Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 04:17:04PM +0300, Michael Ben-Nes wrote: If you have Hardware virtualization like Intel vt-x you can use Xen. And the performance overhead is from 0.3% to 5% ( it will kick vmware butt ) These numbers are for para-virtualized guests,

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 12:04:37PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: There are two parts to this equation (para vs. fully virtualized host). One is the use of some impossible to easily virtualize CPU commands on normal pentium CPUs. The two workarounds are: 1. Tell the virtualized machine not to

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-09 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
On Sunday 02 July 2006 18:18, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Aharon Schkolnik wrote: I have started a new job and find that I will have to use some applications which will run only under Windows (XP). I would like to run Linux on my desktop with a virtual XP machine running under it. In the

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-08 Thread Amit Aronovitch
One option that was not mentioned here, which might be easier under some circumstances, is using rdesktop to connect to some windows machine you have a login on. The company might have a dedicated server for such use, or you might have a co-worker running windows 2003 server that wouldn't mind

Re: use the interview (was: Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux)

2006-07-05 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
password ;) --guy On Sun, 2 Jul 2006, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 16:57:11 +0200 From: Aharon Schkolnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Recommendations for XP under Linux Greetings. I have started a new job and find that I will have

Re: use the interview (was: Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux)

2006-07-05 Thread guy keren
On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: On 7/3/06, guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not that it will help you this time, but for next time: when i interview in companies and we get to the terms of employment stage, i clearly state that i require having a linux desktop. in my

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-04 Thread Michael Ben-Nes
Hmmm If you have Hardware virtualization like Intel vt-x you can use Xen. And the performance overhead is from 0.3% to 5% ( it will kick vmware butt ) http://www.xensource.com/products/xen/index.html Aharon Schkolnik wrote: Greetings. I have started a new job and find that I will have

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-04 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 04:17:04PM +0300, Michael Ben-Nes wrote: If you have Hardware virtualization like Intel vt-x you can use Xen. And the performance overhead is from 0.3% to 5% ( it will kick vmware butt ) These numbers are for para-virtualized guests, not fully virtualized guests (and

use the interview (was: Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux)

2006-07-03 Thread guy keren
Subject: Recommendations for XP under Linux Greetings. I have started a new job and find that I will have to use some applications which will run only under Windows (XP).I would like to run Linux on my desktop with a virtual XP machine running under it. In the (relatively distant) past I have

Re: use the interview (was: Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux)

2006-07-03 Thread Andre Bar'yudin
Jul 2006 16:57:11 +0200 From: Aharon Schkolnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Recommendations for XP under Linux Greetings. I have started a new job and find that I will have to use some applications which will run only under Windows (XP).I would like to run Linux

Re: use the interview (was: Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux)

2006-07-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 09:59:13AM +0100, Andre Bar'yudin wrote: In big companies it is much more complicated. Not necessarily - it all depends on the company. I work for one of the biggest, and all you need to do to get a Linux desktop is ask for it. It's supported and in some departments,

Re: use the interview (was: Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux)

2006-07-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 11:03:27AM +0300, guy keren wrote: note: i only worked in small companies, which tend to be flexible about these issues. they say for a lousy 3000 shmeckels i don't intend to reject a work candidate that i want to employ. note that this is simply part of the standard

Re: use the interview (was: Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux)

2006-07-03 Thread Andre Bar'yudin
Are we talking 10,000+ employees? In companies of such size the choise of almost everything on person's desktop (as in wooden desk) is dictated by centralized policies. So when you want to get something unusual, it is quite hard. I could have told you all sorts of horror stories about getting

Re: use the interview (was: Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux)

2006-07-03 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 03 July 2006 14:12, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 09:59:13AM +0100, Andre Bar'yudin wrote: In big companies it is much more complicated. Not necessarily - it all depends on the company. I work for one of the biggest, and all you need to do to get a Linux desktop is

Re: use the interview (was: Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux)

2006-07-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 12:36:09PM +0100, Andre Bar'yudin wrote: Are we talking 10,000+ employees? 330,000 or so. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the

Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-02 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
Greetings. I have started a new job and find that I will have to use some applications which will run only under Windows (XP). I would like to run Linux on my desktop with a virtual XP machine running under it. In the (relatively distant) past I have use VMware for this. At the time, I convinced

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-02 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Aharon Schkolnik wrote: I have started a new job and find that I will have to use some applications which will run only under Windows (XP). I would like to run Linux on my desktop with a virtual XP machine running under it. In the (relatively distant) past I have use VMware for this. At the

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-02 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
There are 3 options: 1. You can use VMWare server which is free and you can use it to create your machine and either use the VMWare server with your image or with VMWare player. Just make sure to insall VMWare tools on your guest OS. 2. Search on the net vmx geneator, and you'll find some web

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-02 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Use qemu (http://www.qemu.org/) or change jobs ;-) Unless qemu changed the fundamental way it is built since last I checked it, I don't think it is the right solution for Aharon. Last time I looked at it, It was SLOW. VERY slow. Gilad Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-02 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Use qemu (http://www.qemu.org/) or change jobs ;-) Unless qemu changed the fundamental way it is built since last I checked it, I don't think it is the right solution for Aharon. Last time I looked at it, It was SLOW. VERY slow. Not

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-02 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: 3. Use QEMU to install the guest OS and then use VMWare player to use your guest OS. You'll still need the guest tools ISO though.. Interesting question, because I know you (Hetz) experimented with qemu a lot - what are the reasons to not just continue to use qemu

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-02 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Well, QEMU as it stands now is still slower compared to VMWare, even with the latest kqemu kernel module, and I assumed Aharon wanted the fastest solution. Quite a lot of things are changing internally at this time in QEMU, both in other platform emulation, GUI, and other changes which takes

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-02 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Aharon Schkolnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I understand that VMware has a free player and that it is possible to hack it into installing XP. Is this as big a pain as it looks ? Has anyone done it ? Download the player (or the server formerly known as GSX), install Windows, enjoy. There is no

Re: Recommendations for XP under Linux

2006-07-02 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Well, if you would test the latest KQEMU kernel module, you might be surprised at the speed hike it got. It's not fast as VMWare, but it's getting very close. The speed difference now is at around ~30% Thanks, Hetz On 7/2/06, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: