Re: OpenMoko distributor

2008-10-22 Thread David Lowe
: There is a reasonably significant initial investment required to become an OpenMoko distributor, and there is a lot of uncertainty around how popular the device will be, given its limited audience. Therefore, we would appreciate it if those who would purchase one or more OpenMoko Neo FreeRunner devices

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-10 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 04:55:05PM +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: I've been to the telecom shop in the palms and asked if it was possible to change a vodafone phone to their network and the guy said not yetand that was on the 6th of july Telecom's GSM network is still under development, the

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-10 Thread Daniel Hill
This is was intended to state that you should be able to use the Neo FreeRunner on the telecom network On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 04:55:05PM +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: I've been to the telecom shop in the palms and asked if it was possible to change a vodafone phone to their network and the

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-10 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:21:10PM +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: This is was intended to state that you should be able to use the Neo FreeRunner on the telecom network Not yet, but once Telecom's GSM network is live, the GSM 850 version will work on the Telecom network. but you can buy global

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-10 Thread Don Gould
Is the data HDPA (or what ever the tla is)? My mobile is 3G but will only do GPRS speeds. Can the wifi in the phone be configured as an AP? Cheers Don Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:21:10PM +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: This is was intended to state that you should be

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-10 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 08:32:46PM +1200, Don Gould wrote: Is the data HDPA (or what ever the tla is)? My mobile is 3G but will only do GPRS speeds. No, the FreeRunner is not a 3G phone and thus does not support HSDPA or HSUPA. I understand OpenMoko have tentative plans to do a 3G version

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-09 Thread Daniel Hill
I've been to the telecom shop in the palms and asked if it was possible to change a vodafone phone to their network and the guy said not yetand that was on the 6th of july

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Andrew Sands
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:00:33 John Carter wrote: Question 3 to the Group: I'm planning on ordering one for myself, and would be prepared to go for a 10 pack if enough others are interested. Anybody else interested? John, If we can confirm the ability for the device to operate on local

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
The Neo FreeRunner is a standard GSM 900/1800/1900 unit and will operate on the NZ Vodafone network. Our company is currently in the process of becoming an official distributor and will likely be offering them in NZ very soon. More details on price etc shortly... -Jasper On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Francis White
On 8/07/2008, at 2:24 PM, Jim Cheetham wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makes an iPhone at $199 seem cheap LOL (albeit on a 24 month contract, not sure how much that will cost) The monthly contract for the $199 8GB iPhone is $250 with 1GB data. Over

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Douglas Royds
. Vodafone Broadband Everyday 1Gb = $60 $300/month over 2 years is $7200. They offer a $400 subsidy on a New Vodafone mobile - which presumably wouldn't extend to the OpenMoko. === This email, including any attachments, is only

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Douglas Royds
= $240/month, approx. Vodafone Broadband Everyday 1Gb = $60 $300/month over 2 years is $7200. They offer a $400 subsidy on a New Vodafone mobile - which presumably wouldn't extend to the OpenMoko. Oops: The OpenMoko is a WiFi phone. Add SIP calling, and never hand Vodafone a cent for voice

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread John Carter
On the surface, given that OpenMoko doesn't have the 900 in stock at the moment, it would appear best to wait for Jasper's offering. However, maybe a decade or two in the computer industry has scarred me and made me terribly cynical... I have often found this Distributor term has two very

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:06:28 +1200 (NZST) John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the surface, given that OpenMoko doesn't have the 900 in stock at the moment, it would appear best to wait for Jasper's offering. However, maybe a decade or two in the computer industry has scarred me and made

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
shipped across town. Defective equipment will be swapped out, the length of warranty we provide will depend on what OpenMoko's terms are. We would swap a defective unit with stock held locally. The defective one would likely be sent back to OpenMoko for repair, but the customer shouldn't have

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Francis White
with apples (sorry): Vodafone YouChoose with 600+600 = $240/month, approx. Vodafone Broadband Everyday 1Gb = $60 $300/month over 2 years is $7200. They offer a $400 subsidy on a New Vodafone mobile - which presumably wouldn't extend to the OpenMoko. Oops: The OpenMoko is a WiFi phone. Add

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Francis White
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Mobile-phones/Vodafone-network/Other/ auction-164652052.htm Found that on trademe. Thought it might be interesting for someone. Francis

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Francis White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Mobile-phones/Vodafone-network/Other/auction-164652052.htm Found that on trademe. Thought it might be interesting for someone. Francis Withdrawn by Admin - what was it?

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Brenda Wallace
Withdrawn by the administrator wtf? On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:12:12 Francis White wrote: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Mobile-phones/Vodafone-network/Other/ auction-164652052.htm Found that on trademe. Thought it might be interesting for someone. Francis

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Jim Cheetham
I presume that TradeMe don't like being used to organise off-site selling. i.e. they wouldn't get a cut of the final sale price of the phone, therefore the listing violated their Terms Conditions. I'd expect that the account that listed it was disabled now, too. -jim On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Francis White
It was a group of people to buy a Freerunner, just gathering interest, because the price was $0.50 buy now. On 9/07/2008, at 4:27 PM, Brenda Wallace wrote: Withdrawn by the administrator wtf? On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:12:12 Francis White wrote:

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread Brett Davidson
Yes - most likely. Completely OT now but that site is less useful to me by the day. I want to sell my old leather lounge suite but I'm not allowed to advertise contact details so people can come and look at it. Who would buy a lounge suite without physically looking at it? Jim Cheetham

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-08 Thread John Carter
desire to have one of these phones, I'm trying to convince Tait Electronics that Openmoko has much potential in our line of business. Having a local supplier might just make that easier. We use linux as our development environment and I have on top of linux variations of our radio software. I

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread David Lowe
. http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml The telecom site suggests that you'll not be able to use the openmoko on their network... http://telecom.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/telecom.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=104 http://telecom.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/telecom.cfg/php/enduser

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Neil Stockbridge
available for $399 or $3690 for packs of 10. http://www.openmoko.com/product.html I note Vodafone 900 and 1800 services and Telecom has 850mhz planned. http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml The telecom site suggests that you'll not be able to use the openmoko on their network

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread david merriman
for packs of 10. http://www.openmoko.com/product.html I note Vodafone 900 and 1800 services and Telecom has 850mhz planned. http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml The telecom site suggests that you'll not be able to use the openmoko on their network... http://telecom.custhelp.com

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread chris
I am interested, but only if it works in NZ Cheers Chris Thomas On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 11:00 +1200, John Carter wrote: The Open Source / Embedded Linux Open / Hackable Cellphone is on sale now! I note their 900/1800/1900 Mhz tri band is sold out, but the 850/1800/1900 is still available for

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Don Gould
I'm with Neil on this one... now just tell me how I get the budget past SWMBO?!?! Cheers Don Neil Stockbridge wrote: If so then I'm definitely in. we've got to support these guys otherwise open hardware as a concept won't work.

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread David Lowe
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now just tell me how I get the budget past SWMBO?!?! Just put it through the accounting system as a 'Mobile Open Band Internet Linux Extension' and she wont even question it. The acronym will do. We will say nothing :-)

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with Neil on this one... now just tell me how I get the budget past SWMBO?!?! Thrift or embezzlement as the case may be. :-) -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:00:33 +1200 (NZST) John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question 1 to the Group: Do we need to have the 900Mhz version here or is the 850 preferable because in the longer term it will allow us to switch to Telecom if we wish? You need 9/18 for 'proper' ( as in I'm not

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:00:33 +1200 (NZST) John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question 1 to the Group: Do we need to have the 900Mhz version here or is the 850 preferable because in the longer term it will allow us to

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Douglas Royds
Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:00:33 +1200 (NZST) John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question 1 to the Group: Do we need to have the 900Mhz version here or is the 850 preferable because in the longer

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makes an iPhone at $199 seem cheap LOL (albeit on a 24 month contract, not sure how much that will cost) The monthly contract for the $199 8GB iPhone is $250 with 1GB data. Over the 24 month term, that's $6000 + $199 + voice

Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.

2008-07-07 Thread Kerry
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 13:43 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:00:33 +1200 (NZST) John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question 1 to the Group: Do we need to have the 900Mhz version here or is the 850

Re: Openmoko

2008-06-13 Thread Daniel Hill
doesn't telecom work with GSM now? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:43 AM, John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After many delays... the SMT lines are rolling and the OpenMoko open linux phone has gone into mass production. Sales to open shortly. Finally the vapour around Open Linux mobile phones

Re: Openmoko

2008-06-13 Thread Vik Olliver
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 18:27 +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: doesn't telecom work with GSM now? Not just yet. Vik :v)

Openmoko

2008-06-09 Thread John Carter
After many delays... the SMT lines are rolling and the OpenMoko open linux phone has gone into mass production. Sales to open shortly. Finally the vapour around Open Linux mobile phones is dispersing and I'll soon be able to get my sticky fingers on one. John Carter

Re: Openmoko

2008-06-09 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:43 AM, John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After many delays... the SMT lines are rolling and the OpenMoko open linux phone has gone into mass production. Sales to open shortly. Finally the vapour around Open Linux mobile phones is dispersing and I'll soon be able

Re: Openmoko

2008-06-09 Thread chris
Interesting Do you have any idea if it will work with telecom or vodaphone though? cheers Chris On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 08:43 +1200, John Carter wrote: After many delays... the SMT lines are rolling and the OpenMoko open linux phone has gone into mass production. Sales to open shortly

Re: Openmoko

2008-06-09 Thread Michael JasonSmith
The OpenMoko is a GSM (GPRS, not HSDPA) phone.

Re: Openmoko

2008-06-09 Thread Don Gould
Do they have plans for HSDPA? PS: MJS - unset your reply address, the list doesn't over ride it. I sent the last message direct to you, sorry :) Michael JasonSmith wrote: The OpenMoko is a GSM (GPRS, not HSDPA) phone.

Re: [SPAM-Bowenvale] Re: Openmoko

2008-06-09 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 13:48 +1200, Don Gould wrote: Do they have plans for HSDPA? I am unsure if they have plans for HSDPA. I guess so, but a Google should confirm it ☺

Re: Openmoko

2008-06-09 Thread John Carter
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:43 AM, John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After many delays... the SMT lines are rolling and the OpenMoko open linux phone has gone into mass production. Sales to open shortly. Finally the vapour around Open Linux mobile phones

Re: Openmoko

2008-06-09 Thread Douglas Royds
Um, you could just subscribe to the RSS feed, no FF extension required ... http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchangesfeed=rss John Carter wrote: I use the firefox updatescanner addon to poll every couple of days... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates

OpenMoko

2007-02-04 Thread John Carter
Hokay, I have got a bad case of the BuyMe's... http://www.openmoko.com/press/index.html Yet I have a horrible sinking suspicion that we will have * pigs dying of H5N1 * caught whilst gambolling through the air, * consorting with the Wild Geese long before my personal mobile service

Re: OpenMoko

2007-02-04 Thread Don Gould
I'm in, I'll play... Let me know how I can help John Carter wrote: Hokay, I have got a bad case of the BuyMe's... http://www.openmoko.com/press/index.html Yet I have a horrible sinking suspicion that we will have * pigs dying of H5N1 * caught whilst gambolling through the air, *

Re: OpenMoko

2007-02-04 Thread John Carter
the status of the Openmoko is at the moment but you can buy the Greenphone for US$695 [1]http://www.trolltech.com/products/qtopia/greenphone Last I heard OpenMoko was aiming for US$350 retail price mark. http://nicegear.co.nz New Zealand's VoIP supplier It looks like this is fairly squarely in your

Re: OpenMoko

2007-02-04 Thread John Carter
it on and The Right Thing to happen. And there is the profit potential with OpenMoko. Adding the profit of retailing the phone can cross subsidize the costs of customizing to application. The trouble with customers these days is they have been irrevocably spoilt. The secret is out, they now know what a Good

Re: OpenMoko

2007-02-04 Thread Hadley Rich
systems.) I'm interested in this sort of thing from a tinkering standpoint but, like you say, we already have the infrastructure there and I'm always happy to add open source products. If I said to you What's your price for two OpenMoko phones, what would your response be? I don't know yet