few years. For the last 7 years or so, I have been using iptables to protect my systems from intrusion. I have been using denyhosts to prevent unauthorized SSH logins, and prevented direct root login, or blocked all/some except my home fixed address and some other well-trusted addresses. This setup has proven itself to be effective and reliable, with zero intrusions (I stopped logging them after a while, because it's not that interesting, after all. The amount of random port scans are huge). Assuming you understand iptables, and you know how to handle it right, there is no problem with that solution. None that I have noticed. Ez 2010/9/3 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com Hi people, As I setup my VPS/dedicated hosting here in Israel, I have been asked by the hosting company (Netvision) to either buy and bring a firewall or rent from them since the bandwidth I bought exceeds what is allowed under their firewall. They're offering Cisco 1383 (or 1838, I don't remember exactly which model). As a person who really loves Linux, I thought to myself: Why do I need to buy/rent some proprietary Cisco solution? Can't Linux handle the firewall task well? I'm sure Cisco/Checkpoint solutions are great, but yet... So here's my question: If you were in my shoes, would you take a cisco or apply some Linux solution? If you say Linux solution, what kind of solution? Could you name an app/module/whatever that can do a good protection against the usual suspect and protect against stuff like DDoS attack? I prefer the Linux solution because then I can run other services on this machine (small mail server, nagios, etc..) Suggestions? Thanks, Hetz -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: question about a firewall
Well. It's either I never felt it, or just never caused anything I could have felt. Ez On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not writing in my blogs about any of the issues that you mentioned, nor do I host any such content, yet I had the honour of being DDoS attacked. Hetz 2010/9/4 Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il Your Cisco won't protect you against these either. There are specific DDoS protection systems, which you are not going to try and afford. Unless your servers are about gambling, porn or something very hot, you will not likely be the target of DDoS attack. I haven't been myself, for the last 7 years or so. Ez On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing this thing right now. The only issue I worry about is attacks like DDoS. Hetz 2010/9/4 Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il Hi. I am in your shoes. I maintain several Linux systems hosted in Netvision (currently) for the last few years. For the last 7 years or so, I have been using iptables to protect my systems from intrusion. I have been using denyhosts to prevent unauthorized SSH logins, and prevented direct root login, or blocked all/some except my home fixed address and some other well-trusted addresses. This setup has proven itself to be effective and reliable, with zero intrusions (I stopped logging them after a while, because it's not that interesting, after all. The amount of random port scans are huge). Assuming you understand iptables, and you know how to handle it right, there is no problem with that solution. None that I have noticed. Ez 2010/9/3 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com Hi people, As I setup my VPS/dedicated hosting here in Israel, I have been asked by the hosting company (Netvision) to either buy and bring a firewall or rent from them since the bandwidth I bought exceeds what is allowed under their firewall. They're offering Cisco 1383 (or 1838, I don't remember exactly which model). As a person who really loves Linux, I thought to myself: Why do I need to buy/rent some proprietary Cisco solution? Can't Linux handle the firewall task well? I'm sure Cisco/Checkpoint solutions are great, but yet... So here's my question: If you were in my shoes, would you take a cisco or apply some Linux solution? If you say Linux solution, what kind of solution? Could you name an app/module/whatever that can do a good protection against the usual suspect and protect against stuff like DDoS attack? I prefer the Linux solution because then I can run other services on this machine (small mail server, nagios, etc..) Suggestions? Thanks, Hetz -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
