Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Mark Veltzer wrote: I understood that Ogg is also video ready. It's supposed to be a sort of Meta-Format for binary streamed media so if you wanted to put video in Ogg you could. I also undestood that the video enhancements are already in the making. Anybody who knows

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Oron Peled wrote: On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:53:29 +0200 Mark Veltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 07 October 2002 19:23, you wrote: MPEG-2 --- maybe RealNetwork new open source technology??? who knows? I understood that Ogg is also video ready. It's

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-07 Thread voguemaster
07/10/02 01:31:04, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: áéåí øàùåï, 6 áàå÷èåáø 2002, 19:38, Dvir Volk ëúá: I highly doubt it's legal. I've looked in fraunhofer's site, which refered me to an mp3 licensing site, that said: snip From that QA it seems to me that developers are required to get a

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-07 Thread Oron Peled
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 01:31:04 +0200 Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is unlike the GIF issue where Unisys wants you to buy a license if your GIFs were not created by a licensed software - even if the files were not created by you. Licensing terms may be modified at a moments notice.

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-07 Thread Mark Veltzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 07 October 2002 19:23, you wrote: MPEG-2 --- maybe RealNetwork new open source technology??? who knows? I understood that Ogg is also video ready. It's supposed to be a sort of Meta-Format for binary streamed media so if you

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-07 Thread Oron Peled
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:53:29 +0200 Mark Veltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 07 October 2002 19:23, you wrote: MPEG-2 --- maybe RealNetwork new open source technology??? who knows? I understood that Ogg is also video ready. It's supposed to be a sort of Meta-Format for binary

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-06 Thread voguemaster
04/10/02 13:39:57, Mark Veltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is so strange ? MP3 is a COPYRIGHTED format. A german research institution holds the copy right and has started to sue companies who distribute mp3 players without paying them royalties (since they can't sue the users themselves

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-06 Thread voguemaster
04/10/02 15:58:09, Amir Tal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 04 October 2002 11:28 am, voguemaster wrote: Honestly I don't quite get it. How can they break such a behaviour or supported feature of the system ?? RH at previous versions could play mp3 easily, now you can't use XMMS

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-06 Thread voguemaster
04/10/02 14:11:16, Oleg Kobets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, you can easily d/l the missing rpm from xmms website. Oleg. And is THAT legal ?? Those libraries use a technology which is patented, how is that allowed ??? Eli There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we

RE: xmms rh8

2002-10-06 Thread Tzahi Fadida
]]On Behalf Of voguemaster Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 5:48 PM To: Linux-IL Subject: Re: xmms rh8 04/10/02 14:11:16, Oleg Kobets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, you can easily d/l the missing rpm from xmms website. Oleg. And is THAT legal ?? Those libraries use a technology which

RE: xmms rh8

2002-10-06 Thread Dvir Volk
xmms.org were registered. http://mp3licensing.com/licensees/index.asp -Original Message- From: voguemaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 5:48 PM To: Linux-IL Subject: Re: xmms rh8 04/10/02 14:11:16, Oleg Kobets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, you can

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-06 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Friday 04 October 2002 19:10, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2002, voguemaster wrote about Re: xmms rh8: Honestly I don't quite get it. How can they break such a behaviour or supported feature of the system ?? RH at previous versions could play mp3 easily, now you can't use XMMS

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-06 Thread Oded Arbel
áéåí øàùåï, 6 áàå÷èåáø 2002, 19:38, Dvir Volk ëúá: I highly doubt it's legal. I've looked in fraunhofer's site, which refered me to an mp3 licensing site, that said: snip From that QA it seems to me that developers are required to get a license, but not users - you are expected to use a

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-05 Thread Oron Peled
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:39:57 +0300 Mark Veltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 04 October 2002 14:28, you wrote: Honestly I don't quite get it. How can they break such a behaviour or supported feature of the system ?? Eli What is so strange ? MP3 is a COPYRIGHTED format. A german

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread voguemaster
Honestly I don't quite get it. How can they break such a behaviour or supported feature of the system ?? RH at previous versions could play mp3 easily, now you can't use XMMS ?? This makes me think twice about this release.. Eli 04/10/02 04:40:42, Amir Sela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread Amir Tal
On Friday 04 October 2002 11:28 am, voguemaster wrote: Honestly I don't quite get it. How can they break such a behaviour or supported feature of the system ?? RH at previous versions could play mp3 easily, now you can't use XMMS ?? This makes me think twice about this release..

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread Oleg Kobets
who uses mp3 technology to pay them per product sold. Besides, you can easily d/l the missing rpm from xmms website. Oleg. - Original Message - From: voguemaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux-IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:28 PM Subject: Re: xmms rh8 Honestly I

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Amir Tal wrote: On Friday 04 October 2002 11:28 am, voguemaster wrote: Honestly I don't quite get it. How can they break such a behaviour or supported feature of the system ?? RH at previous versions could play mp3 easily, now you can't use XMMS ?? This

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread Robert Wallner
On Friday 04 October 2002 14:13, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: General discomfort of the fact that mp3 is a problematic by a patents, and that the patent holder can change the license terms at any desirable moment? Probably. Patented technologies are doomed to dissapear. As we all switched to png and

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
Patented technologies are doomed to dissapear. Indeed, but only because every patent has its expiration date... = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
voguemaster wrote: Honestly I don't quite get it. How can they break such a behaviour or supported feature of the system ?? RH at previous versions could play mp3 easily, now you can't use XMMS ?? This makes me think twice about this release.. RedHat already had to pull off all

RE: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread Tzahi Fadida
* - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ilya Konstantinov Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:20 PM Cc: Linux-IL Subject: Re: xmms rh8 voguemaster wrote: Honestly I

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread frodo
AT they did it because of piracy issues. you can always get the AT plugin's and add them manually. Just a second. Is it real RH statement that mp3 format equals piracy (which means, unofrtunately, that RH management has completely lost his mind) or it is what you personally think? -- [EMAIL

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread Amir Tal
On Friday 04 October 2002 02:15 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AT they did it because of piracy issues. you can always get the AT plugin's and add them manually. Just a second. Is it real RH statement that mp3 format equals piracy (which means, unofrtunately, that RH management has completely

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread Amir Tal
at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ilya Konstantinov Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:20 PM Cc: Linux-IL Subject: Re: xmms rh8 voguemaster wrote: Honestly I don't quite get

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-04 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002, voguemaster wrote about Re: xmms rh8: Honestly I don't quite get it. How can they break such a behaviour or supported feature of the system ?? RH at previous versions could play mp3 easily, now you can't use XMMS ?? This makes me think twice about this release

xmms rh8

2002-10-03 Thread Meir Michanie
Hi list: I installed rh8 and xmms was unable to play mp3, running rpm -ql xmms I saw that libmpeg123.so and libmpeg123.la was missing from the packet. So I copied from another machine running rh7.3 Isn't it weird? -- QOTD: I tried buying a goat instead of a lawn tractor; had to return

Re: xmms rh8

2002-10-03 Thread Amir Sela
On Thursday 03 October 2002 23:56, Meir Michanie wrote: Hi list: I installed rh8 and xmms was unable to play mp3, running rpm -ql xmms I saw that libmpeg123.so and libmpeg123.la was missing from the packet. So I copied from another machine running rh7.3 Isn't it weird? From