Re: Laptop
On Friday 03 September 2010 06:04:59 Steve G. wrote: My 4+ year old Macbook is dying a slow death, and I am contemplating getting a new laptop and would like your advice. Here are the parameters: - My environment is Linux, Ubuntu for the last 2-3 years, and I would like to have it available to me on the laptop if I can. I have little use for either Mac OS-X or Windows as far as actually making much use of the software, beyond vary basic usage (iTunes, VLC, etc.). Linux is a different story. - I have several reasons to buy a Windows 7 machine. First, I have a Magellan GPS that only works with Windows. Second, some bank accounts require it to fully function. Third, I can get a lot more computer for the money with Wintel than with Apple. Last, Ubuntu Laptops with the latest hardware may or may not work. - So, I am thinking about getting a 64x, core i3 laptop from Toshiba or Dell. These are available with 13-15 screen, 250-350GB HD (I think IDE, some are Sata but more expensive), 3-4GB RAM. In theory, at least, these can be virtualized, and I should be able to run either vmware, xen, virtual box or whatever client MS provides for free. One can get core i3 for around $500 So here are my questions: 1. Does anyone know if Win7 includes a virtualization program that would allow me to run Linux under it? How efficient is it - will I be able to put it on full screen, forget I am running Windows, and use my preferred environment? I don't know if it includes anything like that, but you can always install something like the open-source VirtualBox: http://www.virtualbox.org/ I've been using VirtualBox happily on top of Linux. There's also VMware which isn't free or gratis and other solutions. 2. Any recommendations for something that is fully compatible with Linux, in case I get an alternative and can get rid of the windows part? I bought this Acer laptop: http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/#computers-specs Acer Aspire 5738DZG and it works perfectly fine with Mandriva Linux 2010.1 (most everything I've tried there works, with a few minor glitches), though it's a relatively old model - Dual Core. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Optimising Code for Speed - http://shlom.in/optimise God considered inflicting XSLT as the tenth plague of Egypt, but then decided against it because he thought it would be too evil. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
RE: Laptop
Re which laptop, this is an interesting data point: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7851?hq_e=el http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7851?hq_e=elhq_m=1065883hq_l=3hq_v=392d56542 1 hq_m=1065883hq_l=3hq_v=392d565421 Re virtualization, I recommend the free open source VirtualBox, which works fine under Win7. http://www.virtualbox.org/ Good luck, Rony _ From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] On Behalf Of Steve G. Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:05 AM To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Laptop My 4+ year old Macbook is dying a slow death, and I am contemplating getting a new laptop and would like your advice. Here are the parameters: *My environment is Linux, Ubuntu for the last 2-3 years, and I would like to have it available to me on the laptop if I can. I have little use for either Mac OS-X or Windows as far as actually making much use of the software, beyond vary basic usage (iTunes, VLC, etc.). Linux is a different story. *I have several reasons to buy a Windows 7 machine. First, I have a Magellan GPS that only works with Windows. Second, some bank accounts require it to fully function. Third, I can get a lot more computer for the money with Wintel than with Apple. Last, Ubuntu Laptops with the latest hardware may or may not work. * So, I am thinking about getting a 64x, core i3 laptop from Toshiba or Dell. These are available with 13-15 screen, 250-350GB HD (I think IDE, some are Sata but more expensive), 3-4GB RAM. In theory, at least, these can be virtualized, and I should be able to run either vmware, xen, virtual box or whatever client MS provides for free. One can get core i3 for around $500 So here are my questions: 1. Does anyone know if Win7 includes a virtualization program that would allow me to run Linux under it? How efficient is it - will I be able to put it on full screen, forget I am running Windows, and use my preferred environment? 2. Any recommendations for something that is fully compatible with Linux, in case I get an alternative and can get rid of the windows part? 3. Any other advice? Thanks! Z. -- Check out my web site - www.words2u.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Laptop
At 11:59:22 on Friday Friday 03 September 2010, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Friday 03 September 2010 06:04:59 Steve G. wrote: My 4+ year old Macbook is dying a slow death, and I am contemplating getting a new laptop and would like your advice. Here are the parameters: - My environment is Linux, Ubuntu for the last 2-3 years, and I would like to have it available to me on the laptop if I can. I have little use for either Mac OS-X or Windows as far as actually making much use of the software, beyond vary basic usage (iTunes, VLC, etc.). Linux is a different story. - I have several reasons to buy a Windows 7 machine. First, I have a Magellan GPS that only works with Windows. Second, some bank accounts require it to fully function. Third, I can get a lot more computer for the money with Wintel than with Apple. Last, Ubuntu Laptops with the latest hardware may or may not work. - So, I am thinking about getting a 64x, core i3 laptop from Toshiba or Dell. These are available with 13-15 screen, 250-350GB HD (I think IDE, some are Sata but more expensive), 3-4GB RAM. In theory, at least, these can be virtualized, and I should be able to run either vmware, xen, virtual box or whatever client MS provides for free. One can get core i3 for around $500 So here are my questions: 1. Does anyone know if Win7 includes a virtualization program that would allow me to run Linux under it? How efficient is it - will I be able to put it on full screen, forget I am running Windows, and use my preferred environment? I don't know if it includes anything like that, but you can always install something like the open-source VirtualBox: http://www.virtualbox.org/ You could even (what am I saying?) run Linux on the machine, and run Windows under VirtualBox for your GPS. I've been using VirtualBox happily on top of Linux. There's also VMware which isn't free or gratis and other solutions. 2. Any recommendations for something that is fully compatible with Linux, in case I get an alternative and can get rid of the windows part? I bought this Acer laptop: http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/#computers-specs Acer Aspire 5738DZG and it works perfectly fine with Mandriva Linux 2010.1 (most everything I've tried there works, with a few minor glitches), though it's a relatively old model - Dual Core. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Laptop
I would run windows under linux, if I had a working installation of windows... I was in the past unable to make ANY windows distro run under virtualization, even with a legal install disk and license number. I no longer have handy access to windows. Buying it outright is worse than not worth it... Z. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.comwrote: At 11:59:22 on Friday Friday 03 September 2010, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: On Friday 03 September 2010 06:04:59 Steve G. wrote: My 4+ year old Macbook is dying a slow death, and I am contemplating getting a new laptop and would like your advice. Here are the parameters: - My environment is Linux, Ubuntu for the last 2-3 years, and I would like to have it available to me on the laptop if I can. I have little use for either Mac OS-X or Windows as far as actually making much use of the software, beyond vary basic usage (iTunes, VLC, etc.). Linux is a different story. - I have several reasons to buy a Windows 7 machine. First, I have a Magellan GPS that only works with Windows. Second, some bank accounts require it to fully function. Third, I can get a lot more computer for the money with Wintel than with Apple. Last, Ubuntu Laptops with the latest hardware may or may not work. - So, I am thinking about getting a 64x, core i3 laptop from Toshiba or Dell. These are available with 13-15 screen, 250-350GB HD (I think IDE, some are Sata but more expensive), 3-4GB RAM. In theory, at least, these can be virtualized, and I should be able to run either vmware, xen, virtual box or whatever client MS provides for free. One can get core i3 for around $500 So here are my questions: 1. Does anyone know if Win7 includes a virtualization program that would allow me to run Linux under it? How efficient is it - will I be able to put it on full screen, forget I am running Windows, and use my preferred environment? I don't know if it includes anything like that, but you can always install something like the open-source VirtualBox: http://www.virtualbox.org/ You could even (what am I saying?) run Linux on the machine, and run Windows under VirtualBox for your GPS. I've been using VirtualBox happily on top of Linux. There's also VMware which isn't free or gratis and other solutions. 2. Any recommendations for something that is fully compatible with Linux, in case I get an alternative and can get rid of the windows part? I bought this Acer laptop: http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/#computers-specs Acer Aspire 5738DZG and it works perfectly fine with Mandriva Linux 2010.1 (most everything I've tried there works, with a few minor glitches), though it's a relatively old model - Dual Core. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Check out my web site - www.words2u.net ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Laptop
2010/9/3 Steve G. word...@gmail.com: Second, some bank accounts require it to fully function. Which bank accounts are those? -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: laptop
On 30/12/06, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:20 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: For example, you can look how their X60 looks: just like T30, X31, T40 etc, only a bit slimmer, plus the damn wiindows keys I'm using a T43, which sadly lacks the windows and menu keys - they're ton useful, I always need more shift states, and when I don't have an external keyboard I have to make do with only 3 :-( apt-get install tpb ... Works for me. The only features that don't work for me are: Finger print reader - there is experimental driver for linux : http://sourceforge.net/projects/thinkfinger Modem - never had to use it but according to thinkwiki there are some drivers for linux. A great resource for T43 and other Thinkpads: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T43 Shlomil = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 15:50 +0200, Shlomi Loubaton wrote: On 30/12/06, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:20 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: For example, you can look how their X60 looks: just like T30, X31, T40 etc, only a bit slimmer, plus the damn wiindows keys I'm using a T43, which sadly lacks the windows and menu keys - they're ton useful, I always need more shift states, and when I don't have an external keyboard I have to make do with only 3 :-( apt-get install tpb Works for me. I'm using tpb, how is that supposed to help me use win keys, for which I have no hardware ? -- Oded ::.. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
Oh, sorry. For some reason I thought you were referring to the special IBM keys (Fn, access IBM etc) Shlomi. On 01/01/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 15:50 +0200, Shlomi Loubaton wrote: On 30/12/06, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:20 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: For example, you can look how their X60 looks: just like T30, X31, T40 etc, only a bit slimmer, plus the damn wiindows keys I'm using a T43, which sadly lacks the windows and menu keys - they're ton useful, I always need more shift states, and when I don't have an external keyboard I have to make do with only 3 :-( apt-get install tpb Works for me. I'm using tpb, how is that supposed to help me use win keys, for which I have no hardware ? -- Oded ::.. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
ביום שישי 29 דצמבר 2006, 13:43, נכתב על ידי Maxim Veksler: - IBM (note: Not the new lenovo junk!) I assume you are talking about the Lenovo 3000 series, which Hetz described in this thread. Do you have anything more to say about this laptio (besides what Hetz told, in which partly disagree). I agree with Hetz, crappy machine, good service (I prefer that then the other way). -- diego, kde-il translation team - http://il.kde.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 08:51 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: On 29/12/06, Maxim Veksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - IBM (note: Not the new lenovo junk!) Do others agree that Lenovo != IBM? I'm not a laptops expert but was considering to look at some Lenovo stuff based on the great Linux support by IBM laptops. The Thinkpad series still works as it were before - I don't know for how long, but I hope that Lenovo won't kill a winning horse. The Lenovo 3000 series also works rather well, but people are having issues with sound supports (ICH8 - external speakers aren't turned off when headphones are plugged in), screen resolutions (i945 - can't enable native 1280x900 resolution in X, always goes back to 1024x768) and camera (doesn't work at all, but its still better then the Thinkpad that doesn't have a camera). -- Oded ::.. Breaking Windows isn't just for kids anymore... = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
Hi, Do others agree that Lenovo != IBM? The team that was designing and developing the thinkpad series has been sold to Lenovo. Lenovo was already manufacturing the Thinkpad for IBM before Lenovo bought IBM Thinkpad Division. The 3000 V100 series is their move away from the R series (Value) to something which doesn't resemble the thinkpad line. You can see that in term of design it looks totally different from the Thinkpad models. Lenovo had decided that the 3000 series would be for more private/home users while the Thinkpad line (T, X) will be for corporate users and that the corporate models will have the IBM logo and the same design remains. For example, you can look how their X60 looks: just like T30, X31, T40 etc, only a bit slimmer, plus the damn wiindows keys, they modified the power connector (no more backward compatibility), but a simple look from a distant, and you know it's Thinkpad. In terms of service, nothing has been changed. IBM Israel repairs their machines, and IBM Service in Israel is WAY WAY better then anything else is period! I would definatly not recommend going with HP, as their service simply sucks big time (unless it's their precioud servers, which is served by a totally different unit). I'm not a laptops expert but was considering to look at some Lenovo stuff based on the great Linux support by IBM laptops. I would recommend (depends on your budget) to go with Thinkpad R50 or R60 series (or if you can afford youself - the T50 or T60 series or X60). You can save few thousand shekels with the competitors, but you WILL pay those shekels back when you'll need to either upgrade or fix this notebook. Been there over 4 times already. Thanks, Hetz -- Visit my blog (hebrew) for things that (sometimes) matter: http://wp.dad-answers.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
I have an HP NC8000 Notebook that works flawlessly with linux. It uses an atheros based wifi card that requires the free madwifi module. Ubuntu has it preinstalled, debian has a source package (madwifi-source) you can download and build with the debian package tools. Everything else works out of the box. The only thing I haven't tried to use yet is the 56K modem, but I don't need it anyway So +1 for HP from me :) Alex On 12/30/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lenovo != IBM in the sense that IBM is no longer in control. The factory is the same (in theory). In practice, things may have changed (not necessarily to the worse, quality control wise): http://www.namedevelopment.com/articles/NYTimesLenovoNmeChng120404.html http://technology.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,1374143,00.html http://uk.gizmodo.com/2006/05/19/ Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- | | Alex Alexander | Flash PHP Developer | GlobalStar Interactive Intelligence | visit us @ www.globalstar.gr \
Re: laptop
Hi Oded, The Lenovo 3000 series also works rather well, but people are having issues with sound supports (ICH8 - external speakers aren't turned off when headphones are plugged in), screen resolutions (i945 - can't enable native 1280x900 resolution in X, always goes back to 1024x768) and camera (doesn't work at all, but its still better then the Thinkpad that doesn't have a camera). The Thinkpad series is aimed to the corporate usage, starting from the low end (R), goes to mainstream workers (T) and all the way to the top (X). The features that the Thinkpad has are more or less dictated by the customers and it seems Lenovo goes really slow here when it comes to change the Thinkpad series. You can see for example the lack of firewire in the thinkpad, as well as the weird issue that even a brand new thinkpad (T,X) (well, at least up to T50) has ... a parallel port. Why? corporates wanted it.. Firewire, integrated cam, weird resolutions are nice things to have for the private consumer, not for the corporate suits, so they appear in the 3000 series. Thanks, Hetz -- Visit my blog (hebrew) for things that (sometimes) matter: http://wp.dad-answers.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:20 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: For example, you can look how their X60 looks: just like T30, X31, T40 etc, only a bit slimmer, plus the damn wiindows keys I'm using a T43, which sadly lacks the windows and menu keys - they're ton useful, I always need more shift states, and when I don't have an external keyboard I have to make do with only 3 :-( I would recommend (depends on your budget) to go with Thinkpad R50 or R60 series (or if you can afford youself - the T50 or T60 series or X60). You can save few thousand shekels with the competitors, but you WILL pay those shekels back when you'll need to either upgrade or fix this notebook. Been there over 4 times already. R50 sells for as low as 4000 NIS, which is a great price for a laptop no matter how you look at it. -- Oded ::.. The Tao doesn't take sides; it gives birth to both wins and losses. The Guru doesn't take sides; she welcomes both hackers and lusers. The Tao is like a stack: the data changes but not the structure. the more you use it, the deeper it becomes; the more you talk of it, the less you understand. Hold on to the root. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: laptop
Imho HP have a good money/value ratio. Bug has some of them. Try here: http://www.bug.co.il/productpage.asp?c=320t=20 You should get as much warranty as possible (without paying extra). HP also runs Linux w/o problems usually. Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
On 12/29/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imho HP have a good money/value ratio. Bug has some of them. Try here: http://www.bug.co.il/productpage.asp?c=320t=20 You should get as much warranty as possible (without paying extra). HP also runs Linux w/o problems usually. Peter I OTOH, have good experience with: - IBM (note: Not the new lenovo junk!) - DELL - and LG. Most of the IBM, DELL laptops I came across were friendly to Linux 2.6.x. LG T1 (the one I'm using now) needs some additional .ko to get 2.6.18 work with its Agere ET-131x NIC, other then that it seems to be L-friendly as well.) The only brand I have bad experience is HP, because of their service and warranty terms here in IL, and also because of the quality of the product (*this by the way does not come to contradict the excellent server hardware HP manufacture). HTH, Maxim. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, Maxim Veksler Free as in Freedom - Do u GNU ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Maxim Veksler wrote: I OTOH, have good experience with: - IBM (note: Not the new lenovo junk!) - DELL - and LG. Most of the IBM, DELL laptops I came across were friendly to Linux 2.6.x. LG T1 (the one I'm using now) needs some additional .ko to get 2.6.18 work with its Agere ET-131x NIC, other then that it seems to be L-friendly as well.) The only brand I have bad experience is HP, because of their service and warranty terms here in IL, and also because of the quality of the product (*this by the way does not come to contradict the excellent server hardware HP manufacture). Did you get the WiFi connections going on these laptops ? Modem ? Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have good experience with IBM and DELL. I have had success connecting both of them with Wifi. Most of them come with Intel WP2100 or WP2200 which have a free driver but non-free firmware. You compile the driver, download the firmware (free as in free beer) to /usr/lib/firmware/hotplug then when you modprobe the driver it will automaticly loads the firmware. -- Ori Idan On 12/29/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Maxim Veksler wrote: I OTOH, have good experience with: - IBM (note: Not the new lenovo junk!) - DELL - and LG. Most of the IBM, DELL laptops I came across were friendly to Linux 2.6.x . LG T1 (the one I'm using now) needs some additional .ko to get 2.6.18 work with its Agere ET-131x NIC, other then that it seems to be L-friendly as well.) The only brand I have bad experience is HP, because of their service and warranty terms here in IL, and also because of the quality of the product (*this by the way does not come to contradict the excellent server hardware HP manufacture). Did you get the WiFi connections going on these laptops ? Modem ? Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
ok. List question: WHY do messages to linux-il get CCd to all the posters ?! Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
On 29/12/06, Maxim Veksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - IBM (note: Not the new lenovo junk!) Do others agree that Lenovo != IBM? I'm not a laptops expert but was considering to look at some Lenovo stuff based on the great Linux support by IBM laptops. Thanks, --Amos
Re: laptop
On 12/29/06, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/12/06, Maxim Veksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - IBM (note: Not the new lenovo junk!) Do others agree that Lenovo != IBM? I'm not a laptops expert but was considering to look at some Lenovo stuff based on the great Linux support by IBM laptops. Thanks, --Amos i've only had a lenovo 3000 v100 for about a month (with linux running everything except the camera and the fingerprint reader), but it would seem that the lenovo are the light model. didn't see any of the new thinkpads, but i hope that series maintains it's quality. so far i'm pretty happy with my lenovo. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
Lenovo != IBM in the sense that IBM is no longer in control. The factory is the same (in theory). In practice, things may have changed (not necessarily to the worse, quality control wise): http://www.namedevelopment.com/articles/NYTimesLenovoNmeChng120404.html http://technology.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,1374143,00.html http://uk.gizmodo.com/2006/05/19/ Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop Fujitsu S7020 external display quivers
Quoting David Harel, from the post of Sat, 17 Jun: Greetings, My machine has Intel 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03). I installed xf86-video-i810-1.6.0 driver and I followed the recommendations at: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Gentoo_on_Fujitsu-Siemens_S7020#X_Configuration When I switch to external monitor only display is fine but when I have both lcd screen and external screen active the external display quivers. I tried on different resolutions and different screens and lcd projectors. All the same. the LCD's refresh is usually set at 60Hz, and your card is possible a cheap-o that can't handle two screens at different refresh rates. other than forcing a higher refresh like 75Hz and see if the LCD handles it, I'm afraid you may have to accept the situation as is. -- Your hetero life mate Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop screen is blanking out
Low tech solution: did you try to fiddle with the switch in the lid that switches the screen on and off when opening and closing the lid? works for me when apm messes up a little, both under X and in console. Arie Folger = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop screen is blanking out
In addition * I've tried reinstalling the 2.2 kernel without apm support and the problem (the screen blanking after 5 minutes and then keyboard/mouse not working after) still occurs Also, made a type with my setterm statements. What I tried was: setterm -powersave off setterm -blank 0 setterm -powerdown 0 Nathan Fain wrote: Short desc.: Screen blanks out and then keyboard and mouse will not work. I have a laptop whose screen will blank out after five minutes of no movement of the mouse or keyboard. When I move the mouse or press a key the screen comes back but the keyboard and mouse will not work (though processes continue to work.) This happens in the console (X is not running on the machine). I'd appreciate any suggestions or inclusion of other lists I could query. I've tried the following in troubleshooting and nothing has helped so far: * Checked this w/apmd (even though it is an ACPI machine) up and with it down. I've also tried it with ACPI support and the acpi management daemons for 2.4.x. * There are no options in the Compaq n610c bios and to turn this off no bios updates * and this feature, in fact, doesn't *appear* to be controlled by the BIOS as it does not happen in the windows installation on the machine. I've also tried setterm -powerboot, setterm -powersave setterm -powerdown setterm -blank Laptop: Compaq Evo N610c w/2.2.18 and 2.4.19 kernels -- Nathan Fain System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. R.M.P.E House, 10 Hartum st. Har Hozvim, P.O.Box 45157 Jerusalem 91450 Telephone: + 972-2-541-7356 Fax: + 972-2-541-7300 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Laptop troubles
You didnt tell what monitor you've configured. try : Section "Monitor" Identifier"LCD Panel 1024x768" (or "LCD Panel 800x600") VendorName "UnKnown" ModelName "Unknown" why not to use XF86Setup ? laptop tips: do : 'man -k pcmcia' - lots of commands, do man and read. for further questions dont hesitate to contact private. -Original Message- From: mulix [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: ? ?? 26 2000 21:57 To: Linux-Il Mailing List Subject: Laptop troubles Hi Everyone, I have some laptop problems here, and would very much appreciate any help. I have a new Chicony laptop. I've managed to install RedHat 6.0, however X refuses to start. I downloaded the latest X, which supposedly supports the graphics card (a Silicon Motion LynxEM SMI 711) but couldn't get it to work. I tried both using the new frame buffer device and "standard" x, but neither seem to work. What would really make my day is the /etc/XF86Config from someone with this (or similar) laptop model. Otherwise, any other pointers on running linux on laptop will be appreciated, especially since I haven't messed yet with neither pcmcia (for the network and modem cards) nor apm. TIA! -- mulix. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux/reboot.h: #define LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC1 0xfee1dead = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laptop troubles
Well, let me try to help here (although I don't have Chicony Laptop) Grab the latest X server (SVGA) and XConfigurator from the PIGLET (Redhat 6.2 beta) - this should solve your problem. Oh, in Redhat XF86Config sits on /etc/X11/ - not /etc/ Hetz mulix wrote: Hi Everyone, I have some laptop problems here, and would very much appreciate any help. I have a new Chicony laptop. I've managed to install RedHat 6.0, however X refuses to start. I downloaded the latest X, which supposedly supports the graphics card (a Silicon Motion LynxEM SMI 711) but couldn't get it to work. I tried both using the new frame buffer device and "standard" x, but neither seem to work. What would really make my day is the /etc/XF86Config from someone with this (or similar) laptop model. Otherwise, any other pointers on running linux on laptop will be appreciated, especially since I haven't messed yet with neither pcmcia (for the network and modem cards) nor apm. TIA! -- mulix. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux/reboot.h: #define LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC1 0xfee1dead = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hetz Ben Hamo - Sys. Admin. - Intercomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Redmond, you have a problem.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
