Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-07-01 Thread m . silentcreek
Am Dienstag, 30. Juni 2015 10:34:59 UTC+2 schrieb Luc Verhaegen: It is time to extend the negative marketing campaign to some of Allwinners customers, and truly hit Allwinner where it hurts. While I do think that a large-scale boycott could really make a change here and force Allwinner to

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-30 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 02:19:00AM +0200, Henrik Nordström wrote: tor 2015-06-25 klockan 12:13 +0200 skrev Luc Verhaegen: The bad copyright headers is just stupidity. The direct loading of non-LGPLed binaries into LGPLed code is very deliberate. And to my best understanding is not in any

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-30 Thread Rodrigo Pereira
Remember, this is a high priority reverse engineering project: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/reverse-engineering Everybody must work on that. The linking of gpl libraries in the binaries must make the task easier. It's counterproductive try to hurt the image of the company in

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-29 Thread Manuel Braga
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 02:33:40 +0200 Henrik Nordström hen...@henriknordstrom.net wrote: fre 2015-06-26 klockan 01:12 +1000 skrev Julian Calaby: It's obvious what is required: 1. Datasheets 2. Programming manuals 3. GPL compliant drivers 4. (L)GPL compliant userspace stuff and maybe

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-29 Thread Manuel Braga
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 02:19:00 +0200 Henrik Nordström hen...@henriknordstrom.net wrote: tor 2015-06-25 klockan 12:13 +0200 skrev Luc Verhaegen: The bad copyright headers is just stupidity. The direct loading of non-LGPLed binaries into LGPLed code is very deliberate. And to my best

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-28 Thread Henrik Nordström
fre 2015-06-26 klockan 01:12 +1000 skrev Julian Calaby: It's obvious what is required: 1. Datasheets 2. Programming manuals 3. GPL compliant drivers 4. (L)GPL compliant userspace stuff and maybe 5. Some on-going contribution to the community And 6. That community uses and improves

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-28 Thread Henrik Nordström
tor 2015-06-25 klockan 12:13 +0200 skrev Luc Verhaegen: The bad copyright headers is just stupidity. The direct loading of non-LGPLed binaries into LGPLed code is very deliberate. And to my best understanding is not in any way a violation of the LGPL license. Care to explain what I am missing?

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-28 Thread Julian Calaby
Hi Henrik, On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Henrik Nordström hen...@henriknordstrom.net wrote: fre 2015-06-26 klockan 01:12 +1000 skrev Julian Calaby: It's obvious what is required: 1. Datasheets 2. Programming manuals 3. GPL compliant drivers 4. (L)GPL compliant userspace stuff and

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-27 Thread Clement Wong
Hey buddy, This issue has been fixed in the repo, so please don’t using aggressive words in regards of this issue. It’s just mean to reply to their action with “nothing more than Software Pirates”. They did actually wrote those code by themselves, and give them out for free, and it’s no under

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-26 Thread Clement Wong
From: allwinner-zh notificati...@github.com Date: 26 June 2015 08:00:21 CEST To: allwinner-zh/media-codec media-co...@noreply.github.com Subject: Re: [media-codec] Unsuitable copyright text in some source code files (#8) Reply-To: allwinner-zh/media-codec

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-25 Thread Michal Suchanek
Hello, On 25 June 2015 at 11:56, 'Simos Xenitellis' via linux-sunxi linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com wrote: The way I see the whole situation is this: It is true that Allwinner did not make effort over the years for mainline Linux kernel support. Whatever support is there for the A10, A13, A20,

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-25 Thread 'Simos Xenitellis' via linux-sunxi
Let's dissect. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Andrés Domínguez andres...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-06-24 21:25 GMT+02:00 Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com: If something needs to get fixed in those repositories (https://github.com/allwinner-zh/), point it out constructively. Sorry,

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-25 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:56:37PM +0300, 'Simos Xenitellis' via linux-sunxi wrote: My point has been that if there are things in the repository that should be fixed, then point them out and explain them. The bad copyright headers is just stupidity. The direct loading of non-LGPLed

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-25 Thread Julian Calaby
Hi Simos, On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:56 PM, 'Simos Xenitellis' via linux-sunxi linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com wrote: Let's dissect. Yes, let's dissect. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Andrés Domínguez andres...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-06-24 21:25 GMT+02:00 Simos Xenitellis

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-24 Thread Andrés Domínguez
2015-06-24 21:25 GMT+02:00 Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com: If something needs to get fixed in those repositories (https://github.com/allwinner-zh/), point it out constructively. Sorry, I didn't make the infringement statement and I don't know about it, but knowing about

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-24 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:57 PM, andres...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 5:45:38 PM UTC+2, Jon Smirl wrote: Personally I'm more of a believer in positive reinforcement than negative. In general I would say that at the top levels Allwinner still does not totally understand the

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-24 Thread andresdju
On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 5:45:38 PM UTC+2, Jon Smirl wrote: Personally I'm more of a believer in positive reinforcement than negative. In general I would say that at the top levels Allwinner still does not totally understand the benefits of the open source world. They know the benefits

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-24 Thread andresdju
On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 3:29:18 PM UTC+2, Simos Xenitellis wrote: Hi, This is another 'Luc drama' installment We are talking about licence infringement, but you talk as if the crime were how a guy with lack of social intelligence writes an email. Wow, I'm very surprised by your moral

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-24 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:25:16PM +0300, 'Simos Xenitellis' via linux-sunxi wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 7:51 PM, andres...@gmail.com wrote: If something needs to get fixed in those repositories (https://github.com/allwinner-zh/), point it out constructively. It is constructive to

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-24 Thread 'Simos Xenitellis' via linux-sunxi
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 7:51 PM, andres...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 3:29:18 PM UTC+2, Simos Xenitellis wrote: Hi, This is another 'Luc drama' installment We are talking about licence infringement, but you talk as if the crime were how a guy with lack of social

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-23 Thread Clement Wong
Guys, I think Jon is just saying how all hardware (and hardware + software) companies think, not just for AW, same apply to Nvidia, AMD, Apple, etc. So there isn’t really much we should troll here. I personally believe AW has valid reason internally why not to open source directly but taking

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-22 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Julian Calaby julian.cal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simos, On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:28 PM, 'Simos Xenitellis' via linux-sunxi linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: Hi, Hi, This is another

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-22 Thread Julian Calaby
Hi Simos, On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:28 PM, 'Simos Xenitellis' via linux-sunxi linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: Hi, Hi, This is another 'Luc drama' installment, full of loaded, sentimental phrases. Just like watching

[linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-22 Thread Luc Verhaegen
Hi, It's been a month since Allwinners big open source release, where they tried to shut up the big (and very justified) GPL violations noise by releasing some code which moves decoder codecs into modules, and by releasing some codecs as open source as well. As i predicted then, Allwinner now

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-22 Thread 'Simos Xenitellis' via linux-sunxi
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: Hi, Hi, This is another 'Luc drama' installment, full of loaded, sentimental phrases. Just like watching another episode of The Thick of It while it has ceased to be funny any more. The main character in that series is trying

Re: [linux-sunxi] Further Allwinner misbehaviour.

2015-06-22 Thread Luc Verhaegen
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 04:28:56PM +0300, 'Simos Xenitellis' via linux-sunxi wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote: Hi, Hi, This is another 'Luc drama' installment, full of loaded, sentimental phrases. Just like watching another episode of The