Re: Distros / kernel support

2002-05-06 Thread V K
> While we're on the subject of distributions: which distro's use kernels > that are close to the stock-standard (linux-xx.tar.gz) kernel? I know > Redhat does bad things to theirs... I consider the kernel improvements by vendors an improvement, with much more additional testing by the vendor.

Distros in common use (was Re: Re RedHat 7.3)

2002-05-06 Thread Carl Cerecke
Jonn-Paul Lambie wrote: > > Out of interest though, what distros do all you other list members use, > and why? When this question has been posed at clug meetings, the show of hands indicates (IIRC) majority RH and significant minority Mandrake, with 1s, 2s and 0s of other distributions. If

RE: Re RedHat 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Jonn-Paul Lambie
Out of interest though, what distros do all you other list members use, and why? Redhat 7.2 at home (tonight will be 7.3) :) and Server installs - easy and fast to install and good support base. IPCOP for Firewall installs VectorLinux for small special purpose installs (small footprint

Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Philip Charles
The doc CD is mean, 50MB. Phil. On Tue, 7 May 2002, Jeremy Bertenshaw wrote: > Three install cd's to download this time, must be following the bigger > is better line like some of the other distro makers. > > jeremyb. > -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand

Re: Distros / kernel support

2002-05-06 Thread Nick Rout
> While we're on the subject of distributions: which distro's use kernels > that are close to the stock-standard (linux-xx.tar.gz) kernel? I know > Redhat does bad things to theirs... I believe Mandrake does plenty to theirs. -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Solicitor, PO Box 25-275, Chris

Re: Distros / kernel support

2002-05-06 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 13:18, Theuns Verwoerd wrote: > While we're on the subject of distributions: which distro's use kernels > that are close to the stock-standard (linux-xx.tar.gz) kernel? I know > Redhat does bad things to theirs... Debian is close, IIRC. But I usually throw out the Distro'

Re: distros, was RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread C Falconer
Debian. `nuff said. Leaves me time for the machines that need coddling. (wanders off to bitchslap the nt server) On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 12:50, Gareth Williams wrote: > Nick Rout wrote > > > > > they all have their good and bad points, NO DISTRO WARS PLEASE > > > I don't mean to start a distro

Distros / kernel support

2002-05-06 Thread Theuns Verwoerd
Greetings While we're on the subject of distributions: which distro's use kernels that are close to the stock-standard (linux-xx.tar.gz) kernel? I know Redhat does bad things to theirs... Theuns KRN - Theuns Verwoerd 27 Naza

RE: distros, was RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Gavin Treadgold
I use RedHat 7.2 at home. Started back with Slackware many many years ago - must have been about '93 or so at uni. Used RedHat for a while in web hosting in '96, and I seem to keep coming back to it. I've been wanting to try Suse and Mandrake as I've read lots of good things about them, and I will

Re: distros, was RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Gareth Williams
Nick Rout wrote > > they all have their good and bad points, NO DISTRO WARS PLEASE > I don't mean to start a distro flame war, just a bit of friendly discussion. =) Besides, he started it ;-)

Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Mark Tomlinson
> Out of interest though, what distros do all you other list members use, > and why? I have used RedHat for servers at work, but use Mandrake at home. The reason for choosing Mandrake was simply because it had a few packages which were more recent than RH at the time. For me, the only real di

Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread newslett
I use Mandrake 8.2 (Cooker-Devel Version) and in addition to the below points the Mandrake team on the Cooker mailing list respond to questions fairly rapidly (and include feature requests) and have close development ties to their user base. As I use my PC as strictly a desktop machine, and

Re:distros, was RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Nick Rout
> Out of interest though, what distros do all you other list members use, > and why? desktop: dual boot mandrake and gentoo, because both are up to date and seem to have multimedia apps that actually work. gentoo is very up to the minute. servers: redhat, cos its what I started on, it seems

Re RedHat 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Richard Smart
I am using RedHat (6.2, 7.1 and 7.2) for home and school servers. No particular reason except that was what I started with and it has not caused me any real problems. A case of "it aint broke - don't fix it" so far at least Richard Smart >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Not to start a distro

Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Christopher Sawtell
Gareth J Williams wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Not to start a distro war but I'll stick with Madrake thanks... ;-) > > > And I'll stick with debian :) > > Out of interest though, what distros do all you other list members > use, and why? Mandrake, because: 1) It installs like m

Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Gareth J Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Not to start a distro war but I'll stick with Madrake thanks... ;-) And I'll stick with debian :) Out of interest though, what distros do all you other list members use, and why? > > > Nick Rout wrote: > >>>Which is the doc cd (maybe its none of these??) >>> >>

Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread newslett
Not to start a distro war but I'll stick with Madrake thanks... ;-) Nick Rout wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> Which is the doc cd (maybe its none of these??) to answer my own question, it seems that the doc cd is additional to thethree large cd's. to quote from redhat's site:"You w

Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Philip Charles
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Nick Rout wrote: > > The doc CD is mean, 50MB. > > according to http://www.distrowatch.com/ there are 3 cd's > > valhalla-i386-disc1.iso (668MB), valhalla-i386-disc2.iso (670MB) and > valhalla-i386-disc3.iso (518MB). > > Which is the doc cd (maybe its none of these??) > The do

Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Nick Rout
> Which is the doc cd (maybe its none of these??) to answer my own question, it seems that the doc cd is additional to the three large cd's. to quote from redhat's site: "You will need to download the ISO images for Intel-compatible machines: valhalla-i386- disc1.iso, valhalla-i386-disc2.iso, an

Re: Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
Yep, it's an extra one on top of the bin iso's :-) > From: Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2002/05/07 Tue AM 11:32:13 GMT+12:00 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RH 7.3 > > > The doc CD is mean, 50MB. > > according to http://www.distrowatch.com/ there are 3 cd's > > valhalla-i386-

Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Nick Rout
> The doc CD is mean, 50MB. according to http://www.distrowatch.com/ there are 3 cd's valhalla-i386-disc1.iso (668MB), valhalla-i386-disc2.iso (670MB) and valhalla-i386-disc3.iso (518MB). Which is the doc cd (maybe its none of these??) oh and they seem to be here already (happy happy joy) ft

Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Jeremy Bertenshaw
Three install cd's to download this time, must be following the bigger is better line like some of the other distro makers. jeremyb. > From: Chris Hellyar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2002/05/07 Tue AM 01:22:22 GMT+12:00 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RH 7.3 > > Thought

Users beginning to consider StarOffice

2002-05-06 Thread newslett
Users beginning to consider StarOffice http://www.idg.net.nz/webhome.nsf/NL/B2DE6810C5A94642CC256BB1000F6047 Patrick Thibodeau, SAN DIEGO End-user unrest over Microsoft's enterprise licensing plan may prompt some companies to move from the Microsoft Office suite to rival Sun Microsystems' pe

RedHat 7.3 (Valhalla) on ftp.phys.canterbury.ac.nz

2002-05-06 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
Ditto. Updates mirror will be set up later when things settle a wee bit at the main mirrors, hopefully by the end of the week. Unlike some people here on the list ... I do sleep at night :-) :-) Have fun. Cheers -- Ryurick M. Hristev mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Systems Manager Universit

Re: RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Philip Charles
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Chris Hellyar wrote: > Thought I'd be the first one to post this to the lists :-). > > RH7.3 has just been announced on the RH site.. > > May the downloads begin. > And checked about an hour ago. Two CDs coming down at 50 KBytes the other two are not fully installed on the mi

RH 7.3

2002-05-06 Thread Chris Hellyar
Thought I'd be the first one to post this to the lists :-). RH7.3 has just been announced on the RH site.. May the downloads begin. Cheers, Chris.

Microsoft complainant eyes open-source option

2002-05-06 Thread newslett
Microsoft complainant eyes open-source option Conversion to Linux not cheap, but still better than staying MS shop http://www.idg.net.nz/webhome.nsf/NL/F7F2F1153AFB0758CC256BAD00796ACA Andrea Malcolm, Auckland [Craig Horrocks] Clendon Feeney, the Auckland law firm that has filed a complaint w

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2002-05-06 Thread newslett
MS in Peruvian open-source nightmare http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25157.html By Thomas C Greene in Washington Posted: 05/05/2002 at 20:26 GMT There's a letter circulating, purportedly from Peruvian Congressman David Villanueva Nuñez to Microsoft Peru, which cuts the heart out of Red

Linux networks much cheaper than Windows - report

2002-05-06 Thread newslett
Linux networks much cheaper than Windows - report http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/25148.html By John Leyden Posted: 03/05/2002 at 12:59 GMT Total cost of ownership (TCO) for medium-sized companies is up to a third lower for Linux than for Windows based systems. That's according to Austr