Hi,
I though I would find out the CLUGs opinion of which is better C or C++. I am
thinking of learning a lower level programming language. I know many higher level
languages such as C#, VB and PHP and some others but am trying to decide which
language I should learn next.
I know
C++ definately, but learning Java might be more useful,
at the end of the day it's just another language and when
you know one OOP language you can switch pretty easily.
jeremyb.
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Date: 2002/09/20 Fri PM 09:14:01 GMT+12:00
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It's a diffucult question that's gonna depend on what you want to do with
them. I'll echo Jeremy's comment that c++ is just another O-O language and
once you've learnt one it's pretty much just syntax differences between
them (hmm...that's not quite true, but good enough).
However, I disagree
I've dabbled in both, but wouldn't call myself a serious programmer.
The main thing is to get used to thinking of C and C++ as two completely distinct
languages.
Don't be tempted to think of C++ as a version of C.
I teach-yourself-C++ book I have stresses that C++ can be harder to learn
(Caveat: I don't know much C++)
On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 07:36, Tim Wright wrote:
Additionally, C's memory management is pretty bloody awful to use.
True. But you learn a lot about memory management in the process, and
that is not a bad goal in itself.
Yes, C is the basis for almost every other
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Hi,
I though I would find out the CLUGs opinion of which is better C or
C++. I am thinking of learning a lower level programming language.
I know many higher level languages such as C#, VB and PHP and some
others but am trying to decide which language I should
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Carl Cerecke wrote:
IMO, C++ should never have been invented.
This comment is interesting. OK I'll bite. Why ?
Now it is true that many purists will balk at some C++ design decisions
but when I've read the Stroustrup book I've got the distinct feeling
that some features
Ryurick M. Hristev wrote:
I'll second this. C and C++ are worlds apart:
C- functional programming (paradigm of the '70-es ?)
C is *imperative* style language
Haskell is *functional* style language
Prolog is logical
Java is OOP
C++ - OOP (paradigm of the '90-es)
C++ is a (lousy) mix
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Carl Cerecke wrote:
Ryurick M. Hristev wrote:
I'll second this. C and C++ are worlds apart:
C- functional programming (paradigm of the '70-es ?)
C is *imperative* style language
Haskell is *functional* style language
Prolog is logical
Java is OOP
Doh! Sorry
If you are familiar with oop, there is nothing to stop you adopting
an oo approach to your C programming. The use of pointers to functions
and structures make it relatively simple to adopt an oo style to your
programming.
Guy Steven.
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Carl Cerecke wrote:
the odd niche here and there. There is at least one other major
language style, programming by example, I think. Tim Wright knows
more about that I think.
mmm, *at least* one other programming style. Programming by Example and
Programming by
At 10:38 20/09/02 +1200, you wrote:
Ryurick M. Hristev wrote:
I'll second this. C and C++ are worlds apart:
C- functional programming (paradigm of the '70-es ?)
C is *imperative* style language
Haskell is *functional* style language
Prolog is logical
Java is OOP
C++ - OOP (paradigm
at 12:01, stringer wrote:
FLAME SUIT
And CoBOL is best for business data processing
Something like 80% of the US Fortune 500 companies still use it for their
back end processing, perhaps with a C++ or Java front end for an interface
to the terminal/web. They use it for a reason - because
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Zane Gilmore wrote:
This is not because COBOL is the best language for the job but because
that's what they've always used. There are heaps of better languages.
Here's where I agree with Zane...not that that's unusual :) I've actually
worked with a couple of companies
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Zane Gilmore wrote:
[...]
Sorry I had to say that as it is an issue here where I work.
I had to learn COBOL and it is *not* easy, quick and reliable,... it's
crap compared to a modern language.
You have my deepest sympathy :-)
I've heard that it was the 2nd or 3rd
Just to muddy the waters I've always wanted to learn Objective-C, which
was invented at around the same time as C++ with a similar goal in
mind. It never took off outside the NeXT [read MacOS X] system, but it
looks like a far cleaner language. Objective-C could have been adopted
as the main OO
On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 10:38:08AM +1200, Carl Cerecke wrote:
Haskell is *functional* style language
Prolog is logical
They both rock :) Haskell especially. One cool thing about prolog, is the
ability to solve complex problems in usually less than 5-10 lines.
Hmm.. might have to go dig out
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