Re: FreeBSD again ot
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:53:10 -0500 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On January 13, 2002 09:55 am, Mike Andrew wrote: moi aussie? Yes you are. Moi canuck. moi troll, as I'm sure you all remember. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 + xfce + sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Microsoft Support OT
Scribbling feverishly on January 14, burns managed to emit: One of our accountants recently bought a special bundled deal from IBM. Included with the PC was a digital camera. The PC came with XP pre-loaded. There are no drivers available to allow the camea to work under XP. Go figgur. PS: Is this a reflection on accountants, MS or IBM? Yes. K -- What happened last night can happen again. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Need help to get back on the list
Douglas J Hunley wrote: forwarded per Joel's request. He can receive mail from the list fine, but whenever he tries to send to linux.nf he gets rejected with what's below. anyone know how to help him? -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Need help to get back on the list Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:27:57 -0500 From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I need help to get back on the linux step by step mailing list. Maybe you can relay this to the list or to the right person. I had to change my ip address because of the @HOME troubles. Everything seems to be going well except I couldn't post to the linux list. I re-subscribed, but this is what I get in return mail now: 451 [EMAIL PROTECTED] reply: read error from linux.nf. ... while talking to mail.panamanow.net.: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying denied. IP name possibly forged [68.33.0.214] That possibly forged ip is the one I was assigned by @HOME. If you could forward this to the list, maybe someone could let me know how to solve this. Thanks, Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Joel, Are you using your own box as the smtp server for sending mail? I'm not experiencing any problems and I'm using mail.twsn1.md.home.com as my smtp server (while at home, anyway). Try setting up your mailer to use the old @home mail server as your smtp server and see if you can post. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FreeBSD again ot
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 00:59, Kurt Wall wrote: I'm a Ammurrican. Troglodyte's don't have nationalities. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: How trashed is it?
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:03, Tim Wunder wrote: My installation of RedHat 7.0 requires 'su -' to get root's path. Every Caldera distro I've used (2.3, 2.4, 3.1) didn't require that, It's annoying. The technical difference is that the existing environment is retained (not another shell) without the -. Mere Mortals under Redhat don't automatically have access to /sbin, it's not in the path. You can change this behaviour simply by editing (dot)bashrc in your $home directory and set the /sbin pathway. Then you get Caldera (tm) su. yep, it's annoying and can be changed in the (dot)basrc to reflect the /sbin paths. (that's the difference) I haven't seen where including 'root' in the su command is required, it aint. 'root' is implied, OR, you can explicitly state it. Both mean same. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More Steps Jan16
Mike Andrew wrote: Bedtime - ide cd burning (revised) Says: The above order of module loading will ensure that your zips and tapes will remain as ide controlled devices, if that is want you want. The reality is that both of these drivers are SCSI emulators and they in fact use truncated code from ide-scsi to achieve an identical result. Thus, you can cheerfully eliminate their need. ide-scsi will cover them with the exact same /dev/names. I have included the above modprobe list to orient you to what's happening, not, what you need to do. The end result of all this is that by eliminating any reference to any of the ide-xxx type drivers in your /etc/modules.conf (or wherever device loading is instantiated /etc/rc.modules eg) and simply stating ide-scsi, your problems are over for modular drivers. But, the fact remains that if I do NOT load ide-floppy first and rely on ide-scsi, ide-scsi does NOT cover them with *the exact same* /dev/names. With ide-floppy loaded first, I access my Zip drive on /dev/hdc4, without it, I have NO access to my Zip drive (ostensibly because I have NOT compiled scsi disk support into my kernel (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD)). At least it is that way using Caldera eW3.1 with kernel 2.4.9. Other that that little nit, the document is very well written and has helped me understand the ide-scsi process a great deal. Thanks! Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: cdrom help
Well, I gotta open the case and check. It worked about 2 years ago when this box had Windows on it. Yes, I've been in the box since then and might have bumped the wire loose or something. As far as the settings in KMix, I have all the volumes maxed(I'll probably be either deafened or scared witless when it does finally work) and have played with about every variation of muting/unmuting that I can imagine. So, I'll open the case when I get a chance and check it out. Jim On Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:10, Dave Anselmi wrote: Jim Conner wrote: [...] As for fixing cd audio, it's on that big to-do list that's a mile long. It's not critical, I get all other sounds, but would be nice to have working. If you have sound working generally, there are only 2 things I can think of to add for CD audio. First, you need a wire connecting your CD's audo port to your sound card. Second, you may need to unmute or otherwise adjust the CD audio channel in your mixer. Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- 1:42pm up 22:25, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.07 Running Caldera W3.1 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Partitioner
Hello All. I got the go ahead at work to use Linux as a Workstation (yeah, baby!). However, I use Win2k and would need the two to co-exist on the same machine for support reasons. I need to get a partition out this W2k box from the remaining free space. Can anyone recommend a _free_ partition resizer/creator that can handle NTFS? I would prefer not to buy PartitionMagic, as it is really a one-time use kind of thing. Thanks, Nate __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partitioner
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 16:11 pm, Nate Cole wrote: I need to get a partition out this W2k box from the remaining free space. Can anyone recommend a _free_ partition resizer/creator that can handle NTFS? I would prefer not to buy PartitionMagic, as it is really a one-time use kind of thing. Partition Magic was going to be my recommendation, particularly since you have Windows on the box. Some *nix partitioners do weird things to the partition table. (and I doubt if it would be a one-time use. :o) -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/15/02 17:15 + ++ The average woman would rather have beauty than brains, because the average man can see better than he can think. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Veering OTKylix Licensing
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 03:40:53 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:06, Kurt Wall wrote: Yow! Guess I won't be using Kylix: I was dissapointed with it for different reasons grin. It uses a (hidden)version of wine, and I just don't like that emulator and a 48 meg trial download is huge, in my book. They will be changing the license terms. I'm sure it's under review, since the borland forums are up in arms. As for wine, it's only the ide that uses it, not the finished apps. The problem I have with kylix is distributing apps, since you need about 8 megs of libraries. I've heard it requires the particular version of qt that ships with kylix, so you end up with a .tar.gz of 3+ megs that blows up to 8+ on install. For those who are using kylix, try InstallMade, which makes a .tar.gz of the finished project including autodetecting and packaging the required libraries and links, etc. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Veering OTKylix Licensing
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:36:14 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yow! Guess I won't be using Kylix: 12. AUDIT. During the term of this License and for one (1) year thereafter, upon reasonable notice and during normal business hours, Borland or its outside auditors will have the right to enter your premises and access your records and computer systems to verify that you have paid to Borland the correct amounts owed under this License and determine whether the Products are being used in accordance with the terms of this License. You will provide reasonable assistance to Borland in connection with this provision. You agree to pay the cost of the audit if any underpayments during the period covered by the audit amount to more than five percent (5%) of the fees actually owed for that period. Damn! I wonder it they'll be waring long,black hooded robs and dragging a torture device behind them? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 6:01pm up 23:11, 5 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: How trashed is it?
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:18:40 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a bit more investigation is needed before you can assume that this a system wide problem. How many binaries are exhibiting this problem? Three... All have to do with accessing files belonging to root. I get this error message: ERROR: tpsetup must be run in root mode This is after relogging into the box as root user, not via su. Also, said files have 644 and root.root. Two of the apps have to do with setting up printer daemons. One for LPRng via checkpc and the other is tpsetup or xtpsetup for TurboPrint. Checkpc dies because it can't access /etc/printcap... gotta' be root and the turboprint executable claims the same However, I am root. Go figure. I'll be taking this box home for dissection this weekend. Cheers, all. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 6:01pm up 23:11, 5 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kde fails to shutdown/restart
On Tuesday 15 Jan 2002 11:55, Collins Richey wrote: I'm reporting this here as well as for freebsd-questions, because it is probably kde related and not necessarily FreeBSD related. kde does not usually shutdown completely and, as a result, frequently fails to start (dcop server unable to establish communications). I start kde from my normal user with 'startx'. Most of the time I do not get a command prompt back after kde termination and have to 'ctrl-c'. When the 'startx' fails, I have to su -, cd to /tmp and delete everything kde related that I can find. The really critical piece seems to be 'rm -r .ICE-unix'. I'm using the version of kde installed fro the 4.4 install CD. I believe this kded 2.2.2, but there is no about box that I can find to verify. Any ideas? I have added this to the beginning of startkde... # Clean up behind any prior session ( advised by Andreas Pour ) MYNAME=`id -un` MYDISPLAY=`echo $DISPLAY | sed -e 's@:@@;s@\..*@@'` for file in /tmp/konqueror* /tmp/kfm_*_$MYDISPLAY /tmp/kio*_$MYDISPLAY \ /tmp/klauncher* /tmp/kfm-cache-`id -u` /tmp/ksocket-$MYNAME \ /tmp/mcop-$MYNAME /tmp/kde-$MYNAME /tmp/orbit-$MYNAME ; do if test -e $file -a -O $file ; then rm -rf $file fi done -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) for i586 Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 1 day 3 hours 44 minutes. --- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partitioner
On Tuesday 15 Jan 2002 22:16, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2002 16:11 pm, Nate Cole wrote: I need to get a partition out this W2k box from the remaining free space. Can anyone recommend a _free_ partition resizer/creator that can handle NTFS? I would prefer not to buy PartitionMagic, as it is really a one-time use kind of thing. Partition Magic was going to be my recommendation, particularly since you have Windows on the box. Some *nix partitioners do weird things to the partition table. (and I doubt if it would be a one-time use. :o) Partition Magic _still_ does not understand ext3, reiserfs, jfs, etc. If you're only interested in NTFS and ext3 ( and linux swap ) it's OK but far too expensive. I'm now using Acronis OS Selector 5.0. It only costs a few pennies and you can download it for free to try. http://www.acronis.com -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) for i586 Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Up 1 day 5 hours 27 minutes. --- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: got back to CDRW
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:03,Robert Hemus scribed: I know Lonnie is going to be pissed at my ignorance but, I think I have scsi_mod, sg, SR_mod, and ide_scsi installed correctly 'cause when I boot up they go by OK. Here is my /etc/fstab devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 #/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/sr0 iso9660 roo,user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto defaults,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hdb1 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hdb2 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 vfat ro 0 0 I'm confused about Change the link to point to the appropriate scsi cdrom device. Did I do it right? Not like this /dev/cdrom /mnt/sr0 iso9660 roo,user,noauto,exec 0 0 ? It doesn't work! My CDRW Automounts and mounts when I click the icon. When I try to mount it in a console I get mount: can't find /mnt/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab Or mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: mount point /mnt/sr0 does not exist I a possibly late with this but your /etc/fstab is wrong: #1 /dev/cdrom /mnt/sr0 iso9660 roo,user,noauto,exec 0 0 (this line is wrong and should read) /dev/sr0 /mnt/x where is the mountpoint such as 'cdrw' or 'cdrecorder' etc. Also its ro, not roo, #2 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 vfat ro 0 0 (would like to see ro,noauto,user 0 0 in here) Thius might help if not too late -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partitioner
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 18:26 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: Partition Magic _still_ does not understand ext3, reiserfs, jfs, etc. If you're only interested in NTFS and ext3 ( and linux swap ) it's OK but far too expensive. It doesn't have to. There are other ways to format once a partition is made. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/15/02 18:33 + ++ A day without sunshine is like, night. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FreeBSD - Part II
On 15 Jan 2002, at 8:23, BOF boldly uttered: The biggest problem I have had with installs is with network cards. While FreeBSD supports many, many brands, most of them are not available during installation, including Tulip-chipped ones (I use Netgear 310's almost exclusively). This is easily corrected with a kernel recompile, which I think is even simpler than with Linux, but a nuisance to have to do right off the bat! (There may be a way around this using modules, but I just do the kernel recompile since I end up doing one eventually anyway). I do not recall ever having to do this with FreeBSD. I have a FreeBSD box here that was installed with v4.2 and updated via sources to 4.3-Stable and the Netgear NIC was recognized off the bat using the dc driver. The line device dc appears in the GENERIC kernel configuration file. (/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC) One thing that you may have to do when installing is disable a bunch of the other drivers (ie for NICS) that are part of the GENERIC kernel, some of which may conflict resource-wise with your installed card. This is done via a graphical utility (ie curses-based) during the install process. No re-compiling is necessary. It just disables these devices at boot time using the kernel configuration file /boot/kernel.conf. The most difficult thing with installation is the disk partitioning. Luckily, FreeBSD will do a good job by default, and I suggest this for a newbie, as long as there is not going to be a lot of customization to the system. Actually these days I think sysinstall makes partitioning the disk quite easy, assuming you know how much space you want to allocate to things, where you want the mount points to be, and assuming you understand the differences between FreeBSD disk nomenclature and ie Linux. (FreeBSD calls what some of us think of a partition a slice, and then the filesystems are assigned within that slice by something called the label editor. This is run for you by the install process.) In fact, if one gets brave enough, the entire system can be uprgarding from version to version by using the porting concept. (I tried it once: it took about six hours, four of which was recompile time). It's not the porting concept, the FreeBSD base system is based on a collection of source code maintained via CVS mirrors around the world. Source code for the release comes on the install CD, if you want to stay current, you install the cvsup utility, decide on a version to track (bleeding-edge, stable, or just security fixes), use cvsup to update all your sources, and do the following: (as user) cd /usr/src make buildworld make buildkernel (as root after rebooting single-user mode) make installworld make installkernel mergemaster Mergemaster is a cool script that checks cvs versions of all the configuration files (most located in /etc) and allows you to either allow the newest default conf file to overwrite your current one (say for things like hardware drivers), merge your existing conf file with the new one, or keep your existing conf file. It goes through all the standard system configuration files this way, and at the end prompts to do other necessary tasks like rebuilding the email aliases and device files. THE biggest feature IMHO that FreeBSD has over typical Linux distros is that there is a single, unified FreeBSD. You don't have to spend your life trying to keep up with all the minutiae and idiosyncracies of every distro and which kernel variation it has, what utilities are present, what security patches are installed, bla bla bla. You simply update your sources, make world, and you're up to date. Everything in /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin are updated to current. Sendmail is updated, BIND is updated, NTP is updated, etc. (I have found that oftentimes updating Linux distros to a newer version ends up being futile, most people just tell you to re-install the whole stupid thing. I do NOT consider this a reasonable option, considering all the work that goes into getting a machine customized the way you like it.) If you want something not included in the base system, there are thousands of ports that automatically install simply by changing to their directory and typing make make install. All dependencies are retrieved and installed in the process, and the port is added to the package database. (in order to keep track of what is installed and to cleanly uninstall) BTW, the reason BASH does not come with the default system is that it is GPL. FreeBSD uses the BSD license, which is less restrictive than the GPL about returning modified work back to the public. Therefore BASH can never actually be included with the base system because AFAIK its license conflicts with the BSD license. Phil -- Philip J. Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers Communications for the New
Re: Microsoft Support OT
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:12:56 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, even if MS makes a decent OS, the MS support people, trained in nothing in particular, are so useless that simple problems can't get fixed without reinstalling. Of course, nothing in this post detracts from the fact that MS will take over the world, sooner or later, because idiots outnumber intelligent people at least 10:1. Guess which market MS aims at? (Of course, this assumes that XP pro CAN be configured to talk to his school network. It worked fine on my home network.) Joel Why am I not surprised. M$ can't even keep their security update server for XP up and running. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B.C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Microsoft Support OT
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:40:37 -0500 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On January 14, 2002 11:12 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: Just a tibit to give us all a laugh while MS takes over the computer world. snip One of our accountants recently bought a special bundled deal from IBM. Included with the PC was a digital camera. The PC came with XP pre-loaded. There are no drivers available to allow the camea to work under XP. Go figgur. PS: Is this a reflection on accountants, MS or IBM? -- burns The worst part of it is that if the manufacturer of that cam were to offer a driver for it on their web site and didn't get M$'s blessing for it, XP will complain big time. It will warn you that the driver has not been certified by M$ and if you continue to install it some if not all programs will cease to function properly wow, what a great operating system. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B.C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
configuring ISDN terminal adaptor
I am trying to get my ISDN terminal adaptor to connect to the internet. I'm running red Hat 7.2. The connection process intitially begins ok but stops with the message "setting modem volume" showing in the dialog box. It looks like a configuration problem. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partitioner
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:33,Bruce Marshall scribed: On Tuesday 15 January 2002 18:26 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: Partition Magic _still_ does not understand ext3, reiserfs, jfs, etc. If you're only interested in NTFS and ext3 ( and linux swap ) it's OK but far too expensive. It doesn't have to. There are other ways to format once a partition is made. However what happens when you wish to resize a partition/partitions that are ext3; it cannot do that, just found out this week. Cannot work with ext3 partitions. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FreeBSD - Part II
[ snips ] On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:23:35 -0700 BOF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Anselmi wrote: Thanks for the post, I'm much more likely to try *BSD now. Perhaps either Open of Free the next server I need. Since there is less hardware support (video, audio) and the main desktop/window managers seem to be developed for Linux I think I'd stay away from a desktop machine (just me, my brother-in-law uses FreeBSD on a laptop). I use FreeBSD on a desktop system as well as a laptop. While the hardware support is getting better, it is, IMnosoHO, about where Linux was 2 -3 years ago. Since most of my computers are 2 - 3 years old, this is no problem g. I value it as a desktop system, but thus far I haven't figured any way to get OpenOffice on FreeBSD. The biggest problem I have had with installs is with network cards. While FreeBSD supports many, many brands, most of them are not available during installation, including Tulip-chipped ones (I use Netgear 310's almost exclusively). I beg to differ on the Netgear 310's topic. I'm using an FA310TX which talks tulip on linux, but I chose the most likely looking choice (I can't remember the 3 or 4 numbers on the choice line, but tulip wasn't listed. I believe it was the very first choice listed by the installer.), disabled the other conflicting choices), and my networking is working fine with the GENERIC kernel. The most difficult thing with installation is the disk partitioning. Luckily, FreeBSD will do a good job by default, and I suggest this for a newbie, as long as there is not going to be a lot of customization to the system. Agreed, it's strange to linux eyes. The drawback to the auto (default) choice is that a very small / slice is created which will limit your /home directory. I'll probably windup redoing my install once I figure it all out. Right now I have a downloads in the /usr slice where most of the space is available. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 + xfce + sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Partitioner
Previously, Keith Antoine chose to write: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:33,Bruce Marshall scribed: On Tuesday 15 January 2002 18:26 pm, Peter Ruskin wrote: Partition Magic _still_ does not understand ext3, reiserfs, jfs, etc. If you're only interested in NTFS and ext3 ( and linux swap ) it's OK but far too expensive. It doesn't have to. There are other ways to format once a partition is made. However what happens when you wish to resize a partition/partitions that are ext3; it cannot do that, just found out this week. Cannot work with ext3 partitions. But isn't ext3 just ext2 with journaling? Can't you make the partition ext2 without destroying the data? Then, resize the partition as ext2 and the rebuild the journal and make it an ext3 partition? Just asking... Tim -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Microsoft Support OT
Scribbling feverishly on January 15, burns managed to emit: On January 15, 2002 08:54 am, Kurt Wall wrote: I have told them that MCSE stands for Must Consult with Someone Else, Mouse Certified System Engineer Must Confer with Someone Experienced Kurt -- You will be married within a year. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: anyone know of
Discus I got it at http://www.discusware.com/discus/ Ronnie On Tuesday 15 January 2002 13:48, Douglas J Hunley wrote: a decent forum system that allows people to subscribe to it in such a way that all posts to a particular forum are emailed to them. and when they reply to the email, they reply shows up on the forum? anyone? -- Ronnie == Each days terror almost a form of boredom madmen at the wheel and stepping on the gas and the brakes no good and each day one, sometimes two, morning glories faultless, blue, blue sometimes flecked with magenta each lit from within with the first sunlight -- Denise Levertov -- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
