Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-06 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:33:49 +0200 Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi escreveu: On 01/03/2013 06:29 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:29 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com escreveu: Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:18:26 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-06 Thread Antti Palosaari
On 01/06/2013 07:03 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:33:49 +0200 Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi escreveu: On 01/03/2013 06:29 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:29 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com escreveu: Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:38:50 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: Em Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:18:49 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03.01.2013 14:20, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:38:50 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: Em Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:18:49 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu:

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Antti Palosaari
On 01/01/2013 06:48 PM, Manu Abraham wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: [RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:18:26 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de escreveu: On 03.01.2013 14:20, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:38:50 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:29 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com escreveu: Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:18:26 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de escreveu: On 03.01.2013 14:20, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:38:50 +0530 Manu Abraham

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Manu Abraham
Hi Antti, On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi wrote: On 01/01/2013 06:48 PM, Manu Abraham wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: [RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters The DVBv3 quality parameters

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:39:25 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: Hi Antti, On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi wrote: On 01/01/2013 06:48 PM, Manu Abraham wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote:

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Manu Abraham
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:39:25 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: Hi Antti, On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi wrote: On 01/01/2013 06:48 PM, Manu Abraham wrote: On

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 01:02:02 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:39:25 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: Hi Antti, On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:04 PM,

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Manu Abraham
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: Em Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:38:50 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: Em Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:18:49 +0530 Manu Abraham

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Antti Palosaari
On 01/03/2013 09:53 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 01:02:02 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:39:25 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu:

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Manu Abraham
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi wrote: Manu, here is manual of the professional ISDB-T signal analyzer. Look especially BER measurement picture from Slide 10. Sure, it looks so. Just wondering what the TDM stuffing would do after the hierarchial combiner. Manu --

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Antti Palosaari
On 01/03/2013 06:29 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:29 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com escreveu: Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:18:26 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de escreveu: On 03.01.2013 14:20, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Wed, 2 Jan

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:33:49 +0200 Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi escreveu: On 01/03/2013 06:29 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:29 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com escreveu: Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:18:26 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi wrote: I would not like to define exact units for BER and USB as those are quite hard to implement and also non-sense. User would like just to see if there is some (random) numbers and if those numbers are rising or reducing when he

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Manu Abraham
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM, VDR User user@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Antti Palosaari cr...@iki.fi wrote: I would not like to define exact units for BER and USB as those are quite hard to implement and also non-sense. User would like just to see if there is some

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-01 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:36:16 -0500 Devin Heitmueller dheitmuel...@kernellabs.com escreveu: On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-01 Thread Manu Abraham
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: [RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure; - Userspace need to guess

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-01 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:18:49 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: [RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: -

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-01 Thread Manu Abraham
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: Em Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:18:49 +0530 Manu Abraham abraham.m...@gmail.com escreveu: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: [RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality

Re: [linux-media] [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2012-12-29 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 29.12.2012 00:56, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure; - Userspace need to guess how to calculate the measure; - Only a limited set of stats are supported;

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2012-12-29 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure; - Userspace need to guess how to calculate the measure; - Only a limited

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2012-12-29 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 29.12.2012 17:36, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure; - Userspace need to guess how to

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2012-12-29 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Sat, 29 Dec 2012 18:49:21 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger klaus.schmidin...@tvdr.de escreveu: On 29.12.2012 17:36, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab mche...@redhat.com wrote: The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: -

[PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2012-12-28 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure; - Userspace need to guess how to calculate the measure; - Only a limited set of stats are supported; - Doesn't provide QoS measure for the OFDM TPS/TMCC