Re: Root Filesystem trouble /dev/hdb7

2001-11-29 Thread Declan Moriarty

On Wednesday 28 November 2001 12:32, you wrote:
 Declan Moriarty wrote:
  I tried
  mount /dev/hdb7 - bad superblock
  e2fsck -p /dev/hdb7
  It spits me back a notice saying Try e2fsck -b 8193
  I tried for copies in 8K increments up to 49153, and 65537. Same result.

 Do you know what block size the fs uses?  8193 is only for 1k blocks. 
 e2fsck(8) doesn't tell you where the alternate blocks are (except the first
 - 8193, 16384, 32768 for 1k, 2k, and 4k blocks) - it says to use mke2fs -n
 (the man page is here if you need it:
 http://linux.ctyme.com/man/man0437.htm).  It makes sense that they are
 multiples of 8k, but you may be off by one here or there.

 You might try mke2fs -n before you go the -S route (and you need the block
 size for that too, anyway).

Well, this proved to be a smart move!!  I hadn't the least clue what the 
block size was, and could have gone to it's mirror image (/dev/hdb6) as a 
last resort,  but this did it even better.

mke2fs -n gave me a description of what the filesystem would be, INCLUDING 
the adresses of the backup superblocks. The first one was on 98304, and that 
let in e2fsck. Now I'm going to boot it, and see what's left. Mind you, the 
main file entries destroyed were in the browser cache.

Thanks to both of you my butt is saved once again. 

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Re: new install init

2001-11-29 Thread Keith Antoine

On Wednesday 28 November 2001 19:52, Declan Moriarty enunciated:

I would like to thank those who answered my appeal, however it was not the 
fault of Mandrake I am sorry to say. It was entirely my fault insofar as I 
installed the video card with 3D accel near the end of the install. It was 
done as a ' Oh yeah, click! that will do.

When i looked closer I caould see where I had buggered it up. So i 
re-installed and all was fine.

 BTW, I'm on Mandrake 8.0; Their X setup stuff is poor IMHO. They took Red
 Hat's xconfigurator, but there's a catch 22 in that - it's first guess
 needs to work or you're screwed. XF86setup was also around, but I ended up
 with the text version on my awkward machines, and then using vi to tweak
 modelines.

I must also admit that to me vi is an editor that I thouroughly hate, it 
was as AFAIAC written by a certifiable geek, on a bad trip with drugs. So I 
would not have got far here, joe, jove are my limits.

Thanks also to Dave and of course the iniimitable Kurt... 
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Re: (no subject)

2001-11-29 Thread David A. Bandel

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:52:28 -0500
Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just left kernel.org and noticed the new 2.5.0 beta kernel sounc was
posted
 for public consumption...
 
 Anyone else notice or working with it???
 
 I just tossed 2.4.16 onto my test server. I've never had this much fun in my
 OS/2 days!
 

2.5.0 came out with 2.4.15.  They both have the same shutdown filesystem
corruption error.  Fix was 2.4.16 and a patch to 2.5.0.  Only difference is in
the Makefile at the top where one says 2.4.15 and the other 2.5.0.

You sure are slow.

Ciao,

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Re: spam

2001-11-29 Thread Collins Richey

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:29:44 -0500 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Wednesday 28 November 2001 23:13 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
  All the spam I get is addressed to my email address.  How would I
 get
  mail that isn't addressed to me?
 
 Gee, why don't you whip up a few of those nifty Sylpheed filters and
 get rid 
 of all your spam?
 
 from the couldn't resist dept:o)
 

Actually, this is what I do.  All of the groups I subscribe to have a
filter to separate folder.  The only thing that shows up in my inbox
is either mail from my sister-in-law, my wife's relatives, or trash. 
Fortunately, I get a max of 2-3 trash mails a day.

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Re: (no subject)

2001-11-29 Thread Collins Richey

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 06:45:11 -0500 David A. Bandel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:52:28 -0500
 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I just left kernel.org and noticed the new 2.5.0 beta kernel sounc
 was
 posted
  for public consumption...
  
  Anyone else notice or working with it???
  
  I just tossed 2.4.16 onto my test server. I've never had this much
 fun in my
  OS/2 days!
  
 
 2.5.0 came out with 2.4.15.  They both have the same shutdown
 filesystem
 corruption error.  Fix was 2.4.16 and a patch to 2.5.0.  Only
 difference is in
 the Makefile at the top where one says 2.4.15 and the other 2.5.0.
 
 You sure are slow.
 

Re the 1.5.0 topic, I tried to patch 2.5.0 with the pre1 and pre2
patches.  pre2 went on with no complaints.  For pre2 I got several
files with Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume
-R?.  I hit eneter, then Apply anyway reply n.  Is this usual with
kernel patches.  I don't have a clue what to do about these.  Did I
make the right choices?   Is this totally normal with kernel patches? 
I'm afraid to use the resulting kernel source until I know more.



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Re: (no subject)

2001-11-29 Thread Jerry McBride

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 06:45:11 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


---snip---

 You sure are slow.
 


True enough... but very pleasurable I assure you. :')

Aside from that... I didn't notice any traffic that mentioned either 2.5.0 or
2.4.16...

I was just being curious.


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Re: spam

2001-11-29 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:03:16 -0700
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Actually, this is what I do.  All of the groups I subscribe to have a
 filter to separate folder.  The only thing that shows up in my inbox
 is either mail from my sister-in-law, my wife's relatives, or trash. 
==
There's a difference  ducks; runs  ;-)
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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-29 Thread Collins Richey

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:28:43 -0800 Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 10:41:47PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
 It is hard to believe that they wouldn't want to maintain service
 without
 interruption. After all, we are already installed, and shell out $$
 every month
 for the service. We should be a cash cow for somebody.
 This is certainly disgusting, but, that is the capitalist system.
 However, to avoid my email address getting whacked, for $35 dollars
 a year I
 have my own domain name (HammersHome.com), which won't change even
 if @HOME
 goes away. I think that is a good investment.
 
 When I installed a Linux system for one of my wife's friends a
 couple of
 months ago I had already set up a domain for her.  The guy
 installing the
 system for ATT said we were smart not to use their mail system. 
 She's
 never accessed her mail account so I imagine it's full of spam.  All
 her
 mail goes through our servers via uucp over tcp so she never touches
 the
 @home mail system.
 

I don't get much spam - max ever 2-3 per day, and the email server has
been relatively reliable.  In one year one outage of the DNS
server(s)(alternates were still working), occasional 5 minute outages
on the mail server(s).  In my section of the excite@home network, the
isp has been a totally normal provider, not really meriting all the
bad press they have gotten.

Nevertheless, they're in bad financial trouble, and I'm sure they're
not the only provider who is suffering.

Nevertheless, something different is coming.

Tell us more about how this works.  Is the ATT cable network able to
communicate with the internet using a provider of my own choosing
without requiring excite@home (or other) provided by ATT?

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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-29 Thread Joel Hammer

I use register.com to maintain my domain. I have sendmail on my linux box.
@HOME has never tried to scan for mail servers on its network.
Joel

 On Wednesday 28 November 2001  8:41 pm, you wrote:
  It is hard to believe that they wouldn't want to maintain service without
  interruption. After all, we are already installed, and shell out $$ every
  month for the service. We should be a cash cow for somebody.
  This is certainly disgusting, but, that is the capitalist system.
  However, to avoid my email address getting whacked, for $35 dollars a year
  I have my own domain name (HammersHome.com), which won't change even if
  @HOME goes away. I think that is a good investment.
  Joel
 
 
 H...where did you find such a deal?  Is your mail stored on a remote
 server - or did you have to setup your own server?
 
 I'm in the Ft. Collins area (miles north of Denver) and will be affected by
 this outage as well.
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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Greg Turpin wrote:
% On Wednesday 28 November 2001  8:41 pm, you wrote:
%  It is hard to believe that they wouldn't want to maintain service without
%  interruption. After all, we are already installed, and shell out $$ every
%  month for the service. We should be a cash cow for somebody.
%  This is certainly disgusting, but, that is the capitalist system.
%  However, to avoid my email address getting whacked, for $35 dollars a year
%  I have my own domain name (HammersHome.com), which won't change even if
%  @HOME goes away. I think that is a good investment.
%  Joel
% 
% 
% H...where did you find such a deal?  Is your mail stored on a remote
% server - or did you have to setup your own server?

Register your domain name with a domain name registrar. Mail that
can't be delivered to you right away gets queued for later delivery.
When your upstream provider goes away, you point DNS at a new provider
and, presto, your mail gets delivered.

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Re: (no subject)

2001-11-29 Thread Collins Richey

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:09:26 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 06:45:11 -0500 David A. Bandel
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:52:28 -0500
  Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I just left kernel.org and noticed the new 2.5.0 beta kernel
   sounce  was posted  for public consumption...
   
   Anyone else notice or working with it???
   
   I just tossed 2.4.16 onto my test server. I've never had this
   much fun in my OS/2 days!
   
  
  2.5.0 came out with 2.4.15.  They both have the same shutdown
  filesystem corruption error.  Fix was 2.4.16 and a patch to 2.5.0.
 
  Only difference is in the Makefile at the top where one says 
  2.4.15 and the other 2.5.0.
  
  You sure are slow.
  
 
 Re the 1.5.0 topic, I tried to patch 2.5.0 with the pre1 and pre2
 patches.  pre2 went on with no complaints.  For pre2 I got several
 files with Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume
 -R?.  I hit eneter, then Apply anyway reply n.  Is this usual with
 kernel patches.  I don't have a clue what to do about these.  Did I
 make the right choices?   Is this totally normal with kernel
 patches? 
 I'm afraid to use the resulting kernel source until I know more.
 

Fingers working brain off, again.  Of course I patched pre1 then pre2.

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Re: (no subject)

2001-11-29 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Wednesday 28 November 2001 23:52 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
 I just tossed 2.4.16 onto my test server. I've never had this much fun in
 my OS/2 days!

Gess it doesn't take much to get you going :o)


(an old OS/2 camper)


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Re: (no subject)

2001-11-29 Thread David A. Bandel

Collins Richey wrote:

[snip]
 
 Re the 1.5.0 topic, I tried to patch 2.5.0 with the pre1 and pre2
 patches.  pre2 went on with no complaints.  For pre2 I got several
 files with Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume
 -R?.  I hit eneter, then Apply anyway reply n.  Is this usual with
 kernel patches.  I don't have a clue what to do about these.  Did I
 make the right choices?   Is this totally normal with kernel patches? 
 I'm afraid to use the resulting kernel source until I know more.
 


Let me try one more time:
normal patches from one revision level to another (2.4.16 to 2.4.17 to 
2.4.18) must be applied in order successively.

-pre and -ac patches need to have the previous one removed before 
applying the new one (patch -R -p0 -i xxx-pre1 ; patch -p0 -i xxx-pre2).



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new steps (11/29)

2001-11-29 Thread DOUGLAS HUNLEY

KDE 2.x - Installing KDE 2.x from source (me)

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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-29 Thread Susan Macchia

Aw crap - I also use ATT broadband (formerly mediaone) up here in
Massachussetts.  I haven't heard this rumour but this is going to be a real
problem for me as I need the modem for work (among other things).  I'm going 
to see what I can find out!

Collins Richey wrote:
 I may have an enforced vacation from email coming up.  excite@home,
 the ISP for my ATT cable connection, is in bankruptcy.  ATT Broadband
 is trying to buy them out to insure continuous coverage, but no news
 yet.  Rumor is going around Denver that we may have a 2 week outage
 before ATT Broadband has an alternative up and going.

 Rats!

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Re: OTRe: Opera 6 beta available

2001-11-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Susan Macchia wrote:
% Just to clarify a point, any program can create new windows *without* spawning
% a new process.  Spawning a process or thread is an implementation detail of an
% application that is independent of the user interface.

Yup. This point pokes at the event model vs. the thread model argument
for building responsive UIs, but now this thread is starting to drift
far afield...

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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-29 Thread Bill Campbell

On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 07:35:50AM -0500, Kurt Wall wrote:
...
Register your domain name with a domain name registrar. Mail that
can't be delivered to you right away gets queued for later delivery.
When your upstream provider goes away, you point DNS at a new provider
and, presto, your mail gets delivered.

To make this reliable one must have at least one backup MX (Mail eXchange)
forwarder that will accept mail when your main server isn't reachable.
Furthermore your broadband provider must allow incoming and outgoing SMTP
traffic to your site.

I know that @home here in the Seattle area blocks outgoing port 25 so if
one runs the mail server it must use the provider's mail server as a smart
host.  Some of the providers have their mail servers configured to refuse
to accept mail with From: or Reply-To: addresses that aren't in their
domains (haven't the spamming thieves made life wonderful :-).

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Re: spam

2001-11-29 Thread rickf

Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
 eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and really
 interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and
 most frequent correspondents?

I don't personally have a clue on that one, but I'd love to find a procmail
recipe that can distinguish messages in chinese and dump them to /dev/null.
I'm finding about 30 - 40 pieces of spam a day coming in, mostly from Hong
Kong or Taiwan based on the otherwise hopelessly garbled sender specification.

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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-29 Thread Jim Conner

Here's a copy of the e-mail that I got.  Granted, it's from Insight instead 
of ATT, but I suppose that all the providers are trying to keep broadband 
access to their customers by using a court order if necessary.

http://www.insight-com.com/net/UPDATES/

I hope I don't lose connection.  The bulk of my e-mail goes through Yahoo 
which I have configured to use pop3/smtp and into Kmail.  Well, we'll see if 
I'm still here on Saturday.

Jim

On Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:13, Collins Richey wrote:
 I may have an enforced vacation from email coming up.  excite@home,
 the ISP for my ATT cable connection, is in bankruptcy.  ATT Broadband
 is trying to buy them out to insure continuous coverage, but no news
 yet.  Rumor is going around Denver that we may have a 2 week outage
 before ATT Broadband has an alternative up and going.

 Rats!

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Re: Opera 6 beta available

2001-11-29 Thread Bruce Marshall

I downloaded Opera 6  a couple of days ago and found it to be more stable 
than 5.0.1  but.

I had downloaded (for the first time I think) the  dynamically linked QT  
version.It was slug-slow at screen refreshes to the point of being almost 
unusable.

I just downloaded the statically linked QT version and it's back to its old 
snappy self.  

Something to consider




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Re: new steps!

2001-11-29 Thread Douglas J Hunley

Tim Wunder babbled on about:
 Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write:
  Databases - Installing and Using PostgreSQL (SiliconTao)

 Hmmm. Broken link?

my fault!
fixed
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Re: spam

2001-11-29 Thread Declan Moriarty

On Thursday 29 November 2001 16:54, you wrote:
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  Here's a good question.  I see a lot of postings about ways of
  eliminating spam.  How does one differentiate between spam and really
  interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and
  most frequent correspondents?

What bothers me is mail from my usual aquaintances where they have hit Reply 
to all. It's usually 2Mb of a joke, or wry experience with a failed punch 
line, perhaps a bmp, or yards of html which only looks something in Outlook  
(Is that how you spell it?). Wouldn't you like if your computer had this 
button?, or that sort of thing. 

The best answer for that I have discovered to date is to inform them that I 
forgive them their e-mail; not scientific or organised at all.
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Re: CD burn error

2001-11-29 Thread Net Llama


--- Zoran's mailinglist account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmmm, I continuously receive this error output from xcdroast which
 doesn't 
 mean a lot to me. 
 
 It's a Traxdata IDE burner, the mastering works without a hitch but 
 it's when I try to write the CD that it stops with an error...
 
 Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ...
 cdrecord: Input/output error. mode select g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
 CDB:  55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 3C 00
 input buffer ready.
 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)

What version of cdrecord?  Has this burner ever worked?  What's the
output from cdrecord --scanbus?

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Re: new install init

2001-11-29 Thread Matthew Carpenter

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:49:46 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I must also admit that to me vi is an editor that I thouroughly hate, it 
 was as AFAIAC written by a certifiable geek, on a bad trip with drugs. So I 
 would not have got far here, joe, jove are my limits.
 

VI was written so you could BE on drugs and get out of the file without hidden stuff.  
It's ugly, but so is BIND when you don't know exactly what those zone files are made 
of!  g
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Re: new install init

2001-11-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Matthew Carpenter wrote:
% On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:49:46 +1000
% Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%  I must also admit that to me vi is an editor that I thouroughly hate, it 
%  was as AFAIAC written by a certifiable geek, on a bad trip with drugs. So I 
%  would not have got far here, joe, jove are my limits.
%  
% 
% VI was written so you could BE on drugs and get out of the file without hidden 
stuff.  It's ugly, but so is BIND when you don't know exactly what those zone files 
are made of!  g

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Re: new install init

2001-11-29 Thread Keith Antoine

On Friday 30 November 2001 10:27, Matthew Carpenter enunciated:
 On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:49:46 +1000

 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I must also admit that to me vi is an editor that I thouroughly hate,
  it was as AFAIAC written by a certifiable geek, on a bad trip with drugs.
  So I would not have got far here, joe, jove are my limits.

 VI was written so you could BE on drugs and get out of the file without
 hidden stuff.  It's ugly, but so is BIND when you don't know exactly what
 those zone files are made of!  g

The real problem is that I _Cannot_ remember the commands to type in as i do 
not use an editor enough to remember. I can read however and click the mouse
button, also joe/jove have a commands reminder key sequence that I can callup
to jog the memory.

I had a problem a while ago where I did not have access to any other editor 
than vi, it took me hours of frustration to get a line altered.

-- 
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18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161
Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage

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Re: (no subject)

2001-11-29 Thread Collins Richey

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:36:32 -0500 David A. Bandel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Collins Richey wrote:
 
 [snip]
  
  Re the 1.5.0 topic, I tried to patch 2.5.0 with the pre1 and pre2
  patches.  pre2 went on with no complaints. 
  
 
 Let me try one more time:
 normal patches from one revision level to another (2.4.16 to 2.4.17
 to 
 2.4.18) must be applied in order successively.
 
 -pre and -ac patches need to have the previous one removed before 
 applying the new one (patch -R -p0 -i xxx-pre1 ; patch -p0 -i
 xxx-pre2).
 
 
 

Thanks, David

That is now very clear; will remember forever.  I presume this means,
if you have the pristine base source, you only need the very latest
-pren or -acn patch?

One more question.  When I apply (using one of several methods,
depending on whether still compressed or not, location, etc.) patch
-p0, the patch always fails.  I have to use patch -p1.  Could you
explain this

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gentoo_rc6 k2.4.16+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon
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Re: excite@home going down?

2001-11-29 Thread David Aikema

On Wednesday 28 November 2001 07:02 pm, burns wrote:
 On November 28, 2001 07:13 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
  I may have an enforced vacation from email coming up.  excite@home,
  the ISP for my ATT cable connection, is in bankruptcy.  ATT Broadband
  is trying to buy them out to insure continuous coverage, but no news
  yet.  Rumor is going around Denver that we may have a 2 week outage
  before ATT Broadband has an alternative up and going.

 Yeah . The Canadian cable company, Rogers@Home, is severing the @Home bit
 and is doing a crash rollout of servers changing all it's customers' mail
 domains.  About a half a Million  subscribers are affected.

Shaw Cable has been moving slowly away from @home for quite a while by now.  
I've been using an @shaw.ca pop3 account for at least a month now I think 
and I don't think I've received a message at my @home account in the past 
week or two.

David Aikema

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Re: (no subject)

2001-11-29 Thread Kurt Wall

Collins Richey wrote:
% 
% Thanks, David
% 
% That is now very clear; will remember forever.  I presume this means,
% if you have the pristine base source, you only need the very latest
% -pren or -acn patch?
% 
% One more question.  When I apply (using one of several methods,
% depending on whether still compressed or not, location, etc.) patch
% -p0, the patch always fails.  I have to use patch -p1.  Could you
% explain this

So, cd up one more directory level (say, from /usr/src/linux to
/usr/src) before applying the patch.

The number following -p indicates the number of directories (prefixed
by /) patch should strip off the filenames embedded in the patch
file before applying the patch to the filesystem. So, given a patch
file containing a pathname foo/bar/baz/somefile.c: 

patch -p0 yields foo/bar/baz/somefile.c
patch -p1 yields bar/baz/somefile.c
patch -p2 yields baz/somefile.c

Keep in mind that patch works relative to the current directory. So,
in the first example, foo/bar/baz/somefile.c has to exist in
foo/bar/baz from your current directory, or the patch will fail.

Clear?

Kurt
-- 
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
- Bert Lantz
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Re: new install init

2001-11-29 Thread Bill Day

Pico (comes with PINE console mailer), has its limitations, but if you ahve 
problems rembering vi commands, and arent worried about line length then you 
should be ok...

However, there is something to a 'limit' on a single line for pico.. can not 
remember what that was dealing with...

HTH,

On Thursday 29 November 2001 20:20, you were heard blurting out:
 On Friday 30 November 2001 10:27, Matthew Carpenter enunciated:
  On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:49:46 +1000
 
  Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I must also admit that to me vi is an editor that I thouroughly hate,
   it was as AFAIAC written by a certifiable geek, on a bad trip with
   drugs. So I would not have got far here, joe, jove are my limits.
 
  VI was written so you could BE on drugs and get out of the file without
  hidden stuff.  It's ugly, but so is BIND when you don't know exactly what
  those zone files are made of!  g

 The real problem is that I _Cannot_ remember the commands to type in as i
 do not use an editor enough to remember. I can read however and click the
 mouse button, also joe/jove have a commands reminder key sequence that I
 can callup to jog the memory.

 I had a problem a while ago where I did not have access to any other editor
 than vi, it took me hours of frustration to get a line altered.

-- 
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  irc.openprojects.net  #linux-users ( Open 24/7 )
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  spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination
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Re: CD burn error

2001-11-29 Thread Zoran

On Nov 29 Net Llama was heard saying:

snip
- Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ...
- cdrecord: Input/output error. mode select g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
- CDB:  55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 3C 00
- input buffer ready.
- status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
-
-What version of cdrecord? 


*** cdrecord-1.10-4


Has this burner ever worked?


*** Yes, in the RH 6.x days...


-What's the output from cdrecord --scanbus?


*** Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001
Jörg Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.19
Using libscg version 'schily-0.5'
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'QUANTUM ' 'ATLAS_V__9_WLS  ' '0230' Disk
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) 'UMAX' 'Astra 610S  ' 'V1.3' Scanner
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
scsibus1:
1,0,0   100) 'HITACHI ' 'CDR-8430' '0024' Removable CD-ROM
1,1,0   101) 'IDE-CD  ' 'R/RW 4x4x32 ' '1.3B' Removable CD-ROM

Cheers,
Zoran.
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