Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP
Ira, On Tuesday 04 May 2004 08:10, Ira Abramov wrote: indeed you should have. when my current prepaid year is up I intend to make it VERY clear to them that I do not intend to pay more for the service that was so far built-in. afterall my machine is online 24/7, what difference does it make if it is a fixed IP or a long lease? either way I am always occupying an IP address, may as well be a fixed one. You obviously know nothing about economics. :-) The reason they charge more for a fixed IP is the same reason dogs leak their genitals: because they can. Or to put it in economic terms: because people are willing to pay extra for it. It has nothing to do with the their cost. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] Codefidence. A name you can trust (TM) http://www.codefidence.com I am Jack's Overwritten Stack Pointer -- Hackers Club, the movie = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP
Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Yonah Russ, from the post of Mon, 03 May: they wanted me to pay 200- I complained and they lowered it to 150. I should have complained more. indeed you should have. when my current prepaid year is up I intend to make it VERY clear to them that I do not intend to pay more for the service that was so far built-in. afterall my machine is online 24/7, what difference does it make if it is a fixed IP or a long lease? either way I am always occupying an IP address, may as well be a fixed one. unfortunately they called me the night before my prepaid year was up- it was either get cut off the next morning and shop around for an ISP with a better deal, or pay up and stay connected :( yonah = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Ira, On Tuesday 04 May 2004 08:10, Ira Abramov wrote: indeed you should have. when my current prepaid year is up I intend to make it VERY clear to them that I do not intend to pay more for the service that was so far built-in. afterall my machine is online 24/7, what difference does it make if it is a fixed IP or a long lease? either way I am always occupying an IP address, may as well be a fixed one. You obviously know nothing about economics. :-) The reason they charge more for a fixed IP is the same reason dogs leak their genitals: because they can. Or to put it in economic terms: because people are willing to pay extra for it. It has nothing to do with the their cost. This is possible- on the other hand they might be running out of static IP's to give out. Either way, the real question is do any other ISP's even offer static IP's and if so, for how much? yonah Gilad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP
I've followed this thread since it matters me for the same reason it does to you. Why did they gave it for no charge earlier ? maybe they still had free static's to give but all other ISPs did charge. In comparison to them they could have charge without any doubts. I called them to learn of their fixed IP policy. I spoken to a new customers representative (not an existing-customer representative). She told me that she cant tell for sure that existing customers keep or loose their fixed IPs (that is - free of charge of course) when their contract is over, BUT new customers DO get a free static IP. So maybe it's a matter of pressure on them and/or flexebility of the customer to switch ISPs or at least prepare for such moves until you get the real sales guy who (hopefully) offers you to stay, with your fixed IP. Donno. What else can be done? Boaz. Yonah Russ wrote: Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Yonah Russ, from the post of Mon, 03 May: they wanted me to pay 200- I complained and they lowered it to 150. I should have complained more. indeed you should have. when my current prepaid year is up I intend to make it VERY clear to them that I do not intend to pay more for the service that was so far built-in. afterall my machine is online 24/7, what difference does it make if it is a fixed IP or a long lease? either way I am always occupying an IP address, may as well be a fixed one. unfortunately they called me the night before my prepaid year was up- it was either get cut off the next morning and shop around for an ISP with a better deal, or pay up and stay connected :( yonah = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP
Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Tue, 04 May: The reason they charge more for a fixed IP is the same reason dogs leak their genitals: because they can. Or to put it in economic terms: because people are willing to pay extra for it. It has nothing to do with the their cost. I know that, and for that reason I'm not going to pay extra. I will be very happy to pay extra for anything that indeed COSTS, not for this. For this same reason I refuse to subscribe to cable TV to channels I don't need, nor pay or commit to Partner communications for an upgrade to a phone that costs them peanuts and my monthly bills pay for quite sufficiently as it is. It is both my right and my duty to tell vendors in their face what I think of their pricing scheme when it changes and vote with my feet if the need arrises. -- Circus freak Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] ISPs and fixed IP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 04 May 2004 05:10, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Yonah Russ, from the post of Mon, 03 May: they wanted me to pay 200- I complained and they lowered it to 150. I should have complained more. indeed you should have. when my current prepaid year is up I intend to make it VERY clear to them that I do not intend to pay more for the service that was so far built-in. afterall my machine is online 24/7, what difference does it make if it is a fixed IP or a long lease? either way I am always occupying an IP address, may as well be a fixed one. Blah, I've already paid them :-( - -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAl2PvRkS5DWK1mZkRAhyiAKCticc4tsedzBE1c4V50g1XiINuMwCfVduL ji60HkkjuzAisz80QaEdXs8= =YKVW -END PGP SIGNATURE- To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] ISPs and fixed IP
Quoting Yonah Russ, from the post of Mon, 03 May: they wanted me to pay 200- I complained and they lowered it to 150. I should have complained more. indeed you should have. when my current prepaid year is up I intend to make it VERY clear to them that I do not intend to pay more for the service that was so far built-in. afterall my machine is online 24/7, what difference does it make if it is a fixed IP or a long lease? either way I am always occupying an IP address, may as well be a fixed one. -- The Rocket Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
