Re: Universal vs local time

2003-08-22 Thread burns
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:55, Joel Hammer wrote: How can I tell if my linux box is running with the clock set to universal or local time? 'uname -a' gives you the system time. It's pretty obvious from that what time standard it is using (local or otherwise). -- burns

Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members

2003-08-22 Thread burns
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:41, Harry Giles wrote: For the rest of us, New Zealand had a major earthquake today. See http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,3882-2605126,00.html Hmmm. I wonder if the folks on Norfolk Island are looking out for a possible Tsunami? Or is that not likely? s -- burns

windows = virii

2003-08-22 Thread Joel Hammer
I got fed up with the large number of notifications of viruses in my email so I consigned all my samba forum (Windows users by definition) mail to dev/null (procmail is good for something.) I have stopped getting these silly emails full of virii. So, I guess we know whose machines are infected.

Re: Universal vs local time

2003-08-22 Thread burns
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 21:55, Net Llama! wrote: This is one of the questions asked when configurating a kernel. huh? where? When installing a distro more likely -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -

Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members

2003-08-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:41 am, Harry Giles wrote: I remember seeing posts from folks in New Zealand. I hope things are OK. If you can, give a shout and let us know. For the rest of us, New Zealand had a major earthquake today. See http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,3882-2605126,00.html Harry G

Re: backing up windows

2003-08-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:34 am, Ian Stephen wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 01:03, Keith Antoine wrote: snip free cd's, included 'Ext2FS Anywhere 2,5'. It had some blurb about being able to see linux partitions and files from windows. I thought that this was one of those windows hacks, but

Re: Universal vs local time

2003-08-22 Thread Michael Hipp
burns wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 21:55, Net Llama! wrote: This is one of the questions asked when configurating a kernel. huh? where? When installing a distro more likely Red Hat asks that question at install. It also can be set via their 'Date and Time Properties' GUI tool under 'System

Re: Universal vs local time

2003-08-22 Thread Joel Hammer
Here is what I get with the various suggestions: hammer11:~# uname -a Linux hammer11 2.4.20 #1 Thu Jun 19 14:13:55 PDT 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux hammer11:~# date Thu Aug 21 22:25:02 EDT 2003 hammer11:~# date Thu Aug 21 22:25:20 EDT 2003 hammer11:~# hwclock --show Thu Aug 21 22:25:31

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Andrew Mathews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Collins Richey wrote: | http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/smoking-fizzle.html | | I hope this means that the demise of SCO will come RSN! | I sincerely hope that ESR is called in as an expert witness. His mannerisms in calmly pointing out the flaws in

Re: OT Open Source content management

2003-08-22 Thread Tom Marinis
Ian Stephen wrote: Hi all Is anyone familiar with the Typo3 content management system? http://typo3.com The Exec. Dir. of a non-profit I'm on the board of wants a quick yes or no whether to spend a fair chunk of coin on putting this system in place to help staff (who have no web experience)

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003, Andrew Mathews wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Collins Richey wrote: ... I sincerely hope that ESR is called in as an expert witness. His mannerisms in calmly pointing out the flaws in the argument, as well as some possible sticking points (which are

Re: Universal vs local time

2003-08-22 Thread David A. Bandel
On 21 Aug 2003 22:18:38 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:55, Joel Hammer wrote: How can I tell if my linux box is running with the clock set to universal or local time? 'uname -a' gives you the system time. It's pretty obvious from that what time standard

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
Speaking of publishing code, I have a very interesting book called The Magic Garden Explained: The Internals of UNIX System V Release 4. An Open Systems Design, by Berny Goodheart and James Cox. This book explains very much how many of the relevant parts of the SVr4 kernel work. Quite detailed in

Re: OT Open Source content management

2003-08-22 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
Do check out www.plone.org. It is based on Python/Zope and is easy to install and use. It is for people who not want to program the web. They just want to publish things, have discussions and the like. It is possible to get as fancy or as simple as you like. There are many extensions. I have

Re: backing up windows

2003-08-22 Thread Ian Stephen
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:41, Keith Antoine wrote: free cd's, included 'Ext2FS Anywhere 2,5'. snip I can transfer files back and forth just as I can from a linux booted system. snip NO way! Windows files are not executable on Linux, so it is immune to win viruii, this is one of the

Re: OT Open Source content management

2003-08-22 Thread Gary Wilson
--- Ian Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Is anyone familiar with the Typo3 content management system? http://typo3.com The Exec. Dir. of a non-profit I'm on the board of wants a quick yes or no whether to spend a fair chunk of coin on putting this system in place to help

Re: Universal vs local time

2003-08-22 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:31:52 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21 Aug 2003 22:18:38 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:55, Joel Hammer wrote: How can I tell if my linux box is running with the clock set to universal or local time?

Re: Universal vs local time

2003-08-22 Thread Mike Reinehr
On Thursday 21 August 2003 09:36 pm, you wrote: Here is what I get with the various suggestions: hammer11:~# uname -a Linux hammer11 2.4.20 #1 Thu Jun 19 14:13:55 PDT 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux hammer11:~# date Thu Aug 21 22:25:02 EDT 2003 hammer11:~# date Thu Aug 21 22:25:20

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Andrew Mathews: sword. (And SCO has spoken) What's next? Self immolation in the middle of the street? We can only hope. Kurt -- Horngren's Observation: Among economists, the real world is often a special case. ___ Linux-users mailing

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Alma J Wetzker
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:50:19 -0400 Yes, but what will the jury think? Joel On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:21:49PM -0600, Collins Richey wrote: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/smoking-fizzle.html That is the $3,000,000,000.00 question. It is a VERY safe bet that SCO

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Net Llama!
On 08/22/03 07:48, Alma J Wetzker wrote: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:50:19 -0400 Yes, but what will the jury think? Joel On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:21:49PM -0600, Collins Richey wrote: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/smoking-fizzle.html That is the $3,000,000,000.00

Problem in connecting to mysql db with Spamassassin

2003-08-22 Thread Swapana Ghosh
Hi In our server Cobalt raq4r Spamassassin 2.55 is running smoothly with spamc/spamd with sendmail/procmail. Yesterday we configured it with *mysql* database..Now i am seeing that database is unable to connect. But database is running in a different server and it has no problem to

RE: backing up windows

2003-08-22 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
Keith Antoine wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 02:43 am, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Do you have any idea if this software is compatible with older versions of Winders? Specifically an old win95 laptop I have laying around... Have a look at http://www.paragon-gmbh.com also see thier 'mount

RE: backing up windows

2003-08-22 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
Ian Stephen wrote: My concern is that the code will execute on Windows and use this Ext2FS to access Linux and do something nasty there. If my dual-boot machine is running Windows (rare, but it happens) and something infected Windows that can read/write the Linux partitions... couldn't that

Re: backing up windows

2003-08-22 Thread Tim Wunder
On Friday 22 August 2003 1:31 am, someone claiming to be Ian Stephen wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:41, Keith Antoine wrote: free cd's, included 'Ext2FS Anywhere 2,5'. snip I can transfer files back and forth just as I can from a linux booted system. snip NO way! Windows

kernel 2.6.0-test3, ALSA and an SB-Live

2003-08-22 Thread Tim Wunder
Hi, I have an SB-Live PCI sound card and can configure the new 2.6.0-test3 kernel to use the OSS drivers (emu10k1). But I can't get the ALSA drivers to work. I get errors when trying 'modprobe snd-emu10k1'. Anybody with an SB-Live got ALSA working under kernel 2.6.0-test? For now, I'll probly

Updated Step

2003-08-22 Thread Nobody
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Updated Step

2003-08-22 Thread Nobody
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Updated Step

2003-08-22 Thread Nobody
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How can i connect remote mysql database through spamassassin?

2003-08-22 Thread Swapana Ghosh
Hi i have sent one email asking for - that i am unable to connect mysql database from my server. The database is under a different host but is *spamassassin* is trying to connect only the database at the local server? Here is again i am giving the snapshot of the log file for first few

Re: Universal vs local time

2003-08-22 Thread David A. Bandel
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:25:10 +0200 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:31:52 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21 Aug 2003 22:18:38 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:55, Joel Hammer wrote: How can I tell

Anyone using Moz Thunderbird?

2003-08-22 Thread Michael Hipp
Is it stable enough for everyday use? Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: Anyone using Moz Thunderbird?

2003-08-22 Thread Aaron Grewell
Michael Hipp wrote: Is it stable enough for everyday use? It is for me. It's pretty, fast, and stable so far, but a definite RAM hog. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -

Re: Anyone using Moz Thunderbird?

2003-08-22 Thread Net Llama!
On 08/22/03 12:28, Aaron Grewell wrote: Michael Hipp wrote: Is it stable enough for everyday use? It is for me. It's pretty, fast, and stable so far, but a definite RAM hog. Can you clarify that? Is it worse than Mozilla-1.x? How much RAM are we talking about here? --

Re: Anyone using Moz Thunderbird?

2003-08-22 Thread Aaron Grewell
Can you clarify that? Is it worse than Mozilla-1.x? How much RAM are we talking about here? ps aux | grep thunder a 2562 0.0 0.4 4492 1256 ?S12:24 0:00 run-mozilla.sh a 2568 2.2 13.8 74064 35372 ? S12:24 0:34 thunderbird-bin a 2569 0.0 13.8 74064 35372 ?

Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members

2003-08-22 Thread burns
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 00:03, Keith Antoine wrote: Hi mate! Hi Skip!! Like old times. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: backing up windows

2003-08-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 03:31 pm, Ian Stephen wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:41, Keith Antoine wrote: free cd's, included 'Ext2FS Anywhere 2,5'. snip I can transfer files back and forth just as I can from a linux booted system. snip NO way! Windows files are not executable

Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members

2003-08-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:08 am, burns wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 00:03, Keith Antoine wrote: Hi mate! Hi Skip!! Like old times. Yeh, mate, thought you might have fallen off the edge of the planet for a while there. BTW re NZ, They did feel it in Sydney at about 3 on the scale. There were

Re: Anyone using Moz Thunderbird?

2003-08-22 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:57:49 -0700 Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you clarify that? Is it worse than Mozilla-1.x? How much RAM are we talking about here? ps aux | grep thunder a 2562 0.0 0.4 4492 1256 ?S12:24 0:00 run-mozilla.sh a 2568 2.2 13.8 74064

Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members

2003-08-22 Thread burns
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 16:56, Keith Antoine wrote: There were no injuries afaik in nz from it just mostly lost stock in shops and a big fright for a 7.1 that was very good. Don't get them much here, although we do get our share of other things. We had an ice storm a few years back that

Re: Anyone using Moz Thunderbird?

2003-08-22 Thread Aaron Grewell
By way of comparison! ps aux | grep sylpheed collins 3393 0.0 1.0 8324 5468 ?S07:03 0:04 sylpheed Quite so. On my box however sylpheed doesn't support xft (something to do with GTK configuration?). That is fast becoming a requirement as I can no longer bring myself to

Time marches on

2003-08-22 Thread Collins Richey
Just got my latest copy of ComputerEdge (for those outside the US: a bi-weekly freebie publication). The latest ad for PC Club offers a middle of the road E/Power sparx system for $339 or a more upscale version for $499. The list of features includes Linux pre-loaded. And the punchline is: In

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Alma J Wetzker: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:50:19 -0400 Yes, but what will the jury think? Joel On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:21:49PM -0600, Collins Richey wrote: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/smoking-fizzle.html That is the $3,000,000,000.00 question.

Does Kmail support MIME encoding?

2003-08-22 Thread Harry Giles
I am using Kmail 1.4.3 with KDE 3.0.5. I recieved a email that stated the following: Your Email Client does not support MIME encoding. Please upgrade to MIME-enabled Email Client (almost every modern Email Client is MIME-capable). Since I am not even sure what that means (he blushes with

Re: Thank you!

2003-08-22 Thread fzou
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Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Tom Marinis
Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Alma J Wetzker: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:50:19 -0400 Yes, but what will the jury think? Joel On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:21:49PM -0600, Collins Richey wrote: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/smoking-fizzle.html That is the $3,000,000,000.00

Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members

2003-08-22 Thread Ted Ozolins
burns wrote: I've also just heard from my sister-in-law that they are under evacuation notice as part of the forest fires in Kelowna, British Columbia (western Canada). The mountain behind their house is ablaze and ash is dropping on their front garden. Last night 25 houses further out were

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Alan Jackson
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:21:49 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/smoking-fizzle.html I hope this means that the demise of SCO will come RSN! I just had a thought. When this case self-destructs, the stockholders, like me, can file a class-action

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Joel Hammer
Do you think SCO is pulling a typical lawyers trick? Trying to pollute the jury pool? Anybody who is remotely aware of technical issues will hear all about these issues long before the trial, thus making them ineligible for the jury. I recall well some years ago a big time criminal lawyer in New

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Bob Hemus
Alma J Wetzker wrote: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:50:19 -0400 Joel On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:21:49PM -0600, Collins Richey wrote: That is the $3,000,000,000.00 question. It is a VERY safe bet that SCO will remove any juror that uses a computer, let alone can read

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Michael Hipp
Tom Marinis wrote: http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/08/22/1746248.shtml?tid=19 After reading that, all I can say is: Bravo ESR! And Good Hunting. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -

Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members

2003-08-22 Thread Tom Marinis
Ted Ozolins wrote: burns wrote: I've also just heard from my sister-in-law that they are under evacuation notice as part of the forest fires in Kelowna, British Columbia (western Canada). The mountain behind their house is ablaze and ash is dropping on their front garden. Last night 25 houses

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Alan Jackson: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:21:49 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/smoking-fizzle.html I hope this means that the demise of SCO will come RSN! I just had a thought. When this case self-destructs, the stockholders, like

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Andrew Mathews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Marinis wrote: [...] | | Aww Kurt, you and Lonnie just had to open your mouths... | | | http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/08/22/1746248.shtml?tid=19 | | | Well, now you both done it ! | | So, I guess when ESR goes to court, the sxs.org group | led

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Tom Marinis: Aww Kurt, you and Lonnie just had to open your mouths... I can't speak for Llama, but I've been restrained. http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/08/22/1746248.shtml?tid=19 Another ESR screed. So, I guess when ESR goes to court, the sxs.org group led by Mr. A. Mathews will

Re: Anyone using Moz Thunderbird?

2003-08-22 Thread James McDonald
Michael Hipp wrote: Is it stable enough for everyday use? Michael I went back to mozilla because thunderbird didn't launch links in email... But it is quicker than moz and stable.. -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia 61+ (0)2 6570 1556 (bh) 61+ (0)2 6571 2401 (ah) 61+

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Joel Hammer: Do you think SCO is pulling a typical lawyers trick? Trying to pollute the jury pool? Anybody who is remotely aware of technical issues will hear all about these issues long before the trial, thus making them ineligible for the jury. Maybe. But I can't honestly say I

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Tom Marinis
Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Tom Marinis: Aww Kurt, you and Lonnie just had to open your mouths... I can't speak for Llama, but I've been restrained. Ah, I understand now. Your married :) http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/08/22/1746248.shtml?tid=19 Another ESR screed. So, I guess when ESR

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Tom Marinis
Andrew Mathews wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Marinis wrote: [...] | | Aww Kurt, you and Lonnie just had to open your mouths... | | | http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/08/22/1746248.shtml?tid=19 | | | Well, now you both done it ! | | So, I guess when ESR goes to court,

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:42:54 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth Joel Hammer: Do you think SCO is pulling a typical lawyers trick? Trying to pollute the jury pool? Anybody who is remotely aware of technical issues will hear all about these issues long before the trial, thus

Re: OT To all New Zealand SxS members

2003-08-22 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:21:23 -0700 Tom Marinis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Ozolins wrote: burns wrote: I've also just heard from my sister-in-law that they are under evacuation notice as part of the forest fires in Kelowna, British Columbia (western Canada). I'm across the

Re: SCO fizzles

2003-08-22 Thread Net Llama!
On 08/22/03 20:15, Andrew Mathews wrote: Now that you mention it, have you noticed the similarities between Llama and Linus Torvalds? Llama: http://www.linux-works.org/sxs/bio/lonni_friedman_bio.html Linus: http://www.zejack.com/perso/linus/linus_en.php3 Scary isn't it? errr...yea, right. if i

Re: Does Kmail support MIME encoding?

2003-08-22 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Harry Giles: I am using Kmail 1.4.3 with KDE 3.0.5. I recieved a email that stated the following: Your Email Client does not support MIME encoding. Please upgrade to MIME-enabled Email Client (almost every modern Email Client is MIME-capable). Since I am not even sure what that