Are Android questions on topic here?
Question to the (non-existent) LINUX-IL cabal: this is a list for technical questions on Linux. Some Android issues have been discussed here. Are technical Android discussions officially on topic or off topic? Can we decide once and for all? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Are Android questions on topic here?
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:56:28PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Question to the (non-existent) LINUX-IL cabal: this is a list for technical questions on Linux. Some Android issues have been discussed here. Are technical Android discussions officially on topic or off topic? Can we decide once and for all? Isn't Android Linux? Why is there a question? Did anyone ever try to imply that Android is off-topic? BTW, once upon a time it was defined as Linux AND Israel. -- Didi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Are Android questions on topic here?
On 11/05/11 12:56, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Question to the (non-existent) LINUX-IL cabal: this is a list for technical questions on Linux. Some Android issues have been discussed here. Are technical Android discussions officially on topic or off topic? Can we decide once and for all? I'm not sure whether I'd be considered part of the cabal or not, but here's my opinion, for what it is worth: IMHO, general questions about android are okay. Specific questions about rooting and operating are okay as long as they don't take too much of the list's traffic. Programming questions (which are okay if they are on Linux) are off topic, unless they relate to the Linux aspects of Android. Again, just my opinion, and I offer it mostly to foster discussion so we can reach a consensus. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Are Android questions on topic here?
On 11/05/11 13:01, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:56:28PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Question to the (non-existent) LINUX-IL cabal: this is a list for technical questions on Linux. Some Android issues have been discussed here. Are technical Android discussions officially on topic or off topic? Can we decide once and for all? Isn't Android Linux? In a nutshell - no. It is a completely different set of APIs, with some Linux kernel deep underneath. Why is there a question? Because while the list does tolerate the occasional I'm trying to do this impossible thing in Linux, and there is even an open source project[1] by, among others, yours truly, that was triggered by precisely such a question[2], I'm not sure we would like to hear a bunch of How do I save my Layout when my Activity is destroyed due to landscape to portrait orientation. Did anyone ever try to imply that Android is off-topic? I think Oleg might be erring on the side of caution here, but I think it's a good side to err to. BTW, once upon a time it was defined as Linux AND Israel. Good point. I hereby revise my previous answer to include BiDi related Android issue as on topic as well :-) Shachar 1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/privbind/ 2 - http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg48799.html -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Are Android questions on topic here?
On Wed, May 11, 2011, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote about Re: Are Android questions on topic here?: Isn't Android Linux? I think Richard Stallman would point out that Android *is* Linux, but it *isn't* GNU/Linux ;-) That being said, I suspect that most Android discussions would *not* be about its Linux kernel, but rather about its applications, its configuration, and so on, which have very little (if anything) in common with the more typical Linux distributions. So it might make sense to create a sister mailing list, android-il, and dedicate linux-il for GNU/Linux only. But I guess that I have no objections (quite the contrary) that Android discussions continue to be held here, until the time is right to split the mailing list. But I'm not on the cabal... -- Nadav Har'El| Wednesday, May 11 2011, 7 Iyyar 5771 n...@math.technion.ac.il |- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Gates' Law: Every 18 months, the speed of http://nadav.harel.org.il |software halves. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Are Android questions on topic here?
As one of the most vociferous deniers of the existence of the IGLU Cabal (and whether it is the same as the LINUX-IL Cabal or different from it), let me chime in with my opinion. First, let's make sure there is not already an Android-IL mailing list. If yes, make its existence known and hammered into the minds of the Android-infected Linux-IL participants. If not: Let's make Android questions on-topic on the Linux-IL mailing list as long as they don't deal (much or deeply) with Java. Then, Once the list gets swamped with Android related questions to the annoyance of Android-less people (such as me, for the time being), we'll revisit this decision and have someone create an Android-IL mailing list (if such a list doesn't already exist). --- Omer On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 13:41 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 11/05/11 13:01, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:56:28PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Question to the (non-existent) LINUX-IL cabal: this is a list for technical questions on Linux. Some Android issues have been discussed here. Are technical Android discussions officially on topic or off topic? Can we decide once and for all? Isn't Android Linux? In a nutshell - no. It is a completely different set of APIs, with some Linux kernel deep underneath. Why is there a question? Because while the list does tolerate the occasional I'm trying to do this impossible thing in Linux, and there is even an open source project[1] by, among others, yours truly, that was triggered by precisely such a question[2], I'm not sure we would like to hear a bunch of How do I save my Layout when my Activity is destroyed due to landscape to portrait orientation. Did anyone ever try to imply that Android is off-topic? I think Oleg might be erring on the side of caution here, but I think it's a good side to err to. BTW, once upon a time it was defined as Linux AND Israel. Good point. I hereby revise my previous answer to include BiDi related Android issue as on topic as well :-) Shachar 1 - http://sourceforge.net/projects/privbind/ 2 - http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg48799.html -- There is no IGLU Cabal because My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
