Assistance in understanding this...?

2001-02-16 Thread Tracy Camp
I'm developing a driver that performs some 'formatting' of sorts on a scsi block device as part of the initialization process. This involves writting a long series of non-contiguous blocks to a disk device - something akin to: for(i =0; i NUM_BLOCKS; i++) { bh = getblk(i *

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread David D.W. Downey
ROTFL, man this guy is funny. On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: At 02:48 PM 02/16/2001, Jesse Pollard wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Andrew Scott wrote: On 15 Feb 2001, at 9:49, fsnchzjr wrote: Watch Microsoft's Jim Allchin go Linux-bashing!!! Nice little article on how we're all

Re: Linux stifles innovation... [way O.T.]

2001-02-16 Thread John Cavan
Dennis wrote: objective, arent we? You might ask yourself the same question... For example, if there were six different companies that marketed ethernet drivers for the eepro100, you'd have a choice of which one to buy..perhaps with different "features" that were of value to you. Instead,

Re: PROBLEM: virtual console corruption (2.4.1/p4/radeon/XFree86

2001-02-16 Thread James Simmons
I believe you, although... why doesn't it happen with 2.2.17? vconsole buffers in a different place in memory, I suppose? Vgacon has pretty much not changed. As for going from graphics mode and back it is quite complex and the X server handles all of it. - To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: The biggest thing that the linux community does to stifle innovation is to bash commercial vendors trying to make a profit by whining endlessly about "sourceless" distributions and recommending "open-source" solutions even when they are wholly inferior. You're

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Hristo Doichev
On the surface you seem to make some good points. In reality ... ?? Money doesn't buy the ability to innovate! OSS doesn't, magically, enhance the ability to innovate, aither! No one can predict where and why an innovation occurs. The only thing that OSS does to MS is to prohibit them for

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Matt D. Robinson
The day the Linux kernel splinters into multiple, distinct efforts is the day I'll believe the kernel is fully into progress over "preference". Right now, Alan accepts what he thinks should go into stable kernels, and Linus accepts what he thinks should go into future kernels. I'm not saying

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Matt D. Robinson wrote: The day the Linux kernel splinters into multiple, distinct efforts is the day I'll believe the kernel is fully into progress over "preference". Right now, Alan accepts what he thinks should go into stable kernels, and Linus accepts what he thinks

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Carlos Fernandez Sanz
I did some research on the patent database and found nothing regarding such a patent. There's patent on word processors (not the concept but related to) and uses tab on the description...and that patent is from 1980. - Original Message - From: "James Sutherland" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

2.4 TCP(?) timeouts

2001-02-16 Thread Simon Kirby
Hello, Today we put 2.4.1 on our mail server after having see it perform well on some other boxes. It seems now we are receiving a few calls every hour from customers reporting that the server tends to hang and eventually time out on them when downloading mail. All customers that have reported

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread rjd
Dennis wrote: ... objective, arent we? Nope. Are you claiming to be? For example, if there were six different companies that marketed ethernet drivers for the eepro100, you'd have a choice of which one to buy..perhaps ... Rant deleted I had a problem with eepro100. It was fixed same night

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Matt D. Robinson
"Mike A. Harris" wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Matt D. Robinson wrote: The day the Linux kernel splinters into multiple, distinct efforts is the day I'll believe the kernel is fully into progress over "preference". Right now, Alan accepts what he thinks should go into stable kernels, and

Multiport NICs and ether channel?

2001-02-16 Thread Willis L. Sarka
Greetings, Just a general question or two.. Please point me to a URL or tell me where to RTFM, or answer back ;-). What is the status/condition of using muliport NICs and bonding them together to form a larger pipe (i.e. a quad channel ethernet card for an Intel box, bonding all four

Re: CONFIG_MODVERSIONS and same named files

2001-02-16 Thread Keith Owens
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:19:28 -0700, Tom Rini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. The modversions code has a slight problem with files of the same name, but in different directories. eg: drivers/a/foo.c exports FOO, and drivers/b/foo.c exports BAR, include/linux/modules/foo.ver will only have the

RE: 2.4.1-ac14 won't boot

2001-02-16 Thread Laramie Leavitt
2.4.1-ac8 worked great, 2.4.1-ac13 and ac14 oops in IDE initialisation. All 3 have ide.2.4.1-p8.all.01172001.patch applied too. I'll try it without the ide patch today. -Thomas ---kernel messages--- Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz

Linux 2.4.1ac17

2001-02-16 Thread Alan Cox
Seems everyone has been busy innovating again, so here is ac17. This merges 2.4.2pre4 which includes more elevator changes so please treat ac17 with caution. ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4/ 2.4.1-ac17 o Fix pegasus for bigendian

Re: Multiport NICs and ether channel?

2001-02-16 Thread Christopher E. Brown
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Willis L. Sarka wrote: Greetings, Just a general question or two.. Please point me to a URL or tell me where to RTFM, or answer back ;-). What is the status/condition of using muliport NICs and bonding them together to form a larger pipe (i.e. a quad channel

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Werner Almesberger
Matt D. Robinson wrote: My feeling is we should splinter the kernel development for different purposes (enterprise, UP, security, etc.). I'm sure it isn't a popular view, but I feel it would allow faster progression of kernel functionality and features in the long run. "enterprise" XOR

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Dan Hollis
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Carlos Fernandez Sanz wrote: I did some research on the patent database and found nothing regarding such a patent. There's patent on word processors (not the concept but related to) and uses tab on the description...and that patent is from 1980. You know XOR is patented

kernel 2.4.0/1/1-ac15 and ncr53c810a

2001-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Teichmann
Hello, I have problems using my scanner (HP C6270A connected to ncr53c810a) with xsane. I always get the error message: error during read: Error during device I/O Feb 15 23:57:27 localhost kernel: Attached scsi generic sg2 at scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0, type 3 Feb 15 23:57:27 localhost

IBM-DTLA-307045 very slow under 2.2.x

2001-02-16 Thread Neil Booth
I have a SOYO "SY-5EMA+ Super 7" motherboard, with a K6-2 processor. The 45 Gig IBM drive hangs the BIOS if I let it autodetect it, so I turn off autodetection for IDE2 primary where it sits. This is probably not relevant. My problem is that "hdparm -tT dev/hdc" gives atrocious performance:-

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread LA Walsh
"David D.W. Downey" wrote: Seriously though folks, look at who's doing this! They've already tried once to sue 'Linux', were told they couldn't because Linux is a non-entity (or at least one that they can not effectively sue due to the classification Linux holds), ... --- Not

Re: kernel 2.4.0/1/1-ac15 and ncr53c810a

2001-02-16 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 02.17 Wolfgang Teichmann wrote: Hello, I have problems using my scanner (HP C6270A connected to ncr53c810a) with xsane. I always get the error message: error during read: Error during device I/O Feb 15 23:57:27 localhost kernel: Attached scsi generic sg2 at scsi0, channel 0,

gcc-2.96 and kernel

2001-02-16 Thread J . A . Magallon
Hi, (I suppose people track this info, but a remark never hurts...) Just updated Mandrake gcc to gcc-2.96-0.37mdk. Interesting point: * Thu Feb 15 2001 David BAUDENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.96-0.37mdk - Fix build on PPC :) * Thu Feb 15 2001 Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.96-0.36mdk - Break

too long mac address for --mac-source netfilter option

2001-02-16 Thread Jack Bowling
I am trying to use the --mac-source option in the netfilter code to better refine access to my linux box. However, I have run up against something. The router through which my private subnet work box passes sends a 14-group "invalid" mac address, presumably as an attempt to conceal the real

Re: kernel 2.4.0/1/1-ac15 and ncr53c810a

2001-02-16 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello Wolfgang J.A. , On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, J . A . Magallon wrote: On 02.17 Wolfgang Teichmann wrote: Hello, I have problems using my scanner (HP C6270A connected to ncr53c810a) with xsane. I always get the error message: error during read: Error during device I/O Feb 15

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Dan Hollis
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Michael H. Warfield wrote: You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR). But wasn't that Xerox that had that? US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc. Yeah, the same ones that screwed us over with the compression patent that shot .gif images

PCI quirks in kernel for ppc in 2.2

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Fedyk
Does this help for ppc? The help talks about BIOS which I know is only on x86. Does this code include anything that helps a non x86 comp? Mike - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

Re: too long mac address for --mac-source netfilter option

2001-02-16 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello Jack All , Might this be an atm interface ? If it is not then am I to assume that an atm interface with its erroneous mac-address is going to have the same difficulties . That is of course as soon as the atm interface actually put a valid

re: XOR [ was: Linux stifles innovation... ]

2001-02-16 Thread David Relson
At 08:52 PM 2/16/01, you wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Michael H. Warfield wrote: You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR). But wasn't that Xerox that had that? US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc. The patent was for using the technique of using XOR

re: XOR [ was: Linux stifles innovation... ]

2001-02-16 Thread Dan Hollis
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, David Relson wrote: At 08:52 PM 2/16/01, you wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Michael H. Warfield wrote: You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR). But wasn't that Xerox that had that? US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc. The patent

Re: 2.4 TCP(?) timeouts

2001-02-16 Thread Simon Kirby
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 07:08:05PM -0500, Simon Kirby wrote: Hello, Today we put 2.4.1 on our mail server after having see it perform well on some other boxes. It seems now we are receiving a few calls every hour from customers reporting that the server tends to hang and eventually time

SO_SNDTIMEO: 2.4 kernel bugs

2001-02-16 Thread Chris Evans
Hi, I was glad to see Linux gain SO_SNDTIMEO in kernel 2.4. It is a very use feature which can avoid complexity and pain in userspace programs. Unfortunately, it seems to be very buggy. Here are two buggy scenarios. 1) Create a socketpair(), PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM. Set a 5 second SO_SNDTIMEO on

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Vesselin Atanasov
Hahahaha. Dennis, the only linux network drivers that I have had serious problems with were yours. They caused kernel panic on 2.0.30+ every 6 hours. Of course I did not have the source to fix them. In comparision eepro100 works rock solid on all of my machines that use it. Will I use some

2.4.1-ac16 - Loopback device seems broken

2001-02-16 Thread Andr=E9
I don't know if this is broken in 2.4.1-ac17 and 2.4.2-pre4, but, what happens when mounting a filesystem using the loopback device is that the process 'dies' in some way and there's no way I can kill it. This is what I did: mount /test-ext2-image.img /mnt/testimage -o loop,rw -t ext2 And after

[PROBLEM]: grep hanging with ReiserFS

2001-02-16 Thread Shawn Starr
grep -r "216.234.235.46" * ...waiting... ./debugps | more USER PID COMMAND WCHAN root 1 init do_select root 7 [kreiserfsd] - . root 28438 grep -r 216.234. pipe_wait Im using grep in /etc and its just waiting it should have

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Pontillo
For example, if there were six different companies that marketed ethernet drivers for the eepro100, you'd have a choice of which one to buy..perhaps with different "features" that were of value to you. Instead, you have crappy GPL code that locks up under load, and its not worth spending

Re: [PROBLEM]: grep hanging with ReiserFS

2001-02-16 Thread Keith Owens
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 02:12:40 -0500, Shawn Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: grep -r "216.234.235.46" * Im using grep in /etc and its just waiting grep -r follows symlinks and tries to open named pipes. If you have qmail installed then /etc/qmail is a symlink to /var/qmail and named pipe

Re: block ioctl to read/write last sector

2001-02-16 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, David Balazic wrote: Did you try scsi-emulation on IDE disks ? Don't be silly. That emulation is from scsi-packet to atapi-packet. Andre Hedrick Linux ATA Development ASL Kernel Development - ASL,

Re: Whats the rvmalloc() story?

2001-02-16 Thread Anton Blanchard
I note that at least 5 device drivers have similar implementations of rvmalloc()/rvfree() et al: ieee1394/video1394.c usb/ibmcam.c usb/ov511.c media/video/bttv-driver.c media/video/cpia.c rvmalloc()/rvfree() are functions that are used to allocate large

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