Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-08-21 Thread Jason Joines
Matthew Carpenter wrote: What's more, unlike SCO, SuSE has added quite a bit of Value to Linux. And they've toned down their Yast tool to NOT kill all your manually edited config files. I also switched to SuSE from COL. At the time it was because I wanted to try a 2.4 kernel based distro and

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-23 Thread Ben Duncan
Actually, I switched about 18 (more or less) months ago, when COL was a definate down the toilet distro. Like others, I tried the 7.1 SuSe, ditched it quickly. Tried, again, 7.3, and learned to like with its ahhh ,.. unique features , (Those DAMN Config files). I Upgraded from 7.3 to 8.0,

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-23 Thread Leon A. Goldstein
I've said this before, and mention it in my review of Libranet 2.8 posted on the Linux Journal website. A Caldera eDesk 2.4 or OL 3.1.1 user will likely find a "kindred spirit" in Libranet. System management is straight forward, and Libranet's tech support answers their mail. I have used SuSE

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-23 Thread Matthew Carpenter
It must be something in the air up here in north-west Michigan :) I'm not as north as you but I sure feel up-north every day when I drive home from Grand Rapids... On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:47:32 -0400 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: zinger alert I've never met a RH release that I

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-23 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I would like to see a distro which is as powerful and GUI-Friendly as SuSE 8.2 pro, done with a Lizard install... Don't you all remember the beauty of Lizard!? Now only Lycoris uses it, and I'd probably be willing to run some Lycoris if they'd include some of the new packages (like KDE3.1,

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-23 Thread Shawn L Johnston
- Original Message - From: Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE? I would like to see a distro which is as powerful and GUI-Friendly as SuSE 8.2 pro, done with a Lizard install

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-23 Thread Tim Wunder
On 7/23/2003 3:27 PM, someone claiming to be Stuart Biggerstaff wrote: There's also Blue Linux. Lizard installer and KDE3.x desktop. They also have some broken stuff--development process makes Lycoris look like RedHat or Microsoft. True about Lizard. It's so logical the way it does

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-23 Thread Leon A. Goldstein
Matthew Carpenter wrote: I would like to see a distro which is as powerful and "GUI-Friendly" as SuSE 8.2 pro, done with a Lizard install... Don't you all remember the beauty of Lizard!? Now only Lycoris uses it, and I'd probably be willing to run some Lycoris if they'd include some of the new

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-23 Thread Collins Richey
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:27:07 -0500 Stuart Biggerstaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True about Lizard. It's so logical the way it does video--which is the most likely to fail--early in the program. Yeah, so logical, it fails as soon as lizard starts!!! One of the things that started me on

So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Michael Hipp
http://rhl.redhat.com/about/faq/ This whole thing smacks of We have no interest in you unless you're a deep pockets enterprise that will throw money at us in basketfuls. A year or two from now, will there even be a RHL that has documentation, support, security updates, QA testing, etc. etc.?

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Net Llama!
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Michael Hipp wrote: http://rhl.redhat.com/about/faq/ This whole thing smacks of We have no interest in you unless you're a deep pockets enterprise that will throw money at us in basketfuls. A year or two from now, will there even be a RHL that has documentation,

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread bof
Michael Hipp wrote: This whole thing smacks of We have no interest in you unless you're a deep pockets enterprise that will throw money at us in basketfuls. A year or two from now, will there even be a RHL that has documentation, support, security updates, QA testing, etc. etc.? In the end,

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath of fresh air over RH and MDK. It pleases even an old COL-er On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got this all wrong. I'm not

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Net Llama!
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath of fresh air over RH and MDK. It pleases even an old COL-er That's not been my experience. My use of SuSE has been

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:00:35AM -0400, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath of fresh air over RH and MDK. It pleases even an old COL-er

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:37:45AM -0500, Shawn L Johnston wrote: ... Nope, need to learn UnixWare and dump linux. er or not. ;) UnixWare? No way! I wouldn't be suprised to see SuSE follow pretty soon as well, it doesn't seem like there is money in selling retail boxes. Selling retail boxes

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:00 am, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath of fresh air over RH and MDK. It pleases even an old COL-er

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Keith Antoine
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:41 am, Bill Campbell wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:00:35AM -0400, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a breath

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 6:37 am, Keith Antoine wrote: On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:41 am, Bill Campbell wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:00:35AM -0400, Net Llama! wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Matthew Carpenter
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: I'm not quite sure I follow the logic in the last sentence. But I would tell How so? How was that how UnitedLinux all got started? Michael to learn SuSE. It's a

Re: So do I need to start learning SuSE?

2003-07-22 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Michael Hipp: http://rhl.redhat.com/about/faq/ This whole thing smacks of We have no interest in you unless you're a deep pockets enterprise that will throw money at us in basketfuls. So, Slackware/Gentoo/Debian/Mandrake/SuSE/Lycoris/... A year or two from now, will there even be a