Vet software

2002-05-22 Thread Ted Ozolins
Awhile back someone was looking for a Vet office package. I'm not sure if you found one but check out VetTux (freshmeat) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 14:43, dep wrote: first -- jeez! there's a multitude of ideas here, all of them good. i still wonder what it would take to adapt what we already have from 2.4, how copying the whole cd to a directory, updating the rpms (which, okay, would be a hell of a job), burning

Re: Killed message log!!!

2002-05-22 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on May 21, Harry G managed to emit: In my attempt to find the trouble with cdrecord, I meant to copy my /var/log/messages doc. Instead, due to the hour, I renamed it. I successfully renamed it back, but now, there is no logging report being generated in the message

GRUB LILO

2002-05-22 Thread Brian Witowski
How would I go about removing LILO from a HD and replacing it with GRUB? There is only one OS on the machine, if that matters. Brian ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info,

Re: Killed message log!!! SOLVED

2002-05-22 Thread Harry G
Thank you. Boy, I sure feel dumb! Harry G On Wednesday May 22 2002 05:34 am, you interfaced in analog form: Scribbling feverishly on May 21, Harry G managed to emit: In my attempt to find the trouble with cdrecord, I meant to copy my /var/log/messages doc. Instead, due to the hour, I

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
Skippy do you need the original ed 2.4 cd ? I have a one copy here and there are several in a store thelast time I looked. I can burn a copy if you need it. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1.1 Registered Linux

Re: OT Maybe

2002-05-22 Thread David A. Bandel
On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:21:35 + begin Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: OK, then how about the open p tags. ??? There's no open p tags in the linuxbooks.pananix.com/basic/toc.html This is a whole separate tree from my pananix site. -- Focus on the dream, not the

Gcmbust as non-root

2002-05-22 Thread Tim Wunder
OK gcombust lovers, how do I get the damn program to work as non-root? This is a permissions issue that seems to be escaping me. My symptoms are as follows: I start gcombust and go to the Burn tab, then click the Check scsi settings button. I am then presented with an error message, cdrecord

Re: GRUB LILO

2002-05-22 Thread Collins
On Wed, 22 May 2002 07:16:58 -0400 Brian Witowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would I go about removing LILO from a HD and replacing it with GRUB? There is only one OS on the machine, if that matters. 1. make sure you have a lilo boot disk, and verify that it works 2. Install grub software

Re: Gcmbust as non-root

2002-05-22 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
Since xcdroast works, I would imagine that cdrecord itself has proper permissions. Still, I have to ask... Mine are: -r-sr-sr-x 1 root root 185948 Dec 13 13:55 /usr/bin/cdrecord I had to do a 'chmod +s' myself. I don't care what the packages claim. It don't work for me without this. What

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Leon A. Goldstein
Skippy (Keith Antoine) wrote inter alia: Also I have Suse 8.0 and , _CANNOT_ get the dvd drive to be seen as ide-scsi tried practically everything to no avail, assist please. As most know I wrote the original SxS on this but Suse is a 'Bast***'. I even got it seen in Mandrake's latest but

Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-22 Thread Tony Alfrey
Hi gang! Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a well-assembled distro? Thanks -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list -

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-22 Thread stayler
On Wed, 22 May 2002 06:18:54 -0700, Tony Alfrey wrote: Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a well-assembled distro? Thanks Not really... I had better luck with Slackware 8.0 YMMV Stayler ___ Linux-users

Re: Gcmbust as non-root

2002-05-22 Thread Tim Wunder
On 5/22/2002 9:13 AM, someone claiming to be Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Since xcdroast works, I would imagine that cdrecord itself has proper permissions. Still, I have to ask... Mine are: -r-sr-sr-x 1 root root 185948 Dec 13 13:55 /usr/bin/cdrecord -rws--x--- 1 root xcdwrite

Re: OT Maybe

2002-05-22 Thread David A. Bandel
On Tue, 21 May 2002 08:29:50 -0400 begin Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On 5/21/2002 6:45 AM, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2002 08:50:23 +0200 begin Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Will there be a section on this in the

Re: Gcmbust as non-root

2002-05-22 Thread Susan Macchia
I always run it as root because I really don't care to worry about running it as me. So I simply set up an icon that uses kdesu. Then when I click the icon, I enter the root password and gcombust comes up and I cna burn with no problemo. I could never get xcdroast to work. (or kconcd either).

Re: Gcmbust as non-root

2002-05-22 Thread Net Llama!
Truth be told, i've always run it as root too. I dont' see what the big deal is. If you're going to directly access the hardware, its prolly better that root do it anyway. Or go with sudo. On Wed, 22 May 2002, Susan Macchia wrote: I always run it as root because I really don't care to worry

Re: OT Maybe

2002-05-22 Thread Tim Wunder
On 5/22/2002 9:44 AM, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2002 08:29:50 -0400 begin Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On 5/21/2002 6:45 AM, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2002 08:50:23 +0200 begin Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL

Re: OT Maybe

2002-05-22 Thread David A. Bandel
On Wed, 22 May 2002 10:19:43 -0400 begin Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: [snip] Which version of Konqueror would that be? Were you seeing the same problem I was (konqueror-2.x had black text/white background/scroll bar, konqueror-3.x had blue text/yellow background/no scroll

FreeSCO vs. SmoothWall

2002-05-22 Thread Net Llama!
I'm in the process of setting up a firewall/router box, and i've reduced my choices to Freesco Smoothwall. I'd like some input from anyone who has used them on pro's cons. thanks! -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman

RE: GRUB LILO

2002-05-22 Thread Brian Witowski
Went off without a hitch. Thanks all! Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Collins Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB LILO On Wed, 22 May 2002 07:16:58 -0400 Brian Witowski [EMAIL

Linux Journal Weekly News Notes -- May 22nd

2002-05-22 Thread Federico Voges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Enjoy... Linux Journal Weekly News Notes -- May 22nd _ Feature Links of the Week Amateur Video Production Using Free Software and Linux:

Re:FreeSCO vs. SmoothWall

2002-05-22 Thread Ben Duncan
For small Internal network accessing the Internet, I prefer FreeSco, thought I have not used SmoothWall. Freesco I put On a 200MB Disk P150Mhz with 32MB Ram and works great. It installs on the disk as yea-old Dos Fat ... -- Ben Duncan Phone (601)-355-2574 Fax (601)-355-2573 Cell

Re: Installation Guide for OO

2002-05-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
On Tue, 07 May 2002 07:56:18 -0600 BOF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that in order to use this, you have to have Open Office installed as it is in an open office file format. ROFL ___ Linux-users mailing list -

Re: CheckPoint Firewall.

2002-05-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
My input is about CheckPoint FireWall-1 in general. I have only run CheckPoint on Solaris and Nokia's, but what I can tell you is still valid for consideration: Their product is a good product. Very powerful and fairly easy to use Their included management GUI is only for Windows. An

Re: FreeSCO vs. SmoothWall

2002-05-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Things I like to look for in Firewall solutions: Are they connection tracking (ie. do they use Linux 2.4 kernel)? Smoothwall DID NOT last I knew. I don't know anything about Freesco. On Wed, 22 May 2002 12:00:28 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/22/2002 10:50 AM, someone

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 23:17, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: I am interested in the answer too. At the risk of starting a small bush fire, I'd suggest cease flagellating yourself with SuSE and try a nice Debian like Libranet. The point here is that I dislike almost as much as I do

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 23:18, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi gang! Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a well-assembled distro? Thanks Geez, Tony where yer bin mate. Both of us over the years have 'talked' and I guess i know a few things that you

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 06:23:29AM +1000, Keith Antoine wrote: ... Memory on my part is one of my downfalls. However was there not a release before the eDesktop 2.4 that was just a plain Caldera 2.4 ? Was this not the best release of all, or am I getting mixed up again. If so I do have the eD

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Jim Conner
IIRC, Caldera released them in this order. Desktop -- OpenLinux 2.3 eDesktop 2.4 Linux Technology Preview(LTP) W3.1 W3.1.1 Server - eServer 2.3 eServer 2.3.1 (had some updates and patches) S3.1 S3.1.1 I'm not sure what was released by Caldera prior to that because I've only been using

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:23 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 08:47, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: Skippy do you need the original ed 2.4 cd ? I have a one copy here and there are several in a store thelast time I looked. I can burn a copy if you need it. cheers

Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out

2002-05-22 Thread Net Llama!
Does it still suck? ;) On Wed, 22 May 2002, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 on some of the mirrors... snarfing it now ;) -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff
At 01:47 PM 5/22/02 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: The release order of the 2+ versions we've used as I remember it was: OpenLinux 2.2 # we skipped this one -- rushed to make the first LinuxWorld OpenLinux 2.3 eServer 2.3 # last to use LILO eDesktop 2.4# first to use GRUB ...also when

Re: OT Maybe

2002-05-22 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
On Wed, 22 May 2002 07:20:51 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:21:35 + begin Ronnie Gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: OK, then how about the open p tags. ??? There's no open p tags in the linuxbooks.pananix.com/basic/toc.html This

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on May 22, Stuart Biggerstaff managed to emit: At 01:47 PM 5/22/02 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: The release order of the 2+ versions we've used as I remember it was: OpenLinux 2.2 # we skipped this one -- rushed to make the first LinuxWorld OpenLinux 2.3 eServer 2.3

Re: Installation Guide for OO

2002-05-22 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
And what if OOo won't open it G - which it didn't! Matthew Carpenter wrote: On Tue, 07 May 2002 07:56:18 -0600 BOF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that in order to use this, you have to have Open Office installed as it is in an open office file format. ROFL -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL

Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out

2002-05-22 Thread Tim Wunder
Been running it for a week ;-) On Wednesday 22 May 2002 05:49 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 on some of the mirrors... snarfing it now ;) -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1+, kernel 2.4.18-preempt, KDE 3.0.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 4:00pm up 1 day, 20:23, 5

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-22 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:50:14 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:43 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 23:18, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi gang! Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-22 Thread Ken Moffat
I downloaded the 3 cd's, which installed flawlessly, then after playing for a while I ran the caldera update script, which ran, but had many errors downloading rpm's, BUT I kept at it, just pressing 'next' over and over until it completed, and the rpm's were all installed. Worked fine, but a bit

Re: FreeSCO vs. SmoothWall

2002-05-22 Thread Tim Wunder
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:24 pm, Net Llama! wrote: snip Two questions: 1) Do you know where I can get the extra modules package? Seems like its disapeared since freesco changed domains, and i need the eepro100 module for my NICs. The freesco site? As I said, it just worked for me. The

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-22 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 03:30 pm,Jerry McBride wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:50:14 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:43 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 23:18, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi gang! Anybody had any experience

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Aaron Grewell
From a stability standpoint 1.2 and 1.3 totally rocked. It bugged me that the glibc issues made my boxes totally incompatible with everyone else's, but judging from the wailing RH users were doing about the early glibc2 releases I'm really glad I missed that evilness. On Wed, 2002-05-22 at

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-22 Thread Collins
On Wed, 22 May 2002 14:50:14 -0700 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:43 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 23:18, Tony Alfrey wrote: Hi gang! Anybody had any experience installing 3.1.1? In other words, does it seem like a well-assembled

kernel question?

2002-05-22 Thread Robt. Hemus
May I upgrade my kernel, or remove it and replace it, with the linux-2.4.18.tar.bz2 from the LFS site as I would a patch? Bob -- I just heard that photons have mass. I didn't even know they were Catholics. Don Geddis

Re: kernel question?

2002-05-22 Thread Net Llama!
Neither really. You should never remove a working kernel until you have a known good replacement. Robt. Hemus wrote: May I upgrade my kernel, or remove it and replace it, with the linux-2.4.18.tar.bz2 from the LFS site as I would a patch? Bob --

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 23 May 2002 06:47, Bill Campbell wrote: OpenLinux 2.2 # we skipped this one -- rushed to make the first LinuxWorld OpenLinux 2.3 eServer 2.3 # last to use LILO eDesktop 2.4# first to use GRUB OpenLinux 3.1 Workstation and Server OpenLinux 3.1.1 Workstation and Server

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Net Llama!
Keith Antoine wrote: On Thursday 23 May 2002 06:47, Bill Campbell wrote: OpenLinux 2.2 # we skipped this one -- rushed to make the first LinuxWorld OpenLinux 2.3 eServer 2.3 # last to use LILO eDesktop 2.4# first to use GRUB OpenLinux 3.1 Workstation and Server OpenLinux 3.1.1

backing up a laptop

2002-05-22 Thread Net Llama!
Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus, the only way I can get files on or off the HD, is via the floppy or with scp (ssh). The HD is

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 23 May 2002 07:15, Jim Conner wrote: IIRC, Caldera released them in this order. Desktop -- OpenLinux 2.3 eDesktop 2.4 Linux Technology Preview(LTP) W3.1 W3.1.1 Right thought ltp was in that order. I'm not sure what was released by Caldera prior to that because I've

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread dep
begin Keith Antoine's quote: | Ok so I do have the right release disk here. I like grub myself but | most do not, what I am doing is to copy tye disk to HD and start | upgrading it. I also want to alter the install and add a bit in | like, lilo/grub choice install, recognotion of tv cards and

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 23 May 2002 07:46, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:23 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 08:47, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: Skippy do you need the original ed 2.4 cd ? I have a one copy here and there are several in a store thelast time I

Re: backing up a laptop

2002-05-22 Thread William F. Day
what about mounting a share (NFS or Samba) and making the tarbal on it? Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 8:10pm up 7 days, 19:24, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 - Original Message - From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 9:34

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-22 Thread Leon A. Goldstein
Tony Alfrey wrote: H. Are you on the SuSE list? I follow it and there seems to be a moderate amount of angst with various things about 8.0. So I've been reluctant to spend my time on it. I have SuSE 8 on my lab rat where I too reluctantly spend time with it. Its latest stunt: I

Re: backing up a laptop

2002-05-22 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 06:34:15PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus, the only way I can get files on or off

Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out

2002-05-22 Thread Net Llama!
Keith Antoine wrote: On Thursday 23 May 2002 09:30, Tim Wunder wrote: Been running it for a week ;-) AND ? He's still waiting for KMail to start up ;) -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL

Re: backing up a laptop

2002-05-22 Thread Net Llama!
No file servers available. :( William F. Day wrote: what about mounting a share (NFS or Samba) and making the tarbal on it? Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 8:10pm up 7 days, 19:24, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 - Original Message - From: Net Llama! [EMAIL

Re: backing up a laptop

2002-05-22 Thread Andrew Mathews
Net Llama! wrote: Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus, the only way I can get files on or off the HD, is via the floppy or with

Re: Caldera 3.1.1

2002-05-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 23 May 2002 11:47, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Tony Alfrey wrote: H. Are you on the SuSE list? I follow it and there seems to be a moderate amount of angst with various things about 8.0. So I've been reluctant to spend my time on it. I have SuSE 8 on my lab rat where I

Re: backing up a laptop

2002-05-22 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wed, 22 May 2002 18:34:15 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus, the only way I can get

Re: backing up a laptop

2002-05-22 Thread Net Llama!
Jerry McBride wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2002 18:34:15 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I've got a bit of a problem on my hands. I've got a laptop with a 4GB drive, that currently has about 1.7GB free (less than half). It has a CDROM(not a burner) floppy drive. Thus,

Re: Installation Guide for OO

2002-05-22 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I have that - have had for a while. Someone on the mail list finally gave me the URL. This really should be in the README or INSTALL files! I was poking fun at the fact that another link to some install instructions couldn't be opened in OOo. bof wrote: See

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 23 May 2002 11:38, dep wrote: i propose that the resulting distribution be called skippy, and i for one will rush to put it on every machine here. Rofl! Er, I think.. also, 2.4 had both lilo and grub, though the latter was the default, i believe. i remember

Re: a crackpot idea i had

2002-05-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Thursday 23 May 2002 11:38, dep wrote: i propose that the resulting distribution be called skippy, and i for one will rush to put it on every machine here. BTW is there anything specific to the task I am knowingly throwing myself into that I should read ? No sarcastic remarks will be

Re: KDE 3.0.1 is out

2002-05-22 Thread stayler
On Wed, 22 May 2002 17:56:54 -0400 (EDT), Net Llama! wrote: Does it still suck? ;) ROFLMAO! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above

Re: FreeSCO vs. SmoothWall

2002-05-22 Thread Tim Wunder
On Wednesday 22 May 2002 09:19 pm, Net Llama! wrote: Tim Wunder wrote: On Wednesday 22 May 2002 01:24 pm, Net Llama! wrote: snip 2) Is it simply a matter of copying the floppy image to a HD, or how involved is it to get this running somewhere other than the floppy? Don't know this