Re: [Linux-users] Pinch zooming in Firefox
Hi-ho, Works on my acer laptop, but not my old tosh. Also works in chrome on the new one. I assume it's a function of the touch pad supporting multi-touch as well as the app. I'm currently booted into windows 7 on the Acer and it works in IE, Chrome and Firefox, as well as thunderbird, so I assume it's a universal function of the touchpad. Cheers, Me. On 5/03/2012 8:50 p.m., Aidan Gauland wrote: Does anyone on this list use pinch zooming with Firefox? I tried using this tweak, but it doesn't make a difference. http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/ep121-slate/40910-firefox-pinch-zoom.html Pinch zooming works in Shotwell, so it's definitely Firefox (not the system) that's not configured properly. --Aidan ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[Linux-users] Is it just me or...
Is Firefox getting more bloated, slower, buggy and leaking memory everywhere? Maybe it's just the plugins I use but I'm getting really tired of it. Frequently my desktop is locking up completely with disk io so badly that the desktop and mouse starts locking up for 30-60 seconds at a time. If I'm lucky I can manage to kill firefox and wait a couple of minutes for the io activity to calm down to get a responsive desktop back. I love Firefox but find myself using Chromium more and more often. Surely memory leaks in firefox and popular addons should be improving over time, not getting worse... Does anyone else have similar problems with Firefox? Kubuntu 11.04 64bit, 6Gb RAM, good fast CPU, lots of disk. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...
On 06/03/12 11:47, yuri wrote: I use Chrome (not Chromium) and it just works. Unless your religion/ideology forbids it, I would use Chrome rather than Chromium for the proprietary bits that make some sites work better (I won't mention the 'F' word). Hmmm. That explains a few things. As a diehard Firefox fan I'm so ignorant about chromium / chrome that I didn't know there was a difference. Downloading chrome now... hopefully that will clear up the F[redacted] issues I've been having on some sites :) I wish I could use Chrome but things like the Web Developer Toolbar seem to be a nightmare on Chrome - all options buried deep in menus rather than easily accessible as buttons on a toolbar. Then again maybe there's a way to turn a toolbar on in Chrom/ium that I haven't noticed yet... Thanks! ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...
On 06/03/12 11:55, Adrian Mageanu wrote: Same here, but I think it's more about bad programming practices when building add-ons than the browser itself. When running without any add-ons Firefox is really speedy and stable. So you're getting the massive disk IO / everything locks up issue as well now and then? That is the one thing that drives me nuts. I learnt that every time I install a new add-on I have to test it. Some do pass the this phase, but misbehave later when looking for upgrades or, for those that have to call home when there is a problem with their server, in which case I have to identify the culprit, uninstall it and look for equivalent functionality elsewhere. Unfortunately it seems to be very difficult to identify the addons at fault when running 20-30 of them. A pain indeed, and if I'd find same functionality in other browsers I'd switch. Same. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[Linux-users] certificate provider...
It's coming up to that time of yeaqr again, and I need to get a new st of certificates. 2 years ago, I used StartCOM, but in the end, I found that their interface was cumbersome and tedious to use, and that the certs weren't all that useful due to CA issues. What do the panel recommend? It would be nice to have free reign to issue any certs for my domain once I'm validated - so a small number of servers and emails really. Cheers, Steve -- Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MNZCS st...@greengecko.co.nz http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...
On 06/03/12 12:05, Phill Coxon wrote: As a diehard Firefox fan I'm so ignorant about chromium / chrome that I didn't know there was a difference. There isn't much difference. I wish I could use Chrome but things like the Web Developer Toolbar seem to be a nightmare on Chrome - all options buried deep in menus rather than easily accessible as buttons on a toolbar. Then again maybe there's a way to turn a toolbar on in Chrom/ium that I haven't noticed yet... CTRL+SHIFT+J brings up the developer tools which are very good. hads -- http://nice.net.nz ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 11:38 +1300, Phill Coxon wrote: Is Firefox getting more bloated, slower, buggy and leaking memory everywhere? Maybe it's just the plugins I use but I'm getting really tired of it. Frequently my desktop is locking up completely with disk io so badly that the desktop and mouse starts locking up for 30-60 seconds at a time. If I'm lucky I can manage to kill firefox and wait a couple of minutes for the io activity to calm down to get a responsive desktop back. I love Firefox but find myself using Chromium more and more often. Surely memory leaks in firefox and popular addons should be improving over time, not getting worse... Does anyone else have similar problems with Firefox? Kubuntu 11.04 64bit, 6Gb RAM, good fast CPU, lots of disk. Yes, so much so that I'm going through the pain of upgrading my desktop... now quad core / 8GB. Sounds like Microsoft requirements! I find that the ease of using elasticfox (with multiple Amazon accounts) outweighs any other hassles... On a slightly side note. Is LMDE really this cr@p?? I thought I should move on from Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but I'm bitterly regretting it. Started with squeeze, but it wouldn't even recognise my nvidia card as such, nor was nvidia support easily downloadable... Steve -- Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MNZCS st...@greengecko.co.nz http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 12:08 +1300, Phill Coxon wrote: On 06/03/12 11:55, Adrian Mageanu wrote: Same here, but I think it's more about bad programming practices when building add-ons than the browser itself. When running without any add-ons Firefox is really speedy and stable. So you're getting the massive disk IO / everything locks up issue as well now and then? That is the one thing that drives me nuts. Yes, disk I/O mostly due to furious swap when available RAM is exceeded, and then there is the 100% of every available CPU, that's when keyboard and mouse get locked and the fans screm mad. I learnt that every time I install a new add-on I have to test it. Some do pass the this phase, but misbehave later when looking for upgrades or, for those that have to call home when there is a problem with their server, in which case I have to identify the culprit, uninstall it and look for equivalent functionality elsewhere. Unfortunately it seems to be very difficult to identify the addons at fault when running 20-30 of them. You made me count: 26 add-ons and 9 plugins; now it feels like counting liberties in GO to evaluate your chance of survival in that territory. A pain indeed, and if I'd find same functionality in other browsers I'd switch. Same. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...
On 06/03/12 11:38, Phill Coxon wrote: Is Firefox getting more bloated, slower, buggy and leaking memory everywhere? Maybe it's just the plugins I use but I'm getting really tired of it. Frequently my desktop is locking up completely with disk io so badly that the desktop and mouse starts locking up for 30-60 seconds at a time. If I'm lucky I can manage to kill firefox and wait a couple of minutes for the io activity to calm down to get a responsive desktop back. I love Firefox but find myself using Chromium more and more often. Surely memory leaks in firefox and popular addons should be improving over time, not getting worse... Does anyone else have similar problems with Firefox? Kubuntu 11.04 64bit, 6Gb RAM, good fast CPU, lots of disk. If it's happening frequently enough, maybe you could make an educated guess and turn most add-ons off, or just turn them all off, turning back on slowly enough that you can pin down the offender? As a former firefox devotee, I'm happy on chrome these days though at home approx. weekly will get a cpu core hitting 100% which htop reports being chrome. I'm certain it is some bit of flash wonderment rather than chrome as such, though I have no inclination to figure out which site(s) is responsible given the frequency. Only mentioning since it's unlikely there's no browser experience totally free from issue unless you are using lynx. Which has a different set of issues . . . Cheers, Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...
On 06/03/12 13:03, Helmut Walle wrote: In my experience it's almost always the Flashplayer plugin causing the symptoms described by you (but obviously others could cause trouble, too - YMMV etc.). Firefox itself appears to be fine. (and I only have 1 GiB RAM) I think you've nailed it. It almost always happens when I've left a tab open with a flash video player or some other sort of flash. Grrr. Is there a way to fiew the individual memory usage of just the flash plugin to try and spot memory usage spiralling out of control before the desktop starts locking up? Thanks! ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...
On 06/03/12 12:09, Hadley Rich wrote: There isn't much difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)#Differences_from_Google_Chrome -- Hadley Rich http://nice.net.nz ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is anyone out there?
On 01/03/12 21:26, Chris Hellyar wrote: So.. Come on folks, what's cool? Tomorrow night, Andrew Sands will be telling whoever wants to know what has been cool at the Linux Conference Australia of 2011 and 2012: http://www.linux.org.au/LCA All welcome. March 7 Sydenham Freenix* workshop, 7.30-9.30pm (first Wednesday of each month, February to December), at the South Learning Centre http://www.library.christchurch.org.nz/South/, (rear door) South Christchurch Library, 66 Colombo Street, Cashmere Andrew, if your talk is video-intensive you better bring it on a laptop please. If you can fit the whole presentation on a memory stick, please bring that as well - for ease / second option. This event will be Fun! Cheers, Rik ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nzwrote: On a slightly side note. Is LMDE really this cr@p?? I thought I should move on from Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but I'm bitterly regretting it. Started with squeeze, but it wouldn't even recognise my nvidia card as such, nor was nvidia support easily downloadable... I tried LMDE for a while but went back to the six monthly updated Linux Mint which although it is not a rolling distro has more appeal than the Ubuntu desktop and very easy to install. This LMDE review may help you http://scottlinux.com/2011/05/21/linux-mint-debian-edition-lmde-review/ -- Robert Fisher ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:09:51 +1300, Phill Coxon wrote: I think you've nailed it. It almost always happens when I've left a tab open with a flash video player or some other sort of flash. Firefox will spend too much time saving to browser cache for the go back to previous pages. If you add more ram FF automatically increases the browser cache, the recommendation is to manually set the size of the cache to about 60M with about:config. Info on page here with comment. http://www.technipages.com/why-firefox-takes-up-too-much-memory.html 1)Type about:config into the location bar and press enter 2)Right click any line to bring up a sub-menu 3)Choose “new””integer” 4)paste this into the dialogue that appears: browser.cache.memory.capacity 5)Next click Okay 6)Specify the amount in kb (about 6 should do) in the next dialogue that appears 7)Restart Firefox. hth, keith. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Linux-users] Is it just me or...
On Tue 06 Mar 2012 14:09:51 NZDT +1300, Phill Coxon wrote: I think you've nailed it. It almost always happens when I've left a tab open with a flash video player or some other sort of flash. Grrr. Well it's your own fault for not installing the flashblock add-on. Together with noscript, adblock and uppity it's the absolute minimum starting point I'd be prepared to talk about when it comes to this mozilla-OS piece of software. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
