Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 16:03:32 -0600 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled intuitively: Matthew Carpenter wrote: If you don't want to read it, note that the OT and TID tags have not gone away and just delete the messages. On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 07:33:03 -0600 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL

Re: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability (fwd)

2002-06-26 Thread Keith Morse
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: There has been a heated discussion on this over in the FreeBSD security list, suffice to say that Theo's obnoxious attitude doesn't help matters. Nonetheless this is important info: The way i see it,

Re: snagit clone?

2002-06-26 Thread Ronnie Gauthier
Just ran across this, might work for you. http://www.qarbon.com/products/viewletbuilder/ On Tuesday 25 June 2002 08:40 pm, Alan Jackson wrote: Is anyone aware of something on Linux (Solaris, really) that does what snagit does? Specifically, a fellow at work wants to document some software

Re: pppd question

2002-06-26 Thread Anita Lewis
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:06:35 -0400, Brian Witowski wrote: What script is used to pass modem strings to the modem (such as s0=0) when using pppd? Thanks, Brian If you are using wvdial, it goes in /etc/wvdial.conf like this: Init1 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 S11=55 +FCLASS=0 Actually in mine,

RE: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability (fwd)

2002-06-26 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
So, you are using M$ as an example of proper behavior for coders? Either in society or in code? From: Net Llama! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't forget about M$. On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Michael Hipp wrote: I don't believe there is anywhere written in the social contract that

Capturing a ^C to break out of a script?

2002-06-26 Thread James McDonald
Umm I was wondering if there is anyway of breaking out of a script by capturing the CTRL+C combination and completey exiting the script I am running the following and if the login fails it still trys to go through the entire 'for in do' Thanks #!/bin/sh # login to cvs me=$0 export

Re: Capturing a ^C to break out of a script?

2002-06-26 Thread Joel Hammer
I am not sure just what you want to do. The ctrl-c key should be able to kill your program for you. If not, try ctrl-\. Usually, I use the or || construct if I need to test for the success of a command before I continue. eg: cvs login || exit 1 (I am not sure what cvs login is so this

Re: Capturing a ^C to break out of a script?

2002-06-26 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
I define a procedure that will be called. In this case, it prints a message and then calls my Exit procedure for a tidy exit: # # Catch program termination. # interrupt () { cat *EOF* ERROR: The backup was interrupted before it

Re: spam-assassin sxs

2002-06-26 Thread m.w.chang
thx, mr. Llama.. I expected some comments... I will clean up the article very soon..it's kind of rough.. -- Linux 2.4.18 up 35 days, 23:00, 0 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 Join us in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org ___

Re: Long single line file

2002-06-26 Thread Joel Hammer
Yes. Try man fmt and man par. On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 12:57:52PM +0100, Rob Simpson wrote: No - are these unix commands? Joel Hammer wrote: Have you tried to run it through a command like fmt or par? Joel On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 08:48:42AM +0100, Rob Simpson wrote: I have a

Re: spam-assassin sxs

2002-06-26 Thread Net Llama!
`tis ok. publish early often On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, m.w.chang wrote: thx, mr. Llama.. I expected some comments... I will clean up the article very soon..it's kind of rough.. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman

Re: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability (fwd)

2002-06-26 Thread Oliver Ob
Philip J. Koenig schrieb: There has been a heated discussion on this over in the FreeBSD security list, suffice to say that Theo's obnoxious attitude doesn't help matters. Nonetheless this is important info: Why is that obnoxious at all? We've been trying to warn vendors about 3.3 and

re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael: I use MIMEDefang to process email on the Linux StepByStep site as well as my other sites. You can get it from www.roaringpenguin.org/mimedefang . It then calls SpamAssassin, which calls Vipuls Razor (v1 !!) and then calls

Re: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability (fwd)

2002-06-26 Thread Philip J. Koenig
On 25 Jun 2002, at 16:38, Net Llama! boldly uttered: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: There has been a heated discussion on this over in the FreeBSD security list, suffice to say that Theo's obnoxious attitude doesn't help matters. Nonetheless this is important info:

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Lee
On Tuesday 25 June 2002 14:43, you wrote: Nicely put. I can't believe the number of people willing to hang their hat on chucking the Bible becuase of all sorts of inconsistencies without being able to list any. Inconsistencies 1. Book of Genesis: Two creation myths fused together to form

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Harry G
Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? Thanks. Harry G On Wed June 26 2002 2:40 pm, Lee wrote: On Tuesday 25 June 2002 14:43, you wrote: Nicely put. I can't believe the number of people willing to hang their hat on chucking the Bible becuase of all sorts of

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Jim Bonnet
**MAJOR SNIPPAGE** Tune in next week kiddies when we go into the Real Story of Exodus and what does any of this have to do with linux.. lets end this thread. Jim -- quattro... the unfair advantage... ___ Linux-users mailing list -

re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread Gerry Doris
Michael: I use MIMEDefang to process email on the Linux StepByStep site as well as my other sites. You can get it from www.roaringpenguin.org/mimedefang . It then calls SpamAssassin, which calls Vipuls Razor (v1 !!) and then calls File::Scan to check for viruses. You could also

Enough already! (was: Noteworthy News Item)

2002-06-26 Thread Andrew Mathews
Lee wrote: snip Tune in next week kiddies when we go into the Real Story of Exodus Lee And I'll be changing the station. This thread was called dead long ago. This is a LINUX list. For the last time, take the religious diatribe OFF LIST! -- Andrew Mathews

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Lee
On Tuesday 25 June 2002 15:12, you wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:18:10 -0400 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Later, we had John Calvin, who preached never mind what Christ said about the rich not getting into paradise. The real truth is that God already knows who will be saved and who will

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Andrew Mathews
Harry G wrote: Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? Thanks. Harry G snip How about doing it privately and not on this list? Then everyone can continue what we came here for without sucking up bandwidth, patience, and disk space. -- Andrew Mathews

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Lee
On Wednesday 26 June 2002 14:50, you wrote: **MAJOR SNIPPAGE** Tune in next week kiddies when we go into the Real Story of Exodus and what does any of this have to do with linux.. lets end this thread. Jim God punished Egypt for using M$. ___

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Lee
On Wednesday 26 June 2002 14:50, you wrote: Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? Thanks. Harry G Genesis 1:27, 2:27, 2:15, 2:17 2:19, 2:22, 3:22 11:6 ___ Linux-users mailing list -

Re: Upcoming OpenSSH vulnerability (fwd)

2002-06-26 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: On 25 Jun 2002, at 16:38, Net Llama! boldly uttered: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Philip J. Koenig wrote: There has been a heated discussion on this over in the FreeBSD security list, suffice to say that Theo's obnoxious attitude doesn't help

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Harry G wrote: Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? I mind, so please don't. For the 4th time, this is a *LINUX* list. Take the religious discussion elsewhere. I mean really, there's even a list available to go to. Take it there, and stop

re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Gerry Doris wrote: I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work. I was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply binaries...if you don't know how to compile code then you shouldn't be trying to use his app. I can see his point but it

Re: Enough already! (was: Noteworthy News Item)

2002-06-26 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Andrew Mathews wrote: Lee wrote: snip Tune in next week kiddies when we go into the Real Story of Exodus Lee And I'll be changing the station. This thread was called dead long ago. This is a LINUX list. For the last time, take the religious diatribe OFF LIST!

strange errors

2002-06-26 Thread m.w.chang
I am seeing this error daily in the log. couldn't connect to anything I've done recently (except the preemptive patch) Jun 27 04:30:30 server kernel: Warning: null TTY for (88:00) in tty_fasync Also this strange named lookup. I didn't install anything related to openldap... query:

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Keith Morse
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Harry G wrote: Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? Thanks. Harry G For once, I'm finding an OT thread quite interesting. I like to see this continued and not die. But, this is not the right forum. Can the principals in this

Re: strange errors

2002-06-26 Thread Net Llama!
So you haven't changed kernels, or any hardware lately? What appears immediately before after those entries? Actually, i wouldnt' be too surprised if this was pre-emp patch related. Can you reboot into a kernel without the patch to see if the behavior continues? On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, m.w.chang

Re: email server question

2002-06-26 Thread Federico Voges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:52:47 -0400, Brian Witowski wrote: My COL 3.1 server acts as a router/gateway and mail server running smtp. My workstations are set up with my server as the POP3 and smtp server. Fetchmail goes out and retrieves mail

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Keith Morse wrote: On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Harry G wrote: Would you mind stating scripture and verse so it can be checked? Thanks. Harry G For once, I'm finding an OT thread quite interesting. I like to see this continued and not die. But, this is not the right

Re: strange errors

2002-06-26 Thread James McDonald
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 06:39, m.w.chang wrote: I am seeing this error daily in the log. couldn't connect to anything I've done recently (except the preemptive patch) Jun 27 04:30:30 server kernel: Warning: null TTY for (88:00) in tty_fasync Also this strange named lookup. I didn't install

cyber-terror

2002-06-26 Thread Ronnie Gauthier
chilling if true http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50765-2002Jun26.html ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.

Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread Net Llama!
Gerry Doris wrote: On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Gerry Doris wrote: I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work. I was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply binaries...if you don't know how to compile code then you

Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread David A. Bandel
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:49:21 -0400 (EDT) begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Gerry Doris wrote: I originally tried to use MIMEdefang but never could get it to work. I was intrigued with the author's view that he doesn't supply binaries...if you don't

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Jack Berger
HITLER AND TO THINK I LEFT THE CALDERA LIST FOR THIS! From: Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AND NUMEROUS OTHERS) On Tuesday 25 June 2002 14:43, you wrote: Nicely put. I can't believe the number of people willing to hang their hat on chucking the Bible...1. Book of Genesis: Two creation myths

Re: cyber-terror

2002-06-26 Thread Lee
Ted Ozolins wrote: On June 26, 2002 03:52 pm, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: chilling if true http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50765-2002Jun26.html Gee, this is begining to sound more like Wolf, Wolf, and more Wolf. How many Terrorist atack warnings have been issued by the CIA in

Re: OT TID Re: Noteworthy News Item

2002-06-26 Thread Lee
Jack Berger wrote: HITLER AND TO THINK I LEFT THE CALDERA LIST FOR THIS! You seem to be the only one carrying on the thread. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info,

gnome2 ramblings

2002-06-26 Thread Collins
Well the urge to tinker has struck again, so I put up gnome2 rc2 last night to see what I've been missing (I can hear the thundering response from the kde crowd and the xfce crowd now - not much!) Unlike DEP (see Linux and Main article) I never was that impressed by kde, but xfce is still my

Re: strange errors

2002-06-26 Thread m.w.chang
that's what I thought, too. My win2k pro is set to work in workgroup only. And the linxu server is running the latest-and-greatest bind 9.2.1. COuld it be something new in 9.2.1? I did reinstall the win2kpro lately to fix some weirdness... query: _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.myhostname IN SRV Umm

Re: strange errors

2002-06-26 Thread m.w.chang
After the pre-emptive patch, I only updated my bind to 9.2.1 which was not related to the kernel. my rp-pppoe was being up and down daily as usually as well as sendmail, named, and ipcheck (dyndns). fetchmail running as well as procmail, spam-assassin, proftpd, ... If I reboot now, it will

Re: cyber-terror

2002-06-26 Thread m.w.chang
I don't think those utilities (electricity, gas, ...) companies would have any connection to let internet control their money-making tools directly and remotely. Those faillities are being manned 24-hour-a-aday. turmoil in accounting and booking has never been new. :) Ronnie Gauthier wrote:

Re: gnome2 ramblings

2002-06-26 Thread dep
begin Collins's quote: | Ah the joys of gentoo. All I had to do was comment out a few lines | in the package mask (marks packages that are still under | development), fire up an emerge, turn off the terminal, and go to | bed. This morning gnome2 was ready to roll. honestly. someone could

messagewall

2002-06-26 Thread m.w.chang
http://messagewall.org/install.html stand right in front of sendmail. all-in-one solution: anti-spam, anti-virus, authenication, certification, ... . no need to fight with procmail and sendmail auth (if I did mis-understand her doc). any attempted using it? -- may the force, the farce and

RE: email server question

2002-06-26 Thread Brian Witowski
Federico, Thanks! Your solution seemed to work. Except it will time out when the destination is a domain that is not cached on the mail server. It seems to want to resolve the domain before it will accept the outgoing email. Any ideas on that? Thanks again, Brian My problem is I am using a

Re: cyber-terror

2002-06-26 Thread Richard R. Sivernell
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:08:31 -0700 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On June 26, 2002 03:52 pm, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: chilling if true http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50765-2002Jun26.html Gee, this is begining to sound more like Wolf, Wolf, and more Wolf. How many

Cannot login to kde

2002-06-26 Thread Keith Antoine
Damd well sent this to the wrong address last night = Sorry but I am tired out after two solid days work for two pro photographers with hd problems. I had a problem with not beng able all of a sudden to compile programs and especially kernels due to the

Re: gnome2 ramblings

2002-06-26 Thread Collins
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:52:59 -0400 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Collins's quote: | Ah the joys of gentoo. All I had to do was comment out a few | lines in the package mask (marks packages that are still under | development), fire up an emerge, turn off the terminal, and go to |

/boot partition and modules/kernels

2002-06-26 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I remember reading about someone keeing a /boot partition which holds their kernels as well as /lib/modules/2.x.x-x directories, which are then linked to in the original locations... I have attempted this and have been running face first into a wall when attempting to load modules... I'd be

RE: email server question

2002-06-26 Thread Federico Voges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Then you should add the FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains) line and run mta-switch newconfig. I'm not using this anymore (I have DSL now), but I used this config for a long time when I had dialup access. On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:57:14 -0400,

rolling your own distro - next installment

2002-06-26 Thread Abd Shukur Bin Sharif
hello joseph cheek. based on your step-by-step - rolling your own distro, can you help me how i can put my lizard - modified - into my distro - iso. thanks. begin:vcard n:;Abd Shukur Bin Sharif x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Abd

Re: virus scanning for linux email downloader

2002-06-26 Thread Gerry Doris
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Douglas J Hunley wrote: no changes to sendmail for mimedefang either. well, a tweak when you build your sendmail.cf, but that is true of all milter-based apps - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep -

Re: cyber-terror

2002-06-26 Thread Ronnie Gauthier
not right. As I have been finding out all modern switching technology can, and most is accessable online. If not for real use just for setup and testing. Many dams around me have very few employees actually onsite and all instrumentation and actual control can and sometimes is done remotely