Re: [OT] testing my smtp

2001-12-23 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:41:46 +0800
Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration:

 testing

Passed...  Next?!

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killed gui...

2001-12-23 Thread billnix

Well, I was attempting to remove kde1.1.2 to make my machine a
leaner, meaner an faster machine unfortuanately I boobed
someplace.

x is still good, but cannot get to a gui for login now..

Using the line /etc/rc.d/rc.gui

INIT: /opt/kde/bin/kdm: not installed

I changed the line in /etc/config.d/shells/bashrc
to read kde2 as follows...

[ -z $KDEDIR ][ -d /opt/kde2 ]  export KDEDIR=/opt/kde2
 
backedup my X11 scripts and proceeded to remove kde1 items.
(I have not yet removed qt1), logged out of gui, switched to tty1
logged in as root replaced my X11 scripts and proceeded with
/etc/rc.d/rc.gui to receive above.

telinit 5 gives the following

INIT: /opt/kde/bin/kdm: not installed
INIT: Switching to runlevel: 3
INIT: sending processes the TERM signal
Press enter to continue

back to my loggin prompt.

I also did perform the kill pid of kdm but there was no process to
kill

Im currently using a webmail interface from browser so I hope the
wordwrap aint too awfull.

TIA for any ideas.



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Re: killed gui...

2001-12-23 Thread Dave Anselmi

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I was attempting to remove kde1.1.2 to make my machine a
 leaner, meaner an faster machine unfortuanately I boobed
 someplace.

 x is still good, but cannot get to a gui for login now..

 Using the line /etc/rc.d/rc.gui

 INIT: /opt/kde/bin/kdm: not installed

Look at /etc/inittab.  That's where init gets told what you want to do in
run level 5.  Hopefully the fix is as simple as giving init the correct
path to your new kdm.

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ELX Linux

2001-12-23 Thread rplummer

For those of you who like to try new distros, ELX Linux is available for 
download today. 

The FTP connection didn't work but the HTTP one did. I haven't finished 
downloading it yet so don't have any other comments. 

you can get it at

www.elxlinux.com

click on download

Ray

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Re: killed gui...

2001-12-23 Thread ajlewis2

[This message has also been posted.]
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:40:57 -0700, Dave Anselmi wrote:
 
 Look at /etc/inittab.  That's where init gets told what you want to do in
 run level 5.  Hopefully the fix is as simple as giving init the correct
 path to your new kdm.

And if it's not that simple at least you can change the default there from 5
to 2 and boot into console mode.  Make sure that you don't have a link in
/etc/rc2.d to kdm or xdm, because on my install that directory had S99xdm. 
It took me a while to figure out why runlevel 2 was giving me a gui.

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Re: killed gui...

2001-12-23 Thread Anita Lewis

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:40:57 -0700, Dave Anselmi wrote:
 
 Look at /etc/inittab.  That's where init gets told what you want to do in
 run level 5.  Hopefully the fix is as simple as giving init the correct
 path to your new kdm.

And if it's not that simple at least you can change the default there from 5
to 2 and boot into console mode.  Make sure that you don't have a link in
/etc/rc2.d to kdm or xdm, because on my install that directory had S99xdm. 
It took me a while to figure out why runlevel 2 was giving me a gui.

Anita
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Re: hot summer days

2001-12-23 Thread Keith Antoine

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:03,stayler scribed:
 On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 15:56:16 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote:
 Um, sitting here its 4pm and 33C Humidity 100%. The Temp on the cpu is
 63C (about 147F) and the systemm is 40C (about 106F). The room is
  hotter with the beast going so I am going to shutdown and have a cool
  beer and plenty of water.

 Good idea Skippy,

 You in a queenslander or are you surface mount ;-)

grin, To us a queenslander is a type of house peculiar to Qld, old style 
lost of  verandah space and on stumps (stilts), you must have seen them.
I am NOT walking my 4 k this morning as at 5.15am its 28C and 96%% humidity,
does not leave much room for a good day.

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Re: Dumb Question of the week

2001-12-23 Thread Keith Antoine

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:06,stayler scribed:
 Would you guys be able to point me to a good reference on major and
 minor numbers for file systems.  I'm p-laying with IDE CDROM and DVD
 drives and COL is complaining about wrong major/minor numbers.  They
 are set to 1 1 just like my SCSI's.  Suggestions?

 stayler

Thems not the major or minor numbers complained about. I am guessing you are 
looking in fstab, whilst the numbers are displayed in /dev against the driver.
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Re: killed gui...

2001-12-23 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, BadMan chose to write:
 ok, I changed my path for inittab to look in /opt/kde2/bin/kdm and receive
 my gui login for kde again,  however, all users(including root) get a
 failed login for the kde2 desktop

 little more info, all (both kde1 and kde2 we're working perfectly before I
 began this little escapade to remove kde1)

 Also, now on lookout so please excuse the crappy wordwrap

 checked /var/log/gui and pointed to /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0:
 /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0: /opt/kde/bin/kdmdesktop: No such file or directory

 So I edited it did telinit 3 then telinit 5 got gui back but still not able
 to login, see the kdm with all the available suers but login fails


/opt/kde2/share/config/kdm/kdmrc configures kdm in KDE 2.2.x, 
/opt/kde2/share/config/kdmrc controls it for earlier versions of KDE2. There 
was a major change to kdmrc from 2.1x to 2.2x.
Look there for clues.

HTH, 
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Re: killed gui...

2001-12-23 Thread BadMan



This is what I receive in tail -f /var/log/secure 
from the kde2 kdm:
Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: 
kde [on terminal: :0]Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) 
- bill [remote: ?nobody@?nowhere]Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox 
PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on terminal: :0]Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox 
PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) - root [remote: ?nobody@?nowhere]

I can find no other items with errors from 
attempted logins... I have been doing all this without reboots(and hope to 
continue so)

Any other Ideas where I should look for possible 
problems...?



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spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in 
determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be 
free... 
 
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0.00, 0.00, 0.00

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  BadMan 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:38 
  PM
  Subject: Re: killed gui...
  
  ok, I changed my path for inittab to look in 
  /opt/kde2/bin/kdm and receive my gui login for kde again, however, all 
  users(including root) get a failed login for the kde2 desktop
  
  little more info, all (both kde1 and kde2 we're 
  working perfectly before I began this little escapade to remove 
  kde1)
  
  Also, now on lookout so please excuse the crappy 
  wordwrap
  
  checked /var/log/gui and pointed to 
  /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0:
  /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0: /opt/kde/bin/kdmdesktop: 
  No such file or directory
  
  So I edited it did telinit 3 then telinit 5 got 
  gui back but still not able to login, see the kdm with all the available suers 
  but login fails
  
  
   Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan )188133 http://counter.li.org 
  irc.openprojects.net#linux-users ( Open 24/7 ) Our 
  crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow 
  a spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in 
  determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be 
  free... 
   
  http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html 
   2:30pm up 144 days, 5:01, 17 users, load average: 
  0.00, 0.00, 0.00
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Anita Lewis 

Newsgroups: sxs.lists.linux-users
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 1:09 
PM
Subject: Re: killed gui...
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:40:57 -0700, Dave Anselmi 
wrote:  Look at /etc/inittab. That's where init gets 
told what you want to do in run level 5. Hopefully the fix is 
as simple as giving init the correct path to your new 
kdm.And if it's not that simple at least you can change the default 
there from 5to 2 and boot into console mode. Make sure that you 
don't have a link in/etc/rc2.d to kdm or xdm, because on my install that 
directory had S99xdm. It took me a while to figure out why runlevel 2 
was giving me a 
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Re: otchristmas and its HOT!

2001-12-23 Thread patrick kapturkiewicz

Merry Christmas to you all from the Alps.
It's -15°C cold here. There is plenty enough snow on the
fields
...and on the roads (Snowplows' strike -- grin)
in this country not very far than the fine Lonni's pics ;-)
There is nothing better than a good wood fire in a little
chalet.

Joyeux Noel a tous.
Patrick

 ---Message d'origine---
 De : Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date : 23/12/2001 03:15:39

 Merry Xmas to all and the very best wishes to all fro the
New year. Ithas to
 be better than the last one dosen't it ??


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Re: ELX Linux

2001-12-23 Thread Collins Richey

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:50:17 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For those of you who like to try new distros, ELX Linux is available
 for download today. 
 
 The FTP connection didn't work but the HTTP one did. I haven't
 finished downloading it yet so don't have any other comments. 
 
 you can get it at
 
 www.elxlinux.com
 
 click on download
 

Must have just been max connections open on the server.   I'm
downloading it now using the ftp connection.

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Re: killed gui...

2001-12-23 Thread BadMan



guess it would have helped to mention that this is 
kde 2.1.1on a stock COLeD2.4 kernel of 2.2.14

with all other security updates.


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spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in 
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free... 
 
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0.00, 0.00, 0.00

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tim Wunder 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 3:50 
  PM
  Subject: Re: killed gui...
  Previously, BadMan chose to write: ok, I changed my 
  path for inittab to look in /opt/kde2/bin/kdm and receive my gui login 
  for kde again, however, all users(including root) get a failed 
  login for the kde2 desktop little more info, all (both kde1 
  and kde2 we're working perfectly before I began this little escapade 
  to remove kde1) Also, now on lookout so please excuse the 
  crappy wordwrap checked /var/log/gui and pointed to 
  /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0: /etc/X11/kdm/Xsetup_0: /opt/kde/bin/kdmdesktop: 
  No such file or directory So I edited it did telinit 3 then 
  telinit 5 got gui back but still not able to login, see the kdm with 
  all the available suers but login 
  fails/opt/kde2/share/config/kdm/kdmrc configures kdm in 
  KDE 2.2.x, /opt/kde2/share/config/kdmrc controls it for earlier versions 
  of KDE2. There was a major change to kdmrc from 2.1x to 2.2x.Look 
  there for clues.HTH, 
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Re: Vi question: Graphics

2001-12-23 Thread BOF

Try
   
:digraphs

to see the various acsii codes and symbols.

BOF

Joel Hammer wrote:

Any vi users here?
I would like to use the [CNTRL]V sequence to add simple graphical thingees
like small boxes and circles to my text files. Is there a way to do this
with vi? I have checked out the ascii and iso-8859 pages, and I don't see
any graphical thinges in those ascii codes.


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Re: killed gui...

2001-12-23 Thread Tim Wunder

Previously, BadMan chose to write:
 This is what I receive in tail -f /var/log/secure from the kde2 kdm:
 Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on terminal: :0]
 Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) - bill [remote:
 ?nobody@?nowhere] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on
 terminal: :0] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) -
 root [remote: ?nobody@?nowhere]

 I can find no other items with errors from attempted logins...  I have been
 doing all this without reboots(and hope to continue so)

 Any other Ideas where I should look for possible problems...?

Can you return things to the way they were and start over? 

Can you log in as root and edit the login manager from within KDE? I can't 
remember if KDE 2.1.1 on eD2.4 let you configure that or not. If you can, 
remove all users then add them back again. 

Of course, if you can't login using kdm, I guess that'll be tough. I never 
tried to remove KDE1 from eD2.4, so I can't offer too much help on this.  I 
assume you've read everything on the SxS site regarding the removal of KDE1.

Have you looked at your kdmrc file  in /opt/kde2/share/config/?

HTH, 
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Re: killed gui...

2001-12-23 Thread Net Llama

I haven't been following this closely, so i apologize if this was
already covered.  Did you build the new version of kdm from source, or
was it a precompiled binary?  I'm wondering if you built if from source,
you didn't include PAM support, or something like that?

--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Previously, BadMan chose to write:
  This is what I receive in tail -f /var/log/secure from the kde2 kdm:
  Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service: kde [on terminal:
 :0]
  Dec 23 17:29:03 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0) - bill
 [remote:
  ?nobody@?nowhere] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: service:
 kde [on
  terminal: :0] Dec 23 17:30:05 linuxbox PAM-warn[2726]: user: (uid=0)
 -
  root [remote: ?nobody@?nowhere]
 
  I can find no other items with errors from attempted logins...  I
 have been
  doing all this without reboots(and hope to continue so)
 
  Any other Ideas where I should look for possible problems...?
 
 Can you return things to the way they were and start over? 
 
 Can you log in as root and edit the login manager from within KDE? I
 can't 
 remember if KDE 2.1.1 on eD2.4 let you configure that or not. If you
 can, 
 remove all users then add them back again. 
 
 Of course, if you can't login using kdm, I guess that'll be tough. I
 never 
 tried to remove KDE1 from eD2.4, so I can't offer too much help on
 this.  I 
 assume you've read everything on the SxS site regarding the removal of
 KDE1.
 
 Have you looked at your kdmrc file  in /opt/kde2/share/config/?



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Which kernel?

2001-12-23 Thread daddy

I'm going to compile my first kernel because I need to get USB 
support.  I've decided to upgrade from my stock 2.2.12 kernel to a 
2.4.??.  Should I go with the latest kernel or something different.  
TIA.

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Re: Which kernel?

2001-12-23 Thread Collins Richey

On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 21:14:29 -0600
daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm going to compile my first kernel because I need to get USB 
 support.  I've decided to upgrade from my stock 2.2.12 kernel to a 
 2.4.??.  Should I go with the latest kernel or something different. 
 TIA.
 

current kernel (2.4.17) is what I'm running, and it's aok.

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Re: Which kernel?

2001-12-23 Thread Dave Anselmi

daddy wrote:

 I'm going to compile my first kernel because I need to get USB
 support.  I've decided to upgrade from my stock 2.2.12 kernel to a
 2.4.??.  Should I go with the latest kernel or something different.
 TIA.

I would use 2.4.16 or 2.4.17.  Earlier than that, it's hit or miss whether
the kernel is any good or not (meaning that I can't keep them straight).
I just did 2.4.17 tonight and it worked fine, but I've heard of problems
compiling X and glibc against it.  I don't see anything in the LKML
archive to suggest avoiding 2.4.17.

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Re: Which kernel?

2001-12-23 Thread Net Llama


--- daddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm going to compile my first kernel because I need to get USB 
 support.  I've decided to upgrade from my stock 2.2.12 kernel to a 
 2.4.??.  Should I go with the latest kernel or something different.  

If this is your first kernel build, I wouldn't bite off more than you
can chew.  In other words, don't try to start adding all kinds of fancy
features, such as USB support until you are comfortable building a
kernel in the first place.  Sure, you might find it quite easy, and get
a fully functional, USB-enabled kernel on the first try, but you may
not, and trying to get USB working will just be another place to screw
up.

I'd recommend rebuilding the 2.2.12 kernel that you have so that it has
the same exact functionality that you're using now.  

If that goes well, then work on moving up to a 2.4.17 kernel.  Going
from 2.2.x to 2.4.x kernels is not very difficult, but its not a very
smooth process either, as *ALOT* of packages will need to be upgraded to
get a working 2.4.x kernel.  See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes in
your 2.4.17 source tree for the minimum requirements.

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