suspect that
the general public would see that 0 corresponds more naturally to off
than 1 does.
Hoping that all is well with you and others.
Cheers, and this is just my two cents on a trivial issue.
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algorithm is going to be in use, then clearly it is possible to get the
support going much earlier if information is provided.
Hoping that this will help you and thanking you for any additional
information about the new camera.
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Hi Theodore,
On Monday 13 September 2010 19:17:48 Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
On Friday 07 May 2010 20:20:38 Wang, Wen W wrote:
Hi all,
I'm wondering if V4L2 framework supports dual
distros offer a non-smp kernel as an installation option in case the user
needs it? So in reality how big a problem is this?
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number in gspca/sq905c.c. I will get around to doing that formally, of
course, when I get time. But if anyone wants just to add the number and
re-compile the Vendor:Product number for the new camera is 0x2770:0x9051.
Merry Christmas.
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Paulo Assis wrote:
Hi,
2010/12/18 Theodore Kilgore kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu:
Does anyone know whether, somewhere in the kernel, there exists a scheme
for detecting whether the external power supply of the computer is using
50hz or 60hz?
The reason I
and a workqueue is
another problem interesting little problem. Your thoughts on this
interesting little problem would be appreciated.
As I said, Merry Christmas :-)
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is unfortunately the foreseeable result.
An experimental kernel with some totally unrelated bug which affects my
hardware and meanwhile stops all progress.
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Andy Walls wrote:
On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 14:51 -0600, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Andy Walls wrote:
Theodore,
Aside from detect measurment of the power line, isn't a camera the best
sort of sensor for this measurment anyway
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Adam Baker wrote:
On Sunday 19 Dec 2010, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Finally, one concern that I have in the back of my mind is the question of
control settings for a camera which streams in bulk mode and requires the
setup of a workqueue. The owner of the camera says
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Andy Walls wrote:
On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 18:13 -0600, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Andy Walls wrote:
The Software for our Sakar branded Jeilin camera was a little smarter.
Oh. So _you_ had a Sakar branded camera. This was one of the things
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Alex Deucher wrote:
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Theodore Kilgore
kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
Hans,
Thanks for the helpful advice about how to set up a git tree for current
development so that I can get back into things.
However
This patch adds the Vendor:Product number of the Lego Bionicle camera to
the existing gspca/sq905c.c and also a line for the camera in gspca.txt.
The camera works out of the box with these small changes. So this is
just in time for Christmas. Think of the children.
Signed-off-by: Theodore
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waiting for me to be less busy and preoccupied.
But I have not lost interest.
Wishing for you and for all of us a peaceful and prosperous year 2011.
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capabilities? If so, you might be interested in contacting the Gphoto
project. I just searched for it there, and it does not seem to be listed.
I assume that the specialists on the spca cameras will step forward. I
am not one of them, as I said. Good luck.
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Oh, yes, and to the above we can definitely add that there is surely
enough fun for all in this. Does anyone else want to play? If so, go right
ahead and contact me or Ilya.
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(message with some relevant background information in it follows
. Testers are impatient. Developers are impatient. We are all
impatient when things like this happen. People who are not sufficiently
knowledgeable, who are not sufficiently tenacious, or who simply do not
have sufficient time or motivation will just quit. It is something to
think about.
Theodore
Mauro,
A few comments in-line. Vide infra.
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 07-01-2011 21:42, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
Have you tried Mauro's media_build tree? I had to use it today to test a
driver from git on a 2.6.35 kernel. Works quite nicely. Perhaps we
is speaking here of architecture problems, there is the additional
problem that some ARM systems might have not two PCI buses, but instead
no PCI bus at all.
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Felipe Balbi wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 01:16:47PM -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
As I have been involved in writing the drivers (both the kernel and the
libgphoto2 drivers) for many of the affected cameras, perhaps I should
expand on this problem
.
Or, to move the libgphoto2 driver to kernel, combine it in the same
driver that handles streaming. No ?
No. Something else is needed.
Alan Stern
Agreed. Something else is needed. But what? Also, very good point about
PTP.
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On 06/11/2011 06:19 PM, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
Given the many comments in this thread, I'm just
going reply to this one, and try to also answer any
other ones in this mail
of people will try to think of the best way
to handle it. Many eyes, and all that.
Not saying change your schedule, as I said. Have a nice conference. I wish
I could attend. But I do hope by this message to raise some general
concern about this problem.
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On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 03-08-2011 16:53, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
As already announced, we're continuing the planning for this year's
media subsystem workshop.
To avoid overriding the main ML
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 04-08-2011 15:37, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
Yes, that kind of thing is an obvious problem. Actually, though, it may
be
that this had just better not happen. For some of the hardware that I
know
of, it could be a real problem
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Adam Baker wrote:
On Thursday 04 August 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
As far as I know, /dev/sdx signifies a device which is accessible by
something like the USB mass storage protocols, at the very least. So, if
that fits the camera, fine. But most of the cameras
functions in libusb are intended to process
image data from still cameras. For a still camera, frame rate is
irrelevant and meaningless. Therefore the priority is, or ought to be, to
get the best possible image out of the downloaded image data.
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On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 04-08-2011 18:16, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
This sounds to be a good theme for the Workshop, or even to KS/2011.
Thanks. Do you recall when and where is KS/2011 going to take place?
The media workshop happens together with the KS
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011, Adam Baker wrote:
On Thursday 04 August 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Adam Baker wrote:
On Thursday 04 August 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
As far as I know, /dev/sdx signifies a device which is accessible by
something like the USB mass
to describe what grand vision you
yourself have in mind for the solution of the problem, with a sufficient
accounting of the details that people can all see what it is and exactly
how and why it would work absolutely perfectly, and then we can just get
busy and do it.
Theodore Kilgore
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi all,
On 08/04/2011 02:34 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 03-08-2011 20:20, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
snip snip
Yes, that kind of thing is an obvious problem. Actually, though, it may be
that this had just better not happen
hardware exists with similar characteristics, but sometimes the
functionaliy is not dual but even triple, and one can reasonably suspect
that more of this kind of thing is going to come at us in the future. I
think it is a good occasion to sit back and think things over a bit.
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to be aware of that.
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Adam Baker wrote:
I've addec Hans de Geode and linux-usb to the CC as this response picks up
on
a related discussion about the usb mini summit.
On Friday 05 August 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
If you can solve
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 07-08-2011 23:26, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
(first of two replies to Adam's message; second reply deals with other
topics)
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Adam Baker wrote:
On Friday 05 August 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
This sounds
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
This indirectly answers my question, above, about whatever device there
may or may not be. What I get from this, and also from a bit of snooping
around, is that there is not any dev that gets created
.
So, after starting all of the current mailing-list discussion on the topic
I will not be at the conference. I can only hope that those who do attend
will keep me current about what gets discussed.
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 08-08-2011 14:39, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 07-08-2011 23:26, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
(first of two replies to Adam's message; second reply deals with other
topics
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
On Sun, 7 Aug 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
This indirectly answers my question, above, about whatever device there
may or may not be. What I get from
the minimal support require to make it work.
You are right. We, basically, can not screw with the internals of
libgphoto2. At the outside, one can not go to the point where any changes
would break the support for other platforms.
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the behavior which one
woulld expect from a real still camera? It has already been done in
camlibs/jl2005c and isn't that enough?
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On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On 08/08/2011 07:39 PM, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
snip
Mauro,
In fact none of the currently known and supported cameras are using PTP.
All of them are proprietary. They have
possibilities it is.
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but I am not sure about which cameras are using this.
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On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On 08/09/2011 07:10 PM, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Hans de Goede wrote:
snip
No, but both Adam and I realized, approximately at the same time
yesterday afternoon, something which is rather important here. Gphoto
support into the kernel just because the same hardware requires kernel
support for another functionality and the two sides clash. I mean, the
kernel is already big enough, no? But the logic that Hans has set forth
seems rather compelling.
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Alan Stern wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Okay, I didn't realize that the different cameras used different webcam
drivers as well as different stillcam drivers.
Oh, yes. They are Proprietary devices. And that means what it says
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Greg KH wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 01:33:25PM -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
-- moving the kernel webcam drivers out of the kernel and doing with these
cameras _everything_ including webcam function through libusb. I myself do
not have the imagination
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 10-08-2011 15:33, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
Hans seems to have argued cogently for doing all of this in the kernel and
for abandoning the usbfs-based drivers for these particular drivers for
dual-mode cameras and, I would
processing routines, would still be used for still images.
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em 11-08-2011 17:01, Theodore Kilgore escreveu:
As I said, I am agnostic, though leaning in the direction that Hans de
Goede is pointing. What he says about a single control mechanism seems to
make a lot of sense. If you can come up
will not.
Until next time we meet, cheers.
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. If that were done, then it would be only needed to put
the USB Vendor:Product number into the gspca.txt file, along with a
pointer to the full information.
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The purpose of the following patch is to add another camera, with the new
USB Vendor:Product number 0x093a:0x010f to gspca/mr97310a.c. The camera
has also been added to the list of supported cameras in
Documentation/gspca.txt.
Signed-off-by: Theodore Kilgore kilg...@auburn.edu
of course have to move
triples instead of single bytes, in order to leave the color mapping
unmolested.
It is interesting that this problem comes up with some other cameras, too.
Theodore Kilgore
if the flipping is done in V4L or in
hardware, before the data has left the camera. It would only be necessary
to agree that any required flipping takes place first, and then the Bayer
interpolation afterwards.
Theodore Kilgore
examples, too, but these will do for a
start.
Are there any agreed-upon standards about this kind of thing, in the
camera industry? Is there any source of information about it?
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2009, Dongsoo, Nathaniel Kim wrote:
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Theodore Kilgore
kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Dongsoo, Nathaniel Kim wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm posting this RFC one more time because it seems to everyone has
been forgot
kind of standardized scale? Or is it
something which is camera-specific? Also what is does set mean in this
context? This last in view of the fact that this is data which the camera
provides for our presumed information, not something which we are sending
to the camera?
Theodore Kilgore
a standalone raw converter in the
directory playground/raw_converters/mars, on the Gphoto SVN site. Since
you are interested in the MR97310a cameras, you might be interested in
that.
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Thomas Kaiser wrote:
Hello Theodore
My answers/comments inline .
Mine, too. I will also cut out some currently non-interesting parts, in
the interest of saving space.
On 04/16/2009 01:59 AM, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Thomas,
A few questions in the text
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Kyle Guinn wrote:
On Thursday 16 April 2009 13:22:11 Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Kyle Guinn wrote:
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 02:41:05 Thomas Kaiser wrote:
Hello Theodore
kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
Also, after the byte indicator
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Kyle Guinn wrote:
On Friday 17 April 2009 12:50:51 Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Kyle Guinn wrote:
On Thursday 16 April 2009 13:22:11 Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Kyle Guinn wrote:
snip
ff ff 00 ff 96 64 d0 c1 5c c6 00 00
ff ff 00 ff
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Kyle Guinn wrote:
On Friday 17 April 2009 12:50:51 Theodore Kilgore wrote:
snip
But I have never seen the 0x64 0xX0 bytes used to count the frames.
Could you tell me how to repeat that? It certainly would knock down the
validity of the above table wouldn't
4e 02 fb f7 Header: ff ff
00 ff 96 64 d0 0c a3 02 eb f2 Header: ff ff 00 ff 96 65 50 0e c5 01 db d5
...
and so on...
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If there is no other list dealing with this kind of inquiry, then clearly
the questions are not outside of the scope of the mailing list.
Thanks in advance!
Robin
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Hoping that this helps some, and hoping that some others can fill in
the blanks that I left.
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in streaming mode,
too.
I hope this helps you find what you are looking for.
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seen either one of these two cameras. The
first one was reported to me, just like the one which you are offering to
us.
Also might you be interested to try it out as a still camera, with
libgphoto2, before surrendering it to someone else?
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for your particular
camera. The matter would be more clear if the Vendor and Product ID
numbers are known.
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On Thu, 14 May 2009, Randy Dunlap wrote:
Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Randy Dunlap wrote:
snip
Anyone have any good and clever ideas?
I suggest that you ask on the USB mailing list (linux-...@vger.kernel.org).
It occurs to me that the problem may
a USB snoop of it starting
up to do streaming?
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On Tue, 19 May 2009, Hans de Goede wrote:
On 05/16/2009 12:31 AM, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
I decided recently to work on support for the SN9C2028 dual-mode
cameras, which are supported as still cameras in
libgphoto2/camlibs/sonix. Today, I succeeded in getting three frames out
of one
scheme at all but something entirely different.
Hence my question.
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it for libv4lconvert.
The history and antecedents of this algorithm are described in
libgphoto2/camlibs/sonix/README.sonix, which was Copyright (C) 2005
Theodore Kilgore kilg...@auburn.edu, as follows:
The decompression algorithm originates, I understand, in the work of
Bertrik Sikkens
Hans,
Here is the answer which I got about the question of GPL-LGPL licensing
in regard to the sn9c2028 decompression code.
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On Thu, 28 May 2009, Hans de Goede wrote:
On 05/27/2009 11:43 PM, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Hans,
Here is the answer which I got about the question of GPL-LGPL licensing
in regard to the sn9c2028 decompression code.
Hmm,
Given that you did have contact with the original author years
.
Of course, I said above basic driver. That does not include things like
color balance, contrast, or brightness controls. Such would probably take
a little bit longer.
From what I read here, I think you will have good luck if you follow
through with this project.
Theodore Kilgore
(Greetings
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:02:37 +1000
Theodore Kilgore kilg...@banach.math.auburn.edu wrote:
Well, if you are interested in using the camera as a still camera, then
probably you ought also to send an inquiry over to
gphoto-de
is happening with your camera is, it is using something like
JPEG in stillcam mode? If so, it might possibly send down JPEG frames in
webcam mode, too. Perhaps with the use of SnoopyPro or such, it is
possible to find out?
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:43 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
Interesting. To answer your question, I have no idea off the top of my
head. I do have what seems to be a similar camera. It is
Bus 005 Device 006
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 12:47 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:43 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
Interesting. To answer your question, I have
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 12:47 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:43 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
Interesting. To answer your question, I have
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 19:26 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 12:47 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 21:43 -0500, Theodore
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 23:38 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Now it is using the other pair of endpoints, 0x03 and 0x84.
H. I wonder if we can use them anyway, without being connected in
webcam mode.
Nope. That was the previously mentioned bug
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 15:23 -0400, Andy Walls wrote:
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 23:38 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Now it is using the other pair of endpoints, 0x03 and 0x84.
H. I wonder if we can use them anyway, without being connected
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 20:04 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Sure looks that way. I took a closer look at the lines starting with ff ff
ff ff strings, and I found a couple more things. Here are several lines
from an extract from that snoop, consisting
not laugh at the fact that you get two copies of
3
x6
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Andy Walls wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 22:39 -0500, Theodore Kilgore wrote:
Andy,
You are right. Your camera is emitting JPEG while streaming. I just
succeeded in creating an image which resembles your test picture by
extracting the frame data for one frame, tacking
Kaiser tho...@kaiser-linux.li
Cc: Theodore Kilgore kilg...@auburn.edu
Cc: Kyle Guinn ely...@gmail.com
snip
Szia Marton,
As long as these things work, I would not mind at all. But perhaps this is
a good occasion to bring up an issue which seems to me very much related.
It is the following
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Németh Márton wrote:
Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Németh Márton wrote:
Remove struct sd dependency from pac_find_sof() function implementation.
This step prepares separation of pac7302 and pac7311 specific parts of
struct sd.
[...]
But here is the point
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Németh Márton wrote:
Theodore Kilgore írta:
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Németh Márton wrote:
Theodore Kilgore wrote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Németh Márton wrote:
Remove struct sd dependency from pac_find_sof() function implementation.
This step prepares separation of pac7302
of them.
Theodore Kilgore
Signed off by: Theodore Kilgore kilg...@auburn.edu
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diff -r 577440e8b8df linux/drivers/media/video/gspca/mr97310a.c
--- a/linux/drivers/media/video/gspca/mr97310a.cSun Nov 01
17:09:15 2009
many times the FF D9 is coming up in the data. There may be a
pattern to that.
Theodore Kilgore
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Congratulations. Nice.
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other examples, too.
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Thomas Kaiser wrote:
Theodore Kilgore wrote:
But OTOH this causes a problem, too, because the manufacturers of cameras
(probably some of them are not exactly manufacturers but rather packagers)
are switching the electronics inside the device any time they feel like
not see it as a serious one.
The problem is that one's tools have to be up to date. That is up to the
distro. But it is probably well known that some distros are better at
keeping up with things like this than are others.
Theodore Kilgore
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