Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-26 Thread James McDonald
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Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread David A. Bandel
Gentle Readers, OK, I give up. This is incredibly annoying behavior and I'd appreciate it if anyone knows how/where to configure this. I've submitted bug after bug to Mozilla (Bugzilla) about this, but it's still not fixed: When I go to a web page requiring a login, the login box pops up

RE: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
David, When I go to a web page requiring a login, the login box pops up (not the problem). I enter: myusernameEnter then expect to enter my password, but the bloody thing disappears, gives me an error message that I gave it the wrong password (I HAVEN'T ENTERED MY @#$%$%@$ PASSWORD

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread Jim Bonnet
Anyone know how to make it behave correctly? (usernameEnter passwordEnter)? usernameTABpasswordENTER I think thats how it is setup to work and yes it lame... regards- Jim ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread Tim Wunder
On 9/25/2002 1:23 PM, someone claiming to be David A. Bandel wrote: Gentle Readers, OK, I give up. This is incredibly annoying behavior and I'd appreciate it if anyone knows how/where to configure this. I've submitted bug after bug to Mozilla (Bugzilla) about this, but it's still not

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread Net Llama!
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, David A. Bandel wrote: Gentle Readers, OK, I give up. This is incredibly annoying behavior and I'd appreciate it if anyone knows how/where to configure this. I've submitted bug after bug to Mozilla (Bugzilla) about this, but it's still not fixed: When I go to a web

RE: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
From: Joel Hammer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] With IE 5.5 and netscape 4.75, (windows), this is how it works, too. Gotta use the tab button. Same goes for other applications I have to log on to. It annoys me, too, because obviously the form is not complete after entering the user

RE: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
-Original Message- From: David A. Bandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I've been logging into UNIX boxes for over 15 years. It's always been: usernameEnter passwordEnter So, you meant the command line interface, instead of the GUI interface. Well of course, that is

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff
Funny... As you say, the command line UNIX login is and always has been usernameEnter passwordEnter: the same for Microsoft's DOS network client too, by the way. It's been long enough since I did Novell, that I don't remember in the graphical login screen whether going from username to

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread David A. Bandel
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:36:57 -0700 begin Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: -Original Message- From: David A. Bandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I've been logging into UNIX boxes for over 15 years. It's always been: usernameEnter passwordEnter So, you

RE: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
David, I _am_ talking GUI. As I said, Netscape 4.x has the correct (for me) behavior. Why should a form that requires two inputs submit after one? It requires a username then it requires a password, then, and only then, should it submit a form. It should not submit if the active box

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread m.w.chang
the standard way to move between fields was and is TAB key. Even in the days of Foxpro and IBM 3270 terminals, it was and is the tab key. IN IBM termianl world, ENTER means submit or refresh. I've been logging into UNIX boxes for over 15 years. It's always been: usernameEnter

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread Net Llama!
Since when has foxpro been a standard of anything? m.w.chang wrote: the standard way to move between fields was and is TAB key. Even in the days of Foxpro and IBM 3270 terminals, it was and is the tab key. IN IBM termianl world, ENTER means submit or refresh. I've been logging into

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread m.w.chang
foxpro was following standard and is the posisbly the most successful dBase dialect after the romance of the 3 kingdoms (Fox Software, Ashton-Tate and Nantucket). The TAB was always the key to move between field. Even in nCurse, I believe... I barely remembered that there was a SAA (System

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread David A. Bandel
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 19:24:05 -0700 begin Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Since when has foxpro been a standard of anything? m.w.chang wrote: the standard way to move between fields was and is TAB key. Even in the days of Foxpro and IBM 3270 terminals, it was and is the

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread Net Llama!
David A. Bandel wrote: Screw it, I'll uninstall X. I just need a way to open a dozen VTs on one console so I can cut-n-paste between them. screen? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-09-25 Thread m.w.chang
well, mozilla should have added the OKCANCEL buttons to the login prompt. Then users may automagically use the tab key since they see the buttons and know that it's not a text-mode console login. Anyway, I alawys use TAB since 10 years ago whenever I saw more than one field on the screen.

Which Java for Mozilla 1.0?

2002-06-22 Thread Harry G
Which have you found works well with it? I have tried Suns 1.4JRE version, but it crashes Mozilla. TIA Harry G ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are

Re: Which Java for Mozilla 1.0?

2002-06-22 Thread Ken Moffat
I use Blackdown 1.3.1 without crashing. On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 22:28:21 -0400 Harry G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which have you found works well with it? I have tried Suns 1.4JRE version, but it crashes Mozilla. TIA Harry G ___ Linux-users

Re: Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature

2002-06-13 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
it twice from within. But from without it refuses. Tabbed browsing only works from within the app. Where is -remoteURL(foo) documented? I've now seen 4 different versions of this sort of option and can't find the real deal anywhere? I'd like to RTFM if I could find one. As of Mozilla 1.0

Re: Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature

2002-06-13 Thread Ken Moffat
browsing only works from within the app. Where is -remoteURL(foo) documented? I've now seen 4 different versions of this sort of option and can't find the real deal anywhere? I'd like to RTFM if I could find one. As of Mozilla 1.0, this is different. The command is: mozilla -remote

Re: Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature

2002-06-13 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
I doubt redhat 7.3 has mozilla 1.0. It was just released. That is when the problem started. It was different in 0,99. the new_window thing just makes each link open a new window - but it is the same mozilla. Without this option, each link replaces the current one. This is a matter of preference

Re: Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature

2002-06-13 Thread Michael Hipp
now seen 4 different versions of this sort of option and can't find the real deal anywhere? I'd like to RTFM if I could find one. As of Mozilla 1.0, this is different. The command is: mozilla -remote openurl(%s,new-window) replacing %s with whatever gets the name of the url you want

Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature

2002-06-12 Thread Michael Hipp
Probably not everyone will agree, but I deem this to be a showstopper BugFeature (tm) in Mozilla 1.0. Seems they have intentionally made it so that multiple instances of the browser cannot be run. So simply clicking on a link in Kmail to bring up a second window won't work. Or even just

Re: Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature

2002-06-12 Thread Mike Chambers
- Original Message - From: Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:18 PM Subject: Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature Is there any other worthwhile choice other than Opera? Try Galeon. Mike

Re: Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature

2002-06-12 Thread Kurt Wall
Also sprach Michael Hipp: Probably not everyone will agree, but I deem this to be a showstopper BugFeature (tm) in Mozilla 1.0. Seems they have intentionally made it so that multiple instances of the browser cannot be run. So simply clicking on a link in Kmail to bring up a second window

Re: Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature

2002-06-12 Thread Kurt Wall
Also sprach Kurt Wall: Why would you want to run a second instance as the same user? Why not just enabled tabbed browsing and configure other apps to use mozilla -remoteURL(foo)? Mozilla's enough of a porker as it is without running two instances. Err, I meant mozilla -remote 'openURL(%s)'

Re: Mozilla 1.0 BugFeature

2002-06-12 Thread Michael Hipp
not everyone will agree, but I deem this to be a showstopper BugFeature (tm) in Mozilla 1.0. Seems they have intentionally made it so that multiple instances of the browser cannot be run. So simply clicking on a link in Kmail to bring up a second window won't work. Or even just running

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-09 Thread Net Llama!
to be. Joel Hammer wrote: With all the hoopala about Mozilla 1.0, has anyone heard if they have solved that crippling bug which crashes mozilla when it is running on a remote terminal? If they haven't, why is anyone celebrating? Why was 1.0 released

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-09 Thread Kurt Wall
On Sun, 09 Jun 2002 15:56:18 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its *flash* we're talking about here. Show me one website where a flash animation is being employed in a useful fasion, rather than as just eye candy. I'm sure Flash animations exist that are used for edifying,

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-09 Thread Ken Moffat
Galeon FYI: For those on Redhat7.3 (and maybe elsewhere?) who installed mozilla 1.0 from the mozilla-installer, the Galeon rpm for redhat from sourceforge, version 1.2.5, works when installed using --nodeps. (On my machine it couldn't see mozilla 1.0) -- Ken Moffat kmoffat(nospam)drizzle.com

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-09 Thread Joel Hammer
wrote: With all the hoopala about Mozilla 1.0, has anyone heard if they have solved that crippling bug which crashes mozilla when it is running on a remote terminal? If they haven't, why is anyone celebrating? Why was 1.0 released

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-09 Thread Tim Wunder
On Sunday 09 June 2002 06:53 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Snip ... but it was also time to release Mozilla. It's a much nicer critter now than it used to be. Boy howdy. I first used Mozilla at M14. It is now a far cry from what it was then. If it improves over the next 2 years as much as it improved

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-09 Thread Ken Moffat
Except when I try to forward a link galeon vanishes. On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 17:26:08 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Galeon FYI: For those on Redhat7.3 (and maybe elsewhere?) who installed mozilla 1.0 from the mozilla-installer, the Galeon rpm for redhat from sourceforge, version

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-08 Thread Collins
On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 20:00:07 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Mathews wrote: Net Llama! wrote: I've been using Mozilla for about 18 months. I have no clue about what you're afraid of. Its, by far, the most stable, full featured browser out there, bar none., snip

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-08 Thread Kurt Wall
On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 18:59:24 +0800 M.W.Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, you don't/didn't understand. that 15M of bloat is for reading chinese and other languages. how could you twist other governments and races to read english only? World domination. ;-) I like english, too. But there

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-08 Thread Net Llama!
M.W.Chang wrote: no, you don't/didn't understand. that 15M of bloat is for reading chinese and other languages. how could you twist other governments and races to read english only? sorry, but i don't buy that. I've compiled Mozilla from source without all of the foreign language support,

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-08 Thread Collins
On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 17:15:54 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M.W.Chang wrote: no, you don't/didn't understand. that 15M of bloat is for reading chinese and other languages. how could you twist other governments and races to read english only? sorry, but i don't buy that.

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-06 Thread m.w.chang
I see... if you read Mr. Lamma's reply carefully, he didn't use mozilla.mail-news but mozilla.browser, I am the opposite. -- may the force, the farce and linux be with you. See you in news://news.hkpcug.org and http://www.linux-sxs.org ___

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-06 Thread Net Llama!
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, m.w.chang wrote: I see... if you read Mr. Lamma's reply carefully, he didn't use mozilla.mail-news but mozilla.browser, I am the opposite. I use Mozilla for mail news a bit at home. Other than the occasionaly weirdness shutting it down with my IMAP folders, it works quite

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-06 Thread Net Llama!
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, m.w.chang wrote: note the word Messenger, not the browser.. :) I am using IE6 most of the time. what the fsck is messenger?? The

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-06 Thread Aaron Grewell
The name came about with the introduction of the Communicator series, IIRC. That was when they started including Collabra (a newsreader that had been a separate product). They used the Messenger name to differentiate Mail from the Collabra Newsreader. Of course, all that code got chucked, so

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-06 Thread m.w.chang
Starting from scrach is hard. making SP and patches are easier. I wonder whether there would be a Java version of Mozilla... :) You mis-understood. I am using IE6 browser but Netscape messenger. OE is a piece of dirt. I may dump IE6 for Mozilla 2.0... very mich depends on Mozilla-2.0?? You do

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-06 Thread m.w.chang
netscape.mail-news was called messenger(NOT AOL messeger) Net Llama! wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, m.w.chang wrote: note the word Messenger, not the browser.. :) I am using IE6 most of the time. what the fsck is messenger?? -- may the force, the farce and linux be with you. See you in

Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Tim Wunder
Appears to be released, http://www.mozilla.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Ken Moffat
Now we have to wait for a new galeon. On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:03:49 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Appears to be released, http://www.mozilla.org ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread m.w.chang
I prefer release 1.1 before I switch all over... too risky given the fact that I knew some of the bugs in her pre-releasses. Tim Wunder wrote: Appears to be released, http://www.mozilla.org -- may the force, the farce and linux be with you. See you in news://news.hkpcug.org and

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Net Llama!
I've been using Mozilla for about 18 months. I have no clue about what you're afraid of. Its, by far, the most stable, full featured browser out there, bar none., m.w.chang wrote: I prefer release 1.1 before I switch all over... too risky given the fact that I knew some of the bugs in her

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread m.w.chang
I haven't used the linux version of mozilla yet. So it may be different from the experiecnes I had with the Window$ release. Messenger 4.79 is basically rock stable... so I am worrying about message base corruption (didn't happen to me so far) and possibly mail filters failure (there were

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Net Llama!
m.w.chang wrote: I haven't used the linux version of mozilla yet. So it may be different from the experiecnes I had with the Window$ release. Messenger 4.79 is basically rock stable... so I am worrying about message base corruption (didn't happen to me so far) and possibly mail filters

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Andrew Mathews
Net Llama! wrote: I've been using Mozilla for about 18 months. I have no clue about what you're afraid of. Its, by far, the most stable, full featured browser out there, bar none., snip As an aside, I've been trying Netscape 7.0 for the last week. It seems to work quite well, no crashes,

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Net Llama!
Andrew Mathews wrote: Net Llama! wrote: I've been using Mozilla for about 18 months. I have no clue about what you're afraid of. Its, by far, the most stable, full featured browser out there, bar none., snip As an aside, I've been trying Netscape 7.0 for the last week. It seems

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread m.w.chang
search http://www.bugzilla.org and you may find out more. the network timeout is also one problem I hit once a while with mozilla messenger when reading news/mail. Net Llama! wrote: yea i've experienced that too at times. it seems to be somewthing related to IMAP low bandwidth

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread m.w.chang
note the word Messenger, not the browser.. :) I am using IE6 most of the time. Just wanna be cautious... Did you notice any scroll-bar related errors in the U.I.? I did... and I worried that those unfixed U.I. bugs could crash the mozilla suddenly, causing data errors on my many-years-old

Re: Mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Tim Wunder
On Thursday 06 June 2002 01:29 am, m.w.chang wrote: note the word Messenger, not the browser.. :) I am using IE6 most of the time. Um, IE6 isn't a mail client. What I hear you saying is that you don't use Mozilla becasuse of the mail client. What mail client comes with IE6? Outlook Express?