Re: rpm won't run as root
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, RedMule.com wrote: On one of my RH9 boxes, when I do something like 'rpm -q -a moz*' it runs fine when logged in as myself. But when I do that as root it hangs. The process won't even kill unless I use -9. Tried '--rebuilddb' but that hangs also when run as root and it can't be run without permissions. Any thoughts? Michael I haven't seen this mentioned yet in the replies. I ended up having to delete /var/lib/rpm/__db.* and the doing the rpm --rebuilddb thing to get this to work. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hd problem
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:23:59 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry this is really M$ related but: I had a customer with a constant rebooting machine, which we found was a motherboard problem, PSU was fine and also switch was. So I used the latest Gigabyte motherboard as a replacement GA-700N-400Pro, which was an advanced board on the older 333 motherboard that went. Installed MB strted the machine up with the XP cd in as boot to access R (repair) so as to reconfigure the hd system to boot on new board, done this before. However it all of a sudden had just a C: drive whilst it used to have AFAICR C,D,E,F. It now sees only a c: of 80 gig and will not access repair. Looking at the drive in dos it sees c: only and If I access the R and fixmbr it says its not a standard mbr. All we did was change the motherboard, could this wipe the mbr and scaramble it? Is there a way to fix without losing all the data? It looks to me as if there is no way out but to reformat and re partition etc. Do you have a backup of your data? If no, boot using Knoppix and pull all the data you need off. Once you've verified you have all the data and it's in good shape, you can do pretty much whatever you need to to get things going again. Then as sson as possible, convince this customer M$ _will_ eventually cost them their data and if it means anything to them they should consider migrating to Linux. But _all_ systems with important data need backups. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
samba as BDC
Hi all, I am looking for documentation to build a Samba server ( I am using Samba 2.2.7 on RH 9 ) as a backup domain controller. All of my searches returned results for Samba server as primary controller. Have anybody tried Samba as BDC ? Could you pelase share me some experience ? Thanks, Vu ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rpm won't run as root
On 08/16/03 23:55, Keith Morse wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, RedMule.com wrote: On one of my RH9 boxes, when I do something like 'rpm -q -a moz*' it runs fine when logged in as myself. But when I do that as root it hangs. The process won't even kill unless I use -9. Tried '--rebuilddb' but that hangs also when run as root and it can't be run without permissions. Any thoughts? As luck would have it, i ran into something similar on one of my RH9 boxen yesterday. Any rpm command (root or othewise) would hang, and the only thing that would kill it would be a kill -9. Rebooting the box fixed it. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 6:05am up 1 day, 18:33, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rpm won't run as root
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 06:07:37 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/16/03 23:55, Keith Morse wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, RedMule.com wrote: On one of my RH9 boxes, when I do something like 'rpm -q -a moz*' it runs fine when logged in as myself. But when I do that as root it hangs. The process won't even kill unless I use -9. Tried '--rebuilddb' but that hangs also when run as root and it can't be run without permissions. Any thoughts? As luck would have it, i ran into something similar on one of my RH9 boxen yesterday. Any rpm command (root or othewise) would hang, and the only thing that would kill it would be a kill -9. Rebooting the box fixed it. Wow! Has RH been taking lessons from M$? I thought only Windows offered the reboot fixes all philosophy. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: apt-rpm vs. apt4rpm
Tim Wunder wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2003 10:55 am, someone claiming to be Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: Tim Wunder wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2003 9:45 am, someone claiming to be Michael Hipp wrote: snip Does apt preclude the continued use of RedHat's up2date tool? No, but you'll need to execute up2date -p to update the package list on RHN. Also, if you do what I did and install kde-redhat.sf.net's KDE packages, they're named differently. So RHN will think KDE will need to be updated even when it doesn't. I have that problem with kde and gaim. The more current packages that I have installed are named differently than RHN's, so RHN will think they need to be updated. Sorry, but I can't confirm that. This week I installed kde v. 3.1.2 from kde-redhat.sf.net, and I just did an up2date which only gave me a new unzip package. No kde packages were marked as to be updated, although Redhat have put up a new set recently due to a security issue. Klaus Hmmm... Have you ever executed 'up2date -p'? Yes, I do from time to time, after having applied several fixes manually (via downloading the resp. rpms from one of RH's mirrors) or by way of apt. As I understand it, up2date -p synchronizes RHN's list of fixes that are pending on my box with the actual state of my rpm database. According to my RHN, there is only one erratum pending: the kernel, which I never update via up2date. Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hd problem
Just a recent bad experience using Knoppix to recover data. I recently used Knoppix to recover data on my dual boot machine when my lindows installation got whacked when XP crashed. (It was curious. The lindows boot process just seemed to end very prematurely as shown in messages but the thing still booted up, but without numerous subsystems loaded, like the NIC, which was reported as undetectable with ifconfig.) I used ftp from the command line in Knoppix to transfer the files. It didn't pull off the hidden files, which, to my surprise, didn't transfer with mput *. It is unclear to me why so many linux programs, like mutt and pcal and all the rest, keep their configuration files in hidden files, but, sigh So, beware of that nuisance. BTW, is there a command with ftp which will make file transfer recursive or do you have to use tar first as stated in man ftp. Is there an ftp substitute which will transfer recursively? Joel If no, boot using Knoppix and pull all the data you need off. Once you've verified you have all the data and it's in good shape, you can do pretty much whatever you need to to get things going again. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
On 16 Aug 2003 04:23:29 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Code that causes this much disruption of commerce is anything but benign. These are more than just the digital equivalent of a rck thrown through a window, they suck up huge amounts of bandwidth, both as people attempt to deal with them and for the fact that many carry DDoS elements, plus they cause significant loss in productivity. The people that write and launch these programs in the wild should caught and forced to do something really unpleasant for a very long time. I wouldn't argur this fact. What I am saying is that the Windows world ain't seen nothing yet. So far we have seen disruption, a little DOS here and there (and the list of totally fscked companies is long and distinguished). I'm not saying this isn't very disruptive and hugely problematic (especially since I believe the power grid thing is related :) But so far I'm not in fear for my credit card numbers, my mortgage information, and many other things that could be put in danger. Disruption, however unsettling and unpleasant, is such a minor use of the technology of these worms. Imagine if the writers had truely malignant purposes.,. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
The Nigerian/SCO Connection
ROFLMAO! Oh, my sides hurt: http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/03q2/nigerian-sco.html Kurt -- Cauliflower is nothing but Cabbage with a College Education. -- Mark Twain ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Nigerian/SCO Connection
On Sunday 17 August 2003 11:03 am, Kurt Wall wrote: ROFLMAO! Oh, my sides hurt: http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/03q2/nigerian-sco.html Kurt Excellent! I just emailed a copy of it to work and tomorrow I run it off on one of the lasers. It'll make a great poster. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net This email account no longers accepts attachments or messages containing html. 10:41am up 37 days, 20:39, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Nigerian/SCO Connection
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 11:03:05 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: ROFLMAO! Oh, my sides hurt: http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/03q2/nigerian-sco.html Kurt == Thanks for sharing that one!! Had to print and bookmark it!! Best, Mike -- The man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life --Muhammad Ali ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
HELP - Dialogue windows bug in Slackware 9
Hi everyone. I am having problems on Slackware 9. The problem is : the dialogue windows close themseself in the second time i call them. Example: When I click on setup button of the KPPP the dialogue window appear correctly. But if i close that and try clicking again on KPPP setup button the dialogue box appears and close itself in less than 1 second. It also happens with other applications that use dialogue windows. Someone Knows how to solve that ? Thanks a lot. Bruno Vieira ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hd problem
Keith Antoine wrote inter alia: Looking at the drive in dos it sees c: only and If I access the R and fixmbr it says its not a standard mbr. All we did was change the motherboard, could this wipe the mbr and scaramble it? Is there a way to fix without losing all the data? It looks to me as if there is no way out but to reformat and re partition etc. Sounds like another partition overlay problem (Maxblast, EZDrive, etc.). I believe these programs interact with the BIOS, so a different BIOS will mess up how it reads the MBR. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Nigerian/SCO Connection
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 11:03:05 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROFLMAO! Oh, my sides hurt: http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/03q2/nigerian-sco.html That's the funniest thing I've seen since you sent us the picture of Darl McBride and his buddy Sadaam! He definitely has more in common with internet scam artists than with legitimite businessmen. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HELP - Dialogue windows bug in Slackware 9
Greets Bruno Bruno Vieira wrote: Hi everyone. I am having problems on Slackware 9. The problem is : the dialogue windows close themseself in the second time i call them. Example: When I click on setup button of the KPPP the dialogue window appear correctly. But if i close that and try clicking again on KPPP setup button the dialogue box appears and close itself in less than 1 second. It also happens with other applications that use dialogue windows. Someone Knows how to solve that ? Thanks a lot. Bruno Vieira Uhm, I have a question: Are you trying this from fresh installation of Slackware 9.0, with no patches yet? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HELP - Dialogue windows bug in Slackware 9
Thanks for your answer. But this problems happens not only in KDE. - Original Message - From: Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: sxs.lists.linux-users To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 3:03 PM Subject: Re: HELP - Dialogue windows bug in Slackware 9 Quoth Bruno Vieira: Hi everyone. I am having problems on Slackware 9. The problem is : the dialogue windows close themseself in the second time i call them. Example: When I click on setup button of the KPPP the dialogue window appear correctly. But if i close that and try clicking again on KPPP setup button the dialogue box appears and close itself in less than 1 second. Sounds like a KDE problem. Restarting KDE might help, but I don't really know, not being a KDE user. Kurt -- For those who like this sort of thing, this is the sort of thing they like. -- Abraham Lincoln ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: The Nigerian/SCO Connection
Kurt Wall wrote: ROFLMAO! Oh, my sides hurt: http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/03q2/nigerian-sco.html Kurt I don't know it sounds like a rather kosher offer ;) -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia 61+ (0)2 6570 1556 (bh) 61+ (0)2 6571 2401 (ah) 61+ 0428 320 219 (mob) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO is suing SCO
Quoth bof: For background to this article, first read http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/32233.html. In a surprise press conference today, SCO's Darryl McBride announced that SCO is suing SCO . [snort] The conference ended when he fired himself, rehired himself, and then fired himself again. We can only hope. Kurt -- Nasrudin walked into a teahouse and declaimed, The moon is more useful than the sun. Why?, he was asked. Because at night we need the light more. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: rpm won't run as root
Collins Richey wrote: Wow! Has RH been taking lessons from M$? I thought only Windows offered the reboot fixes all philosophy. The neat thing was, I only thought of rebooting after someone mentioned it here. Maybe I'm beginning to unlearn some of my bad Windows habits :-) Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 16 Aug 2003 19:18:15 -0600 On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 19:42:26 -0500 Alma J Wetzker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ other stuff snipped - see the thread for details ] I agree with the sentiment but the reality is much harsher. Most linux apps just aren't up to their windoze counterparts. This is especially true for personal productivity apps. The server stuff is much closer. It would help to know exactly what you mean by personal productivity apps. There are still functions that I need for school reports that I have not found in Koffice or Open Office. Adobe Photoshop can be simulated but it is a kludge. I can't find anything like a recent or complete version of spice. My version of xine tends to pause every once in a while. Is there a quickbooks like app that is well supported? Personal productivity apps, to me, are the horizontal apps that any business person would use for documents to spreadsheets all the way to the business/department specific functions that users would run in the course of a typical week ON THEIR PERSONAL MACHINE. All of this is true, but companies have to deal with the (negative) business payoff of loosing business productivity and/or data every time a script kiddo comes up with a new worm. There is a also big business payoff in terms of licensing fees. every executive I have ever met will spit nails about downtime and the cost to the company until you tell them how much it will cost to fix it. Then the executive goes away, until next time. The only true option to pursue for linux desktop adoption is to continue interoperability plans with the M$ network du jour (com, dcom, .net...) and start building functionality into linux friendly architectures. It requires long term thinking and a dedication to the strategy. It also requires better personal productivity apps. One thing that would help (I've mentioned this frequently) would be for the major open source support products (glibc, gcc, and the desktop products like kde and gnome, perhaps even the kernel) to stop the practice of changing the interfaces and releasing non-compatible new versions every couple of years. even Microsoft has been cured of this churn of API's and standards (I know they do have relapses but they are learning to kick the habit.) There is a dearth of long term thinking in the business world. How to cook the books for the current quarter is about as long term as it gets. Bingo! -- Alma ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hd problem
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:03 am, David A. Bandel wrote: AFAIK, ftp wasn't designed for recursive transfers. For that, I would use rsync. That said, I use cpio to grab directories/disks. Generally, I create a TOC using find, then cat that TOC through cpio with all the appropriate switches. Once I have a .cpio file, I bzip2 it and xfer it. cpio has always had the advantage that it will grab special files (named pipes, sockets, device files) that tar won't. I also verify backups, and I note that most youngsters today don't. But then you're asking an old school admin who still types sync three times before unmounting a disk. Could be tar will do you nicely. Ciao, David A. Bandel David, I was thinking that if I installed a linux on this other drive and called a cron job from there, would it backup windows to linux even though its not actually running? Just a no brain query. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hd problem
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 02:17 am, Leon A. Goldstein wrote: Keith Antoine wrote inter alia: Looking at the drive in dos it sees c: only and If I access the R and fixmbr it says its not a standard mbr. All we did was change the motherboard, could this wipe the mbr and scaramble it? Is there a way to fix without losing all the data? It looks to me as if there is no way out but to reformat and re partition etc. Sounds like another partition overlay problem (Maxblast, EZDrive, etc.). I believe these programs interact with the BIOS, so a different BIOS will mess up how it reads the MBR. -- Leon A. Goldstein Powered by Libranet 1.9.1 Debian Linux System 5151 Now I see the light, as the saying goes. Yes that would account for the problem in that the new baord has these 'new fangled dual bios thigo's'. I did try the old board back in but it also was corrupted by this time. Ok lesson well learnt. Mind you have run XP after a MB change before, with R in the install section, this was the first glitch. Lesson backup to something else first. -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'SKIPPY' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061, Australia:: PH:61733002161 Practising Geriatric, Retired Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: hd problem
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:41:48 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] professed: What we do have in Australia is electronic tax, that has to be sent quarterly, its like a VAT system. It is for windows only and installs ONLY on C drive, typical Govt program, so I cannot get rid of windows unfortunately as yet. I Remember taking a look at that piece of garbage when I was down there. It really looked like some kind of Visual Basic derived ap. Have you given wine a go? Might be worth a try? Shawn ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 18:49, Alma J Wetzker wrote: see that doesn't happen. What busines apps do we have for linux that make people want to run linux so that they can use that application? Office? Spice? Photoshop? What do we have that is close? I would hardly classify Photoshop as a major business app for anything but the graphics market. It's not really a mainstream cubicle app in the same way that MS Office is. Linux has chosen to chase the server market rather than expending most of its energy on the desktop where Windows has a stranglehold. Notwithstanding that, the Gnome and KDE folks continue to move the yardsticks month after month. As far as office productivity apps go, Star Office has shed some of its bloat and Open Office has emerged as a winner. Collaborative calendaring is now available in a fairly polished and attractive form, Outlook clones exist (e.g. Ximian Evolution)and spreadsheet applications are no longer a poor etch-a-sketch drawing. In fact, if you really wanted to, this year there is no good reason why you couldn't switch your office over seamlessly to a Linux desktop. With KDE, even the conversion training would be minimal because it is so similar to Windows. (I have a dream of writing a SAP-like application for distribution businesses for linux but I just don't have the time with going to school right now.) Eh, Ummm... http://www.sap.com/company/press/press.asp?pressID=39 http://www.sap.com/linux/news.asp http://www.oracle.com/ip/deploy/database/theme_pages/index.html?linux_02032003.html http://www-3.ibm.com/software/data/db2/linux/ http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/library/specsheets/websphere_as_linux.html http://www-3.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/sys-auto-linux/library.html Or did you mean dot Net, perhaps? ;o) -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 19:06, Alma J Wetzker wrote: every executive I have ever met will spit nails about downtime and the cost to the company until you tell them how much it will cost to fix it. Then the executive goes away, until next time. That's the business we're in and I can tell you that it depends on you're approach. Nobody spends money on technology just because anymore. You have to frame it in a credible rationalized business case, comparing the cost of making the system improvements, vs the risk, vs the cost of NOT doing it. This is where we as technologists get lazy and usually fail. Suits are nothing if not predictable. Show them where they can reduce risk and save money and they WILL listen. Tell them about neat technology that is better and their eyes glaze over. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO is suing SCO
On Sunday 17 August 2003 09:23, bof carved in granite: For background to this article, first read http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/32233.html. In a surprise press conference today, SCO's Darryl McBride announced that SCO is suing SCO . Major Snip The conference ended when he fired himself, rehired himself, and then fired himself again. Further investigative reporting shows that Mr. McBride is resting comfortably in a hospital bed after treatment for lacerations, contusions and fractures. Witnesses report that after the press conference he took himself out into the alley and beat the *#^% out of himself. Doctors refuse to speculate whether the coma he appears to be in was caused by blunt force trauma or blunt logic. In Harmony's Way and In A Chord, Tom ;-}) Tom. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Backup questions, was Re: hd problem
On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 09:03, David A. Bandel wrote: snips cpio has always had the advantage that it will grab special files that tar won't. What format is best for cpio, or does it matter? I see the default is 'bin', but that bin is also obsolete. Is ustar better? thanks, -- Ian Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
